Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Nameste all gurs, I have a question, last sunday I asked a girl if she would marry me. Fortunately or unfortunately she hasnt given me an answer yet! Now my impatience is getting better of me, but I just cannot go and ask her again. So I think the starts would help me! Please can some on tell me what will her answer be? Time when i asked her: 5 th March 2006, time: 7:30 pm, Chicago USA My birth time: 16th aug 81 5:51 pm, Delhi. I am looking forward to your answers. Thanking you in anticipation! ~Madhav On 9 Mar 2006 22:08:31 -0000, < > wrote: > > > There are 25 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Analysis for Parul Sharma > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 2. Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > "gowrisys" <gowrisys > 3. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 4. Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 5. Re: Re: Astrology of Jealousy > vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > 6. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > K Gopu <kgopu_24 > 7. Online Astrology Discussion Forum > "prosenjit" <sunsigns_forum > 8. Gurujans > "vikumar_77" <vikumar_77 > 9. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 10. Re: Gurujans(25591) > "Ayush Tripathi" <ayus_tripathi > 11. Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > "gowrisys" <gowrisys > 12. example of Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "miss_astro19" <miss_astro19 > 13. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd > 14. Re: POLL: Wow! Is dowry still around? > "Tanvir" <ultimate > 15. New file uploaded to > > 16. Re: Gurujans(25591) > "vikumar_77" <vikumar_77 > 17. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 > 18. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 19. example of Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 20. Re: POLL: Wow! Is dowry still around? > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 21. Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 22. PIC: Vishnu-Garuda-Rahu-Moon together > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > 23. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd > 24. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 25. Re: Free horoscope analysys > brijesh bagga <brij731 > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:55:35 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Analysis for Parul Sharma > > Mr. Jain, > > This would not necessarily determine whether astrology is science or > not. Even Science and scientists have different opinions about > things and phenomena in science, particularly those that are not > fully known, all evidence is not in yet or Jury is out, as they say. > Weather sciences for instance are not perfect yet, and even areas in > math, physics, chemistry. > > I think the real problem is not whether astrology is science or not, > but whether it is investigated using the scientific method or not. > The latter is a demonstrable, verifiable (especially verifiable by > others and not just the primary proposer or proponent), and > reproducible etc (the yoga has to work in different hs repeatedly, > if not always). Truth be told, it is this rigour that is missing in > the way astrology is practised, researched and taught. > > Don't want to start another thread on this, but thought I should > express my views and clear any air that may again have become > stiffling! > > RR > > > , akhil jain <robby_jn > wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Tripathy, > > > > Its quite interesting that how different approaches > > yeild different results. Though it may encourage a few > > to brand the astrology is not a science, but infact it > > also suggetss that there is still lot to learn & there > > are things which are still left untouched. > > > > Its great to have members using various types of > > techniques under the single roof in this group, it > > will always serve as a whip to life long students like > > me to strive for more & more knowledge. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Akhil Jain > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 2 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:57:44 -0000 > "gowrisys" <gowrisys > Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > > Dear Ashutosh, > > Thanks for taking the time to review. I think I gave the wrong place > of birth in my earlier message and I sincerely apologize for the > same. I guess his stress is catching on me !! > > Here are his correct details > > DOB March 13th 1965 > Place of Birth Mayavaram, TamilNadu > Time 01:45 PM (in the afternoon) > > Can you please help us with his chart. > > Thanks > Gowri > > , "astrologerashutosh" > <astrologerashutosh wrote: > > > > Dear Gowri, > > > > Your husband is in ketu mahadasha, not mercury, > with ketu-jupiter going on till 21st may'06. The next antardashas of > ket-sat and ketu-mer will be a bit better than the previous ones. > Ketu dasha began in june'01. > > > > He will have a small jump in career in next three months. > The next dasha of venus will be beneficial. A major jump will come > in that period only which begins on 26th june'08. > > > > Ask him to wear a gomedh in silver on middle finger. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Ashutosh > > > > > > [The services of this astrologer are free on the astrology group, > but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable] > > > > > > - > > gowrisys > > > > Thursday, 09 March, 2006 01:30 > > Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > > > > > > Sorry, Just realized I forgot to include time and place of birth. > > Here are the details. > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > Place Coimbatore TamilNadu > > Time 01:00 PM > > > > Thanks > > > > , "gowrisys" <gowrisys@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > My husband's DOB is March 13th 1965. > > > As I understand he is currently having Marcury Maha Dasha and > > > is in the last 2.5 years for saturn transit. > > > > > > My husband's career has been stagnated for the last 6 years or > so > > > with very little improvement. This has put a lot of mental > strain > > on > > > him. > > > I am inclined to think that it is because of the saturn > transit > > > (which started in 2000), since there is a coincidence. > However, we > > > are also not very sure if it's because of the Mercury Dasa, > since > > we > > > hear from my husband's parents that saturn is well placed in > his > > > chart. We have very limited knowledge on astrlogy and are > > wondering > > > if someone can help us with his chart. > > > > > > Specifically, we are interested in knowing which planet is > > blocking > > > his career progress and if there are any remedial measures for > the > > > same. Also when can he see things moving in the right > direction? > > > Otherwise financially we are pretty happy and don't have any > major > > > concerns. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology > software > > > > > > - > ----------- > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > b.. > > > > > > c.. Terms > of Service. > > > > > > - > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 3 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:00:02 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > Hi Rishi, > > Do you remember if this article on the web or in print? We have a > situation in my community group, where I live are affected and it > piqued my astrological curiosity. > > Thanks and best wishes, > > RR > > > , "rishi_2000in" > <rishi_2000in wrote: > > > > Shri Sanjay Rath has produced a good analysis of what are termed > > as 'shadripu', the six enemies of a person. > > They are termed as 'mad' reflected by ketu; 'Kaama' desires > > reflected by rahu; Krodh..anger, reflected by Mars; lobh..greed, > > reflected by Saturn; these enemies are termed as Tamasic by which > > harm is caused to the native as well as other persons. > > Eershya or jealousy is signified by mercury and moh or attachment > by > > venus; these are the rajasic ripus which affect more the native. > > It is an interesting analysis though rarely these operate on one > > level, shades of the others merge and converge. > > For consideration please. > > > > Rishi > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of nek} > as > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal-bud } > > as " > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { bud } > > are > > > these : > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the horoscope. > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either through > > aspect > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > One of my students recently asked: What is the astrological > > > > signature of jealousy? > > > > > > > > > > > > What an interesting angle! > > > > > > > > > > > > One would think -- malefics perhaps, the universal primary > > > > scapegoats in astrology, but jealousy is complex, even when it > > > pukes > > > > out so obviously that a child would not miss. > > > > > > > > I think it could be about possession and possessiveness. The > > > missing > > > > thing that one covets to possess could be a trait, a treasure > or > > > > even just a perceived situation where someone is missing what > > > > another might have or might seem to have! A basic area or > sense > > of > > > > inadequacy often not known to the conscious self. > > > > > > > > Thinking aloud here, no final dictum yet, folks, but I think > > > strong > > > > malefics do not produce jealousy -- they force, they activate > > the > > > > need to possess as opposed to vacuously desire and lament for > > what > > > > is not owned (jealousy) and perhaps we should find some > evidence > > > (or > > > > not) of this pondered anerata or signature in the charts of > > > > dictators and taskmasters in our personal collections of > charts. > > > > They have gone to the other end of the specture. They are not > in > > > > the 'want this' but "have this and want more!" state of mind. > > Even > > > > Saddam is railing at his assailants while in a "cage"! > > > > > > > > Weak benefics under malefic influence, sapped out of their > > purity, > > > > inner strength and their natural mien, now their intrinsic > > element > > > > would be to create desire but not the will to achieve through > > hard > > > > work or self-improvement. And that, understandably and > > presumably, > > > > can lead to jealousy. > > > > > > > > Jealously is not necessarily bad or deplorable, mind you! > > > > > > > > In younger persons, children, jealousy unless overpowering can > > > often > > > > be the drive to success -- as is sometimes observed in cases > of > > > > sibling rivalry. The 'weak' sibling eventually ends up being > > > > socially more successful, but still remains jealous! Again, > > cases > > > to > > > > the contrary are not unknown either. > > > > > > > > Jealousy never breeds happiness, though, but I could be wrong - > - > > > > other forum members might have illustrations and astrological > > > > examples of situations indicating otherwise, or even personal > > > > experiences to share. Maybe there might be those who have > > > > experienced, pondered upon this matter longer and may have > found > > > > other astrological answers for why jealousy afflicts the human > > > heart > > > > and eventually the soul. > > > > > > > > What possibly could be the remedy for this cancer, > astrological, > > > > tantric or just through personal efforts and successes perhaps. > > > > > > > > Sorry for rambling on, or so some may want to judge, but I > think > > > it > > > > is important to examine and eradicate this poison that > afflicts > > > > human minds and souls. > > > > > > > > The microphone is now turned over to the "group". Let the > > > > discussion, therapy and "remedy" begin. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 4 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:09:34 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > > I think you gave a different time too, earlier :-) > We can only wait and see if the reading comes true or not. If it > does, the time did not make a big difference, if not, maybe it did :- > ) Just to put your fears to rest, I almost always do not go 'just' > with the birthdata given on internet requests because many of these > are inaccurate anyway :-) > > These readings have to be done quickly so it is also not possible to > record everything that is going through the astrologer's mind - > particularly when the astrologer types like a tortoise :-( one of > the few skills I am determined to fix in my next birthtime -- > although dragon systems speech recognition is really coming close to > perfection! > > RR > > , "gowrisys" <gowrisys > wrote: > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > Thanks for taking the time to look at his chart. > > I am sorry, I think I gave the wrong place of birth > > Here are the correct details.. > > > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > Place Mayavaram TamilNadu > > Time Afternoon 01:45 PM > > > > I am amazed at some of the things you mentioned. Yes, you are right > > that workplace politics(friends who are really enemy at heart) did > > affect his career to a large extent in 1999-2000 period. He has > > become more spiritual in the last few years, but he has become > more > > paranoid and feels helpless about his career. We have been in US > for > > about 10 years now, but again you are right - he did get some > > recognition at work during March 2005 and that kept his spirits up > > for a little while. But he is still lagging behind his peers in > > terms of career progress and that makes him highly depressed. > > > > You mentioned that you see things changing for the better after > > August 2006, with respect to his career. Does it still holds true > > with his chart now (with the correct details I have furnished > > above). Also do you see any chances of him moving to a different > job > > etc. He has recently started reading Vishu Sahasranamam on > > Wednesday's. Is Mercury the reason behind his career stagnation? > > > > Again, thanks a lot for taking the time to review. > > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Gowri ji, > > > > > > I must be looking at the wrong chart because for that date, what > > you > > > write, dashawise is not matching. > > > > > > According to what I am seeing, the period that started in > October > > > 1999 represents the sixth house and hidden enemies (friends who > > are > > > really enemy at heart) and workplace politics have somewhat > > wrongly > > > maligned and weakened his position at work. Association of > period > > > lord with debilitated mercury in 10th house does not help > matters > > > either. If he has become more spiritual/religious/surrendering > in > > > spirit since that period or a few years afterwards, then that > > > explains the exchange of sorts that uccha sun has with its > > > dispositor (this is not per classics, by the way!). If this is > not > > > the case and he remains paranoid, beligerent, cynical and > > otherwise > > > negative, please do let me know for I am looking for feedback, > not > > > having closed my books and exercise books yet (maybe just maybe - > - > > > next semester, I will graduate!). > > > > > > During the period between August 2002 and September 2003 and > again > > > between august 2004 and September 2005 was there some change in > > the > > > situation or mental outlook of your husband? Seemed like hope > was > > on > > > horizon, even some sort of talk about his trying to go abroad or > a > > > long travel or more training? And the periods were in a sense > > > generally more calming to his spirit in some ways? Mind you this > > > would not be the case throughout the period but certain moments > or > > > days stand out? It is always about the intensity of experiences > > that > > > signal that planets are at work. > > > > > > In the latter period, was there some intervention from his > father, > > > or an earlier teacher? The advice was not gentle but firm and > even > > > stern? > > > > > > I am assuming that I am looking at the correct chart and you did > > not > > > inadvertantly shared the wrong data -- you are obviously under > > some > > > stress and duress judging by your postings -- and > > understandandably > > > so :-) > > > > > > If that is so, I see a change as soon as August 2006. If all > goes > > > well, there is a significant change, in the geographical > location > > > and earnings -- a break for sure. Again after early July, the > > > chances of this increase as earlier done good karmas and deeds > > kick > > > in. > > > > > > I see no need to get overzealous and interfere with the music of > > > the 'spheres' -- often they do not like that! > > > > > > Volunteering selflessly his service towards a charity or > > > organization that serves to help women, particularly single > > mothers > > > would be advisable. > > > > > > Fasting on wednesdays for the rest of his working life or even > > > longer would not hurt. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , "gowrisys" <gowrisys@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sorry, Just realized I forgot to include time and place of > birth. > > > > Here are the details. > > > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > > > Place Coimbatore TamilNadu > > > > Time 01:00 PM > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > , "gowrisys" > <gowrisys@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > My husband's DOB is March 13th 1965. > > > > > As I understand he is currently having Marcury Maha Dasha and > > > > > is in the last 2.5 years for saturn transit. > > > > > > > > > > My husband's career has been stagnated for the last 6 years > or > > > so > > > > > with very little improvement. This has put a lot of mental > > > strain > > > > on > > > > > him. > > > > > I am inclined to think that it is because of the saturn > > transit > > > > > (which started in 2000), since there is a coincidence. > > However, > > > we > > > > > are also not very sure if it's because of the Mercury Dasa, > > > since > > > > we > > > > > hear from my husband's parents that saturn is well placed in > > his > > > > > chart. We have very limited knowledge on astrlogy and are > > > > wondering > > > > > if someone can help us with his chart. > > > > > > > > > > Specifically, we are interested in knowing which planet is > > > > blocking > > > > > his career progress and if there are any remedial measures > for > > > the > > > > > same. Also when can he see things moving in the right > > direction? > > > > > Otherwise financially we are pretty happy and don't have any > > > major > > > > > concerns. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 5 > Thu, 9 Mar 2006 06:12:25 -0800 (PST) > vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > Re: Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > Rishi ji, > I would like to volunteer for purpose of practical analysis.can I send my > data to your personal mail please > regards > krishnan > > rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in wrote: > Let me add that this is in consonance with RRji's observation that > pure malefics do more than promote jealousy and jealousy per se is > not bad. Mercury in conjunction with malefics can therefore be a > good way of understanding jealousy. > Venus can be a good karaka for understanding possesiveness.... > > rishi > > > , "rishi_2000in" > <rishi_2000in wrote: > > > > Shri Sanjay Rath has produced a good analysis of what are termed > > as 'shadripu', the six enemies of a person. > > They are termed as 'mad' reflected by ketu; 'Kaama' desires > > reflected by rahu; Krodh..anger, reflected by Mars; lobh..greed, > > reflected by Saturn; these enemies are termed as Tamasic by which > > harm is caused to the native as well as other persons. > > Eershya or jealousy is signified by mercury and moh or attachment > by > > venus; these are the rajasic ripus which affect more the native. > > It is an interesting analysis though rarely these operate on one > > level, shades of the others merge and converge. > > For consideration please. > > > > Rishi > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of nek} > as > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal-bud } > > as " > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { bud } > > are > > > these : > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the horoscope. > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either through > > aspect > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > One of my students recently asked: What is the astrological > > > > signature of jealousy? > > > > > > > > > > > > What an interesting angle! > > > > > > > > > > > > One would think -- malefics perhaps, the universal primary > > > > scapegoats in astrology, but jealousy is complex, even when it > > > pukes > > > > out so obviously that a child would not miss. > > > > > > > > I think it could be about possession and possessiveness. The > > > missing > > > > thing that one covets to possess could be a trait, a treasure > or > > > > even just a perceived situation where someone is missing what > > > > another might have or might seem to have! A basic area or > sense > > of > > > > inadequacy often not known to the conscious self. > > > > > > > > Thinking aloud here, no final dictum yet, folks, but I think > > > strong > > > > malefics do not produce jealousy -- they force, they activate > > the > > > > need to possess as opposed to vacuously desire and lament for > > what > > > > is not owned (jealousy) and perhaps we should find some > evidence > > > (or > > > > not) of this pondered anerata or signature in the charts of > > > > dictators and taskmasters in our personal collections of > charts. > > > > They have gone to the other end of the specture. They are not > in > > > > the 'want this' but "have this and want more!" state of mind. > > Even > > > > Saddam is railing at his assailants while in a "cage"! > > > > > > > > Weak benefics under malefic influence, sapped out of their > > purity, > > > > inner strength and their natural mien, now their intrinsic > > element > > > > would be to create desire but not the will to achieve through > > hard > > > > work or self-improvement. And that, understandably and > > presumably, > > > > can lead to jealousy. > > > > > > > > Jealously is not necessarily bad or deplorable, mind you! > > > > > > > > In younger persons, children, jealousy unless overpowering can > > > often > > > > be the drive to success -- as is sometimes observed in cases > of > > > > sibling rivalry. The 'weak' sibling eventually ends up being > > > > socially more successful, but still remains jealous! Again, > > cases > > > to > > > > the contrary are not unknown either. > > > > > > > > Jealousy never breeds happiness, though, but I could be wrong - > - > > > > other forum members might have illustrations and astrological > > > > examples of situations indicating otherwise, or even personal > > > > experiences to share. Maybe there might be those who have > > > > experienced, pondered upon this matter longer and may have > found > > > > other astrological answers for why jealousy afflicts the human > > > heart > > > > and eventually the soul. > > > > > > > > What possibly could be the remedy for this cancer, > astrological, > > > > tantric or just through personal efforts and successes perhaps. > > > > > > > > Sorry for rambling on, or so some may want to judge, but I > think > > > it > > > > is important to examine and eradicate this poison that > afflicts > > > > human minds and souls. > > > > > > > > The microphone is now turned over to the "group". Let the > > > > discussion, therapy and "remedy" begin. