RE:cancellation of debility rules??

[Guest guest]

||Hare Rama Krsna||

 

Dear Sourav and Reema, Namaskar

 

I just arrived home, and decided to post a little mail.

 

Neecha Bhanga happens in stages and can be equated to percentages.

 

If ONE among the planets who are (1) exalted in the debilitation sign, (2)

lording the exaltation sign and (3) lording the debilitation sign, are in

Kendra to lagna/moon, then the neecha bhanga is only considered to be 25%

(1/4th pada). If two, then 50% and then considerable results are felt,

whilst if three then it is 75%. Here the efforts are put in by the native

either through their own efforts (lagna) or through mantra and determination

of mind (moon) to get OUT of the state of debilitation.

 

Exaltation in navamsa always offers 100% neecha bhanga (purna pada), as this

is a blessing from GOD.

 

 

 

Retrogression causes an atma-level-desire causing the dristis to be very

strong, and in a debilitation sign causes a strong desire to reap the

effects of exaltation, and through the persons own personal determination

they reap the effects of exaltation over time.. Especially if this planet is

associated with lagna, otherwise the effects are restricted to the dasa of

the particular planet. This scenarrio in an exaltation sign does cause the

desire for renunciation of fruits, just see Saturn in the chart of Sri

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa.

 

 

 

Exalted planets joined debilitated planets is like a beggar meeting a

millionaire. The Beggar benefits from the millionaires donations, whilst the

millionaire has to suffer the emptying of his wallet. Hence the dasa of the

debilitated planet becomes auspicious, whilst the opposite is so for the

exalted planet. In my experience this is more noteworthy during dasas of

these planets. Bill Gates has a debilitated Sun joined an exalted Saturn,

and during Sun dasa he has continued his excellent growth of wealth.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

***

 

Visti Larsen

 

For services and articles visit:

 

<http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

 

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_____

 

sohamsa [sohamsa] On Behalf Of

Sourav

29 July 2006 07:47

sohamsa

Re: cancellation of debility rules??

 

 

 

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Dear Reema-ji,

 

Namaskar. Comments below. Thanks for sharing

Sanjay-ji's old message.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sourav

 

==============================================================

sohamsa, "reema_sriganesh" <reema_sriganesh

wrote:

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Namaste Sourav,

>

> > Incidentally, if a graha is retrograde and debilitated, without

> considering other neechabhanga

> > rules, we can say that it is likely to give exaltation status after

> initial suffering or opposing

> > circumstances. Similarly, when graha is retrograde and exalted,

> opposite will happen.

>

> I remember reading the following in one of the really old messages of

> Sanjayji on Varahamihira list.

>

> The three conditions that cause neecha-bhanga rajayoga are:

>

> 1) Graha lording the sign where neecha graha is placed is in a kendra

> from lagna or chandra

>

> 2) Graha lording the 7th from the sign where neecha graha is placed is

> in a kendra from lagna or chandra

>

> 3) Graha getting exaltation in the sign where neecha graha is placed is

> in a kendra from lagna or chandra

 

[sourav]: These are traditionally accepted. Navamsa is also checked (Neecha

in rasi and Uchccha in Navamsa)

>

> In addition to these, two more conditions of neecha-bhanga rajayoga,

> which are not mentioned in the classics, are:

 

[sourav]: I don't think these are neecha-bhanga per se. The teaching is that

the results are akin to debilitation initialy and then is reversed to be

akin to exaltation. The key word is 'akin to' for example a debilitated

retrograde Shukra in kendra goes not give Malavya yoga but Shukra has

strength due to being vakri ( ref. to strength rules)

>

> 1) Neecha graha is retrograde

>

> 2) Neecha graha is conjoined an uccha graha

 

[sourav]: I didnt know of this. Thanks. However, I think the neecha graha

pulls down the uccha graha and the uccha graha is no longer that exalted.

 

Food for Thought:

 

(a) Does this relief to the neecha graha depend on the Naisargika Sambandha

? The reason I put this is that grahas conjoining in a house get involved in

graha yudda and hence this factor may influence the relief.

 

(b) I never read about the quality of neecha-bhanga for example, which of

the neecha-bhanga rules give more strength. This could be related to extent

of debility (i.e. how close the neecha graha is to its deep debility degree)

 

 

>

> The last two conditions give neecha-bhanga with a lot of effort.

>

> This is from my recollection and so I could be slighly off.

>

> May Sri Vishnu bless us all,

> Reema.

>

> sohamsa, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Dear Alka-ji,

> >

> > namaskar. Please find comments below.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

> > =====================================================================

> > sohamsa, Alka Saini alka.saini@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I am beginner in astrology and I seek some clarifications for

> > cancellation of debility. I have read the following 4 points about

> > cancellation of debility.

> > >

> > > 1. If the dipositor of the debilitated planet is in an angulare

> house

> > from ascendant or the moon.

> > > 2. If the lord of the sign where such a planet is exalted is in an

> > angle from the acendant or the moon.

> > > 3. If the debilitated planet is aspected by its dipositor.

> > > 4. The debilitated planet is in own or exalted Navamasa.

> > >

> > > What I have understood dispositor as: e.g. if mars is placed in

> > cancer, then dispositor of mars is moon. Is my understanding correct

> for

> > dispositor?

> > >

> > > Now my doubts:

> > >

> > > 1. If mars is placed in cancer, its dispositor will always be moon,

> > which will be in an angle from moon. So, does that mean that mars

> never

> > gets debilitated or in other words, debiliation gets cancelled due to

> > moon.

> >

> > [sourav]: If that is so then Mangal will never have debility at all !

> > But that cannot be so. We have to understand the Neechabhanga concept

> > carefully. It it is caused by Kendra to Chandra then it is due to help

> > from society (Chandra is karaka of society). If it is by kendra from

> > lagna then it is due to self-effort. Hence, if Mangal is in Karka then

> > look for Guru of Shani being in kendra from Chandra or kendra from

> > Lagna.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > 2. I have not understood the rule number 2 properly. I try by

> example

> > and u ppl let me know if i am correct. say again if mars is debiliated

> > (cancer), so do we have to look at jupiter (it gets exalted in cancer)

> > and check if it is in an angular house from moon or asecendant.

