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<font face="monotype corsiva" color="red" size=5><B>Lord Sri KRSNA is always with His dear pure devotees like the gopis ... or even His flute ; but KRSNA is never alone.</font></B>

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Without Radharani, Krishna is Zero

(A Room Conversation), Singapore, March 3, 2002

Tridandiswami Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja

[Devotee:] Yesterday you quoted your Guru Maharaja saying that without Radharani, Krsna is zero; He's nirvisesa-brahma. We've heard that so many times from you also.* [see extra notes below] Parampujyapada Srila Vaman Maharaja also wrote that, and a translation of his article was printed in the last Harmonist magazine. But in Jaiva Dharma it says that Krsna has something that's not the work of sakti; His sva-tantrata and His sva-icchamayita. He has independence and free will or desire. You said that I should show it to you.

 

[Jaiva Dharma, Chapter 14, page 350:

"Vrajanatha: '.the spiritual world, the spiritual body, and the spiritual pastimes are also indications of sakti alone. Then what is the indication of saktiman Krsna?'

"Babaji: '.I agree that Krsna's name, form, qualities, and pastimes all indicate the function of sakti. However, freedom (sva-tantrata) and free will (sva-icchamayata) are not the work of sakti; they are both intrinsic qualities of the Supreme Person, and Krsna is that Supreme Person who has free will and is the abode of sakti. Sakti is the enjoyed and Krsna is the enjoyer; sakti is dependent but Krsna is independent; sakti surrounds that independent Supreme Person on all sides, but He is always conscious of sakti.']

 

[srila Narayana Maharaja:] Not the English. Bring the Hindi.

 

[Devotee shows Srila Maharaja the Hindi]

 

[srila Narayana Maharaja:] Yes, it is written there that without sakti He is like zero. Here it is written that without the help of sakti, a baddha-jiva (conditioned soul) cannot have any idea of that sakti. When a person will love Him, when he will have rati or bhava, then he can understand something.

 

[Devotee:] When you say that without sakti.

 

[srila Narayana Maharaja:] This is the thing. Even though Krsna is there, if there is no potency, then He will be cipher, zero. He will be nirvisesa-brahma.

 

[Devotee:] Then why does Jaiva Dharma say that Krsna has free will that's not the work of sakti?

 

[srila Narayana Maharaja:] Even though Krsna has freedom and desire, the baddha-jiva will see Him as nirvisesa. Visesa means that He has qualities, shape, form and other things, but these are coming from sakti.

 

[Devotee:] It says here, "Even though Krsna is separate from sakti, He is savisesa."

 

[srila Narayana Maharaja:] He is never separate, but for logic Bhaktivinoda Thakura is telling so. Don't use your intelligence. Always take the intelligence of Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Rupa Gosvami, and our acaryas; then we can understand. What is this called?

 

[Devotee:] Anugatya (being under the guidance of the guru-parampara)?

 

[srila Narayana Maharaja:] Guru-parampara amnaya. Use amnaya. Don't use your own intelligence. Try to realize what is amnaya (the teachings of the Vedas received through guru-parampara).

 

[Devotee:] Can Krsna desire without His sakti? Does He have the power to desire?

 

[srila Narayana Maharaja:] He can desire, but this is the thing: Desire has no shape, no qualities; nothing. So it beyond sakti.

 

 

Advisory: Pundarika dasa

Transcriber: Radhika dasi

Editor: Syamarani dasi

 

 

[* Extra notes -

One of the many interesting examples took place on Vraja Mandala parikrama in 1993:

Devotee: You say that without Radharani, Krsna is nirvisesa-brahma; but Krsna has his own form without Her help, doesn't He?

Srila Narayana Maharaja: A stone has form, but it has no qualities.]

 

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...So they are one. In Vrindavan-lila they became two, divided. And again in Gaura-lila they are both combined. Eternal, always existing, in two moods, one combined and one different. Half and half. For their lila, pastimes. One thing divided, then the whole comes into one and becomes Gauranga, not brahma (nirvisesh brahma). According to the jnanis the whole (sakti-saktiman), the potency and the owner of the potency combined, the jnanis say, when combined then it is non-differentiated brahma. But to us that is not non-differentiated brahma, that (whole) becomes Gauranga searching Himself - sahajana prayojana vivarjana. When one Radha-Krishna the potency and the owner of the potency combine together in one whole absolute then He is searching Himself. He is feeling Himself, searching Himself, and in that way He is distributing Himself to others.

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Srila Sridhar Maharaja;

 

...So they are one. In Vrindavan-lila they became two, divided. And again in Gaura-lila they are both combined. Eternal, always existing, in two moods, one combined and one different. Half and half. For their lila, pastimes. One thing divided, then the whole comes into one and becomes Gauranga, not brahma (nirvisesh brahma). According to the jnanis the whole (sakti-saktiman), the potency and the owner of the potency combined, the jnanis say, when combined then it is non-differentiated brahma. But to us that is not non-differentiated brahma, that (whole) becomes Gauranga searching Himself - sahajana prayojana vivarjana. When one Radha-Krishna the potency and the owner of the potency combine together in one whole absolute then He is searching Himself. He is feeling Himself, searching Himself, and in that way He is distributing Himself to others.:pray:

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Lord Sri KRSNA is always with His dear pure devotees like the gopis ... or even His flute ; but KRSNA is never alone. Why?:confused:

 

are you sure?

so rare it might be finite even.

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You know, if Parashuram man joins the bad side then things would of gone very differently even with Krishna's best military advice.

I think Parashuram surpasses avatar in Maya in military knowlege & IQ and that is why warriors were trying to get trained by him.

Of course there is a scene where Bheesma defeats him barely but I think he must of had much much better quality weapons than him.

Usually, Parashuram carries around some type of heavenly-made axe and that's all he needs usually.

There are air machine battles in the historical novel but not in the end fight. Must not be the best fighting method FOR THEM kinda like water machine battles.

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"I think Parashuram surpasses avatar"

should be "any avatar"

 

i would really like to know how their heavenly bow & arrow operate? i think it is based on a long lost mantra science. of course you need extreme superhuman arms just to fling thoses arrows an inch.

 

metal alloy bullets in machine guns will not work on them with their superhuman powers. nukes possibly will.

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powerful mechtronic equipment is not going to work on their battlefield. powerful pyschics can crash that technical crap w/ their brain waves. i've seen this stuff in person and on TV.

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The Supreme gift is LOVE KRSNA

Radha is a holy name radhe is a holy name krsna is a holy name chanting hari krsna hari radha is calling there divine energy chanting sri radha krsna premi is calling out for love being a lover of radha krsna is so very divine please everybody remember to enjoy there mercy and grace focus on your heart and feel the love cry with tears of joy i do spontaneously its so beautiful to just mentally do it is a wast of time bhakti is not a mantra which is

to do with the mind the real guru is the super soul please speak

from experience not spoiling things Shree Raadhe is the Supreme Energy Source of Krishna's. She is the One whose company even the Source of Renunciation, Krishna longs for Radhe Syam

chant the holy names there are millions chant the holy NAMES

BE CREATIVE During kirtans and bhajans Those who follow loves instructions without deviation will surely go back to the spiritual world. there are plenty of wonderful songs that sing the names of Sri Sri Radha Krsna. To praise Radhe is to praise Krishna, and vice versa or chant any holy names that you like PLEASE

:deal:

Hare Krsna Hare Krsna

Krsna Krsna Hare Hare

Hare Radha Hare Radha

Radha Radha Hare Hare

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