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brings words and photos together (easily) with > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail. > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 6 > Thu, 9 Mar 2006 06:46:01 -0800 (PST) > K Gopu <kgopu_24 > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > dear sir, > can we say that the feeling of jealousy is controlled > by the thoughts in the mind. astrologically mind is > more controlled by moon ( i am subjected to > correction) so if moon is afflicted or in association > with malefics or placement of moon or aspects to moon > by malefics may lead to intense jealous feelings. I > have observed that people with this jealous nature do > land up with a bad health. Once again 6th and 12th > house comes to play. Individuals with consistent > jealous feelings are the ones where astrological study > has to be done. Otherwise it is part of a normal human > behaviour to be jealous in a very subtle manner, maybe > it may be transient feeling. It is probably an inbuilt > behaviour of every individual who lives in this > material world. > > Let us overcome jealous feelings by diverting our > thoughts to God and trying to help the needy. > > May god bless all of us. > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 7 > Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:04:46 +0530 > "prosenjit" <sunsigns_forum > Online Astrology Discussion Forum > > Hello, > > Please come and join us in discussions on Western as well as Vedic > Astrology. Create your free astrology blog and more... > > Some of the recent interesting topics on the board: > > http://www.sunsigns.org/viewtopic.php?t=6394 << Morton explains karmic > tasks in one's lifetime for Abhishek by a Chalean technique. > http://www.sunsigns.org/viewtopic.php?t=6295 << An animated discussion > about Tropical astrology Vs. Sidereal Astrology > http://www.sunsigns.org/viewtopic.php?t=6270 << A discussion on > Nakshatras(Constellations) in Vedic Astrology > http://www.sunsigns.org/viewtopic.php?t=2539 << Members talk about Horary > Vs. Traditional Astrology > http://www.sunsigns.org/viewtopic.php?t=6455 << Vishwas and others talk > about the signs related to sun signs > http://www.sunsigns.org/viewtopic.php?t=6568 << Virinchi explains the > positive effects of Rudraksh > > and hundreds of other topics and discussion to share and discuss your > views on. > > Thanks, > Prosenjit > > www.sunsigns.org > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 8 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:08:53 -0000 > "vikumar_77" <vikumar_77 > Gurujans > > Kindly help. My wife is a handicap. On her pressure Iam trying a > insurance job for her. Will she get, when. Any remedy that sge gets > well. Her birth date is 14-9-1980 time 4.22 am, Gurdaspur. > > Thanks in advance > > Vinod kumar > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 9 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:13:09 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > Dear Gopu ji, > > Absolutely! When we begin exploring something like this, it is best > to use clear black and white cases with intense jealousy etc, before > testing too many subtle or fleeting instances of jealousy which can > only confuse such a study. Later, as we begin to discern certain > astrosignatures finer points can get added. That is the best > strategy, certainly. > > However, getting back to what you wrote, I think you have something > good there! Moon certainly is associated with the emotional makeup > of a person and jealousy is definitely closely associated with > emotions (moon) than perhaps with reasoning (mercury). However, the > treatment for this soul-eating disorder of the human experience > could come through talk-therapy and self-analysis (mercury) and > sometimes professional help may also be required. The weaker the > moon is or otherwise afflicted (paksha, malefics, in certain signs > which might make it more vulnerable etc), one would tend to think > that the individual may harbour jealousy. > > Mind you, it has to be several factors that (as I earlier mentioned > time and again) have to be taken into account, but since we are only > exploring here we can analyse one factor after another. Rishi > indicated certain facets, you mentioned another. This is how > astrology research and exploration builds up. There are no magical > or make or break situations that would fit in all charts. One self- > admitted individual who is very bright as far as I can tell has > scorpio moon rising, for instance. Immediately one should begin > asking questions about sun, mars, for starters -- which will define > the true state of strength of such a moon. Then the secondary rulers > also need to be considered and other malefics and benefics. Then all > of this needs to be compared with charts where scorpio moons have > little support. Kemadruma scorpio moons for instance, although even > there one must be cautious because there could be strong nakshatra > sambandhas or in other vargas which could nullify the 'loneliness' > of such a moon. > > Just sharing some thoughts with you, on research. > > Staying anchored in divine thoughts and on God is good advice too -- > and gets easier as other options become limited, as one progresses > in life. > > RR > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > > > dear sir, > > can we say that the feeling of jealousy is controlled > > by the thoughts in the mind. astrologically mind is > > more controlled by moon ( i am subjected to > > correction) so if moon is afflicted or in association > > with malefics or placement of moon or aspects to moon > > by malefics may lead to intense jealous feelings. I > > have observed that people with this jealous nature do > > land up with a bad health. Once again 6th and 12th > > house comes to play. Individuals with consistent > > jealous feelings are the ones where astrological study > > has to be done. Otherwise it is part of a normal human > > behaviour to be jealous in a very subtle manner, maybe > > it may be transient feeling. It is probably an inbuilt > > behaviour of every individual who lives in this > > material world. > > > > Let us overcome jealous feelings by diverting our > > thoughts to God and trying to help the needy. > > > > May god bless all of us. > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 10 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:46:22 -0000 > "Ayush Tripathi" <ayus_tripathi > Re: Gurujans(25591) > > Dear Vinod, > > Your wife's Birth Chart is very clear and easy to read. Your Q. > regarding her job is correct. Your wife became a handicap in the Ist > fortnight of May 2001 as an aftereffect of severe typhoid. Right! > > She will definitely get Insurance job in December, 2006 and she will > get cured of her present ailment in the IInd half of year 2014 > (Shani-Rahu-Guru period). She should wear a Yellow Saphire > (Pukhraz) in the First finger of left hand on a Thursday morning. > > Best wishes, > > tripathi., "vikumar_77" > <vikumar_77 wrote: > > > > Kindly help. My wife is a handicap. On her pressure Iam trying a > > insurance job for her. Will she get, when. Any remedy that sge > gets > > well. Her birth date is 14-9-1980 time 4.22 am, Gurdaspur. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Vinod kumar > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 11 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:12:21 -0000 > "gowrisys" <gowrisys > Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > > Dear RR ji, > > Thanks. Just curious, is he is going through Mercury Maha Dasha > as per his correct birth details. > > Thanks > Gowri > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb > wrote: > > > > I think you gave a different time too, earlier :-) > > We can only wait and see if the reading comes true or not. If it > > does, the time did not make a big difference, if not, maybe it > did :- > > ) Just to put your fears to rest, I almost always do not go 'just' > > with the birthdata given on internet requests because many of > these > > are inaccurate anyway :-) > > > > These readings have to be done quickly so it is also not possible > to > > record everything that is going through the astrologer's mind - > > particularly when the astrologer types like a tortoise :-( one of > > the few skills I am determined to fix in my next birthtime -- > > although dragon systems speech recognition is really coming close > to > > perfection! > > > > RR > > > > , "gowrisys" <gowrisys@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > > > Thanks for taking the time to look at his chart. > > > I am sorry, I think I gave the wrong place of birth > > > Here are the correct details.. > > > > > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > > Place Mayavaram TamilNadu > > > Time Afternoon 01:45 PM > > > > > > I am amazed at some of the things you mentioned. Yes, you are > right > > > that workplace politics(friends who are really enemy at heart) > did > > > affect his career to a large extent in 1999-2000 period. He has > > > become more spiritual in the last few years, but he has become > > more > > > paranoid and feels helpless about his career. We have been in US > > for > > > about 10 years now, but again you are right - he did get some > > > recognition at work during March 2005 and that kept his spirits > up > > > for a little while. But he is still lagging behind his peers in > > > terms of career progress and that makes him highly depressed. > > > > > > You mentioned that you see things changing for the better after > > > August 2006, with respect to his career. Does it still holds > true > > > with his chart now (with the correct details I have furnished > > > above). Also do you see any chances of him moving to a different > > job > > > etc. He has recently started reading Vishu Sahasranamam on > > > Wednesday's. Is Mercury the reason behind his career stagnation? > > > > > > Again, thanks a lot for taking the time to review. > > > > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Gowri ji, > > > > > > > > I must be looking at the wrong chart because for that date, > what > > > you > > > > write, dashawise is not matching. > > > > > > > > According to what I am seeing, the period that started in > > October > > > > 1999 represents the sixth house and hidden enemies (friends > who > > > are > > > > really enemy at heart) and workplace politics have somewhat > > > wrongly > > > > maligned and weakened his position at work. Association of > > period > > > > lord with debilitated mercury in 10th house does not help > > matters > > > > either. If he has become more spiritual/religious/surrendering > > in > > > > spirit since that period or a few years afterwards, then that > > > > explains the exchange of sorts that uccha sun has with its > > > > dispositor (this is not per classics, by the way!). If this is > > not > > > > the case and he remains paranoid, beligerent, cynical and > > > otherwise > > > > negative, please do let me know for I am looking for feedback, > > not > > > > having closed my books and exercise books yet (maybe just > maybe - > > - > > > > next semester, I will graduate!). > > > > > > > > During the period between August 2002 and September 2003 and > > again > > > > between august 2004 and September 2005 was there some change > in > > > the > > > > situation or mental outlook of your husband? Seemed like hope > > was > > > on > > > > horizon, even some sort of talk about his trying to go abroad > or > > a > > > > long travel or more training? And the periods were in a sense > > > > generally more calming to his spirit in some ways? Mind you > this > > > > would not be the case throughout the period but certain > moments > > or > > > > days stand out? It is always about the intensity of > experiences > > > that > > > > signal that planets are at work. > > > > > > > > In the latter period, was there some intervention from his > > father, > > > > or an earlier teacher? The advice was not gentle but firm and > > even > > > > stern? > > > > > > > > I am assuming that I am looking at the correct chart and you > did > > > not > > > > inadvertantly shared the wrong data -- you are obviously under > > > some > > > > stress and duress judging by your postings -- and > > > understandandably > > > > so :-) > > > > > > > > If that is so, I see a change as soon as August 2006. If all > > goes > > > > well, there is a significant change, in the geographical > > location > > > > and earnings -- a break for sure. Again after early July, the > > > > chances of this increase as earlier done good karmas and deeds > > > kick > > > > in. > > > > > > > > I see no need to get overzealous and interfere with the music > of > > > > the 'spheres' -- often they do not like that! > > > > > > > > Volunteering selflessly his service towards a charity or > > > > organization that serves to help women, particularly single > > > mothers > > > > would be advisable. > > > > > > > > Fasting on wednesdays for the rest of his working life or even > > > > longer would not hurt. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "gowrisys" > <gowrisys@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, Just realized I forgot to include time and place of > > birth. > > > > > Here are the details. > > > > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > > > > Place Coimbatore TamilNadu > > > > > Time 01:00 PM > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > , "gowrisys" > > <gowrisys@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband's DOB is March 13th 1965. > > > > > > As I understand he is currently having Marcury Maha Dasha > and > > > > > > is in the last 2.5 years for saturn transit. > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband's career has been stagnated for the last 6 > years > > or > > > > so > > > > > > with very little improvement. This has put a lot of mental > > > > strain > > > > > on > > > > > > him. > > > > > > I am inclined to think that it is because of the saturn > > > transit > > > > > > (which started in 2000), since there is a coincidence. > > > However, > > > > we > > > > > > are also not very sure if it's because of the Mercury > Dasa, > > > > since > > > > > we > > > > > > hear from my husband's parents that saturn is well placed > in > > > his > > > > > > chart. We have very limited knowledge on astrlogy and are > > > > > wondering > > > > > > if someone can help us with his chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Specifically, we are interested in knowing which planet is > > > > > blocking > > > > > > his career progress and if there are any remedial measures > > for > > > > the > > > > > > same. Also when can he see things moving in the right > > > direction? > > > > > > Otherwise financially we are pretty happy and don't have > any > > > > major > > > > > > concerns. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 12 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:24:34 -0000 > "miss_astro19" <miss_astro19 > example of Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > > dear members, wht away to furthur enhance this discussion than with > a living example of such behaviours. > > ive been posting details of a boy who is my cousin, now this boy > has a very jealous nature, he is very possesive, > he is sometimes, very positive but most of the times very negative, > sometimes too autocratic sometimes very democratic. he is a strange > psyco case, very insecure, very fearful, had many strange > inferirority complexes, tried to commit suicide many times, fell and > got decived in love thrice, but he is a genius, i 'm sure there are > few people when it comes to brain like him specially when it comes > to versatility, very hardworking but seldom got results of his hard > work. > > we can discuss after having his chart analysed all factors leading > to jealosy in extremes in humans. > > > dob--- 26/11/1981 > tob--- 16:08 > pob--- ajmer > > > looking forward to worthy discussions. > > ann > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > > > dear sir, > > can we say that the feeling of jealousy is controlled > > by the thoughts in the mind. astrologically mind is > > more controlled by moon ( i am subjected to > > correction) so if moon is afflicted or in association > > with malefics or placement of moon or aspects to moon > > by malefics may lead to intense jealous feelings. I > > have observed that people with this jealous nature do > > land up with a bad health. Once again 6th and 12th > > house comes to play. Individuals with consistent > > jealous feelings are the ones where astrological study > > has to be done. Otherwise it is part of a normal human > > behaviour to be jealous in a very subtle manner, maybe > > it may be transient feeling. It is probably an inbuilt > > behaviour of every individual who lives in this > > material world. > > > > Let us overcome jealous feelings by diverting our > > thoughts to God and trying to help the needy. > > > > May god bless all of us. > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 13 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:29:18 -0000 > "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > Respected Rohini ji, > > There is a concept of `masnui grah' in lal Kitab. If we mix two > colours a third one is formed , similarly when two planets meet or > have `yuti' they form a third artificial planet { masnui grah} or > the other way round , meaning every planet is composed of two > element. Mangal-bud is composed of Sun + Saturn or the other way > round Sun + Saturn are the constituents of mangal-bud. > How venus placed in the 9th house acts like a mangal-bud has been > beautifully explained by Dr.Bhooshanpriy in one of the articles in > file section of his group' lalkitabremedies'. If you are interested > in knowing more about it you can read it. > > lalkitabremedies/ > > Among so many other things , mangal bud also represents jealousy. > Whenever I have been specifically asked about jealousy , and when I > looked , I have invariably found the involvement of mangal-bud. I > don't remember exactly how many cases , may be four or five so far. > > With naman to all gurujan. > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb > wrote: > > > > Thanks for your input. One follow-up question. Why would mars > become > > bad (bud) if sun and saturn are joined or when venus is in 9th > house? > > Does the red book also state if these planets need to be in a > > certain house from mars or would the sun-saturn yuti can be in any > > house, for instance? > > > > I am especially interested in the sun-saturn combination. Also, > have > > you tested these tenets and found them working (none, some, all?). > > Your response would be of great help to practical astrologers and > > students of jyotish. > > > > RR > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of nek} > as > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal-bud } > > as " > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { bud } > > are > > > these : > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the horoscope. > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either through > > aspect > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 14 > Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:03:51 +0600 > "Tanvir" <ultimate > Re: POLL: Wow! Is dowry still around? > > Rohini Ji, Are you proposing to create a poll? 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You have given v. > lengthy time of her cure. it will be v. difficult. I fully hope > that she will get insurance job in dec.,this year as you have > predicted. How many ratti pukhraz she should wear. Please tell. > > lot of regards, > > Vinod kumar, "Ayush > Tripathi" <ayus_tripathi wrote: > > > > Dear Vinod, > > > > Your wife's Birth Chart is very clear and easy to read. Your Q. > > regarding her job is correct. Your wife became a handicap in the > Ist > > fortnight of May 2001 as an aftereffect of severe typhoid. Right! > > > > She will definitely get Insurance job in December, 2006 and she > will > > get cured of her present ailment in the IInd half of year 2014 > > (Shani-Rahu-Guru period). She should wear a Yellow Saphire > > (Pukhraz) in the First finger of left hand on a Thursday morning. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > tripathi., "vikumar_77" > > <vikumar_77@> wrote: > > > > > > Kindly help. My wife is a handicap. On her pressure Iam trying > a > > > insurance job for her. Will she get, when. Any remedy that > sge > > gets > > > well. Her birth date is 14-9-1980 time 4.22 am, Gurdaspur. > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > Vinod kumar > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 17 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:29:13 -0000 > "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > dear varun ji > > it is nice knowing your knowledge in lalkitab which i also studied > for its having remedies even for the poorest of the poor person. > since you are the only other member who writes on lalkitab in this > group, i put my understanding here. > > according to the redbook, in a chart where sun+saturn conjunction > takes place, not only mars becomes "bud", even rahu becomes "neech" > besides mercury becoming weak. however, these results are witnessed > only till the period of 36 years of age. please advise if my > understanding is correct or not. > > with best wishes > arjun > > , "varun_trvd" > <varun_trvd wrote: > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > There is a concept of `masnui grah' in lal Kitab. If we mix two > > colours a third one is formed , similarly when two planets meet or > > have `yuti' they form a third artificial planet { masnui grah} or > > the other way round , meaning every planet is composed of two > > element. Mangal-bud is composed of Sun + Saturn or the other way > > round Sun + Saturn are the constituents of mangal-bud. > > How venus placed in the 9th house acts like a mangal-bud has been > > beautifully explained by Dr.Bhooshanpriy in one of the articles in > > file section of his group' lalkitabremedies'. If you are > interested > > in knowing more about it you can read it. > > > > lalkitabremedies/ > > > > Among so many other things , mangal bud also represents jealousy. > > Whenever I have been specifically asked about jealousy , and when > I > > looked , I have invariably found the involvement of mangal-bud. I > > don't remember exactly how many cases , may be four or five so far. > > > > With naman to all gurujan. > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for your input. One follow-up question. Why would mars > > become > > > bad (bud) if sun and saturn are joined or when venus is in 9th > > house? > > > Does the red book also state if these planets need to be in a > > > certain house from mars or would the sun-saturn yuti can be in > any > > > house, for instance? > > > > > > I am especially interested in the sun-saturn combination. Also, > > have > > > you tested these tenets and found them working (none, some, > all?). > > > Your response would be of great help to practical astrologers > and > > > students of jyotish. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of nek} > > as > > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal- > bud } > > > as " > > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { > bud } > > > are > > > > these : > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the horoscope. > > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either through > > > aspect > > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 18 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:39:37 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > This is wonderful information and thanks for sharing! And, it is > such a great happenstance that you have already studied this topic a > bit. I do not want to impose upon you unnecessarily but if you care > to share some or all of those charts and take us through the steps > of deduction as per lal kitab, that would be greatly appreciated. > > I like the concept of planets within planets, kind of like the > colour spectrums. Hmm... > > Thanks > > RR > , "varun_trvd" > <varun_trvd wrote: > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > There is a concept of `masnui grah' in lal Kitab. If we mix two > > colours a third one is formed , similarly when two planets meet or > > have `yuti' they form a third artificial planet { masnui grah} or > > the other way round , meaning every planet is composed of two > > element. Mangal-bud is composed of Sun + Saturn or the other way > > round Sun + Saturn are the constituents of mangal-bud. > > How venus placed in the 9th house acts like a mangal-bud has been > > beautifully explained by Dr.Bhooshanpriy in one of the articles in > > file section of his group' lalkitabremedies'. If you are > interested > > in knowing more about it you can read it. > > > > lalkitabremedies/ > > > > Among so many other things , mangal bud also represents jealousy. > > Whenever I have been specifically asked about jealousy , and when > I > > looked , I have invariably found the involvement of mangal-bud. I > > don't remember exactly how many cases , may be four or five so far. > > > > With naman to all gurujan. > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for your input. One follow-up question. Why would mars > > become > > > bad (bud) if sun and saturn are joined or when venus is in 9th > > house? > > > Does the red book also state if these planets need to be in a > > > certain house from mars or would the sun-saturn yuti can be in > any > > > house, for instance? > > > > > > I am especially interested in the sun-saturn combination. Also, > > have > > > you tested these tenets and found them working (none, some, > all?). > > > Your response would be of great help to practical astrologers > and > > > students of jyotish. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of nek} > > as > > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal- > bud } > > > as " > > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { > bud } > > > are > > > > these : > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the horoscope. > > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either through > > > aspect > > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 19 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:42:29 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > example of Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > Ann -- if you happen to be reading this, thank you very much for the > data for your cousin. I am sure someone may volunteer to look at the > chart and enlighten us, or if that does not happen, as we get more > factors, we all can put our heads together and see if we can explain > based on the new information that is coming out -- particularly > interesting is Mr. Varun's posts on Lal Kitab (Red book -- I am > being presumptive in assuming that you do not speak hindustani, > hindi or urdu). > > Thanks for sharing, the only way to learn > > RR > > , "miss_astro19" > <miss_astro19 wrote: > > > > > > dear members, wht away to furthur enhance this discussion than > with > > a living example of such behaviours. > > > > ive been posting details of a boy who is my cousin, now this boy > > has a very jealous nature, he is very possesive, > > he is sometimes, very positive but most of the times very > negative, > > sometimes too autocratic sometimes very democratic. he is a > strange > > psyco case, very insecure, very fearful, had many strange > > inferirority complexes, tried to commit suicide many times, fell > and > > got decived in love thrice, but he is a genius, i 'm sure there > are > > few people when it comes to brain like him specially when it comes > > to versatility, very hardworking but seldom got results of his > hard > > work. > > > > we can discuss after having his chart analysed all factors > leading > > to jealosy in extremes in humans. > > > > > > dob--- 26/11/1981 > > tob--- 16:08 > > pob--- ajmer > > > > > > looking forward to worthy discussions. > > > > ann > > > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote: > > > > > > dear sir, > > > can we say that the feeling of jealousy is controlled > > > by the thoughts in the mind. astrologically mind is > > > more controlled by moon ( i am subjected to > > > correction) so if moon is afflicted or in association > > > with malefics or placement of moon or aspects to moon > > > by malefics may lead to intense jealous feelings. I > > > have observed that people with this jealous nature do > > > land up with a bad health. Once again 6th and 12th > > > house comes to play. Individuals with consistent > > > jealous feelings are the ones where astrological study > > > has to be done. Otherwise it is part of a normal human > > > behaviour to be jealous in a very subtle manner, maybe > > > it may be transient feeling. It is probably an inbuilt > > > behaviour of every individual who lives in this > > > material world. > > > > > > Let us overcome jealous feelings by diverting our > > > thoughts to God and trying to help the needy. > > > > > > May god bless all of us. > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 20 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:46:02 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: POLL: Wow! Is dowry still around? > > Rigid polls using poll options often leave a lot less options > to really understand something hence I opted to use the discussion > forum. I not only want to know if the scourge of dowry still exists, > and how much and then at some point perhaps a few examples of > instances where dowry was demanded vs dowry was declined could be > examined using astrology. > > I hope I am not breaking any of your rules by posting on your forum! > > RR > > > , "Tanvir" <ultimate > wrote: > > > > Rohini Ji, Are you proposing to create a poll? Members are given > the power to create polls whenever they feel necessary. > > > > Not really sure about your post! > > > > Regards > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > What cannot happen, can never happen. > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) > > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving > remedies > > Where relief and solutions are found > > > > - > > crystal pages > > > > Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:12 AM > > POLL: Wow! Is dowry still around? > > > > > > Is it, really? > > > > Tell us more -- no names please -- we do not want Tanvir to get > in > > trouble ;-) > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology > software > > > > > > - > ----------- > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > b.. > > > > > > c.. Terms > of Service. > > > > > > - > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 21 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:51:25 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > > No, it would be tail end of ketu or early venus depending on which > ayanamsha and dasha year duration the astrologer is using. > > RR > > , "gowrisys" <gowrisys > wrote: > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > Thanks. Just curious, is he is going through Mercury Maha Dasha > > as per his correct birth details. > > > > Thanks > > Gowri > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I think you gave a different time too, earlier :-) > > > We can only wait and see if the reading comes true or not. If it > > > does, the time did not make a big difference, if not, maybe it > > did :- > > > ) Just to put your fears to rest, I almost always do not > go 'just' > > > with the birthdata given on internet requests because many of > > these > > > are inaccurate anyway :-) > > > > > > These readings have to be done quickly so it is also not > possible > > to > > > record everything that is going through the astrologer's mind - > > > particularly when the astrologer types like a tortoise :-( one > of > > > the few skills I am determined to fix in my next birthtime -- > > > although dragon systems speech recognition is really coming > close > > to > > > perfection! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , "gowrisys" <gowrisys@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for taking the time to look at his chart. > > > > I am sorry, I think I gave the wrong place of birth > > > > Here are the correct details.. > > > > > > > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > > > Place Mayavaram TamilNadu > > > > Time Afternoon 01:45 PM > > > > > > > > I am amazed at some of the things you mentioned. Yes, you are > > right > > > > that workplace politics(friends who are really enemy at heart) > > did > > > > affect his career to a large extent in 1999-2000 period. He > has > > > > become more spiritual in the last few years, but he has become > > > more > > > > paranoid and feels helpless about his career. We have been in > US > > > for > > > > about 10 years now, but again you are right - he did get some > > > > recognition at work during March 2005 and that kept his > spirits > > up > > > > for a little while. But he is still lagging behind his peers > in > > > > terms of career progress and that makes him highly depressed. > > > > > > > > You mentioned that you see things changing for the better > after > > > > August 2006, with respect to his career. Does it still holds > > true > > > > with his chart now (with the correct details I have furnished > > > > above). Also do you see any chances of him moving to a > different > > > job > > > > etc. He has recently started reading Vishu Sahasranamam on > > > > Wednesday's. Is Mercury the reason behind his career > stagnation? > > > > > > > > Again, thanks a lot for taking the time to review. > > > > > > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" > <rrgb@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Gowri ji, > > > > > > > > > > I must be looking at the wrong chart because for that date, > > what > > > > you > > > > > write, dashawise is not matching. > > > > > > > > > > According to what I am seeing, the period that started in > > > October > > > > > 1999 represents the sixth house and hidden enemies (friends > > who > > > > are > > > > > really enemy at heart) and workplace politics have somewhat > > > > wrongly > > > > > maligned and weakened his position at work. Association of > > > period > > > > > lord with debilitated mercury in 10th house does not help > > > matters > > > > > either. If he has become more > spiritual/religious/surrendering > > > in > > > > > spirit since that period or a few years afterwards, then > that > > > > > explains the exchange of sorts that uccha sun has with its > > > > > dispositor (this is not per classics, by the way!). If this > is > > > not > > > > > the case and he remains paranoid, beligerent, cynical and > > > > otherwise > > > > > negative, please do let me know for I am looking for > feedback, > > > not > > > > > having closed my books and exercise books yet (maybe just > > maybe - > > > - > > > > > next semester, I will graduate!). > > > > > > > > > > During the period between August 2002 and September 2003 and > > > again > > > > > between august 2004 and September 2005 was there some change > > in > > > > the > > > > > situation or mental outlook of your husband? Seemed like > hope > > > was > > > > on > > > > > horizon, even some sort of talk about his trying to go > abroad > > or > > > a > > > > > long travel or more training? And the periods were in a > sense > > > > > generally more calming to his spirit in some ways? Mind you > > this > > > > > would not be the case throughout the period but certain > > moments > > > or > > > > > days stand out? It is always about the intensity of > > experiences > > > > that > > > > > signal that planets are at work. > > > > > > > > > > In the latter period, was there some intervention from his > > > father, > > > > > or an earlier teacher? The advice was not gentle but firm > and > > > even > > > > > stern? > > > > > > > > > > I am assuming that I am looking at the correct chart and you > > did > > > > not > > > > > inadvertantly shared the wrong data -- you are obviously > under > > > > some > > > > > stress and duress judging by your postings -- and > > > > understandandably > > > > > so :-) > > > > > > > > > > If that is so, I see a change as soon as August 2006. If all > > > goes > > > > > well, there is a significant change, in the geographical > > > location > > > > > and earnings -- a break for sure. Again after early July, > the > > > > > chances of this increase as earlier done good karmas and > deeds > > > > kick > > > > > in. > > > > > > > > > > I see no need to get overzealous and interfere with the > music > > of > > > > > the 'spheres' -- often they do not like that! > > > > > > > > > > Volunteering selflessly his service towards a charity or > > > > > organization that serves to help women, particularly single > > > > mothers > > > > > would be advisable. > > > > > > > > > > Fasting on wednesdays for the rest of his working life or > even > > > > > longer would not hurt. > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , "gowrisys" > > <gowrisys@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, Just realized I forgot to include time and place of > > > birth. > > > > > > Here are the details. > > > > > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > > > > > Place Coimbatore TamilNadu > > > > > > Time 01:00 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > , "gowrisys" > > > <gowrisys@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband's DOB is March 13th 1965. > > > > > > > As I understand he is currently having Marcury Maha > Dasha > > and > > > > > > > is in the last 2.5 years for saturn transit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband's career has been stagnated for the last 6 > > years > > > or > > > > > so > > > > > > > with very little improvement. This has put a lot of > mental > > > > > strain > > > > > > on > > > > > > > him. > > > > > > > I am inclined to think that it is because of the saturn > > > > transit > > > > > > > (which started in 2000), since there is a coincidence. > > > > However, > > > > > we > > > > > > > are also not very sure if it's because of the Mercury > > Dasa, > > > > > since > > > > > > we > > > > > > > hear from my husband's parents that saturn is well > placed > > in > > > > his > > > > > > > chart. We have very limited knowledge on astrlogy and > are > > > > > > wondering > > > > > > > if someone can help us with his chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Specifically, we are interested in knowing which planet > is > > > > > > blocking > > > > > > > his career progress and if there are any remedial > measures > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > same. Also when can he see things moving in the right > > > > direction? > > > > > > > Otherwise financially we are pretty happy and don't have > > any > > > > > major > > > > > > > concerns. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 22 > Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:54:56 +0000 (GMT) > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > PIC: Vishnu-Garuda-Rahu-Moon together > > PICTURE: Vishnu-Garuda-Rahu-Moon together set with Tri-ratna, flawless > cat's eye, diamond and hessonite, in 21k gold. > > sacred-objects/ <---Svagatam!!! > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 23 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:30:48 -0000 > "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > Respected Rohini ji, > > I am not a professional astrologer, it is just a hobby. I do not > get to study many charts. But next time you come across a chart > with a malefic mars { mangal-bud } just assess the native for > jealousy. If I happen to come across one , I would love to share > with you. > > With naman to all gurujan, > > Varun Trivedi > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb > wrote: > > > > This is wonderful information and thanks for sharing! And, it is > > such a great happenstance that you have already studied this topic > a > > bit. I do not want to impose upon you unnecessarily but if you > care > > to share some or all of those charts and take us through the steps > > of deduction as per lal kitab, that would be greatly appreciated. > > > > I like the concept of planets within planets, kind of like the > > colour spectrums. Hmm... > > > > Thanks > > > > RR > > , "varun_trvd" > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > There is a concept of `masnui grah' in lal Kitab. If we mix two > > > colours a third one is formed , similarly when two planets meet > or > > > have `yuti' they form a third artificial planet { masnui grah} > or > > > the other way round , meaning every planet is composed of two > > > element. Mangal-bud is composed of Sun + Saturn or the other way > > > round Sun + Saturn are the constituents of mangal-bud. > > > How venus placed in the 9th house acts like a mangal-bud has > been > > > beautifully explained by Dr.Bhooshanpriy in one of the articles > in > > > file section of his group' lalkitabremedies'. If you are > > interested > > > in knowing more about it you can read it. > > > > > > lalkitabremedies/ > > > > > > Among so many other things , mangal bud also represents > jealousy. > > > Whenever I have been specifically asked about jealousy , and > when > > I > > > looked , I have invariably found the involvement of mangal-bud. > I > > > don't remember exactly how many cases , may be four or five so > far. > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan. > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input. One follow-up question. Why would mars > > > become > > > > bad (bud) if sun and saturn are joined or when venus is in 9th > > > house? > > > > Does the red book also state if these planets need to be in a > > > > certain house from mars or would the sun-saturn yuti can be in > > any > > > > house, for instance? > > > > > > > > I am especially interested in the sun-saturn combination. > Also, > > > have > > > > you tested these tenets and found them working (none, some, > > all?). > > > > Your response would be of great help to practical astrologers > > and > > > > students of jyotish. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of > nek} > > > as > > > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal- > > bud } > > > > as " > > > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { > > bud } > > > > are > > > > > these : > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the horoscope. > > > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either > through > > > > aspect > > > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 24 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 21:56:43 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > In fact most of us on the forum are not professional. So you are in > like company :-) > That would be great if you could discuss, when you have time. And, > if you run into the charts you mentioned you saw earlier with the > lal kitab combinations, if you can find the time, please do post a > few words about those with birthdata etc. > > dhanyavaad > > RR > > , "varun_trvd" > <varun_trvd wrote: > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > I am not a professional astrologer, it is just a hobby. I do not > > get to study many charts. But next time you come across a chart > > with a malefic mars { mangal-bud } just assess the native for > > jealousy. If I happen to come across one , I would love to share > > with you. > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > This is wonderful information and thanks for sharing! And, it is > > > such a great happenstance that you have already studied this > topic > > a > > > bit. I do not want to impose upon you unnecessarily but if you > > care > > > to share some or all of those charts and take us through the > steps > > > of deduction as per lal kitab, that would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > I like the concept of planets within planets, kind of like the > > > colour spectrums. Hmm... > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > RR > > > , "varun_trvd" > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > There is a concept of `masnui grah' in lal Kitab. If we mix > two > > > > colours a third one is formed , similarly when two planets > meet > > or > > > > have `yuti' they form a third artificial planet { masnui grah} > > or > > > > the other way round , meaning every planet is composed of two > > > > element. Mangal-bud is composed of Sun + Saturn or the other > way > > > > round Sun + Saturn are the constituents of mangal-bud. > > > > How venus placed in the 9th house acts like a mangal-bud has > > been > > > > beautifully explained by Dr.Bhooshanpriy in one of the > articles > > in > > > > file section of his group' lalkitabremedies'. If you are > > > interested > > > > in knowing more about it you can read it. > > > > > > > > lalkitabremedies/ > > > > > > > > Among so many other things , mangal bud also represents > > jealousy. > > > > Whenever I have been specifically asked about jealousy , and > > when > > > I > > > > looked , I have invariably found the involvement of mangal- > bud. > > I > > > > don't remember exactly how many cases , may be four or five so > > far. > > > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan. > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" > <rrgb@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input. One follow-up question. Why would > mars > > > > become > > > > > bad (bud) if sun and saturn are joined or when venus is in > 9th > > > > house? > > > > > Does the red book also state if these planets need to be in > a > > > > > certain house from mars or would the sun-saturn yuti can be > in > > > any > > > > > house, for instance? > > > > > > > > > > I am especially interested in the sun-saturn combination. > > Also, > > > > have > > > > > you tested these tenets and found them working (none, some, > > > all?). > > > > > Your response would be of great help to practical > astrologers > > > and > > > > > students of jyotish. > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of > > nek} > > > > as > > > > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal- > > > bud } > > > > > as " > > > > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { > > > bud } > > > > > are > > > > > > these : > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the > horoscope. > > > > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either > > through > > > > > aspect > > > > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 25 > Thu, 9 Mar 2006 14:08:28 -0800 (PST) > brijesh bagga <brij731 > Re: Free horoscope analysys > > Dear Ashish, > Yes it is a big blunder the bhakoot dosha as she > landed in canada on 11dec and on 14th dec she madew some baseless arguments > and till this date i dont talk to her frequently. Thanks > Brij > > Ashish Astrologer <ashastro wrote: > > dear brijesh > 14-09-05 to mar-06 you may change your job as well as the place currently > liveing in > god bless > ashish > > > brijesh bagga <brij731 wrote: > Dear Ashish, > Thanks for your reply and we were just married on dec27 > 2004 but never had any honeymoon as the star of marriage was down at the > time of marriage so someone suggested that you can perform only marriage. So > may be in few months she will land in canada. Please do have a look as i am > planning for a job change when can i get it. > > Brijesh > > Ashish Astrologer <ashastro wrote: > dear brijesh > see i will tell you point blank why because it is always good to tell the > truth > 1.) till the time you are abroad i dont think you will face problem with > your job or finential needs > you might have faced this before that your marraige will defintely cause > you troubles because you will have to spend > more then what you wish > well you should have counselted someone before marraige because the bhakut > match decides the compatibility between the > bride and groom so there will be a few hbits of your and your wife which > will be a cause of misunderstnding > so i suggest you to be more understanding this time becuse see i dont > think divorce is only solution to every thing > if you decide to adjust a little it can help you my be tell me when your > married life start be specific about your problems > i will see how i can be of help > god bless > ashish > > > brijesh bagga <brij731 wrote: > Dear Ashish, > I was married again after a divorce on dec27 2005 and > the married life didnt started yet kindly tell me the details as how the > life will be when she land in canada from india and when we will be together > moreoverchildren and job prospect. The details are as follows > Brijesh 19 march 1966 16.10 new delhi india > Manjot 20th july 1970 6.25 amritsar india > > ashastro <ashastro wrote: > Hi, join the group free_analysys_ashish for free horoscope analysys > provide your date time and place of birth along with the choice of > analysys and/or free question. 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Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Mr Madhav ji, Based on prashna lagna her response is not to your liking. krishnan Madhav Abhyankar <madhavsemail wrote: Nameste all gurs, I have a question, last sunday I asked a girl if she would marry me. Fortunately or unfortunately she hasnt given me an answer yet! Now my impatience is getting better of me, but I just cannot go and ask her again. So I think the starts would help me! Please can some on tell me what will her answer be? Time when i asked her: 5 th March 2006, time: 7:30 pm, Chicago USA My birth time: 16th aug 81 5:51 pm, Delhi. I am looking forward to your answers. Thanking you in anticipation! ~Madhav On 9 Mar 2006 22:08:31 -0000, < > wrote: > > > There are 25 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Analysis for Parul Sharma > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 2. Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > "gowrisys" <gowrisys > 3. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 4. Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 5. Re: Re: Astrology of Jealousy > vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > 6. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > K Gopu <kgopu_24 > 7. Online Astrology Discussion Forum > "prosenjit" <sunsigns_forum > 8. Gurujans > "vikumar_77" <vikumar_77 > 9. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 10. Re: Gurujans(25591) > "Ayush Tripathi" <ayus_tripathi > 11. Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > "gowrisys" <gowrisys > 12. example of Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "miss_astro19" <miss_astro19 > 13. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd > 14. Re: POLL: Wow! Is dowry still around? > "Tanvir" <ultimate > 15. New file uploaded to > > 16. Re: Gurujans(25591) > "vikumar_77" <vikumar_77 > 17. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 > 18. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 19. example of Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 20. Re: POLL: Wow! Is dowry still around? > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 21. Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 22. PIC: Vishnu-Garuda-Rahu-Moon together > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > 23. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd > 24. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 25. Re: Free horoscope analysys > brijesh bagga <brij731 > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:55:35 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Analysis for Parul Sharma > > Mr. Jain, > > This would not necessarily determine whether astrology is science or > not. Even Science and scientists have different opinions about > things and phenomena in science, particularly those that are not > fully known, all evidence is not in yet or Jury is out, as they say. > Weather sciences for instance are not perfect yet, and even areas in > math, physics, chemistry. > > I think the real problem is not whether astrology is science or not, > but whether it is investigated using the scientific method or not. > The latter is a demonstrable, verifiable (especially verifiable by > others and not just the primary proposer or proponent), and > reproducible etc (the yoga has to work in different hs repeatedly, > if not always). Truth be told, it is this rigour that is missing in > the way astrology is practised, researched and taught. > > Don't want to start another thread on this, but thought I should > express my views and clear any air that may again have become > stiffling! > > RR > > > , akhil jain <robby_jn > wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Tripathy, > > > > Its quite interesting that how different approaches > > yeild different results. Though it may encourage a few > > to brand the astrology is not a science, but infact it > > also suggetss that there is still lot to learn & there > > are things which are still left untouched. > > > > Its great to have members using various types of > > techniques under the single roof in this group, it > > will always serve as a whip to life long students like > > me to strive for more & more knowledge. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Akhil Jain > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 2 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:57:44 -0000 > "gowrisys" <gowrisys > Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > > Dear Ashutosh, > > Thanks for taking the time to review. I think I gave the wrong place > of birth in my earlier message and I sincerely apologize for the > same. I guess his stress is catching on me !! > > Here are his correct details > > DOB March 13th 1965 > Place of Birth Mayavaram, TamilNadu > Time 01:45 PM (in the afternoon) > > Can you please help us with his chart. > > Thanks > Gowri > > , "astrologerashutosh" > <astrologerashutosh wrote: > > > > Dear Gowri, > > > > Your husband is in ketu mahadasha, not mercury, > with ketu-jupiter going on till 21st may'06. The next antardashas of > ket-sat and ketu-mer will be a bit better than the previous ones. > Ketu dasha began in june'01. > > > > He will have a small jump in career in next three months. > The next dasha of venus will be beneficial. A major jump will come > in that period only which begins on 26th june'08. > > > > Ask him to wear a gomedh in silver on middle finger. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Ashutosh > > > > > > [The services of this astrologer are free on the astrology group, > but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable] > > > > > > - > > gowrisys > > > > Thursday, 09 March, 2006 01:30 > > Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > > > > > > Sorry, Just realized I forgot to include time and place of birth. > > Here are the details. > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > Place Coimbatore TamilNadu > > Time 01:00 PM > > > > Thanks > > > > , "gowrisys" <gowrisys@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > My husband's DOB is March 13th 1965. > > > As I understand he is currently having Marcury Maha Dasha and > > > is in the last 2.5 years for saturn transit. > > > > > > My husband's career has been stagnated for the last 6 years or > so > > > with very little improvement. This has put a lot of mental > strain > > on > > > him. > > > I am inclined to think that it is because of the saturn > transit > > > (which started in 2000), since there is a coincidence. > However, we > > > are also not very sure if it's because of the Mercury Dasa, > since > > we > > > hear from my husband's parents that saturn is well placed in > his > > > chart. We have very limited knowledge on astrlogy and are > > wondering > > > if someone can help us with his chart. > > > > > > Specifically, we are interested in knowing which planet is > > blocking > > > his career progress and if there are any remedial measures for > the > > > same. Also when can he see things moving in the right > direction? > > > Otherwise financially we are pretty happy and don't have any > major > > > concerns. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology > software > > > > > > - > ----------- > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > b.. > > > > > > c.. Terms > of Service. > > > > > > - > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 3 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:00:02 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > Hi Rishi, > > Do you remember if this article on the web or in print? We have a > situation in my community group, where I live are affected and it > piqued my astrological curiosity. > > Thanks and best wishes, > > RR > > > , "rishi_2000in" > <rishi_2000in wrote: > > > > Shri Sanjay Rath has produced a good analysis of what are termed > > as 'shadripu', the six enemies of a person. > > They are termed as 'mad' reflected by ketu; 'Kaama' desires > > reflected by rahu; Krodh..anger, reflected by Mars; lobh..greed, > > reflected by Saturn; these enemies are termed as Tamasic by which > > harm is caused to the native as well as other persons. > > Eershya or jealousy is signified by mercury and moh or attachment > by > > venus; these are the rajasic ripus which affect more the native. > > It is an interesting analysis though rarely these operate on one > > level, shades of the others merge and converge. > > For consideration please. > > > > Rishi > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of nek} > as > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal-bud } > > as " > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { bud } > > are > > > these : > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the horoscope. > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either through > > aspect > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > One of my students recently asked: What is the astrological > > > > signature of jealousy? > > > > > > > > > > > > What an interesting angle! > > > > > > > > > > > > One would think -- malefics perhaps, the universal primary > > > > scapegoats in astrology, but jealousy is complex, even when it > > > pukes > > > > out so obviously that a child would not miss. > > > > > > > > I think it could be about possession and possessiveness. The > > > missing > > > > thing that one covets to possess could be a trait, a treasure > or > > > > even just a perceived situation where someone is missing what > > > > another might have or might seem to have! A basic area or > sense > > of > > > > inadequacy often not known to the conscious self. > > > > > > > > Thinking aloud here, no final dictum yet, folks, but I think > > > strong > > > > malefics do not produce jealousy -- they force, they activate > > the > > > > need to possess as opposed to vacuously desire and lament for > > what > > > > is not owned (jealousy) and perhaps we should find some > evidence > > > (or > > > > not) of this pondered anerata or signature in the charts of > > > > dictators and taskmasters in our personal collections of > charts. > > > > They have gone to the other end of the specture. They are not > in > > > > the 'want this' but "have this and want more!" state of mind. > > Even > > > > Saddam is railing at his assailants while in a "cage"! > > > > > > > > Weak benefics under malefic influence, sapped out of their > > purity, > > > > inner strength and their natural mien, now their intrinsic > > element > > > > would be to create desire but not the will to achieve through > > hard > > > > work or self-improvement. And that, understandably and > > presumably, > > > > can lead to jealousy. > > > > > > > > Jealously is not necessarily bad or deplorable, mind you! > > > > > > > > In younger persons, children, jealousy unless overpowering can > > > often > > > > be the drive to success -- as is sometimes observed in cases > of > > > > sibling rivalry. The 'weak' sibling eventually ends up being > > > > socially more successful, but still remains jealous! Again, > > cases > > > to > > > > the contrary are not unknown either. > > > > > > > > Jealousy never breeds happiness, though, but I could be wrong - > - > > > > other forum members might have illustrations and astrological > > > > examples of situations indicating otherwise, or even personal > > > > experiences to share. Maybe there might be those who have > > > > experienced, pondered upon this matter longer and may have > found > > > > other astrological answers for why jealousy afflicts the human > > > heart > > > > and eventually the soul. > > > > > > > > What possibly could be the remedy for this cancer, > astrological, > > > > tantric or just through personal efforts and successes perhaps. > > > > > > > > Sorry for rambling on, or so some may want to judge, but I > think > > > it > > > > is important to examine and eradicate this poison that > afflicts > > > > human minds and souls. > > > > > > > > The microphone is now turned over to the "group". Let the > > > > discussion, therapy and "remedy" begin. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 4 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:09:34 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > > I think you gave a different time too, earlier :-) > We can only wait and see if the reading comes true or not. If it > does, the time did not make a big difference, if not, maybe it did :- > ) Just to put your fears to rest, I almost always do not go 'just' > with the birthdata given on internet requests because many of these > are inaccurate anyway :-) > > These readings have to be done quickly so it is also not possible to > record everything that is going through the astrologer's mind - > particularly when the astrologer types like a tortoise :-( one of > the few skills I am determined to fix in my next birthtime -- > although dragon systems speech recognition is really coming close to > perfection! > > RR > > , "gowrisys" <gowrisys > wrote: > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > Thanks for taking the time to look at his chart. > > I am sorry, I think I gave the wrong place of birth > > Here are the correct details.. > > > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > Place Mayavaram TamilNadu > > Time Afternoon 01:45 PM > > > > I am amazed at some of the things you mentioned. Yes, you are right > > that workplace politics(friends who are really enemy at heart) did > > affect his career to a large extent in 1999-2000 period. He has > > become more spiritual in the last few years, but he has become > more > > paranoid and feels helpless about his career. We have been in US > for > > about 10 years now, but again you are right - he did get some > > recognition at work during March 2005 and that kept his spirits up > > for a little while. But he is still lagging behind his peers in > > terms of career progress and that makes him highly depressed. > > > > You mentioned that you see things changing for the better after > > August 2006, with respect to his career. Does it still holds true > > with his chart now (with the correct details I have furnished > > above). Also do you see any chances of him moving to a different > job > > etc. He has recently started reading Vishu Sahasranamam on > > Wednesday's. Is Mercury the reason behind his career stagnation? > > > > Again, thanks a lot for taking the time to review. > > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Gowri ji, > > > > > > I must be looking at the wrong chart because for that date, what > > you > > > write, dashawise is not matching. > > > > > > According to what I am seeing, the period that started in > October > > > 1999 represents the sixth house and hidden enemies (friends who > > are > > > really enemy at heart) and workplace politics have somewhat > > wrongly > > > maligned and weakened his position at work. Association of > period > > > lord with debilitated mercury in 10th house does not help > matters > > > either. If he has become more spiritual/religious/surrendering > in > > > spirit since that period or a few years afterwards, then that > > > explains the exchange of sorts that uccha sun has with its > > > dispositor (this is not per classics, by the way!). If this is > not > > > the case and he remains paranoid, beligerent, cynical and > > otherwise > > > negative, please do let me know for I am looking for feedback, > not > > > having closed my books and exercise books yet (maybe just maybe - > - > > > next semester, I will graduate!). > > > > > > During the period between August 2002 and September 2003 and > again > > > between august 2004 and September 2005 was there some change in > > the > > > situation or mental outlook of your husband? Seemed like hope > was > > on > > > horizon, even some sort of talk about his trying to go abroad or > a > > > long travel or more training? And the periods were in a sense > > > generally more calming to his spirit in some ways? Mind you this > > > would not be the case throughout the period but certain moments > or > > > days stand out? It is always about the intensity of experiences > > that > > > signal that planets are at work. > > > > > > In the latter period, was there some intervention from his > father, > > > or an earlier teacher? The advice was not gentle but firm and > even > > > stern? > > > > > > I am assuming that I am looking at the correct chart and you did > > not > > > inadvertantly shared the wrong data -- you are obviously under > > some > > > stress and duress judging by your postings -- and > > understandandably > > > so :-) > > > > > > If that is so, I see a change as soon as August 2006. If all > goes > > > well, there is a significant change, in the geographical > location > > > and earnings -- a break for sure. Again after early July, the > > > chances of this increase as earlier done good karmas and deeds > > kick > > > in. > > > > > > I see no need to get overzealous and interfere with the music of > > > the 'spheres' -- often they do not like that! > > > > > > Volunteering selflessly his service towards a charity or > > > organization that serves to help women, particularly single > > mothers > > > would be advisable. > > > > > > Fasting on wednesdays for the rest of his working life or even > > > longer would not hurt. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , "gowrisys" <gowrisys@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sorry, Just realized I forgot to include time and place of > birth. > > > > Here are the details. > > > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > > > Place Coimbatore TamilNadu > > > > Time 01:00 PM > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > , "gowrisys" > <gowrisys@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > My husband's DOB is March 13th 1965. > > > > > As I understand he is currently having Marcury Maha Dasha and > > > > > is in the last 2.5 years for saturn transit. > > > > > > > > > > My husband's career has been stagnated for the last 6 years > or > > > so > > > > > with very little improvement. This has put a lot of mental > > > strain > > > > on > > > > > him. > > > > > I am inclined to think that it is because of the saturn > > transit > > > > > (which started in 2000), since there is a coincidence. > > However, > > > we > > > > > are also not very sure if it's because of the Mercury Dasa, > > > since > > > > we > > > > > hear from my husband's parents that saturn is well placed in > > his > > > > > chart. We have very limited knowledge on astrlogy and are > > > > wondering > > > > > if someone can help us with his chart. > > > > > > > > > > Specifically, we are interested in knowing which planet is > > > > blocking > > > > > his career progress and if there are any remedial measures > for > > > the > > > > > same. Also when can he see things moving in the right > > direction? > > > > > Otherwise financially we are pretty happy and don't have any > > > major > > > > > concerns. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 5 > Thu, 9 Mar 2006 06:12:25 -0800 (PST) > vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > Re: Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > Rishi ji, > I would like to volunteer for purpose of practical analysis.can I send my > data to your personal mail please > regards > krishnan > > rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in wrote: > Let me add that this is in consonance with RRji's observation that > pure malefics do more than promote jealousy and jealousy per se is > not bad. Mercury in conjunction with malefics can therefore be a > good way of understanding jealousy. > Venus can be a good karaka for understanding possesiveness.... > > rishi > > > , "rishi_2000in" > <rishi_2000in wrote: > > > > Shri Sanjay Rath has produced a good analysis of what are termed > > as 'shadripu', the six enemies of a person. > > They are termed as 'mad' reflected by ketu; 'Kaama' desires > > reflected by rahu; Krodh..anger, reflected by Mars; lobh..greed, > > reflected by Saturn; these enemies are termed as Tamasic by which > > harm is caused to the native as well as other persons. > > Eershya or jealousy is signified by mercury and moh or attachment > by > > venus; these are the rajasic ripus which affect more the native. > > It is an interesting analysis though rarely these operate on one > > level, shades of the others merge and converge. > > For consideration please. > > > > Rishi > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of nek} > as > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal-bud } > > as " > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { bud } > > are > > > these : > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the horoscope. > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either through > > aspect > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > One of my students recently asked: What is the astrological > > > > signature of jealousy? > > > > > > > > > > > > What an interesting angle! > > > > > > > > > > > > One would think -- malefics perhaps, the universal primary > > > > scapegoats in astrology, but jealousy is complex, even when it > > > pukes > > > > out so obviously that a child would not miss. > > > > > > > > I think it could be about possession and possessiveness. The > > > missing > > > > thing that one covets to possess could be a trait, a treasure > or > > > > even just a perceived situation where someone is missing what > > > > another might have or might seem to have! A basic area or > sense > > of > > > > inadequacy often not known to the conscious self. > > > > > > > > Thinking aloud here, no final dictum yet, folks, but I think > > > strong > > > > malefics do not produce jealousy -- they force, they activate > > the > > > > need to possess as opposed to vacuously desire and lament for > > what > > > > is not owned (jealousy) and perhaps we should find some > evidence > > > (or > > > > not) of this pondered anerata or signature in the charts of > > > > dictators and taskmasters in our personal collections of > charts. > > > > They have gone to the other end of the specture. They are not > in > > > > the 'want this' but "have this and want more!" state of mind. > > Even > > > > Saddam is railing at his assailants while in a "cage"! > > > > > > > > Weak benefics under malefic influence, sapped out of their > > purity, > > > > inner strength and their natural mien, now their intrinsic > > element > > > > would be to create desire but not the will to achieve through > > hard > > > > work or self-improvement. And that, understandably and > > presumably, > > > > can lead to jealousy. > > > > > > > > Jealously is not necessarily bad or deplorable, mind you! > > > > > > > > In younger persons, children, jealousy unless overpowering can > > > often > > > > be the drive to success -- as is sometimes observed in cases > of > > > > sibling rivalry. The 'weak' sibling eventually ends up being > > > > socially more successful, but still remains jealous! Again, > > cases > > > to > > > > the contrary are not unknown either. > > > > > > > > Jealousy never breeds happiness, though, but I could be wrong - > - > > > > other forum members might have illustrations and astrological > > > > examples of situations indicating otherwise, or even personal > > > > experiences to share. Maybe there might be those who have > > > > experienced, pondered upon this matter longer and may have > found > > > > other astrological answers for why jealousy afflicts the human > > > heart > > > > and eventually the soul. > > > > > > > > What possibly could be the remedy for this cancer, > astrological, > > > > tantric or just through personal efforts and successes perhaps. > > > > > > > > Sorry for rambling on, or so some may want to judge, but I > think > > > it > > > > is important to examine and eradicate this poison that > afflicts > > > > human minds and souls. > > > > > > > > The microphone is now turned over to the "group". Let the > > > > discussion, therapy and "remedy" begin. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brings words and photos together (easily) with > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail. > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 6 > Thu, 9 Mar 2006 06:46:01 -0800 (PST) > K Gopu <kgopu_24 > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > dear sir, > can we say that the feeling of jealousy is controlled > by the thoughts in the mind. astrologically mind is > more controlled by moon ( i am subjected to > correction) so if moon is afflicted or in association > with malefics or placement of moon or aspects to moon > by malefics may lead to intense jealous feelings. I > have observed that people with this jealous nature do > land up with a bad health. Once again 6th and 12th > house comes to play. Individuals with consistent > jealous feelings are the ones where astrological study > has to be done. Otherwise it is part of a normal human > behaviour to be jealous in a very subtle manner, maybe > it may be transient feeling. It is probably an inbuilt > behaviour of every individual who lives in this > material world. > > Let us overcome jealous feelings by diverting our > thoughts to God and trying to help the needy. > > May god bless all of us. > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 7 > Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:04:46 +0530 > "prosenjit" <sunsigns_forum > Online Astrology Discussion Forum > > Hello, > > Please come and join us in discussions on Western as well as Vedic > Astrology. Create your free astrology blog and more... > > Some of the recent interesting topics on the board: > > http://www.sunsigns.org/viewtopic.php?t=6394 << Morton explains karmic > tasks in one's lifetime for Abhishek by a Chalean technique. > http://www.sunsigns.org/viewtopic.php?t=6295 << An animated discussion > about Tropical astrology Vs. Sidereal Astrology > http://www.sunsigns.org/viewtopic.php?t=6270 << A discussion on > Nakshatras(Constellations) in Vedic Astrology > http://www.sunsigns.org/viewtopic.php?t=2539 << Members talk about Horary > Vs. Traditional Astrology > http://www.sunsigns.org/viewtopic.php?t=6455 << Vishwas and others talk > about the signs related to sun signs > http://www.sunsigns.org/viewtopic.php?t=6568 << Virinchi explains the > positive effects of Rudraksh > > and hundreds of other topics and discussion to share and discuss your > views on. > > Thanks, > Prosenjit > > www.sunsigns.org > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 8 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:08:53 -0000 > "vikumar_77" <vikumar_77 > Gurujans > > Kindly help. My wife is a handicap. On her pressure Iam trying a > insurance job for her. Will she get, when. Any remedy that sge gets > well. Her birth date is 14-9-1980 time 4.22 am, Gurdaspur. > > Thanks in advance > > Vinod kumar > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 9 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:13:09 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > Dear Gopu ji, > > Absolutely! When we begin exploring something like this, it is best > to use clear black and white cases with intense jealousy etc, before > testing too many subtle or fleeting instances of jealousy which can > only confuse such a study. Later, as we begin to discern certain > astrosignatures finer points can get added. That is the best > strategy, certainly. > > However, getting back to what you wrote, I think you have something > good there! Moon certainly is associated with the emotional makeup > of a person and jealousy is definitely closely associated with > emotions (moon) than perhaps with reasoning (mercury). However, the > treatment for this soul-eating disorder of the human experience > could come through talk-therapy and self-analysis (mercury) and > sometimes professional help may also be required. The weaker the > moon is or otherwise afflicted (paksha, malefics, in certain signs > which might make it more vulnerable etc), one would tend to think > that the individual may harbour jealousy. > > Mind you, it has to be several factors that (as I earlier mentioned > time and again) have to be taken into account, but since we are only > exploring here we can analyse one factor after another. Rishi > indicated certain facets, you mentioned another. This is how > astrology research and exploration builds up. There are no magical > or make or break situations that would fit in all charts. One self- > admitted individual who is very bright as far as I can tell has > scorpio moon rising, for instance. Immediately one should begin > asking questions about sun, mars, for starters -- which will define > the true state of strength of such a moon. Then the secondary rulers > also need to be considered and other malefics and benefics. Then all > of this needs to be compared with charts where scorpio moons have > little support. Kemadruma scorpio moons for instance, although even > there one must be cautious because there could be strong nakshatra > sambandhas or in other vargas which could nullify the 'loneliness' > of such a moon. > > Just sharing some thoughts with you, on research. > > Staying anchored in divine thoughts and on God is good advice too -- > and gets easier as other options become limited, as one progresses > in life. > > RR > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > > > dear sir, > > can we say that the feeling of jealousy is controlled > > by the thoughts in the mind. astrologically mind is > > more controlled by moon ( i am subjected to > > correction) so if moon is afflicted or in association > > with malefics or placement of moon or aspects to moon > > by malefics may lead to intense jealous feelings. I > > have observed that people with this jealous nature do > > land up with a bad health. Once again 6th and 12th > > house comes to play. Individuals with consistent > > jealous feelings are the ones where astrological study > > has to be done. Otherwise it is part of a normal human > > behaviour to be jealous in a very subtle manner, maybe > > it may be transient feeling. It is probably an inbuilt > > behaviour of every individual who lives in this > > material world. > > > > Let us overcome jealous feelings by diverting our > > thoughts to God and trying to help the needy. > > > > May god bless all of us. > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 10 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:46:22 -0000 > "Ayush Tripathi" <ayus_tripathi > Re: Gurujans(25591) > > Dear Vinod, > > Your wife's Birth Chart is very clear and easy to read. Your Q. > regarding her job is correct. Your wife became a handicap in the Ist > fortnight of May 2001 as an aftereffect of severe typhoid. Right! > > She will definitely get Insurance job in December, 2006 and she will > get cured of her present ailment in the IInd half of year 2014 > (Shani-Rahu-Guru period). She should wear a Yellow Saphire > (Pukhraz) in the First finger of left hand on a Thursday morning. > > Best wishes, > > tripathi., "vikumar_77" > <vikumar_77 wrote: > > > > Kindly help. My wife is a handicap. On her pressure Iam trying a > > insurance job for her. Will she get, when. Any remedy that sge > gets > > well. Her birth date is 14-9-1980 time 4.22 am, Gurdaspur. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Vinod kumar > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 11 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:12:21 -0000 > "gowrisys" <gowrisys > Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > > Dear RR ji, > > Thanks. Just curious, is he is going through Mercury Maha Dasha > as per his correct birth details. > > Thanks > Gowri > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb > wrote: > > > > I think you gave a different time too, earlier :-) > > We can only wait and see if the reading comes true or not. If it > > does, the time did not make a big difference, if not, maybe it > did :- > > ) Just to put your fears to rest, I almost always do not go 'just' > > with the birthdata given on internet requests because many of > these > > are inaccurate anyway :-) > > > > These readings have to be done quickly so it is also not possible > to > > record everything that is going through the astrologer's mind - > > particularly when the astrologer types like a tortoise :-( one of > > the few skills I am determined to fix in my next birthtime -- > > although dragon systems speech recognition is really coming close > to > > perfection! > > > > RR > > > > , "gowrisys" <gowrisys@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > > > Thanks for taking the time to look at his chart. > > > I am sorry, I think I gave the wrong place of birth > > > Here are the correct details.. > > > > > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > > Place Mayavaram TamilNadu > > > Time Afternoon 01:45 PM > > > > > > I am amazed at some of the things you mentioned. Yes, you are > right > > > that workplace politics(friends who are really enemy at heart) > did > > > affect his career to a large extent in 1999-2000 period. He has > > > become more spiritual in the last few years, but he has become > > more > > > paranoid and feels helpless about his career. We have been in US > > for > > > about 10 years now, but again you are right - he did get some > > > recognition at work during March 2005 and that kept his spirits > up > > > for a little while. But he is still lagging behind his peers in > > > terms of career progress and that makes him highly depressed. > > > > > > You mentioned that you see things changing for the better after > > > August 2006, with respect to his career. Does it still holds > true > > > with his chart now (with the correct details I have furnished > > > above). Also do you see any chances of him moving to a different > > job > > > etc. He has recently started reading Vishu Sahasranamam on > > > Wednesday's. Is Mercury the reason behind his career stagnation? > > > > > > Again, thanks a lot for taking the time to review. > > > > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Gowri ji, > > > > > > > > I must be looking at the wrong chart because for that date, > what > > > you > > > > write, dashawise is not matching. > > > > > > > > According to what I am seeing, the period that started in > > October > > > > 1999 represents the sixth house and hidden enemies (friends > who > > > are > > > > really enemy at heart) and workplace politics have somewhat > > > wrongly > > > > maligned and weakened his position at work. Association of > > period > > > > lord with debilitated mercury in 10th house does not help > > matters > > > > either. If he has become more spiritual/religious/surrendering > > in > > > > spirit since that period or a few years afterwards, then that > > > > explains the exchange of sorts that uccha sun has with its > > > > dispositor (this is not per classics, by the way!). If this is > > not > > > > the case and he remains paranoid, beligerent, cynical and > > > otherwise > > > > negative, please do let me know for I am looking for feedback, > > not > > > > having closed my books and exercise books yet (maybe just > maybe - > > - > > > > next semester, I will graduate!). > > > > > > > > During the period between August 2002 and September 2003 and > > again > > > > between august 2004 and September 2005 was there some change > in > > > the > > > > situation or mental outlook of your husband? Seemed like hope > > was > > > on > > > > horizon, even some sort of talk about his trying to go abroad > or > > a > > > > long travel or more training? And the periods were in a sense > > > > generally more calming to his spirit in some ways? Mind you > this > > > > would not be the case throughout the period but certain > moments > > or > > > > days stand out? It is always about the intensity of > experiences > > > that > > > > signal that planets are at work. > > > > > > > > In the latter period, was there some intervention from his > > father, > > > > or an earlier teacher? The advice was not gentle but firm and > > even > > > > stern? > > > > > > > > I am assuming that I am looking at the correct chart and you > did > > > not > > > > inadvertantly shared the wrong data -- you are obviously under > > > some > > > > stress and duress judging by your postings -- and > > > understandandably > > > > so :-) > > > > > > > > If that is so, I see a change as soon as August 2006. If all > > goes > > > > well, there is a significant change, in the geographical > > location > > > > and earnings -- a break for sure. Again after early July, the > > > > chances of this increase as earlier done good karmas and deeds > > > kick > > > > in. > > > > > > > > I see no need to get overzealous and interfere with the music > of > > > > the 'spheres' -- often they do not like that! > > > > > > > > Volunteering selflessly his service towards a charity or > > > > organization that serves to help women, particularly single > > > mothers > > > > would be advisable. > > > > > > > > Fasting on wednesdays for the rest of his working life or even > > > > longer would not hurt. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "gowrisys" > <gowrisys@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, Just realized I forgot to include time and place of > > birth. > > > > > Here are the details. > > > > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > > > > Place Coimbatore TamilNadu > > > > > Time 01:00 PM > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > , "gowrisys" > > <gowrisys@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband's DOB is March 13th 1965. > > > > > > As I understand he is currently having Marcury Maha Dasha > and > > > > > > is in the last 2.5 years for saturn transit. > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband's career has been stagnated for the last 6 > years > > or > > > > so > > > > > > with very little improvement. This has put a lot of mental > > > > strain > > > > > on > > > > > > him. > > > > > > I am inclined to think that it is because of the saturn > > > transit > > > > > > (which started in 2000), since there is a coincidence. > > > However, > > > > we > > > > > > are also not very sure if it's because of the Mercury > Dasa, > > > > since > > > > > we > > > > > > hear from my husband's parents that saturn is well placed > in > > > his > > > > > > chart. We have very limited knowledge on astrlogy and are > > > > > wondering > > > > > > if someone can help us with his chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Specifically, we are interested in knowing which planet is > > > > > blocking > > > > > > his career progress and if there are any remedial measures > > for > > > > the > > > > > > same. Also when can he see things moving in the right > > > direction? > > > > > > Otherwise financially we are pretty happy and don't have > any > > > > major > > > > > > concerns. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 12 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:24:34 -0000 > "miss_astro19" <miss_astro19 > example of Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > > dear members, wht away to furthur enhance this discussion than with > a living example of such behaviours. > > ive been posting details of a boy who is my cousin, now this boy > has a very jealous nature, he is very possesive, > he is sometimes, very positive but most of the times very negative, > sometimes too autocratic sometimes very democratic. he is a strange > psyco case, very insecure, very fearful, had many strange > inferirority complexes, tried to commit suicide many times, fell and > got decived in love thrice, but he is a genius, i 'm sure there are > few people when it comes to brain like him specially when it comes > to versatility, very hardworking but seldom got results of his hard > work. > > we can discuss after having his chart analysed all factors leading > to jealosy in extremes in humans. > > > dob--- 26/11/1981 > tob--- 16:08 > pob--- ajmer > > > looking forward to worthy discussions. > > ann > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > > > dear sir, > > can we say that the feeling of jealousy is controlled > > by the thoughts in the mind. astrologically mind is > > more controlled by moon ( i am subjected to > > correction) so if moon is afflicted or in association > > with malefics or placement of moon or aspects to moon > > by malefics may lead to intense jealous feelings. I > > have observed that people with this jealous nature do > > land up with a bad health. Once again 6th and 12th > > house comes to play. Individuals with consistent > > jealous feelings are the ones where astrological study > > has to be done. Otherwise it is part of a normal human > > behaviour to be jealous in a very subtle manner, maybe > > it may be transient feeling. It is probably an inbuilt > > behaviour of every individual who lives in this > > material world. > > > > Let us overcome jealous feelings by diverting our > > thoughts to God and trying to help the needy. > > > > May god bless all of us. > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 13 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:29:18 -0000 > "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > Respected Rohini ji, > > There is a concept of `masnui grah' in lal Kitab. If we mix two > colours a third one is formed , similarly when two planets meet or > have `yuti' they form a third artificial planet { masnui grah} or > the other way round , meaning every planet is composed of two > element. Mangal-bud is composed of Sun + Saturn or the other way > round Sun + Saturn are the constituents of mangal-bud. > How venus placed in the 9th house acts like a mangal-bud has been > beautifully explained by Dr.Bhooshanpriy in one of the articles in > file section of his group' lalkitabremedies'. If you are interested > in knowing more about it you can read it. > > lalkitabremedies/ > > Among so many other things , mangal bud also represents jealousy. > Whenever I have been specifically asked about jealousy , and when I > looked , I have invariably found the involvement of mangal-bud. I > don't remember exactly how many cases , may be four or five so far. > > With naman to all gurujan. > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb > wrote: > > > > Thanks for your input. One follow-up question. Why would mars > become > > bad (bud) if sun and saturn are joined or when venus is in 9th > house? > > Does the red book also state if these planets need to be in a > > certain house from mars or would the sun-saturn yuti can be in any > > house, for instance? > > > > I am especially interested in the sun-saturn combination. Also, > have > > you tested these tenets and found them working (none, some, all?). > > Your response would be of great help to practical astrologers and > > students of jyotish. > > > > RR > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of nek} > as > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal-bud } > > as " > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { bud } > > are > > > these : > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the horoscope. > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either through > > aspect > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 14 > Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:03:51 +0600 > "Tanvir" <ultimate > Re: POLL: Wow! Is dowry still around? > > Rohini Ji, Are you proposing to create a poll? Members are given the power > to create polls whenever they feel necessary. > > Not really sure about your post! > > Regards > Tanvir > > > > What cannot happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies > Where relief and solutions are found > > - > crystal pages > > Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:12 AM > POLL: Wow! Is dowry still around? > > > Is it, really? > > Tell us more -- no names please -- we do not want Tanvir to get in > trouble ;-) > > RR > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "" on the web. > > b.. > > > c.. Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 15 > 9 Mar 2006 18:20:46 -0000 > > New file uploaded to > > > Hello, > > This email message is a notification to let you know that > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the > group. > > File : /value.zip > Uploaded by : occult_wizard <occultwizard.tarun > Description : Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha values from year 1900 to 2010 can be > used at hora lite software > > You can access this file at the URL: > value.zip > > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: > http://help./help/us/groups/files > > Regards, > > occult_wizard <occultwizard.tarun > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 16 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:20:55 -0000 > "vikumar_77" <vikumar_77 > Re: Gurujans(25591) > > Tripathi ji > > You have pridicted the correct past. my wife was fully handicap on > 17 May, 2001. Iam surprised how you told. You have given v. > lengthy time of her cure. it will be v. difficult. I fully hope > that she will get insurance job in dec.,this year as you have > predicted. How many ratti pukhraz she should wear. Please tell. > > lot of regards, > > Vinod kumar, "Ayush > Tripathi" <ayus_tripathi wrote: > > > > Dear Vinod, > > > > Your wife's Birth Chart is very clear and easy to read. Your Q. > > regarding her job is correct. Your wife became a handicap in the > Ist > > fortnight of May 2001 as an aftereffect of severe typhoid. Right! > > > > She will definitely get Insurance job in December, 2006 and she > will > > get cured of her present ailment in the IInd half of year 2014 > > (Shani-Rahu-Guru period). She should wear a Yellow Saphire > > (Pukhraz) in the First finger of left hand on a Thursday morning. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > tripathi., "vikumar_77" > > <vikumar_77@> wrote: > > > > > > Kindly help. My wife is a handicap. On her pressure Iam trying > a > > > insurance job for her. Will she get, when. Any remedy that > sge > > gets > > > well. Her birth date is 14-9-1980 time 4.22 am, Gurdaspur. > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > Vinod kumar > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 17 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:29:13 -0000 > "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > dear varun ji > > it is nice knowing your knowledge in lalkitab which i also studied > for its having remedies even for the poorest of the poor person. > since you are the only other member who writes on lalkitab in this > group, i put my understanding here. > > according to the redbook, in a chart where sun+saturn conjunction > takes place, not only mars becomes "bud", even rahu becomes "neech" > besides mercury becoming weak. however, these results are witnessed > only till the period of 36 years of age. please advise if my > understanding is correct or not. > > with best wishes > arjun > > , "varun_trvd" > <varun_trvd wrote: > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > There is a concept of `masnui grah' in lal Kitab. If we mix two > > colours a third one is formed , similarly when two planets meet or > > have `yuti' they form a third artificial planet { masnui grah} or > > the other way round , meaning every planet is composed of two > > element. Mangal-bud is composed of Sun + Saturn or the other way > > round Sun + Saturn are the constituents of mangal-bud. > > How venus placed in the 9th house acts like a mangal-bud has been > > beautifully explained by Dr.Bhooshanpriy in one of the articles in > > file section of his group' lalkitabremedies'. If you are > interested > > in knowing more about it you can read it. > > > > lalkitabremedies/ > > > > Among so many other things , mangal bud also represents jealousy. > > Whenever I have been specifically asked about jealousy , and when > I > > looked , I have invariably found the involvement of mangal-bud. I > > don't remember exactly how many cases , may be four or five so far. > > > > With naman to all gurujan. > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for your input. One follow-up question. Why would mars > > become > > > bad (bud) if sun and saturn are joined or when venus is in 9th > > house? > > > Does the red book also state if these planets need to be in a > > > certain house from mars or would the sun-saturn yuti can be in > any > > > house, for instance? > > > > > > I am especially interested in the sun-saturn combination. Also, > > have > > > you tested these tenets and found them working (none, some, > all?). > > > Your response would be of great help to practical astrologers > and > > > students of jyotish. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of nek} > > as > > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal- > bud } > > > as " > > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { > bud } > > > are > > > > these : > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the horoscope. > > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either through > > > aspect > > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 18 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:39:37 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > This is wonderful information and thanks for sharing! And, it is > such a great happenstance that you have already studied this topic a > bit. I do not want to impose upon you unnecessarily but if you care > to share some or all of those charts and take us through the steps > of deduction as per lal kitab, that would be greatly appreciated. > > I like the concept of planets within planets, kind of like the > colour spectrums. Hmm... > > Thanks > > RR > , "varun_trvd" > <varun_trvd wrote: > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > There is a concept of `masnui grah' in lal Kitab. If we mix two > > colours a third one is formed , similarly when two planets meet or > > have `yuti' they form a third artificial planet { masnui grah} or > > the other way round , meaning every planet is composed of two > > element. Mangal-bud is composed of Sun + Saturn or the other way > > round Sun + Saturn are the constituents of mangal-bud. > > How venus placed in the 9th house acts like a mangal-bud has been > > beautifully explained by Dr.Bhooshanpriy in one of the articles in > > file section of his group' lalkitabremedies'. If you are > interested > > in knowing more about it you can read it. > > > > lalkitabremedies/ > > > > Among so many other things , mangal bud also represents jealousy. > > Whenever I have been specifically asked about jealousy , and when > I > > looked , I have invariably found the involvement of mangal-bud. I > > don't remember exactly how many cases , may be four or five so far. > > > > With naman to all gurujan. > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for your input. One follow-up question. Why would mars > > become > > > bad (bud) if sun and saturn are joined or when venus is in 9th > > house? > > > Does the red book also state if these planets need to be in a > > > certain house from mars or would the sun-saturn yuti can be in > any > > > house, for instance? > > > > > > I am especially interested in the sun-saturn combination. Also, > > have > > > you tested these tenets and found them working (none, some, > all?). > > > Your response would be of great help to practical astrologers > and > > > students of jyotish. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of nek} > > as > > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal- > bud } > > > as " > > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { > bud } > > > are > > > > these : > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the horoscope. > > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either through > > > aspect > > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 19 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:42:29 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > example of Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > Ann -- if you happen to be reading this, thank you very much for the > data for your cousin. I am sure someone may volunteer to look at the > chart and enlighten us, or if that does not happen, as we get more > factors, we all can put our heads together and see if we can explain > based on the new information that is coming out -- particularly > interesting is Mr. Varun's posts on Lal Kitab (Red book -- I am > being presumptive in assuming that you do not speak hindustani, > hindi or urdu). > > Thanks for sharing, the only way to learn > > RR > > , "miss_astro19" > <miss_astro19 wrote: > > > > > > dear members, wht away to furthur enhance this discussion than > with > > a living example of such behaviours. > > > > ive been posting details of a boy who is my cousin, now this boy > > has a very jealous nature, he is very possesive, > > he is sometimes, very positive but most of the times very > negative, > > sometimes too autocratic sometimes very democratic. he is a > strange > > psyco case, very insecure, very fearful, had many strange > > inferirority complexes, tried to commit suicide many times, fell > and > > got decived in love thrice, but he is a genius, i 'm sure there > are > > few people when it comes to brain like him specially when it comes > > to versatility, very hardworking but seldom got results of his > hard > > work. > > > > we can discuss after having his chart analysed all factors > leading > > to jealosy in extremes in humans. > > > > > > dob--- 26/11/1981 > > tob--- 16:08 > > pob--- ajmer > > > > > > looking forward to worthy discussions. > > > > ann > > > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote: > > > > > > dear sir, > > > can we say that the feeling of jealousy is controlled > > > by the thoughts in the mind. astrologically mind is > > > more controlled by moon ( i am subjected to > > > correction) so if moon is afflicted or in association > > > with malefics or placement of moon or aspects to moon > > > by malefics may lead to intense jealous feelings. I > > > have observed that people with this jealous nature do > > > land up with a bad health. Once again 6th and 12th > > > house comes to play. Individuals with consistent > > > jealous feelings are the ones where astrological study > > > has to be done. Otherwise it is part of a normal human > > > behaviour to be jealous in a very subtle manner, maybe > > > it may be transient feeling. It is probably an inbuilt > > > behaviour of every individual who lives in this > > > material world. > > > > > > Let us overcome jealous feelings by diverting our > > > thoughts to God and trying to help the needy. > > > > > > May god bless all of us. > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 20 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:46:02 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: POLL: Wow! Is dowry still around? > > Rigid polls using poll options often leave a lot less options > to really understand something hence I opted to use the discussion > forum. I not only want to know if the scourge of dowry still exists, > and how much and then at some point perhaps a few examples of > instances where dowry was demanded vs dowry was declined could be > examined using astrology. > > I hope I am not breaking any of your rules by posting on your forum! > > RR > > > , "Tanvir" <ultimate > wrote: > > > > Rohini Ji, Are you proposing to create a poll? Members are given > the power to create polls whenever they feel necessary. > > > > Not really sure about your post! > > > > Regards > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > What cannot happen, can never happen. > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) > > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving > remedies > > Where relief and solutions are found > > > > - > > crystal pages > > > > Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:12 AM > > POLL: Wow! Is dowry still around? > > > > > > Is it, really? > > > > Tell us more -- no names please -- we do not want Tanvir to get > in > > trouble ;-) > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology > software > > > > > > - > ----------- > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > b.. > > > > > > c.. Terms > of Service. > > > > > > - > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 21 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:51:25 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > > No, it would be tail end of ketu or early venus depending on which > ayanamsha and dasha year duration the astrologer is using. > > RR > > , "gowrisys" <gowrisys > wrote: > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > Thanks. Just curious, is he is going through Mercury Maha Dasha > > as per his correct birth details. > > > > Thanks > > Gowri > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I think you gave a different time too, earlier :-) > > > We can only wait and see if the reading comes true or not. If it > > > does, the time did not make a big difference, if not, maybe it > > did :- > > > ) Just to put your fears to rest, I almost always do not > go 'just' > > > with the birthdata given on internet requests because many of > > these > > > are inaccurate anyway :-) > > > > > > These readings have to be done quickly so it is also not > possible > > to > > > record everything that is going through the astrologer's mind - > > > particularly when the astrologer types like a tortoise :-( one > of > > > the few skills I am determined to fix in my next birthtime -- > > > although dragon systems speech recognition is really coming > close > > to > > > perfection! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , "gowrisys" <gowrisys@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for taking the time to look at his chart. > > > > I am sorry, I think I gave the wrong place of birth > > > > Here are the correct details.. > > > > > > > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > > > Place Mayavaram TamilNadu > > > > Time Afternoon 01:45 PM > > > > > > > > I am amazed at some of the things you mentioned. Yes, you are > > right > > > > that workplace politics(friends who are really enemy at heart) > > did > > > > affect his career to a large extent in 1999-2000 period. He > has > > > > become more spiritual in the last few years, but he has become > > > more > > > > paranoid and feels helpless about his career. We have been in > US > > > for > > > > about 10 years now, but again you are right - he did get some > > > > recognition at work during March 2005 and that kept his > spirits > > up > > > > for a little while. But he is still lagging behind his peers > in > > > > terms of career progress and that makes him highly depressed. > > > > > > > > You mentioned that you see things changing for the better > after > > > > August 2006, with respect to his career. Does it still holds > > true > > > > with his chart now (with the correct details I have furnished > > > > above). Also do you see any chances of him moving to a > different > > > job > > > > etc. He has recently started reading Vishu Sahasranamam on > > > > Wednesday's. Is Mercury the reason behind his career > stagnation? > > > > > > > > Again, thanks a lot for taking the time to review. > > > > > > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" > <rrgb@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Gowri ji, > > > > > > > > > > I must be looking at the wrong chart because for that date, > > what > > > > you > > > > > write, dashawise is not matching. > > > > > > > > > > According to what I am seeing, the period that started in > > > October > > > > > 1999 represents the sixth house and hidden enemies (friends > > who > > > > are > > > > > really enemy at heart) and workplace politics have somewhat > > > > wrongly > > > > > maligned and weakened his position at work. Association of > > > period > > > > > lord with debilitated mercury in 10th house does not help > > > matters > > > > > either. If he has become more > spiritual/religious/surrendering > > > in > > > > > spirit since that period or a few years afterwards, then > that > > > > > explains the exchange of sorts that uccha sun has with its > > > > > dispositor (this is not per classics, by the way!). If this > is > > > not > > > > > the case and he remains paranoid, beligerent, cynical and > > > > otherwise > > > > > negative, please do let me know for I am looking for > feedback, > > > not > > > > > having closed my books and exercise books yet (maybe just > > maybe - > > > - > > > > > next semester, I will graduate!). > > > > > > > > > > During the period between August 2002 and September 2003 and > > > again > > > > > between august 2004 and September 2005 was there some change > > in > > > > the > > > > > situation or mental outlook of your husband? Seemed like > hope > > > was > > > > on > > > > > horizon, even some sort of talk about his trying to go > abroad > > or > > > a > > > > > long travel or more training? And the periods were in a > sense > > > > > generally more calming to his spirit in some ways? Mind you > > this > > > > > would not be the case throughout the period but certain > > moments > > > or > > > > > days stand out? It is always about the intensity of > > experiences > > > > that > > > > > signal that planets are at work. > > > > > > > > > > In the latter period, was there some intervention from his > > > father, > > > > > or an earlier teacher? The advice was not gentle but firm > and > > > even > > > > > stern? > > > > > > > > > > I am assuming that I am looking at the correct chart and you > > did > > > > not > > > > > inadvertantly shared the wrong data -- you are obviously > under > > > > some > > > > > stress and duress judging by your postings -- and > > > > understandandably > > > > > so :-) > > > > > > > > > > If that is so, I see a change as soon as August 2006. If all > > > goes > > > > > well, there is a significant change, in the geographical > > > location > > > > > and earnings -- a break for sure. Again after early July, > the > > > > > chances of this increase as earlier done good karmas and > deeds > > > > kick > > > > > in. > > > > > > > > > > I see no need to get overzealous and interfere with the > music > > of > > > > > the 'spheres' -- often they do not like that! > > > > > > > > > > Volunteering selflessly his service towards a charity or > > > > > organization that serves to help women, particularly single > > > > mothers > > > > > would be advisable. > > > > > > > > > > Fasting on wednesdays for the rest of his working life or > even > > > > > longer would not hurt. > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , "gowrisys" > > <gowrisys@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, Just realized I forgot to include time and place of > > > birth. > > > > > > Here are the details. > > > > > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > > > > > Place Coimbatore TamilNadu > > > > > > Time 01:00 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > , "gowrisys" > > > <gowrisys@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband's DOB is March 13th 1965. > > > > > > > As I understand he is currently having Marcury Maha > Dasha > > and > > > > > > > is in the last 2.5 years for saturn transit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband's career has been stagnated for the last 6 > > years > > > or > > > > > so > > > > > > > with very little improvement. This has put a lot of > mental > > > > > strain > > > > > > on > > > > > > > him. > > > > > > > I am inclined to think that it is because of the saturn > > > > transit > > > > > > > (which started in 2000), since there is a coincidence. > > > > However, > > > > > we > > > > > > > are also not very sure if it's because of the Mercury > > Dasa, > > > > > since > > > > > > we > > > > > > > hear from my husband's parents that saturn is well > placed > > in > > > > his > > > > > > > chart. We have very limited knowledge on astrlogy and > are > > > > > > wondering > > > > > > > if someone can help us with his chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Specifically, we are interested in knowing which planet > is > > > > > > blocking > > > > > > > his career progress and if there are any remedial > measures > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > same. Also when can he see things moving in the right > > > > direction? > > > > > > > Otherwise financially we are pretty happy and don't have > > any > > > > > major > > > > > > > concerns. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 22 > Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:54:56 +0000 (GMT) > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > PIC: Vishnu-Garuda-Rahu-Moon together > > PICTURE: Vishnu-Garuda-Rahu-Moon together set with Tri-ratna, flawless > cat's eye, diamond and hessonite, in 21k gold. > > sacred-objects/ <---Svagatam!!! > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 23 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:30:48 -0000 > "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > Respected Rohini ji, > > I am not a professional astrologer, it is just a hobby. I do not > get to study many charts. But next time you come across a chart > with a malefic mars { mangal-bud } just assess the native for > jealousy. If I happen to come across one , I would love to share > with you. > > With naman to all gurujan, > > Varun Trivedi > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb > wrote: > > > > This is wonderful information and thanks for sharing! And, it is > > such a great happenstance that you have already studied this topic > a > > bit. I do not want to impose upon you unnecessarily but if you > care > > to share some or all of those charts and take us through the steps > > of deduction as per lal kitab, that would be greatly appreciated. > > > > I like the concept of planets within planets, kind of like the > > colour spectrums. Hmm... > > > > Thanks > > > > RR > > , "varun_trvd" > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > There is a concept of `masnui grah' in lal Kitab. If we mix two > > > colours a third one is formed , similarly when two planets meet > or > > > have `yuti' they form a third artificial planet { masnui grah} > or > > > the other way round , meaning every planet is composed of two > > > element. Mangal-bud is composed of Sun + Saturn or the other way > > > round Sun + Saturn are the constituents of mangal-bud. > > > How venus placed in the 9th house acts like a mangal-bud has > been > > > beautifully explained by Dr.Bhooshanpriy in one of the articles > in > > > file section of his group' lalkitabremedies'. If you are > > interested > > > in knowing more about it you can read it. > > > > > > lalkitabremedies/ > > > > > > Among so many other things , mangal bud also represents > jealousy. > > > Whenever I have been specifically asked about jealousy , and > when > > I > > > looked , I have invariably found the involvement of mangal-bud. > I > > > don't remember exactly how many cases , may be four or five so > far. > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan. > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input. One follow-up question. Why would mars > > > become > > > > bad (bud) if sun and saturn are joined or when venus is in 9th > > > house? > > > > Does the red book also state if these planets need to be in a > > > > certain house from mars or would the sun-saturn yuti can be in > > any > > > > house, for instance? > > > > > > > > I am especially interested in the sun-saturn combination. > Also, > > > have > > > > you tested these tenets and found them working (none, some, > > all?). > > > > Your response would be of great help to practical astrologers > > and > > > > students of jyotish. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of > nek} > > > as > > > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal- > > bud } > > > > as " > > > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { > > bud } > > > > are > > > > > these : > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the horoscope. > > > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either > through > > > > aspect > > > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 24 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 21:56:43 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > In fact most of us on the forum are not professional. So you are in > like company :-) > That would be great if you could discuss, when you have time. And, > if you run into the charts you mentioned you saw earlier with the > lal kitab combinations, if you can find the time, please do post a > few words about those with birthdata etc. > > dhanyavaad > > RR > > , "varun_trvd" > <varun_trvd wrote: > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > I am not a professional astrologer, it is just a hobby. I do not > > get to study many charts. But next time you come across a chart > > with a malefic mars { mangal-bud } just assess the native for > > jealousy. If I happen to come across one , I would love to share > > with you. > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > This is wonderful information and thanks for sharing! And, it is > > > such a great happenstance that you have already studied this > topic > > a > > > bit. I do not want to impose upon you unnecessarily but if you > > care > > > to share some or all of those charts and take us through the > steps > > > of deduction as per lal kitab, that would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > I like the concept of planets within planets, kind of like the > > > colour spectrums. Hmm... > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > RR > > > , "varun_trvd" > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > There is a concept of `masnui grah' in lal Kitab. If we mix > two > > > > colours a third one is formed , similarly when two planets > meet > > or > > > > have `yuti' they form a third artificial planet { masnui grah} > > or > > > > the other way round , meaning every planet is composed of two > > > > element. Mangal-bud is composed of Sun + Saturn or the other > way > > > > round Sun + Saturn are the constituents of mangal-bud. > > > > How venus placed in the 9th house acts like a mangal-bud has > > been > > > > beautifully explained by Dr.Bhooshanpriy in one of the > articles > > in > > > > file section of his group' lalkitabremedies'. If you are > > > interested > > > > in knowing more about it you can read it. > > > > > > > > lalkitabremedies/ > > > > > > > > Among so many other things , mangal bud also represents > > jealousy. > > > > Whenever I have been specifically asked about jealousy , and > > when > > > I > > > > looked , I have invariably found the involvement of mangal- > bud. > > I > > > > don't remember exactly how many cases , may be four or five so > > far. > > > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan. > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" > <rrgb@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input. One follow-up question. Why would > mars > > > > become > > > > > bad (bud) if sun and saturn are joined or when venus is in > 9th > > > > house? > > > > > Does the red book also state if these planets need to be in > a > > > > > certain house from mars or would the sun-saturn yuti can be > in > > > any > > > > > house, for instance? > > > > > > > > > > I am especially interested in the sun-saturn combination. > > Also, > > > > have > > > > > you tested these tenets and found them working (none, some, > > > all?). > > > > > Your response would be of great help to practical > astrologers > > > and > > > > > students of jyotish. > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of > > nek} > > > > as > > > > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal- > > > bud } > > > > > as " > > > > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { > > > bud } > > > > > are > > > > > > these : > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the > horoscope. > > > > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either > > through > > > > > aspect > > > > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 25 > Thu, 9 Mar 2006 14:08:28 -0800 (PST) > brijesh bagga <brij731 > Re: Free horoscope analysys > > Dear Ashish, > Yes it is a big blunder the bhakoot dosha as she > landed in canada on 11dec and on 14th dec she madew some baseless arguments > and till this date i dont talk to her frequently. Thanks > Brij > > Ashish Astrologer <ashastro wrote: > > dear brijesh > 14-09-05 to mar-06 you may change your job as well as the place currently > liveing in > god bless > ashish > > > brijesh bagga <brij731 wrote: > Dear Ashish, > Thanks for your reply and we were just married on dec27 > 2004 but never had any honeymoon as the star of marriage was down at the > time of marriage so someone suggested that you can perform only marriage. So > may be in few months she will land in canada. Please do have a look as i am > planning for a job change when can i get it. > > Brijesh > > Ashish Astrologer <ashastro wrote: > dear brijesh > see i will tell you point blank why because it is always good to tell the > truth > 1.) till the time you are abroad i dont think you will face problem with > your job or finential needs > you might have faced this before that your marraige will defintely cause > you troubles because you will have to spend > more then what you wish > well you should have counselted someone before marraige because the bhakut > match decides the compatibility between the > bride and groom so there will be a few hbits of your and your wife which > will be a cause of misunderstnding > so i suggest you to be more understanding this time becuse see i dont > think divorce is only solution to every thing > if you decide to adjust a little it can help you my be tell me when your > married life start be specific about your problems > i will see how i can be of help > god bless > ashish > > > brijesh bagga <brij731 wrote: > Dear Ashish, > I was married again after a divorce on dec27 2005 and > the married life didnt started yet kindly tell me the details as how the > life will be when she land in canada from india and when we will be together > moreoverchildren and job prospect. The details are as follows > Brijesh 19 march 1966 16.10 new delhi india > Manjot 20th july 1970 6.25 amritsar india > > ashastro <ashastro wrote: > Hi, join the group free_analysys_ashish for free horoscope analysys > provide your date time and place of birth along with the choice of > analysys and/or free question. 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Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Dear Madhav, She will say neither a 'yes' nor a 'no' clearly. Her answer will be so dimplomatic that she will be able to twist the meaning of her words as and when she desires. Regards, Ashutosh [The services of this astrologer are free on the astrology group, but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable] - Madhav Abhyankar Friday, 10 March, 2006 07:19 Re: Digest Number 1549 Nameste all gurs, I have a question, last sunday I asked a girl if she would marry me. Fortunately or unfortunately she hasnt given me an answer yet! Now my impatience is getting better of me, but I just cannot go and ask her again. So I think the starts would help me! Please can some on tell me what will her answer be? Time when i asked her: 5 th March 2006, time: 7:30 pm, Chicago USA My birth time: 16th aug 81 5:51 pm, Delhi. I am looking forward to your answers. Thanking you in anticipation! ~Madhav On 9 Mar 2006 22:08:31 -0000, < > wrote: > > > There are 25 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Analysis for Parul Sharma > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 2. Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > "gowrisys" <gowrisys > 3. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 4. Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 5. Re: Re: Astrology of Jealousy > vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > 6. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > K Gopu <kgopu_24 > 7. Online Astrology Discussion Forum > "prosenjit" <sunsigns_forum > 8. Gurujans > "vikumar_77" <vikumar_77 > 9. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 10. Re: Gurujans(25591) > "Ayush Tripathi" <ayus_tripathi > 11. Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > "gowrisys" <gowrisys > 12. example of Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "miss_astro19" <miss_astro19 > 13. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd > 14. Re: POLL: Wow! Is dowry still around? > "Tanvir" <ultimate > 15. New file uploaded to > > 16. Re: Gurujans(25591) > "vikumar_77" <vikumar_77 > 17. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 > 18. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 19. example of Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 20. Re: POLL: Wow! Is dowry still around? > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 21. Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 22. PIC: Vishnu-Garuda-Rahu-Moon together > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > 23. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd > 24. Re: Astrology of Jealousy > "crystal pages" <rrgb > 25. Re: Free horoscope analysys > brijesh bagga <brij731 > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:55:35 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Analysis for Parul Sharma > > Mr. Jain, > > This would not necessarily determine whether astrology is science or > not. Even Science and scientists have different opinions about > things and phenomena in science, particularly those that are not > fully known, all evidence is not in yet or Jury is out, as they say. > Weather sciences for instance are not perfect yet, and even areas in > math, physics, chemistry. > > I think the real problem is not whether astrology is science or not, > but whether it is investigated using the scientific method or not. > The latter is a demonstrable, verifiable (especially verifiable by > others and not just the primary proposer or proponent), and > reproducible etc (the yoga has to work in different hs repeatedly, > if not always). Truth be told, it is this rigour that is missing in > the way astrology is practised, researched and taught. > > Don't want to start another thread on this, but thought I should > express my views and clear any air that may again have become > stiffling! > > RR > > > , akhil jain <robby_jn > wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Tripathy, > > > > Its quite interesting that how different approaches > > yeild different results. Though it may encourage a few > > to brand the astrology is not a science, but infact it > > also suggetss that there is still lot to learn & there > > are things which are still left untouched. > > > > Its great to have members using various types of > > techniques under the single roof in this group, it > > will always serve as a whip to life long students like > > me to strive for more & more knowledge. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Akhil Jain > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 2 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:57:44 -0000 > "gowrisys" <gowrisys > Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > > Dear Ashutosh, > > Thanks for taking the time to review. I think I gave the wrong place > of birth in my earlier message and I sincerely apologize for the > same. I guess his stress is catching on me !! > > Here are his correct details > > DOB March 13th 1965 > Place of Birth Mayavaram, TamilNadu > Time 01:45 PM (in the afternoon) > > Can you please help us with his chart. > > Thanks > Gowri > > , "astrologerashutosh" > <astrologerashutosh wrote: > > > > Dear Gowri, > > > > Your husband is in ketu mahadasha, not mercury, > with ketu-jupiter going on till 21st may'06. The next antardashas of > ket-sat and ketu-mer will be a bit better than the previous ones. > Ketu dasha began in june'01. > > > > He will have a small jump in career in next three months. > The next dasha of venus will be beneficial. A major jump will come > in that period only which begins on 26th june'08. > > > > Ask him to wear a gomedh in silver on middle finger. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Ashutosh > > > > > > [The services of this astrologer are free on the astrology group, > but consultations on personal e-mail are chargeable] > > > > > > - > > gowrisys > > > > Thursday, 09 March, 2006 01:30 > > Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > > > > > > Sorry, Just realized I forgot to include time and place of birth. > > Here are the details. > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > Place Coimbatore TamilNadu > > Time 01:00 PM > > > > Thanks > > > > , "gowrisys" <gowrisys@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > My husband's DOB is March 13th 1965. > > > As I understand he is currently having Marcury Maha Dasha and > > > is in the last 2.5 years for saturn transit. > > > > > > My husband's career has been stagnated for the last 6 years or > so > > > with very little improvement. This has put a lot of mental > strain > > on > > > him. > > > I am inclined to think that it is because of the saturn > transit > > > (which started in 2000), since there is a coincidence. > However, we > > > are also not very sure if it's because of the Mercury Dasa, > since > > we > > > hear from my husband's parents that saturn is well placed in > his > > > chart. We have very limited knowledge on astrlogy and are > > wondering > > > if someone can help us with his chart. > > > > > > Specifically, we are interested in knowing which planet is > > blocking > > > his career progress and if there are any remedial measures for > the > > > same. Also when can he see things moving in the right > direction? > > > Otherwise financially we are pretty happy and don't have any > major > > > concerns. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology > software > > > > > > - > ----------- > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > b.. > > > > > > c.. Terms > of Service. > > > > > > - > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 3 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:00:02 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > Hi Rishi, > > Do you remember if this article on the web or in print? We have a > situation in my community group, where I live are affected and it > piqued my astrological curiosity. > > Thanks and best wishes, > > RR > > > , "rishi_2000in" > <rishi_2000in wrote: > > > > Shri Sanjay Rath has produced a good analysis of what are termed > > as 'shadripu', the six enemies of a person. > > They are termed as 'mad' reflected by ketu; 'Kaama' desires > > reflected by rahu; Krodh..anger, reflected by Mars; lobh..greed, > > reflected by Saturn; these enemies are termed as Tamasic by which > > harm is caused to the native as well as other persons. > > Eershya or jealousy is signified by mercury and moh or attachment > by > > venus; these are the rajasic ripus which affect more the native. > > It is an interesting analysis though rarely these operate on one > > level, shades of the others merge and converge. > > For consideration please. > > > > Rishi > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of nek} > as > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal-bud } > > as " > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { bud } > > are > > > these : > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the horoscope. > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either through > > aspect > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > One of my students recently asked: What is the astrological > > > > signature of jealousy? > > > > > > > > > > > > What an interesting angle! > > > > > > > > > > > > One would think -- malefics perhaps, the universal primary > > > > scapegoats in astrology, but jealousy is complex, even when it > > > pukes > > > > out so obviously that a child would not miss. > > > > > > > > I think it could be about possession and possessiveness. The > > > missing > > > > thing that one covets to possess could be a trait, a treasure > or > > > > even just a perceived situation where someone is missing what > > > > another might have or might seem to have! A basic area or > sense > > of > > > > inadequacy often not known to the conscious self. > > > > > > > > Thinking aloud here, no final dictum yet, folks, but I think > > > strong > > > > malefics do not produce jealousy -- they force, they activate > > the > > > > need to possess as opposed to vacuously desire and lament for > > what > > > > is not owned (jealousy) and perhaps we should find some > evidence > > > (or > > > > not) of this pondered anerata or signature in the charts of > > > > dictators and taskmasters in our personal collections of > charts. > > > > They have gone to the other end of the specture. They are not > in > > > > the 'want this' but "have this and want more!" state of mind. > > Even > > > > Saddam is railing at his assailants while in a "cage"! > > > > > > > > Weak benefics under malefic influence, sapped out of their > > purity, > > > > inner strength and their natural mien, now their intrinsic > > element > > > > would be to create desire but not the will to achieve through > > hard > > > > work or self-improvement. And that, understandably and > > presumably, > > > > can lead to jealousy. > > > > > > > > Jealously is not necessarily bad or deplorable, mind you! > > > > > > > > In younger persons, children, jealousy unless overpowering can > > > often > > > > be the drive to success -- as is sometimes observed in cases > of > > > > sibling rivalry. The 'weak' sibling eventually ends up being > > > > socially more successful, but still remains jealous! Again, > > cases > > > to > > > > the contrary are not unknown either. > > > > > > > > Jealousy never breeds happiness, though, but I could be wrong - > - > > > > other forum members might have illustrations and astrological > > > > examples of situations indicating otherwise, or even personal > > > > experiences to share. Maybe there might be those who have > > > > experienced, pondered upon this matter longer and may have > found > > > > other astrological answers for why jealousy afflicts the human > > > heart > > > > and eventually the soul. > > > > > > > > What possibly could be the remedy for this cancer, > astrological, > > > > tantric or just through personal efforts and successes perhaps. > > > > > > > > Sorry for rambling on, or so some may want to judge, but I > think > > > it > > > > is important to examine and eradicate this poison that > afflicts > > > > human minds and souls. > > > > > > > > The microphone is now turned over to the "group". Let the > > > > discussion, therapy and "remedy" begin. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 4 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:09:34 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > > I think you gave a different time too, earlier :-) > We can only wait and see if the reading comes true or not. If it > does, the time did not make a big difference, if not, maybe it did :- > ) Just to put your fears to rest, I almost always do not go 'just' > with the birthdata given on internet requests because many of these > are inaccurate anyway :-) > > These readings have to be done quickly so it is also not possible to > record everything that is going through the astrologer's mind - > particularly when the astrologer types like a tortoise :-( one of > the few skills I am determined to fix in my next birthtime -- > although dragon systems speech recognition is really coming close to > perfection! > > RR > > , "gowrisys" <gowrisys > wrote: > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > Thanks for taking the time to look at his chart. > > I am sorry, I think I gave the wrong place of birth > > Here are the correct details.. > > > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > Place Mayavaram TamilNadu > > Time Afternoon 01:45 PM > > > > I am amazed at some of the things you mentioned. Yes, you are right > > that workplace politics(friends who are really enemy at heart) did > > affect his career to a large extent in 1999-2000 period. He has > > become more spiritual in the last few years, but he has become > more > > paranoid and feels helpless about his career. We have been in US > for > > about 10 years now, but again you are right - he did get some > > recognition at work during March 2005 and that kept his spirits up > > for a little while. But he is still lagging behind his peers in > > terms of career progress and that makes him highly depressed. > > > > You mentioned that you see things changing for the better after > > August 2006, with respect to his career. Does it still holds true > > with his chart now (with the correct details I have furnished > > above). Also do you see any chances of him moving to a different > job > > etc. He has recently started reading Vishu Sahasranamam on > > Wednesday's. Is Mercury the reason behind his career stagnation? > > > > Again, thanks a lot for taking the time to review. > > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Gowri ji, > > > > > > I must be looking at the wrong chart because for that date, what > > you > > > write, dashawise is not matching. > > > > > > According to what I am seeing, the period that started in > October > > > 1999 represents the sixth house and hidden enemies (friends who > > are > > > really enemy at heart) and workplace politics have somewhat > > wrongly > > > maligned and weakened his position at work. Association of > period > > > lord with debilitated mercury in 10th house does not help > matters > > > either. If he has become more spiritual/religious/surrendering > in > > > spirit since that period or a few years afterwards, then that > > > explains the exchange of sorts that uccha sun has with its > > > dispositor (this is not per classics, by the way!). If this is > not > > > the case and he remains paranoid, beligerent, cynical and > > otherwise > > > negative, please do let me know for I am looking for feedback, > not > > > having closed my books and exercise books yet (maybe just maybe - > - > > > next semester, I will graduate!). > > > > > > During the period between August 2002 and September 2003 and > again > > > between august 2004 and September 2005 was there some change in > > the > > > situation or mental outlook of your husband? Seemed like hope > was > > on > > > horizon, even some sort of talk about his trying to go abroad or > a > > > long travel or more training? And the periods were in a sense > > > generally more calming to his spirit in some ways? Mind you this > > > would not be the case throughout the period but certain moments > or > > > days stand out? It is always about the intensity of experiences > > that > > > signal that planets are at work. > > > > > > In the latter period, was there some intervention from his > father, > > > or an earlier teacher? The advice was not gentle but firm and > even > > > stern? > > > > > > I am assuming that I am looking at the correct chart and you did > > not > > > inadvertantly shared the wrong data -- you are obviously under > > some > > > stress and duress judging by your postings -- and > > understandandably > > > so :-) > > > > > > If that is so, I see a change as soon as August 2006. If all > goes > > > well, there is a significant change, in the geographical > location > > > and earnings -- a break for sure. Again after early July, the > > > chances of this increase as earlier done good karmas and deeds > > kick > > > in. > > > > > > I see no need to get overzealous and interfere with the music of > > > the 'spheres' -- often they do not like that! > > > > > > Volunteering selflessly his service towards a charity or > > > organization that serves to help women, particularly single > > mothers > > > would be advisable. > > > > > > Fasting on wednesdays for the rest of his working life or even > > > longer would not hurt. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , "gowrisys" <gowrisys@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sorry, Just realized I forgot to include time and place of > birth. > > > > Here are the details. > > > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > > > Place Coimbatore TamilNadu > > > > Time 01:00 PM > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > , "gowrisys" > <gowrisys@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > My husband's DOB is March 13th 1965. > > > > > As I understand he is currently having Marcury Maha Dasha and > > > > > is in the last 2.5 years for saturn transit. > > > > > > > > > > My husband's career has been stagnated for the last 6 years > or > > > so > > > > > with very little improvement. This has put a lot of mental > > > strain > > > > on > > > > > him. > > > > > I am inclined to think that it is because of the saturn > > transit > > > > > (which started in 2000), since there is a coincidence. > > However, > > > we > > > > > are also not very sure if it's because of the Mercury Dasa, > > > since > > > > we > > > > > hear from my husband's parents that saturn is well placed in > > his > > > > > chart. We have very limited knowledge on astrlogy and are > > > > wondering > > > > > if someone can help us with his chart. > > > > > > > > > > Specifically, we are interested in knowing which planet is > > > > blocking > > > > > his career progress and if there are any remedial measures > for > > > the > > > > > same. Also when can he see things moving in the right > > direction? > > > > > Otherwise financially we are pretty happy and don't have any > > > major > > > > > concerns. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 5 > Thu, 9 Mar 2006 06:12:25 -0800 (PST) > vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > Re: Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > Rishi ji, > I would like to volunteer for purpose of practical analysis.can I send my > data to your personal mail please > regards > krishnan > > rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in wrote: > Let me add that this is in consonance with RRji's observation that > pure malefics do more than promote jealousy and jealousy per se is > not bad. Mercury in conjunction with malefics can therefore be a > good way of understanding jealousy. > Venus can be a good karaka for understanding possesiveness.... > > rishi > > > , "rishi_2000in" > <rishi_2000in wrote: > > > > Shri Sanjay Rath has produced a good analysis of what are termed > > as 'shadripu', the six enemies of a person. > > They are termed as 'mad' reflected by ketu; 'Kaama' desires > > reflected by rahu; Krodh..anger, reflected by Mars; lobh..greed, > > reflected by Saturn; these enemies are termed as Tamasic by which > > harm is caused to the native as well as other persons. > > Eershya or jealousy is signified by mercury and moh or attachment > by > > venus; these are the rajasic ripus which affect more the native. > > It is an interesting analysis though rarely these operate on one > > level, shades of the others merge and converge. > > For consideration please. > > > > Rishi > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of nek} > as > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal-bud } > > as " > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { bud } > > are > > > these : > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the horoscope. > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either through > > aspect > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > One of my students recently asked: What is the astrological > > > > signature of jealousy? > > > > > > > > > > > > What an interesting angle! > > > > > > > > > > > > One would think -- malefics perhaps, the universal primary > > > > scapegoats in astrology, but jealousy is complex, even when it > > > pukes > > > > out so obviously that a child would not miss. > > > > > > > > I think it could be about possession and possessiveness. The > > > missing > > > > thing that one covets to possess could be a trait, a treasure > or > > > > even just a perceived situation where someone is missing what > > > > another might have or might seem to have! A basic area or > sense > > of > > > > inadequacy often not known to the conscious self. > > > > > > > > Thinking aloud here, no final dictum yet, folks, but I think > > > strong > > > > malefics do not produce jealousy -- they force, they activate > > the > > > > need to possess as opposed to vacuously desire and lament for > > what > > > > is not owned (jealousy) and perhaps we should find some > evidence > > > (or > > > > not) of this pondered anerata or signature in the charts of > > > > dictators and taskmasters in our personal collections of > charts. > > > > They have gone to the other end of the specture. They are not > in > > > > the 'want this' but "have this and want more!" state of mind. > > Even > > > > Saddam is railing at his assailants while in a "cage"! > > > > > > > > Weak benefics under malefic influence, sapped out of their > > purity, > > > > inner strength and their natural mien, now their intrinsic > > element > > > > would be to create desire but not the will to achieve through > > hard > > > > work or self-improvement. And that, understandably and > > presumably, > > > > can lead to jealousy. > > > > > > > > Jealously is not necessarily bad or deplorable, mind you! > > > > > > > > In younger persons, children, jealousy unless overpowering can > > > often > > > > be the drive to success -- as is sometimes observed in cases > of > > > > sibling rivalry. The 'weak' sibling eventually ends up being > > > > socially more successful, but still remains jealous! Again, > > cases > > > to > > > > the contrary are not unknown either. > > > > > > > > Jealousy never breeds happiness, though, but I could be wrong - > - > > > > other forum members might have illustrations and astrological > > > > examples of situations indicating otherwise, or even personal > > > > experiences to share. Maybe there might be those who have > > > > experienced, pondered upon this matter longer and may have > found > > > > other astrological answers for why jealousy afflicts the human > > > heart > > > > and eventually the soul. > > > > > > > > What possibly could be the remedy for this cancer, > astrological, > > > > tantric or just through personal efforts and successes perhaps. > > > > > > > > Sorry for rambling on, or so some may want to judge, but I > think > > > it > > > > is important to examine and eradicate this poison that > afflicts > > > > human minds and souls. > > > > > > > > The microphone is now turned over to the "group". Let the > > > > discussion, therapy and "remedy" begin. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brings words and photos together (easily) with > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Mail. > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 6 > Thu, 9 Mar 2006 06:46:01 -0800 (PST) > K Gopu <kgopu_24 > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > dear sir, > can we say that the feeling of jealousy is controlled > by the thoughts in the mind. astrologically mind is > more controlled by moon ( i am subjected to > correction) so if moon is afflicted or in association > with malefics or placement of moon or aspects to moon > by malefics may lead to intense jealous feelings. I > have observed that people with this jealous nature do > land up with a bad health. Once again 6th and 12th > house comes to play. Individuals with consistent > jealous feelings are the ones where astrological study > has to be done. Otherwise it is part of a normal human > behaviour to be jealous in a very subtle manner, maybe > it may be transient feeling. It is probably an inbuilt > behaviour of every individual who lives in this > material world. > > Let us overcome jealous feelings by diverting our > thoughts to God and trying to help the needy. > > May god bless all of us. > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 7 > Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:04:46 +0530 > "prosenjit" <sunsigns_forum > Online Astrology Discussion Forum > > Hello, > > Please come and join us in discussions on Western as well as Vedic > Astrology. Create your free astrology blog and more... > > Some of the recent interesting topics on the board: > > http://www.sunsigns.org/viewtopic.php?t=6394 << Morton explains karmic > tasks in one's lifetime for Abhishek by a Chalean technique. > http://www.sunsigns.org/viewtopic.php?t=6295 << An animated discussion > about Tropical astrology Vs. Sidereal Astrology > http://www.sunsigns.org/viewtopic.php?t=6270 << A discussion on > Nakshatras(Constellations) in Vedic Astrology > http://www.sunsigns.org/viewtopic.php?t=2539 << Members talk about Horary > Vs. Traditional Astrology > http://www.sunsigns.org/viewtopic.php?t=6455 << Vishwas and others talk > about the signs related to sun signs > http://www.sunsigns.org/viewtopic.php?t=6568 << Virinchi explains the > positive effects of Rudraksh > > and hundreds of other topics and discussion to share and discuss your > views on. > > Thanks, > Prosenjit > > www.sunsigns.org > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 8 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:08:53 -0000 > "vikumar_77" <vikumar_77 > Gurujans > > Kindly help. My wife is a handicap. On her pressure Iam trying a > insurance job for her. Will she get, when. Any remedy that sge gets > well. Her birth date is 14-9-1980 time 4.22 am, Gurdaspur. > > Thanks in advance > > Vinod kumar > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 9 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:13:09 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > Dear Gopu ji, > > Absolutely! When we begin exploring something like this, it is best > to use clear black and white cases with intense jealousy etc, before > testing too many subtle or fleeting instances of jealousy which can > only confuse such a study. Later, as we begin to discern certain > astrosignatures finer points can get added. That is the best > strategy, certainly. > > However, getting back to what you wrote, I think you have something > good there! Moon certainly is associated with the emotional makeup > of a person and jealousy is definitely closely associated with > emotions (moon) than perhaps with reasoning (mercury). However, the > treatment for this soul-eating disorder of the human experience > could come through talk-therapy and self-analysis (mercury) and > sometimes professional help may also be required. The weaker the > moon is or otherwise afflicted (paksha, malefics, in certain signs > which might make it more vulnerable etc), one would tend to think > that the individual may harbour jealousy. > > Mind you, it has to be several factors that (as I earlier mentioned > time and again) have to be taken into account, but since we are only > exploring here we can analyse one factor after another. Rishi > indicated certain facets, you mentioned another. This is how > astrology research and exploration builds up. There are no magical > or make or break situations that would fit in all charts. One self- > admitted individual who is very bright as far as I can tell has > scorpio moon rising, for instance. Immediately one should begin > asking questions about sun, mars, for starters -- which will define > the true state of strength of such a moon. Then the secondary rulers > also need to be considered and other malefics and benefics. Then all > of this needs to be compared with charts where scorpio moons have > little support. Kemadruma scorpio moons for instance, although even > there one must be cautious because there could be strong nakshatra > sambandhas or in other vargas which could nullify the 'loneliness' > of such a moon. > > Just sharing some thoughts with you, on research. > > Staying anchored in divine thoughts and on God is good advice too -- > and gets easier as other options become limited, as one progresses > in life. > > RR > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > > > dear sir, > > can we say that the feeling of jealousy is controlled > > by the thoughts in the mind. astrologically mind is > > more controlled by moon ( i am subjected to > > correction) so if moon is afflicted or in association > > with malefics or placement of moon or aspects to moon > > by malefics may lead to intense jealous feelings. I > > have observed that people with this jealous nature do > > land up with a bad health. Once again 6th and 12th > > house comes to play. Individuals with consistent > > jealous feelings are the ones where astrological study > > has to be done. Otherwise it is part of a normal human > > behaviour to be jealous in a very subtle manner, maybe > > it may be transient feeling. It is probably an inbuilt > > behaviour of every individual who lives in this > > material world. > > > > Let us overcome jealous feelings by diverting our > > thoughts to God and trying to help the needy. > > > > May god bless all of us. > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 10 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:46:22 -0000 > "Ayush Tripathi" <ayus_tripathi > Re: Gurujans(25591) > > Dear Vinod, > > Your wife's Birth Chart is very clear and easy to read. Your Q. > regarding her job is correct. Your wife became a handicap in the Ist > fortnight of May 2001 as an aftereffect of severe typhoid. Right! > > She will definitely get Insurance job in December, 2006 and she will > get cured of her present ailment in the IInd half of year 2014 > (Shani-Rahu-Guru period). She should wear a Yellow Saphire > (Pukhraz) in the First finger of left hand on a Thursday morning. > > Best wishes, > > tripathi., "vikumar_77" > <vikumar_77 wrote: > > > > Kindly help. My wife is a handicap. On her pressure Iam trying a > > insurance job for her. Will she get, when. Any remedy that sge > gets > > well. Her birth date is 14-9-1980 time 4.22 am, Gurdaspur. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Vinod kumar > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 11 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:12:21 -0000 > "gowrisys" <gowrisys > Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > > Dear RR ji, > > Thanks. Just curious, is he is going through Mercury Maha Dasha > as per his correct birth details. > > Thanks > Gowri > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb > wrote: > > > > I think you gave a different time too, earlier :-) > > We can only wait and see if the reading comes true or not. If it > > does, the time did not make a big difference, if not, maybe it > did :- > > ) Just to put your fears to rest, I almost always do not go 'just' > > with the birthdata given on internet requests because many of > these > > are inaccurate anyway :-) > > > > These readings have to be done quickly so it is also not possible > to > > record everything that is going through the astrologer's mind - > > particularly when the astrologer types like a tortoise :-( one of > > the few skills I am determined to fix in my next birthtime -- > > although dragon systems speech recognition is really coming close > to > > perfection! > > > > RR > > > > , "gowrisys" <gowrisys@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > > > Thanks for taking the time to look at his chart. > > > I am sorry, I think I gave the wrong place of birth > > > Here are the correct details.. > > > > > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > > Place Mayavaram TamilNadu > > > Time Afternoon 01:45 PM > > > > > > I am amazed at some of the things you mentioned. Yes, you are > right > > > that workplace politics(friends who are really enemy at heart) > did > > > affect his career to a large extent in 1999-2000 period. He has > > > become more spiritual in the last few years, but he has become > > more > > > paranoid and feels helpless about his career. We have been in US > > for > > > about 10 years now, but again you are right - he did get some > > > recognition at work during March 2005 and that kept his spirits > up > > > for a little while. But he is still lagging behind his peers in > > > terms of career progress and that makes him highly depressed. > > > > > > You mentioned that you see things changing for the better after > > > August 2006, with respect to his career. Does it still holds > true > > > with his chart now (with the correct details I have furnished > > > above). Also do you see any chances of him moving to a different > > job > > > etc. He has recently started reading Vishu Sahasranamam on > > > Wednesday's. Is Mercury the reason behind his career stagnation? > > > > > > Again, thanks a lot for taking the time to review. > > > > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Gowri ji, > > > > > > > > I must be looking at the wrong chart because for that date, > what > > > you > > > > write, dashawise is not matching. > > > > > > > > According to what I am seeing, the period that started in > > October > > > > 1999 represents the sixth house and hidden enemies (friends > who > > > are > > > > really enemy at heart) and workplace politics have somewhat > > > wrongly > > > > maligned and weakened his position at work. Association of > > period > > > > lord with debilitated mercury in 10th house does not help > > matters > > > > either. If he has become more spiritual/religious/surrendering > > in > > > > spirit since that period or a few years afterwards, then that > > > > explains the exchange of sorts that uccha sun has with its > > > > dispositor (this is not per classics, by the way!). If this is > > not > > > > the case and he remains paranoid, beligerent, cynical and > > > otherwise > > > > negative, please do let me know for I am looking for feedback, > > not > > > > having closed my books and exercise books yet (maybe just > maybe - > > - > > > > next semester, I will graduate!). > > > > > > > > During the period between August 2002 and September 2003 and > > again > > > > between august 2004 and September 2005 was there some change > in > > > the > > > > situation or mental outlook of your husband? Seemed like hope > > was > > > on > > > > horizon, even some sort of talk about his trying to go abroad > or > > a > > > > long travel or more training? And the periods were in a sense > > > > generally more calming to his spirit in some ways? Mind you > this > > > > would not be the case throughout the period but certain > moments > > or > > > > days stand out? It is always about the intensity of > experiences > > > that > > > > signal that planets are at work. > > > > > > > > In the latter period, was there some intervention from his > > father, > > > > or an earlier teacher? The advice was not gentle but firm and > > even > > > > stern? > > > > > > > > I am assuming that I am looking at the correct chart and you > did > > > not > > > > inadvertantly shared the wrong data -- you are obviously under > > > some > > > > stress and duress judging by your postings -- and > > > understandandably > > > > so :-) > > > > > > > > If that is so, I see a change as soon as August 2006. If all > > goes > > > > well, there is a significant change, in the geographical > > location > > > > and earnings -- a break for sure. Again after early July, the > > > > chances of this increase as earlier done good karmas and deeds > > > kick > > > > in. > > > > > > > > I see no need to get overzealous and interfere with the music > of > > > > the 'spheres' -- often they do not like that! > > > > > > > > Volunteering selflessly his service towards a charity or > > > > organization that serves to help women, particularly single > > > mothers > > > > would be advisable. > > > > > > > > Fasting on wednesdays for the rest of his working life or even > > > > longer would not hurt. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "gowrisys" > <gowrisys@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, Just realized I forgot to include time and place of > > birth. > > > > > Here are the details. > > > > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > > > > Place Coimbatore TamilNadu > > > > > Time 01:00 PM > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > , "gowrisys" > > <gowrisys@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband's DOB is March 13th 1965. > > > > > > As I understand he is currently having Marcury Maha Dasha > and > > > > > > is in the last 2.5 years for saturn transit. > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband's career has been stagnated for the last 6 > years > > or > > > > so > > > > > > with very little improvement. This has put a lot of mental > > > > strain > > > > > on > > > > > > him. > > > > > > I am inclined to think that it is because of the saturn > > > transit > > > > > > (which started in 2000), since there is a coincidence. > > > However, > > > > we > > > > > > are also not very sure if it's because of the Mercury > Dasa, > > > > since > > > > > we > > > > > > hear from my husband's parents that saturn is well placed > in > > > his > > > > > > chart. We have very limited knowledge on astrlogy and are > > > > > wondering > > > > > > if someone can help us with his chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Specifically, we are interested in knowing which planet is > > > > > blocking > > > > > > his career progress and if there are any remedial measures > > for > > > > the > > > > > > same. Also when can he see things moving in the right > > > direction? > > > > > > Otherwise financially we are pretty happy and don't have > any > > > > major > > > > > > concerns. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 12 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:24:34 -0000 > "miss_astro19" <miss_astro19 > example of Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > > dear members, wht away to furthur enhance this discussion than with > a living example of such behaviours. > > ive been posting details of a boy who is my cousin, now this boy > has a very jealous nature, he is very possesive, > he is sometimes, very positive but most of the times very negative, > sometimes too autocratic sometimes very democratic. he is a strange > psyco case, very insecure, very fearful, had many strange > inferirority complexes, tried to commit suicide many times, fell and > got decived in love thrice, but he is a genius, i 'm sure there are > few people when it comes to brain like him specially when it comes > to versatility, very hardworking but seldom got results of his hard > work. > > we can discuss after having his chart analysed all factors leading > to jealosy in extremes in humans. > > > dob--- 26/11/1981 > tob--- 16:08 > pob--- ajmer > > > looking forward to worthy discussions. > > ann > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > > > dear sir, > > can we say that the feeling of jealousy is controlled > > by the thoughts in the mind. astrologically mind is > > more controlled by moon ( i am subjected to > > correction) so if moon is afflicted or in association > > with malefics or placement of moon or aspects to moon > > by malefics may lead to intense jealous feelings. I > > have observed that people with this jealous nature do > > land up with a bad health. Once again 6th and 12th > > house comes to play. Individuals with consistent > > jealous feelings are the ones where astrological study > > has to be done. Otherwise it is part of a normal human > > behaviour to be jealous in a very subtle manner, maybe > > it may be transient feeling. It is probably an inbuilt > > behaviour of every individual who lives in this > > material world. > > > > Let us overcome jealous feelings by diverting our > > thoughts to God and trying to help the needy. > > > > May god bless all of us. > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 13 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:29:18 -0000 > "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > Respected Rohini ji, > > There is a concept of `masnui grah' in lal Kitab. If we mix two > colours a third one is formed , similarly when two planets meet or > have `yuti' they form a third artificial planet { masnui grah} or > the other way round , meaning every planet is composed of two > element. Mangal-bud is composed of Sun + Saturn or the other way > round Sun + Saturn are the constituents of mangal-bud. > How venus placed in the 9th house acts like a mangal-bud has been > beautifully explained by Dr.Bhooshanpriy in one of the articles in > file section of his group' lalkitabremedies'. If you are interested > in knowing more about it you can read it. > > lalkitabremedies/ > > Among so many other things , mangal bud also represents jealousy. > Whenever I have been specifically asked about jealousy , and when I > looked , I have invariably found the involvement of mangal-bud. I > don't remember exactly how many cases , may be four or five so far. > > With naman to all gurujan. > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb > wrote: > > > > Thanks for your input. One follow-up question. Why would mars > become > > bad (bud) if sun and saturn are joined or when venus is in 9th > house? > > Does the red book also state if these planets need to be in a > > certain house from mars or would the sun-saturn yuti can be in any > > house, for instance? > > > > I am especially interested in the sun-saturn combination. Also, > have > > you tested these tenets and found them working (none, some, all?). > > Your response would be of great help to practical astrologers and > > students of jyotish. > > > > RR > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of nek} > as > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal-bud } > > as " > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { bud } > > are > > > these : > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the horoscope. > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either through > > aspect > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 14 > Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:03:51 +0600 > "Tanvir" <ultimate > Re: POLL: Wow! Is dowry still around? > > Rohini Ji, Are you proposing to create a poll? Members are given the power > to create polls whenever they feel necessary. > > Not really sure about your post! > > Regards > Tanvir > > > > What cannot happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies > Where relief and solutions are found > > - > crystal pages > > Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:12 AM > POLL: Wow! Is dowry still around? > > > Is it, really? > > Tell us more -- no names please -- we do not want Tanvir to get in > trouble ;-) > > RR > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology software > > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "" on the web. > > b.. > > > c.. 