> >

> > [sourav]: Yes

> >

> > Or we to check the exaltation sign of mars (capricorn) that whether it

> > is in an angular house from moon or asecendant.

> >

> > [sourav]: No

> > >

> > > 3. if debility is cancelled, then we don't need to perform any

> > remedies for debilitated planet?

> >

> > [sourav]: The correct word is Neecha Bhanga or 'breaking' of neecha

> > status. It is not cancellation. Rasi shows situation. When a graha is

> in

> > neecha status, the person will face situations that are going down or

> > becoming unfavourable. So there is initial suffering. When the

> > Vimsottari dasa of the graha which is bestowing neechabhanga comes,

> the

> > situation will become favourable again. So there is suffering first

> and

> > then removal.

> >

> > Incidentally, if a graha is retrograde and debilitated, without

> > considering other neechabhanga rules, we can say that it is likely to

> > give exaltation status after initial suffering or opposing

> > circumstances. Similarly, when graha is retrograde and exalted,

> opposite

> > will happen.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Kindly answer my queries.

> > >

> > > Alka

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Dear Visti-ji,

 

Namaskar. Did you notice, just when Budha

stopped Retrograding and became Direct you are back to the forum ! Just

when I am writing this, Budha is in Mithuna in Lagna conjoining Shukra

and aspected by Guru (in parivartana with Shukra). !! We were really

missing your knowledge and insight. Hope you had a nice break (from us

)

 

Thank you for the knowledge on various padas of debility cancellation.

What happens if the graha giving neecha bhanga is kendra from both Lagna

and Chandra, does it contribute an extra quarter-pada ? If kendra from

Chandra is the process of neecha-bhanga does it means someone from

society comes and saves ? Because determination and practising mantra is

similar to self-effort also.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sourav

 

================================================================

, "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Sourav and Reema, Namaskar

>

> I just arrived home, and decided to post a little mail.

>

> Neecha Bhanga happens in stages and can be equated to percentages.

>

> If ONE among the planets who are (1) exalted in the debilitation sign,

(2)

> lording the exaltation sign and (3) lording the debilitation sign, are

in

> Kendra to lagna/moon, then the neecha bhanga is only considered to be

25%

> (1/4th pada). If two, then 50% and then considerable results are felt,

> whilst if three then it is 75%. Here the efforts are put in by the

native

> either through their own efforts (lagna) or through mantra and

determination

> of mind (moon) to get OUT of the state of debilitation.

>

> Exaltation in navamsa always offers 100% neecha bhanga (purna pada),

as this

> is a blessing from GOD.

>

>

>

> Retrogression causes an atma-level-desire causing the dristis to be

very

> strong, and in a debilitation sign causes a strong desire to reap the

> effects of exaltation, and through the persons own personal

determination

> they reap the effects of exaltation over time.. Especially if this

planet is

> associated with lagna, otherwise the effects are restricted to the

dasa of

> the particular planet. This scenarrio in an exaltation sign does cause

the

> desire for renunciation of fruits, just see Saturn in the chart of Sri

> Ramakrishna Paramahamsa.

>

>

>

> Exalted planets joined debilitated planets is like a beggar meeting a

> millionaire. The Beggar benefits from the millionaires donations,

whilst the

> millionaire has to suffer the emptying of his wallet. Hence the dasa

of the

> debilitated planet becomes auspicious, whilst the opposite is so for

the

> exalted planet. In my experience this is more noteworthy during dasas

of

> these planets. Bill Gates has a debilitated Sun joined an exalted

Saturn,

> and during Sun dasa he has continued his excellent growth of wealth.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa] On

Behalf Of

> Sourav

> 29 July 2006 07:47

> sohamsa

> Re: cancellation of debility rules??

>

>

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Reema-ji,

>

> Namaskar. Comments below. Thanks for sharing

> Sanjay-ji's old message.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

> ==============================================================

> sohamsa, "reema_sriganesh" reema_sriganesh@

> wrote:

> >

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Namaste Sourav,

> >

> > > Incidentally, if a graha is retrograde and debilitated, without

> > considering other neechabhanga

> > > rules, we can say that it is likely to give exaltation status

after

> > initial suffering or opposing

> > > circumstances. Similarly, when graha is retrograde and exalted,

> > opposite will happen.

> >

> > I remember reading the following in one of the really old messages

of

> > Sanjayji on Varahamihira list.

> >

> > The three conditions that cause neecha-bhanga rajayoga are:

> >

> > 1) Graha lording the sign where neecha graha is placed is in a

kendra

> > from lagna or chandra

> >

> > 2) Graha lording the 7th from the sign where neecha graha is placed

is

> > in a kendra from lagna or chandra

> >

> > 3) Graha getting exaltation in the sign where neecha graha is placed

is

> > in a kendra from lagna or chandra

>

> [sourav]: These are traditionally accepted. Navamsa is also checked

(Neecha

> in rasi and Uchccha in Navamsa)

> >

> > In addition to these, two more conditions of neecha-bhanga rajayoga,

> > which are not mentioned in the classics, are:

>

> [sourav]: I don't think these are neecha-bhanga per se. The teaching

is that

> the results are akin to debilitation initialy and then is reversed to

be

> akin to exaltation. The key word is 'akin to' for example a

debilitated

> retrograde Shukra in kendra goes not give Malavya yoga but Shukra has

> strength due to being vakri ( ref. to strength rules)

> >

> > 1) Neecha graha is retrograde

> >

> > 2) Neecha graha is conjoined an uccha graha

>

> [sourav]: I didnt know of this. Thanks. However, I think the neecha

graha

> pulls down the uccha graha and the uccha graha is no longer that

exalted.

>

> Food for Thought:

>

> (a) Does this relief to the neecha graha depend on the Naisargika

Sambandha

> ? The reason I put this is that grahas conjoining in a house get

involved in

> graha yudda and hence this factor may influence the relief.

>

> (b) I never read about the quality of neecha-bhanga for example, which

of

> the neecha-bhanga rules give more strength. This could be related to

extent

> of debility (i.e. how close the neecha graha is to its deep debility

degree)

>

>

> >

> > The last two conditions give neecha-bhanga with a lot of effort.

> >

> > This is from my recollection and so I could be slighly off.

> >

> > May Sri Vishnu bless us all,

> > Reema.

> >

> > sohamsa, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > >

> > > Dear Alka-ji,

> > >

> > > namaskar. Please find comments below.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Sourav

> > >

> > >

=====================================================================

> > > sohamsa, Alka Saini alka.saini@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I am beginner in astrology and I seek some clarifications for

> > > cancellation of debility. I have read the following 4 points about

> > > cancellation of debility.

> > > >

> > > > 1. If the dipositor of the debilitated planet is in an angulare

> > house

> > > from ascendant or the moon.

> > > > 2. If the lord of the sign where such a planet is exalted is in

an

> > > angle from the acendant or the moon.

> > > > 3. If the debilitated planet is aspected by its dipositor.

> > > > 4. The debilitated planet is in own or exalted Navamasa.

> > > >

> > > > What I have understood dispositor as: e.g. if mars is placed in

> > > cancer, then dispositor of mars is moon. Is my understanding

correct

> > for

> > > dispositor?

> > > >

> > > > Now my doubts:

> > > >

> > > > 1. If mars is placed in cancer, its dispositor will always be

moon,

> > > which will be in an angle from moon. So, does that mean that mars

> > never

> > > gets debilitated or in other words, debiliation gets cancelled due

to

> > > moon.

> > >

> > > [sourav]: If that is so then Mangal will never have debility at

all !

> > > But that cannot be so. We have to understand the Neechabhanga

concept

> > > carefully. It it is caused by Kendra to Chandra then it is due to

help

> > > from society (Chandra is karaka of society). If it is by kendra

from

> > > lagna then it is due to self-effort. Hence, if Mangal is in Karka

then

> > > look for Guru of Shani being in kendra from Chandra or kendra from

> > > Lagna.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > 2. I have not understood the rule number 2 properly. I try by

> > example

> > > and u ppl let me know if i am correct. say again if mars is

debiliated

> > > (cancer), so do we have to look at jupiter (it gets exalted in

cancer)

> > > and check if it is in an angular house from moon or asecendant.

> > >

> > > [sourav]: Yes

> > >

> > > Or we to check the exaltation sign of mars (capricorn) that

whether it

> > > is in an angular house from moon or asecendant.

> > >

> > > [sourav]: No

> > > >

> > > > 3. if debility is cancelled, then we don't need to perform any

> > > remedies for debilitated planet?

> > >

> > > [sourav]: The correct word is Neecha Bhanga or 'breaking' of

neecha

> > > status. It is not cancellation. Rasi shows situation. When a graha

is

> > in

> > > neecha status, the person will face situations that are going down

or

> > > becoming unfavourable. So there is initial suffering. When the

> > > Vimsottari dasa of the graha which is bestowing neechabhanga

comes,

> > the

> > > situation will become favourable again. So there is suffering

first

> > and

> > > then removal.

> > >

> > > Incidentally, if a graha is retrograde and debilitated, without

> > > considering other neechabhanga rules, we can say that it is likely

to

> > > give exaltation status after initial suffering or opposing

> > > circumstances. Similarly, when graha is retrograde and exalted,

> > opposite

> > > will happen.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Kindly answer my queries.

> > > >

> > > > Alka

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

||Hare Rama Krsna||

 

Dear Sourav, Namaskar

 

Thanks for your welcoming. I had a nice break from everything. Trying to put

my fingers back in the right places on the keyboard again.

 

 

 

There is no extra contribution, but when the Moon is in Kendra to Lagna, it

means that the person is able to 'catch the tide' of soceities changes, and

is also very likely to reap a good reputation, name, fame, etc. However, the

lagna shows the results we physically experience, and hence all planets must

again be seen from the lagna to be sure that the native is experiencing the

effects of certain planetary placements.

 

Best wishes,

 

***

 

Visti Larsen

 

For services and articles visit:

 

<http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

 

***

 

_____

 

[] On

Behalf Of Sourav

29 July 2006 10:18

 

[Om Krishna Guru] RE:Re: cancellation of debility rules??

 

 

 

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Dear Visti-ji,

 

Namaskar. Did you notice, just when Budha stopped

Retrograding and became Direct you are back to the forum ! Just when I am

writing this, Budha is in Mithuna in Lagna conjoining Shukra and aspected by

Guru (in parivartana with Shukra). !! We were really missing your knowledge

and insight. Hope you had a nice break (from us )

 

Thank you for the knowledge on various padas of debility cancellation. What

happens if the graha giving neecha bhanga is kendra from both Lagna and

Chandra, does it contribute an extra quarter-pada ? If kendra from Chandra

is the process of neecha-bhanga does it means someone from society comes and

saves ? Because determination and practising mantra is similar to

self-effort also.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sourav

 

================================================================

, "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Sourav and Reema, Namaskar

>

> I just arrived home, and decided to post a little mail.

>

> Neecha Bhanga happens in stages and can be equated to percentages.

>

> If ONE among the planets who are (1) exalted in the debilitation sign, (2)

> lording the exaltation sign and (3) lording the debilitation sign, are in

> Kendra to lagna/moon, then the neecha bhanga is only considered to be 25%

> (1/4th pada). If two, then 50% and then considerable results are felt,

> whilst if three then it is 75%. Here the efforts are put in by the native

> either through their own efforts (lagna) or through mantra and

determination

> of mind (moon) to get OUT of the state of debilitation.

>

> Exaltation in navamsa always offers 100% neecha bhanga (purna pada), as

this

> is a blessing from GOD.

>

>

>

> Retrogression causes an atma-level-desire causing the dristis to be very

> strong, and in a debilitation sign causes a strong desire to reap the

> effects of exaltation, and through the persons own personal determination

> they reap the effects of exaltation over time.. Especially if this planet

is

> associated with lagna, otherwise the effects are restricted to the dasa of

> the particular planet. This scenarrio in an exaltation sign does cause the

> desire for renunciation of fruits, just see Saturn in the chart of Sri

> Ramakrishna Paramahamsa.

>

>

>

> Exalted planets joined debilitated planets is like a beggar meeting a

> millionaire. The Beggar benefits from the millionaires donations, whilst

the

> millionaire has to suffer the emptying of his wallet. Hence the dasa of

the

> debilitated planet becomes auspicious, whilst the opposite is so for the

> exalted planet. In my experience this is more noteworthy during dasas of

> these planets. Bill Gates has a debilitated Sun joined an exalted Saturn,

> and during Sun dasa he has continued his excellent growth of wealth.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa] On Behalf

Of

> Sourav

> 29 July 2006 07:47

> sohamsa

> Re: cancellation of debility rules??

>

>

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Reema-ji,

>

> Namaskar. Comments below. Thanks for sharing

> Sanjay-ji's old message.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

> ==============================================================

> sohamsa, "reema_sriganesh" reema_sriganesh@

> wrote:

> >

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Namaste Sourav,

> >

> > > Incidentally, if a graha is retrograde and debilitated, without

> > considering other neechabhanga

> > > rules, we can say that it is likely to give exaltation status after

> > initial suffering or opposing

> > > circumstances. Similarly, when graha is retrograde and exalted,

> > opposite will happen.

> >

> > I remember reading the following in one of the really old messages of

> > Sanjayji on Varahamihira list.

> >

> > The three conditions that cause neecha-bhanga rajayoga are:

> >

> > 1) Graha lording the sign where neecha graha is placed is in a kendra

> > from lagna or chandra

> >

> > 2) Graha lording the 7th from the sign where neecha graha is placed is

> > in a kendra from lagna or chandra

> >

> > 3) Graha getting exaltation in the sign where neecha graha is placed is

> > in a kendra from lagna or chandra

>

> [sourav]: These are traditionally accepted. Navamsa is also checked

(Neecha

> in rasi and Uchccha in Navamsa)

> >

> > In addition to these, two more conditions of neecha-bhanga rajayoga,

> > which are not mentioned in the classics, are:

>

> [sourav]: I don't think these are neecha-bhanga per se. The teaching is

that

> the results are akin to debilitation initialy and then is reversed to be

> akin to exaltation. The key word is 'akin to' for example a debilitated

> retrograde Shukra in kendra goes not give Malavya yoga but Shukra has

> strength due to being vakri ( ref. to strength rules)

> >

> > 1) Neecha graha is retrograde

> >

> > 2) Neecha graha is conjoined an uccha graha

>

> [sourav]: I didnt know of this. Thanks. However, I think the neecha graha

> pulls down the uccha graha and the uccha graha is no longer that exalted.

>

> Food for Thought:

>

> (a) Does this relief to the neecha graha depend on the Naisargika

Sambandha

> ? The reason I put this is that grahas conjoining in a house get involved

in

> graha yudda and hence this factor may influence the relief.

>

> (b) I never read about the quality of neecha-bhanga for example, which of

> the neecha-bhanga rules give more strength. This could be related to

extent

> of debility (i.e. how close the neecha graha is to its deep debility

degree)

>

>

> >

> > The last two conditions give neecha-bhanga with a lot of effort.

> >

> > This is from my recollection and so I could be slighly off.

> >

> > May Sri Vishnu bless us all,

> > Reema.

> >

> > sohamsa, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > >

> > > Dear Alka-ji,

> > >

> > > namaskar. Please find comments below.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Sourav

> > >

> > > =====================================================================

> > > sohamsa, Alka Saini alka.saini@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I am beginner in astrology and I seek some clarifications for

> > > cancellation of debility. I have read the following 4 points about

> > > cancellation of debility.

> > > >

> > > > 1. If the dipositor of the debilitated planet is in an angulare

> > house

> > > from ascendant or the moon.

> > > > 2. If the lord of the sign where such a planet is exalted is in an

> > > angle from the acendant or the moon.

> > > > 3. If the debilitated planet is aspected by its dipositor.

> > > > 4. The debilitated planet is in own or exalted Navamasa.

> > > >

> > > > What I have understood dispositor as: e.g. if mars is placed in

> > > cancer, then dispositor of mars is moon. Is my understanding correct

> > for

> > > dispositor?

> > > >

> > > > Now my doubts:

> > > >

> > > > 1. If mars is placed in cancer, its dispositor will always be moon,

> > > which will be in an angle from moon. So, does that mean that mars

> > never

> > > gets debilitated or in other words, debiliation gets cancelled due to

> > > moon.

> > >

> > > [sourav]: If that is so then Mangal will never have debility at all !

> > > But that cannot be so. We have to understand the Neechabhanga concept

> > > carefully. It it is caused by Kendra to Chandra then it is due to help

> > > from society (Chandra is karaka of society). If it is by kendra from

> > > lagna then it is due to self-effort. Hence, if Mangal is in Karka then

> > > look for Guru of Shani being in kendra from Chandra or kendra from

> > > Lagna.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > 2. I have not understood the rule number 2 properly. I try by

> > example

> > > and u ppl let me know if i am correct. say again if mars is debiliated

> > > (cancer), so do we have to look at jupiter (it gets exalted in cancer)

> > > and check if it is in an angular house from moon or asecendant.

> > >

> > > [sourav]: Yes

> > >

> > > Or we to check the exaltation sign of mars (capricorn) that whether it

> > > is in an angular house from moon or asecendant.

> > >

> > > [sourav]: No

> > > >

> > > > 3. if debility is cancelled, then we don't need to perform any

> > > remedies for debilitated planet?

> > >

> > > [sourav]: The correct word is Neecha Bhanga or 'breaking' of neecha

> > > status. It is not cancellation. Rasi shows situation. When a graha is

> > in

> > > neecha status, the person will face situations that are going down or

> > > becoming unfavourable. So there is initial suffering. When the

> > > Vimsottari dasa of the graha which is bestowing neechabhanga comes,

> > the

> > > situation will become favourable again. So there is suffering first

> > and

> > > then removal.

> > >

> > > Incidentally, if a graha is retrograde and debilitated, without

> > > considering other neechabhanga rules, we can say that it is likely to

> > > give exaltation status after initial suffering or opposing

> > > circumstances. Similarly, when graha is retrograde and exalted,

> > opposite

> > > will happen.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Kindly answer my queries.

> > > >

> > > > Alka

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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vyam vyasadevaya namah

Dear Guruji,

 

Nice to see You back and read Your arudha of knowledge.

Hope everything is alright with Your studies/exams and rest of Kendra's/trikonas.

 

Regards

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Visti Larsen

Saturday, July 29, 2006 10:25 AM

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] RE:Re: cancellation of debility rules??

 

 

 

||Hare Rama Krsna||

 

Dear Sourav, Namaskar

 

Thanks for your welcoming. I had a nice break from everything. Trying to put my fingers back in the right places on the keyboard again.

 

 

 

There is no extra contribution, but when the Moon is in Kendra to Lagna, it means that the person is able to 'catch the tide' of soceities changes, and is also very likely to reap a good reputation, name, fame, etc. However, the lagna shows the results we physically experience, and hence all planets must again be seen from the lagna to be sure that the native is experiencing the effects of certain planetary placements.

 

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[] On Behalf Of Sourav

29 July 2006 10:18

[Om Krishna Guru] RE:Re: cancellation of debility rules??

 

 

 

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Dear Visti-ji,

 

Namaskar. Did you notice, just when Budha stopped Retrograding and became Direct you are back to the forum ! Just when I am writing this, Budha is in Mithuna in Lagna conjoining Shukra and aspected by Guru (in parivartana with Shukra). !! We were really missing your knowledge and insight. Hope you had a nice break (from us )

 

Thank you for the knowledge on various padas of debility cancellation. What happens if the graha giving neecha bhanga is kendra from both Lagna and Chandra, does it contribute an extra quarter-pada ? If kendra from Chandra is the process of neecha-bhanga does it means someone from society comes and saves ? Because determination and practising mantra is similar to self-effort also.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sourav

 

================================================================

, "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Sourav and Reema, Namaskar

>

> I just arrived home, and decided to post a little mail.

>

> Neecha Bhanga happens in stages and can be equated to percentages.

>

> If ONE among the planets who are (1) exalted in the debilitation sign, (2)

> lording the exaltation sign and (3) lording the debilitation sign, are in

> Kendra to lagna/moon, then the neecha bhanga is only considered to be 25%

> (1/4th pada). If two, then 50% and then considerable results are felt,

> whilst if three then it is 75%. Here the efforts are put in by the native

> either through their own efforts (lagna) or through mantra and determination

> of mind (moon) to get OUT of the state of debilitation.

>

> Exaltation in navamsa always offers 100% neecha bhanga (purna pada), as this

> is a blessing from GOD.

>

>

>

> Retrogression causes an atma-level-desire causing the dristis to be very

> strong, and in a debilitation sign causes a strong desire to reap the

> effects of exaltation, and through the persons own personal determination

> they reap the effects of exaltation over time.. Especially if this planet is

> associated with lagna, otherwise the effects are restricted to the dasa of

> the particular planet. This scenarrio in an exaltation sign does cause the

> desire for renunciation of fruits, just see Saturn in the chart of Sri

> Ramakrishna Paramahamsa.

>

>

>

> Exalted planets joined debilitated planets is like a beggar meeting a

> millionaire. The Beggar benefits from the millionaires donations, whilst the

> millionaire has to suffer the emptying of his wallet. Hence the dasa of the

> debilitated planet becomes auspicious, whilst the opposite is so for the

> exalted planet. In my experience this is more noteworthy during dasas of

> these planets. Bill Gates has a debilitated Sun joined an exalted Saturn,

> and during Sun dasa he has continued his excellent growth of wealth.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa] On Behalf Of

> Sourav

> 29 July 2006 07:47

> sohamsa

> Re: cancellation of debility rules??

>

>

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Reema-ji,

>

> Namaskar. Comments below. Thanks for sharing

> Sanjay-ji's old message.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

> ==============================================================

> sohamsa, "reema_sriganesh" reema_sriganesh@

> wrote:

> >

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Namaste Sourav,

> >

> > > Incidentally, if a graha is retrograde and debilitated, without

> > considering other neechabhanga

> > > rules, we can say that it is likely to give exaltation status after

> > initial suffering or opposing

> > > circumstances. Similarly, when graha is retrograde and exalted,

> > opposite will happen.

> >

> > I remember reading the following in one of the really old messages of

> > Sanjayji on Varahamihira list.

> >

> > The three conditions that cause neecha-bhanga rajayoga are:

> >

> > 1) Graha lording the sign where neecha graha is placed is in a kendra

> > from lagna or chandra

> >

> > 2) Graha lording the 7th from the sign where neecha graha is placed is

> > in a kendra from lagna or chandra

> >

> > 3) Graha getting exaltation in the sign where neecha graha is placed is

> > in a kendra from lagna or chandra

>

> [sourav]: These are traditionally accepted. Navamsa is also checked (Neecha

> in rasi and Uchccha in Navamsa)

> >

> > In addition to these, two more conditions of neecha-bhanga rajayoga,

> > which are not mentioned in the classics, are:

>

> [sourav]: I don't think these are neecha-bhanga per se. The teaching is that

> the results are akin to debilitation initialy and then is reversed to be

> akin to exaltation. The key word is 'akin to' for example a debilitated

> retrograde Shukra in kendra goes not give Malavya yoga but Shukra has

> strength due to being vakri ( ref. to strength rules)

> >

> > 1) Neecha graha is retrograde

> >

> > 2) Neecha graha is conjoined an uccha graha

>

> [sourav]: I didnt know of this. Thanks. However, I think the neecha graha

> pulls down the uccha graha and the uccha graha is no longer that exalted.

>

> Food for Thought:

>

> (a) Does this relief to the neecha graha depend on the Naisargika Sambandha

> ? The reason I put this is that grahas conjoining in a house get involved in

> graha yudda and hence this factor may influence the relief.

>

> (b) I never read about the quality of neecha-bhanga for example, which of

> the neecha-bhanga rules give more strength. This could be related to extent

> of debility (i.e. how close the neecha graha is to its deep debility degree)

>

>

> >

> > The last two conditions give neecha-bhanga with a lot of effort.

> >

> > This is from my recollection and so I could be slighly off.

> >

> > May Sri Vishnu bless us all,

> > Reema.

> >

> > sohamsa, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > >

> > > Dear Alka-ji,

> > >

> > > namaskar. Please find comments below.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Sourav

> > >

> > > =====================================================================

> > > sohamsa, Alka Saini alka.saini@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I am beginner in astrology and I seek some clarifications for

> > > cancellation of debility. I have read the following 4 points about

> > > cancellation of debility.

> > > >

> > > > 1. If the dipositor of the debilitated planet is in an angulare

> > house

> > > from ascendant or the moon.

> > > > 2. If the lord of the sign where such a planet is exalted is in an

> > > angle from the acendant or the moon.

> > > > 3. If the debilitated planet is aspected by its dipositor.

> > > > 4. The debilitated planet is in own or exalted Navamasa.

> > > >

> > > > What I have understood dispositor as: e.g. if mars is placed in

> > > cancer, then dispositor of mars is moon. Is my understanding correct

> > for

> > > dispositor?

> > > >

> > > > Now my doubts:

> > > >

> > > > 1. If mars is placed in cancer, its dispositor will always be moon,

> > > which will be in an angle from moon. So, does that mean that mars

> > never

> > > gets debilitated or in other words, debiliation gets cancelled due to

> > > moon.

> > >

> > > [sourav]: If that is so then Mangal will never have debility at all !

> > > But that cannot be so. We have to understand the Neechabhanga concept

> > > carefully. It it is caused by Kendra to Chandra then it is due to help

> > > from society (Chandra is karaka of society). If it is by kendra from

> > > lagna then it is due to self-effort. Hence, if Mangal is in Karka then

> > > look for Guru of Shani being in kendra from Chandra or kendra from

> > > Lagna.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > 2. I have not understood the rule number 2 properly. I try by

> > example

> > > and u ppl let me know if i am correct. say again if mars is debiliated

> > > (cancer), so do we have to look at jupiter (it gets exalted in cancer)

> > > and check if it is in an angular house from moon or asecendant.

> > >

> > > [sourav]: Yes

> > >

> > > Or we to check the exaltation sign of mars (capricorn) that whether it

> > > is in an angular house from moon or asecendant.

> > >

> > > [sourav]: No

> > > >

> > > > 3. if debility is cancelled, then we don't need to perform any

> > > remedies for debilitated planet?

> > >

> > > [sourav]: The correct word is Neecha Bhanga or 'breaking' of neecha

> > > status. It is not cancellation. Rasi shows situation. When a graha is

> > in

> > > neecha status, the person will face situations that are going down or

> > > becoming unfavourable. So there is initial suffering. When the

> > > Vimsottari dasa of the graha which is bestowing neechabhanga comes,

> > the

> > > situation will become favourable again. So there is suffering first

> > and

> > > then removal.

> > >

> > > Incidentally, if a graha is retrograde and debilitated, without

> > > considering other neechabhanga rules, we can say that it is likely to

> > > give exaltation status after initial suffering or opposing

> > > circumstances. Similarly, when graha is retrograde and exalted,

> > opposite

> > > will happen.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Kindly answer my queries.

> > > >

> > > > Alka

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hare Rama Krsna

 

Dear Visti Ji,

 

 

> Exaltation in Navamsha always offers 100% Neecha Bhanga (purna pada), as this

> is a blessing from GOD.

 

May I ask some extra questions about Neecha Bhanga?  Does Neecha Bhanga works, if a planet debilitated in Navamsha, but exalted in  Rashi?

 

If we have FOUR Neecha Bhanga among the planets

> who are (1) exalted in the debilitation sign, (2)

> lording the exaltation sign and (3) lording the debilitation sign, are in

> Kendra to Lagna/moon,

do we have 100% Neecha Bhanga? For example in Navamsha Ma debilitated in 2nd Bhava 4th Rashi, but lord of 4th Rashi Ch in 8th Bhava 10 Rashi of Navamsha (1st Neecha Bhanga - Ch in Kendra to Ch), with Gu (2nd Neecha Bhanga - who are (1) exalted in the debilitation sign of Ma in Kendra to Ch), 10 Rashi Ma exaltation Lord Sa are in 7th Rashi 6 Bhava of Navamsha is in Kendra to Ch (3rd Neecha Bhanga) and Ma is Exalted in D1 Chart (4th Neecha Bhanga???)? Is it correct?

 

 

The same with Gu in Navamsha, but Gu is not exalted in D1. Gu with Ch are in 8th Bhava 10th Rashi in Navamsha. Ma, who has exaltation in 10th Rashi is in 4th Rashi (7th Bhava from Ch - 1st Neecha Bhanga), Ch is lord of exaltation sign of Gu is in Kendra to Ch (2nd Neecha Bhanga), and lord of the Gu debilitation sign Sa is in 7th Rashi, 6 Bhava (Kendra to Ch - 3rd Neecha Bhanga). Do we have 75% Neecha Bhanga in this case?

 

Thanks a lot in advance,

 

Youry

 

wrote on 29/07/2006 12:43:21 AM:

 

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> Dear Sourav and Reema, Namaskar

> I just arrived home, and decided to post a little mail.

> Neecha Bhanga happens in stages and can be equated to percentages.

> If ONE among the planets who are (1) exalted in the debilitation sign, (2)

> lording the exaltation sign and (3) lording the debilitation sign, are in

> Kendra to lagna/moon, then the neecha bhanga is only considered to be 25% (1/4th

> pada). If two, then 50% and then considerable results are felt, whilst if

> three then it is 75%. Here the efforts are put in by the native either through

> their own efforts (lagna) or through mantra and determination of mind (moon)

> to get OUT of the state of debilitation.

> Exaltation in navamsa always offers 100% neecha bhanga (purna pada), as this

> is a blessing from GOD.

>  

> Retrogression causes an atma-level-desire causing the dristis to be very

> strong, and in a debilitation sign causes a strong desire to reap the effects

> of exaltation, and through the persons own personal determination they reap

> the effects of exaltation over time.. Especially if this planet is associated

> with lagna, otherwise the effects are restricted to the dasa of the particular

> planet. This scenarrio in an exaltation sign does cause the desire for

> renunciation of fruits, just see Saturn in the chart of Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa.

>  

> Exalted planets joined debilitated planets is like a beggar meeting a

> millionaire. The Beggar benefits from the millionaires donations, whilst the

> millionaire has to suffer the emptying of his wallet. Hence the dasa of the

> debilitated planet becomes auspicious, whilst the opposite is so for the

> exalted planet. In my experience this is more noteworthy during dasas of these

> planets. Bill Gates has a debilitated Sun joined an exalted Saturn, and during

> Sun dasa he has continued his excellent growth of wealth.

>  

> Best wishes,

> ***

> Visti Larsen

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03 August 2006 02:58

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] RE:Re: cancellation of debility rules??

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna

 

Dear Visti Ji,

 

 

> Exaltation in Navamsha always offers 100% Neecha Bhanga (purna pada), as

this

> is a blessing from GOD.

 

May I ask some extra questions about Neecha Bhanga? Does Neecha Bhanga

works, if a planet debilitated in Navamsha, but exalted in Rashi?

 

 

 

[Visti] Actually this is the opposite of Neecha Bhanga, namely Raja-Bhanga,

where EXALTATION gets cancelled.

 

 

If we have FOUR Neecha Bhanga among the planets

> who are (1) exalted in the debilitation sign, (2)

> lording the exaltation sign and (3) lording the debilitation sign, are in

> Kendra to Lagna/moon,

do we have 100% Neecha Bhanga? For example in Navamsha Ma debilitated in 2nd

Bhava 4th Rashi, but lord of 4th Rashi Ch in 8th Bhava 10 Rashi of Navamsha

(1st Neecha Bhanga - Ch in Kendra to Ch), with Gu (2nd Neecha Bhanga - who

are (1) exalted in the debilitation sign of Ma in Kendra to Ch), 10 Rashi Ma

exaltation Lord Sa are in 7th Rashi 6 Bhava of Navamsha is in Kendra to Ch

(3rd Neecha Bhanga) and Ma is Exalted in D1 Chart (4th Neecha Bhanga???)? Is

it correct?

 

 

 

[Visti] Debilitation in navamsa is a sign that Bhagavan is punishing the

person for adharma. Dasa's of this planet are usually not easy. If we

analyze the neecha bhangas in navamsa only, then we are looking at the

effect it has on the marriage and not on the entire life in totality. I

already mentioned the effects of exaltation in rasi. In the case you

mentioned there is no neecha bhanga, only raja-bhanga.

 

The same with Gu in Navamsha, but Gu is not exalted in D1. Gu with Ch are in

8th Bhava 10th Rashi in Navamsha. Ma, who has exaltation in 10th Rashi is in

4th Rashi (7th Bhava from Ch - 1st Neecha Bhanga), Ch is lord of exaltation

sign of Gu is in Kendra to Ch (2nd Neecha Bhanga), and lord of the Gu

debilitation sign Sa is in 7th Rashi, 6 Bhava (Kendra to Ch - 3rd Neecha

Bhanga). Do we have 75% Neecha Bhanga in this case?

 

 

 

[Visti] There is no neecha bhanga. To overcome the results of neecha planets

we need to worship the Mahavidya of that planet.

 

 

Thanks a lot in advance,

 

Youry

 

wrote on 29/07/2006 12:43:21 AM:

 

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> Dear Sourav and Reema, Namaskar

> I just arrived home, and decided to post a little mail.

> Neecha Bhanga happens in stages and can be equated to percentages.

> If ONE among the planets who are (1) exalted in the debilitation sign, (2)

 

> lording the exaltation sign and (3) lording the debilitation sign, are in

> Kendra to lagna/moon, then the neecha bhanga is only considered to be 25%

(1/4th

> pada). If two, then 50% and then considerable results are felt, whilst if

> three then it is 75%. Here the efforts are put in by the native either

through

> their own efforts (lagna) or through mantra and determination of mind

(moon)

> to get OUT of the state of debilitation.

> Exaltation in navamsa always offers 100% neecha bhanga (purna pada), as

this

> is a blessing from GOD.

>

> Retrogression causes an atma-level-desire causing the dristis to be very

> strong, and in a debilitation sign causes a strong desire to reap the

effects

> of exaltation, and through the persons own personal determination they

reap

> the effects of exaltation over time.. Especially if this planet is

associated

> with lagna, otherwise the effects are restricted to the dasa of the

particular

> planet. This scenarrio in an exaltation sign does cause the desire for

> renunciation of fruits, just see Saturn in the chart of Sri Ramakrishna

Paramahamsa.

>

> Exalted planets joined debilitated planets is like a beggar meeting a

> millionaire. The Beggar benefits from the millionaires donations, whilst

the

> millionaire has to suffer the emptying of his wallet. Hence the dasa of

the

> debilitated planet becomes auspicious, whilst the opposite is so for the

> exalted planet. In my experience this is more noteworthy during dasas of

these

> planets. Bill Gates has a debilitated Sun joined an exalted Saturn, and

during

> Sun dasa he has continued his excellent growth of wealth.

>

> Best wishes,

> ***

> Visti Larsen

> For services and articles visit:

> http://srigaruda.com

> ***

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa] On Behalf

Of Sourav

> 29 July 2006 07:47

> sohamsa

> Re: cancellation of debility rules??

>

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> Dear Reema-ji,

> Namaskar. Comments below. Thanks for sharing

> Sanjay-ji's old message.

> Best wishes,

> Sourav

> ==============================================================

> sohamsa, "reema_sriganesh" <reema_sriganesh

wrote:

> >

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Namaste Sourav,

> >

> > > Incidentally, if a graha is retrograde and debilitated, without

> > considering other neechabhanga

> > > rules, we can say that it is likely to give exaltation status after

> > initial suffering or opposing

> > > circumstances. Similarly, when graha is retrograde and exalted,

> > opposite will happen.

> >

> > I remember reading the following in one of the really old messages of

> > Sanjayji on Varahamihira list.

> >

> > The three conditions that cause neecha-bhanga rajayoga are:

> >

> > 1) Graha lording the sign where neecha graha is placed is in a kendra

> > from lagna or chandra

> >

> > 2) Graha lording the 7th from the sign where neecha graha is placed is

> > in a kendra from lagna or chandra

> >

> > 3) Graha getting exaltation in the sign where neecha graha is placed is

> > in a kendra from lagna or chandra

> [sourav]: These are traditionally accepted. Navamsa is also checked

(Neecha in

> rasi and Uchccha in Navamsa)

> >

> > In addition to these, two more conditions of neecha-bhanga rajayoga,

> > which are not mentioned in the classics, are:

> [sourav]: I don't think these are neecha-bhanga per se. The teaching is

that

> the results are akin to debilitation initialy and then is reversed to be

akin

> to exaltation. The key word is 'akin to' for example a debilitated

retrograde

> Shukra in kendra goes not give Malavya yoga but Shukra has strength due to

 

> being vakri ( ref. to strength rules)

> >

> > 1) Neecha graha is retrograde

> >

> > 2) Neecha graha is conjoined an uccha graha

> [sourav]: I didnt know of this. Thanks. However, I think the neecha graha

> pulls down the uccha graha and the uccha graha is no longer that exalted.

> Food for Thought:

> (a) Does this relief to the neecha graha depend on the Naisargika

Sambandha ?

> The reason I put this is that grahas conjoining in a house get involved in

 

> graha yudda and hence this factor may influence the relief.

> (b) I never read about the quality of neecha-bhanga for example, which of

the

> neecha-bhanga rules give more strength. This could be related to extent of

 

> debility (i.e. how close the neecha graha is to its deep debility degree)

>

> >

> > The last two conditions give neecha-bhanga with a lot of effort.

> >

> > This is from my recollection and so I could be slighly off.

> >

> > May Sri Vishnu bless us all,

> > Reema.

> >

> > sohamsa, "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > >

> > > Dear Alka-ji,

> > >

> > > namaskar. Please find comments below.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > Sourav

> > >

> > > =====================================================================

> > > sohamsa, Alka Saini alka.saini@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I am beginner in astrology and I seek some clarifications for

> > > cancellation of debility. I have read the following 4 points about

> > > cancellation of debility.

> > > >

> > > > 1. If the dipositor of the debilitated planet is in an angulare

> > house

> > > from ascendant or the moon.

> > > > 2. If the lord of the sign where such a planet is exalted is in an

> > > angle from the acendant or the moon.

> > > > 3. If the debilitated planet is aspected by its dipositor.

> > > > 4. The debilitated planet is in own or exalted Navamasa.

> > > >

> > > > What I have understood dispositor as: e.g. if mars is placed in

> > > cancer, then dispositor of mars is moon. Is my understanding correct

> > for

> > > dispositor?

> > > >

> > > > Now my doubts:

> > > >

> > > > 1. If mars is placed in cancer, its dispositor will always be moon,

> > > which will be in an angle from moon. So, does that mean that mars

> > never

> > > gets debilitated or in other words, debiliation gets cancelled due to

> > > moon.

> > >

> > > [sourav]: If that is so then Mangal will never have debility at all !

> > > But that cannot be so. We have to understand the Neechabhanga concept

> > > carefully. It it is caused by Kendra to Chandra then it is due to help

> > > from society (Chandra is karaka of society). If it is by kendra from

> > > lagna then it is due to self-effort. Hence, if Mangal is in Karka then

> > > look for Guru of Shani being in kendra from Chandra or kendra from

> > > Lagna.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > 2. I have not understood the rule number 2 properly. I try by

> > example

> > > and u ppl let me know if i am correct. say again if mars is debiliated

> > > (cancer), so do we have to look at jupiter (it gets exalted in cancer)

> > > and check if it is in an angular house from moon or asecendant.

> > >

> > > [sourav]: Yes

> > >

> > > Or we to check the exaltation sign of mars (capricorn) that whether it

> > > is in an angular house from moon or asecendant.

> > >

> > > [sourav]: No

> > > >

> > > > 3. if debility is cancelled, then we don't need to perform any

> > > remedies for debilitated planet?

> > >

> > > [sourav]: The correct word is Neecha Bhanga or 'breaking' of neecha

> > > status. It is not cancellation. Rasi shows situation. When a graha is

> > in

> > > neecha status, the person will face situations that are going down or

> > > becoming unfavourable. So there is initial suffering. When the

> > > Vimsottari dasa of the graha which is bestowing neechabhanga comes,

> > the

> > > situation will become favourable again. So there is suffering first

> > and

> > > then removal.

> > >

> > > Incidentally, if a graha is retrograde and debilitated, without

> > > considering other neechabhanga rules, we can say that it is likely to

> > > give exaltation status after initial suffering or opposing

> > > circumstances. Similarly, when graha is retrograde and exalted,

> > opposite

> > > will happen.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Kindly answer my queries.

> > > >

> > > > Alka

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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||Hare Rama Krsna||

 

Dear Visti Ji,

 

Thanks a lot for your reply and explanation.

 

Sincerely yours,

 

Youry

 

wrote on 02/08/2006 11:29:27 PM:

 

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> Dear Youry, Namaskar

> Comments below.

> Best wishes,

> ***

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I want to know if I have Neechabangha Rajyoga.

<big><big></big></big>Astrological Details

 

 

 

Name: Sunder Rangarajan

Date of Birth: 06/September/1968, Friday

Time of Birth: 3.40 A.M

Place of Birth: Chennai,India.

Latitude: 13.5 N , Longitude: 80.18 E

Local Mean Time: 03:31:12

Lagna: Cancer

Lagna Lord: Moon

Sun Sign: Virgo

Sun Sign Lord: Mercury

Moon Sign: Aquarius

Moon Sign Lord: Saturn

Nakshatra: Satabisha

Nakshatra Lord: Rahu

Current Dasa: Saturn

 

 

In my horoscope 3 planets are debilitated.

Saturn is Debilitated and retrogate in Aries. Saturn is also Vargottama.

Venus is debilitated with exalted mercury and Ketu.

Mars is debilitated in lagna in cancer.

Sun in Leo(Moolatrikona)with Jupiter which is combust.

 

From April, I have Saturn Dasa and Venus Bhukti.

 

- Sunder Rangarajan

[jayaram85 0]

Dear all,

 

I am jayaram from chennai. I was born in 04-07-1985 at 5:16 pm. My lagna is dhanur and my lagna lord jupiter is Debilitated and retrograde. Whether is their any cancellation of debility in my ascendant chart. Since my lagna lord is weak, other people said that i will be facing lot of difficulties in my life. The second house for me is occupied by (jupiter and moon -Makar). My seventh place is occupied by (sun and mars-mithuna). Here my mars is in combustion with sun. My eleventh place is occupied by (exalted and retrograde saturn with kethu- Libra). So i am very much confused of these arrangement and i am unable to conclude to any particular decision. So i need your kind advices on this. People please explain me the effects and the necessary rites to do, inorder to overcome any ill effects if i have due to this planet arrangement.

 

Thanks and Regards

Jayaram