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You have given v. > lengthy time of her cure. it will be v. difficult. I fully hope > that she will get insurance job in dec.,this year as you have > predicted. How many ratti pukhraz she should wear. Please tell. > > lot of regards, > > Vinod kumar, "Ayush > Tripathi" <ayus_tripathi wrote: > > > > Dear Vinod, > > > > Your wife's Birth Chart is very clear and easy to read. Your Q. > > regarding her job is correct. Your wife became a handicap in the > Ist > > fortnight of May 2001 as an aftereffect of severe typhoid. Right! > > > > She will definitely get Insurance job in December, 2006 and she > will > > get cured of her present ailment in the IInd half of year 2014 > > (Shani-Rahu-Guru period). She should wear a Yellow Saphire > > (Pukhraz) in the First finger of left hand on a Thursday morning. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > tripathi., "vikumar_77" > > <vikumar_77@> wrote: > > > > > > Kindly help. My wife is a handicap. On her pressure Iam trying > a > > > insurance job for her. Will she get, when. Any remedy that > sge > > gets > > > well. Her birth date is 14-9-1980 time 4.22 am, Gurdaspur. > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > Vinod kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 17 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:29:13 -0000 > "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > dear varun ji > > it is nice knowing your knowledge in lalkitab which i also studied > for its having remedies even for the poorest of the poor person. > since you are the only other member who writes on lalkitab in this > group, i put my understanding here. > > according to the redbook, in a chart where sun+saturn conjunction > takes place, not only mars becomes "bud", even rahu becomes "neech" > besides mercury becoming weak. however, these results are witnessed > only till the period of 36 years of age. please advise if my > understanding is correct or not. > > with best wishes > arjun > > , "varun_trvd" > <varun_trvd wrote: > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > There is a concept of `masnui grah' in lal Kitab. If we mix two > > colours a third one is formed , similarly when two planets meet or > > have `yuti' they form a third artificial planet { masnui grah} or > > the other way round , meaning every planet is composed of two > > element. Mangal-bud is composed of Sun + Saturn or the other way > > round Sun + Saturn are the constituents of mangal-bud. > > How venus placed in the 9th house acts like a mangal-bud has been > > beautifully explained by Dr.Bhooshanpriy in one of the articles in > > file section of his group' lalkitabremedies'. If you are > interested > > in knowing more about it you can read it. > > > > lalkitabremedies/ > > > > Among so many other things , mangal bud also represents jealousy. > > Whenever I have been specifically asked about jealousy , and when > I > > looked , I have invariably found the involvement of mangal-bud. I > > don't remember exactly how many cases , may be four or five so far. > > > > With naman to all gurujan. > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for your input. One follow-up question. Why would mars > > become > > > bad (bud) if sun and saturn are joined or when venus is in 9th > > house? > > > Does the red book also state if these planets need to be in a > > > certain house from mars or would the sun-saturn yuti can be in > any > > > house, for instance? > > > > > > I am especially interested in the sun-saturn combination. Also, > > have > > > you tested these tenets and found them working (none, some, > all?). > > > Your response would be of great help to practical astrologers > and > > > students of jyotish. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of nek} > > as > > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal- > bud } > > > as " > > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { > bud } > > > are > > > > these : > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the horoscope. > > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either through > > > aspect > > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 18 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:39:37 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > This is wonderful information and thanks for sharing! And, it is > such a great happenstance that you have already studied this topic a > bit. I do not want to impose upon you unnecessarily but if you care > to share some or all of those charts and take us through the steps > of deduction as per lal kitab, that would be greatly appreciated. > > I like the concept of planets within planets, kind of like the > colour spectrums. Hmm... > > Thanks > > RR > , "varun_trvd" > <varun_trvd wrote: > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > There is a concept of `masnui grah' in lal Kitab. If we mix two > > colours a third one is formed , similarly when two planets meet or > > have `yuti' they form a third artificial planet { masnui grah} or > > the other way round , meaning every planet is composed of two > > element. Mangal-bud is composed of Sun + Saturn or the other way > > round Sun + Saturn are the constituents of mangal-bud. > > How venus placed in the 9th house acts like a mangal-bud has been > > beautifully explained by Dr.Bhooshanpriy in one of the articles in > > file section of his group' lalkitabremedies'. If you are > interested > > in knowing more about it you can read it. > > > > lalkitabremedies/ > > > > Among so many other things , mangal bud also represents jealousy. > > Whenever I have been specifically asked about jealousy , and when > I > > looked , I have invariably found the involvement of mangal-bud. I > > don't remember exactly how many cases , may be four or five so far. > > > > With naman to all gurujan. > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for your input. One follow-up question. Why would mars > > become > > > bad (bud) if sun and saturn are joined or when venus is in 9th > > house? > > > Does the red book also state if these planets need to be in a > > > certain house from mars or would the sun-saturn yuti can be in > any > > > house, for instance? > > > > > > I am especially interested in the sun-saturn combination. Also, > > have > > > you tested these tenets and found them working (none, some, > all?). > > > Your response would be of great help to practical astrologers > and > > > students of jyotish. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of nek} > > as > > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal- > bud } > > > as " > > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { > bud } > > > are > > > > these : > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the horoscope. > > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either through > > > aspect > > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 19 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:42:29 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > example of Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > Ann -- if you happen to be reading this, thank you very much for the > data for your cousin. I am sure someone may volunteer to look at the > chart and enlighten us, or if that does not happen, as we get more > factors, we all can put our heads together and see if we can explain > based on the new information that is coming out -- particularly > interesting is Mr. Varun's posts on Lal Kitab (Red book -- I am > being presumptive in assuming that you do not speak hindustani, > hindi or urdu). > > Thanks for sharing, the only way to learn > > RR > > , "miss_astro19" > <miss_astro19 wrote: > > > > > > dear members, wht away to furthur enhance this discussion than > with > > a living example of such behaviours. > > > > ive been posting details of a boy who is my cousin, now this boy > > has a very jealous nature, he is very possesive, > > he is sometimes, very positive but most of the times very > negative, > > sometimes too autocratic sometimes very democratic. he is a > strange > > psyco case, very insecure, very fearful, had many strange > > inferirority complexes, tried to commit suicide many times, fell > and > > got decived in love thrice, but he is a genius, i 'm sure there > are > > few people when it comes to brain like him specially when it comes > > to versatility, very hardworking but seldom got results of his > hard > > work. > > > > we can discuss after having his chart analysed all factors > leading > > to jealosy in extremes in humans. > > > > > > dob--- 26/11/1981 > > tob--- 16:08 > > pob--- ajmer > > > > > > looking forward to worthy discussions. > > > > ann > > > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote: > > > > > > dear sir, > > > can we say that the feeling of jealousy is controlled > > > by the thoughts in the mind. astrologically mind is > > > more controlled by moon ( i am subjected to > > > correction) so if moon is afflicted or in association > > > with malefics or placement of moon or aspects to moon > > > by malefics may lead to intense jealous feelings. I > > > have observed that people with this jealous nature do > > > land up with a bad health. Once again 6th and 12th > > > house comes to play. Individuals with consistent > > > jealous feelings are the ones where astrological study > > > has to be done. Otherwise it is part of a normal human > > > behaviour to be jealous in a very subtle manner, maybe > > > it may be transient feeling. It is probably an inbuilt > > > behaviour of every individual who lives in this > > > material world. > > > > > > Let us overcome jealous feelings by diverting our > > > thoughts to God and trying to help the needy. > > > > > > May god bless all of us. > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 20 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:46:02 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: POLL: Wow! Is dowry still around? > > Rigid polls using poll options often leave a lot less options > to really understand something hence I opted to use the discussion > forum. I not only want to know if the scourge of dowry still exists, > and how much and then at some point perhaps a few examples of > instances where dowry was demanded vs dowry was declined could be > examined using astrology. > > I hope I am not breaking any of your rules by posting on your forum! > > RR > > > , "Tanvir" <ultimate > wrote: > > > > Rohini Ji, Are you proposing to create a poll? Members are given > the power to create polls whenever they feel necessary. > > > > Not really sure about your post! > > > > Regards > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > What cannot happen, can never happen. > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) > > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving > remedies > > Where relief and solutions are found > > > > - > > crystal pages > > > > Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:12 AM > > POLL: Wow! Is dowry still around? > > > > > > Is it, really? > > > > Tell us more -- no names please -- we do not want Tanvir to get > in > > trouble ;-) > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic astrology Astrology chart Astrology > software > > > > > > - > ----------- > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > b.. > > > > > > c.. Terms > of Service. > > > > > > - > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 21 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:51:25 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Sade Sathi or Mercury Dasa - Which is bad > > No, it would be tail end of ketu or early venus depending on which > ayanamsha and dasha year duration the astrologer is using. > > RR > > , "gowrisys" <gowrisys > wrote: > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > Thanks. Just curious, is he is going through Mercury Maha Dasha > > as per his correct birth details. > > > > Thanks > > Gowri > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I think you gave a different time too, earlier :-) > > > We can only wait and see if the reading comes true or not. If it > > > does, the time did not make a big difference, if not, maybe it > > did :- > > > ) Just to put your fears to rest, I almost always do not > go 'just' > > > with the birthdata given on internet requests because many of > > these > > > are inaccurate anyway :-) > > > > > > These readings have to be done quickly so it is also not > possible > > to > > > record everything that is going through the astrologer's mind - > > > particularly when the astrologer types like a tortoise :-( one > of > > > the few skills I am determined to fix in my next birthtime -- > > > although dragon systems speech recognition is really coming > close > > to > > > perfection! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , "gowrisys" <gowrisys@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for taking the time to look at his chart. > > > > I am sorry, I think I gave the wrong place of birth > > > > Here are the correct details.. > > > > > > > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > > > Place Mayavaram TamilNadu > > > > Time Afternoon 01:45 PM > > > > > > > > I am amazed at some of the things you mentioned. Yes, you are > > right > > > > that workplace politics(friends who are really enemy at heart) > > did > > > > affect his career to a large extent in 1999-2000 period. He > has > > > > become more spiritual in the last few years, but he has become > > > more > > > > paranoid and feels helpless about his career. We have been in > US > > > for > > > > about 10 years now, but again you are right - he did get some > > > > recognition at work during March 2005 and that kept his > spirits > > up > > > > for a little while. But he is still lagging behind his peers > in > > > > terms of career progress and that makes him highly depressed. > > > > > > > > You mentioned that you see things changing for the better > after > > > > August 2006, with respect to his career. Does it still holds > > true > > > > with his chart now (with the correct details I have furnished > > > > above). Also do you see any chances of him moving to a > different > > > job > > > > etc. He has recently started reading Vishu Sahasranamam on > > > > Wednesday's. Is Mercury the reason behind his career > stagnation? > > > > > > > > Again, thanks a lot for taking the time to review. > > > > > > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" > <rrgb@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Gowri ji, > > > > > > > > > > I must be looking at the wrong chart because for that date, > > what > > > > you > > > > > write, dashawise is not matching. > > > > > > > > > > According to what I am seeing, the period that started in > > > October > > > > > 1999 represents the sixth house and hidden enemies (friends > > who > > > > are > > > > > really enemy at heart) and workplace politics have somewhat > > > > wrongly > > > > > maligned and weakened his position at work. Association of > > > period > > > > > lord with debilitated mercury in 10th house does not help > > > matters > > > > > either. If he has become more > spiritual/religious/surrendering > > > in > > > > > spirit since that period or a few years afterwards, then > that > > > > > explains the exchange of sorts that uccha sun has with its > > > > > dispositor (this is not per classics, by the way!). If this > is > > > not > > > > > the case and he remains paranoid, beligerent, cynical and > > > > otherwise > > > > > negative, please do let me know for I am looking for > feedback, > > > not > > > > > having closed my books and exercise books yet (maybe just > > maybe - > > > - > > > > > next semester, I will graduate!). > > > > > > > > > > During the period between August 2002 and September 2003 and > > > again > > > > > between august 2004 and September 2005 was there some change > > in > > > > the > > > > > situation or mental outlook of your husband? Seemed like > hope > > > was > > > > on > > > > > horizon, even some sort of talk about his trying to go > abroad > > or > > > a > > > > > long travel or more training? And the periods were in a > sense > > > > > generally more calming to his spirit in some ways? Mind you > > this > > > > > would not be the case throughout the period but certain > > moments > > > or > > > > > days stand out? It is always about the intensity of > > experiences > > > > that > > > > > signal that planets are at work. > > > > > > > > > > In the latter period, was there some intervention from his > > > father, > > > > > or an earlier teacher? The advice was not gentle but firm > and > > > even > > > > > stern? > > > > > > > > > > I am assuming that I am looking at the correct chart and you > > did > > > > not > > > > > inadvertantly shared the wrong data -- you are obviously > under > > > > some > > > > > stress and duress judging by your postings -- and > > > > understandandably > > > > > so :-) > > > > > > > > > > If that is so, I see a change as soon as August 2006. If all > > > goes > > > > > well, there is a significant change, in the geographical > > > location > > > > > and earnings -- a break for sure. Again after early July, > the > > > > > chances of this increase as earlier done good karmas and > deeds > > > > kick > > > > > in. > > > > > > > > > > I see no need to get overzealous and interfere with the > music > > of > > > > > the 'spheres' -- often they do not like that! > > > > > > > > > > Volunteering selflessly his service towards a charity or > > > > > organization that serves to help women, particularly single > > > > mothers > > > > > would be advisable. > > > > > > > > > > Fasting on wednesdays for the rest of his working life or > even > > > > > longer would not hurt. > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , "gowrisys" > > <gowrisys@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, Just realized I forgot to include time and place of > > > birth. > > > > > > Here are the details. > > > > > > DOB March 13th 1965 > > > > > > Place Coimbatore TamilNadu > > > > > > Time 01:00 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > , "gowrisys" > > > <gowrisys@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband's DOB is March 13th 1965. > > > > > > > As I understand he is currently having Marcury Maha > Dasha > > and > > > > > > > is in the last 2.5 years for saturn transit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My husband's career has been stagnated for the last 6 > > years > > > or > > > > > so > > > > > > > with very little improvement. This has put a lot of > mental > > > > > strain > > > > > > on > > > > > > > him. > > > > > > > I am inclined to think that it is because of the saturn > > > > transit > > > > > > > (which started in 2000), since there is a coincidence. > > > > However, > > > > > we > > > > > > > are also not very sure if it's because of the Mercury > > Dasa, > > > > > since > > > > > > we > > > > > > > hear from my husband's parents that saturn is well > placed > > in > > > > his > > > > > > > chart. We have very limited knowledge on astrlogy and > are > > > > > > wondering > > > > > > > if someone can help us with his chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Specifically, we are interested in knowing which planet > is > > > > > > blocking > > > > > > > his career progress and if there are any remedial > measures > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > same. Also when can he see things moving in the right > > > > direction? > > > > > > > Otherwise financially we are pretty happy and don't have > > any > > > > > major > > > > > > > concerns. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > Gowri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 22 > Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:54:56 +0000 (GMT) > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > PIC: Vishnu-Garuda-Rahu-Moon together > > PICTURE: Vishnu-Garuda-Rahu-Moon together set with Tri-ratna, flawless > cat's eye, diamond and hessonite, in 21k gold. > > sacred-objects/ <---Svagatam!!! > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 23 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:30:48 -0000 > "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > Respected Rohini ji, > > I am not a professional astrologer, it is just a hobby. I do not > get to study many charts. But next time you come across a chart > with a malefic mars { mangal-bud } just assess the native for > jealousy. If I happen to come across one , I would love to share > with you. > > With naman to all gurujan, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb > wrote: > > > > This is wonderful information and thanks for sharing! And, it is > > such a great happenstance that you have already studied this topic > a > > bit. I do not want to impose upon you unnecessarily but if you > care > > to share some or all of those charts and take us through the steps > > of deduction as per lal kitab, that would be greatly appreciated. > > > > I like the concept of planets within planets, kind of like the > > colour spectrums. Hmm... > > > > Thanks > > > > RR > > , "varun_trvd" > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > There is a concept of `masnui grah' in lal Kitab. If we mix two > > > colours a third one is formed , similarly when two planets meet > or > > > have `yuti' they form a third artificial planet { masnui grah} > or > > > the other way round , meaning every planet is composed of two > > > element. Mangal-bud is composed of Sun + Saturn or the other way > > > round Sun + Saturn are the constituents of mangal-bud. > > > How venus placed in the 9th house acts like a mangal-bud has > been > > > beautifully explained by Dr.Bhooshanpriy in one of the articles > in > > > file section of his group' lalkitabremedies'. If you are > > interested > > > in knowing more about it you can read it. > > > > > > lalkitabremedies/ > > > > > > Among so many other things , mangal bud also represents > jealousy. > > > Whenever I have been specifically asked about jealousy , and > when > > I > > > looked , I have invariably found the involvement of mangal-bud. > I > > > don't remember exactly how many cases , may be four or five so > far. > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan. > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input. One follow-up question. Why would mars > > > become > > > > bad (bud) if sun and saturn are joined or when venus is in 9th > > > house? > > > > Does the red book also state if these planets need to be in a > > > > certain house from mars or would the sun-saturn yuti can be in > > any > > > > house, for instance? > > > > > > > > I am especially interested in the sun-saturn combination. > Also, > > > have > > > > you tested these tenets and found them working (none, some, > > all?). > > > > Your response would be of great help to practical astrologers > > and > > > > students of jyotish. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of > nek} > > > as > > > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal- > > bud } > > > > as " > > > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { > > bud } > > > > are > > > > > these : > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the horoscope. > > > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either > through > > > > aspect > > > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 24 > Thu, 09 Mar 2006 21:56:43 -0000 > "crystal pages" <rrgb > Re: Astrology of Jealousy > > In fact most of us on the forum are not professional. So you are in > like company :-) > That would be great if you could discuss, when you have time. And, > if you run into the charts you mentioned you saw earlier with the > lal kitab combinations, if you can find the time, please do post a > few words about those with birthdata etc. > > dhanyavaad > > RR > > , "varun_trvd" > <varun_trvd wrote: > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > I am not a professional astrologer, it is just a hobby. I do not > > get to study many charts. But next time you come across a chart > > with a malefic mars { mangal-bud } just assess the native for > > jealousy. If I happen to come across one , I would love to share > > with you. > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" <rrgb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > This is wonderful information and thanks for sharing! And, it is > > > such a great happenstance that you have already studied this > topic > > a > > > bit. I do not want to impose upon you unnecessarily but if you > > care > > > to share some or all of those charts and take us through the > steps > > > of deduction as per lal kitab, that would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > I like the concept of planets within planets, kind of like the > > > colour spectrums. Hmm... > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > RR > > > , "varun_trvd" > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > There is a concept of `masnui grah' in lal Kitab. If we mix > two > > > > colours a third one is formed , similarly when two planets > meet > > or > > > > have `yuti' they form a third artificial planet { masnui grah} > > or > > > > the other way round , meaning every planet is composed of two > > > > element. Mangal-bud is composed of Sun + Saturn or the other > way > > > > round Sun + Saturn are the constituents of mangal-bud. > > > > How venus placed in the 9th house acts like a mangal-bud has > > been > > > > beautifully explained by Dr.Bhooshanpriy in one of the > articles > > in > > > > file section of his group' lalkitabremedies'. If you are > > > interested > > > > in knowing more about it you can read it. > > > > > > > > lalkitabremedies/ > > > > > > > > Among so many other things , mangal bud also represents > > jealousy. > > > > Whenever I have been specifically asked about jealousy , and > > when > > > I > > > > looked , I have invariably found the involvement of mangal- > bud. > > I > > > > don't remember exactly how many cases , may be four or five so > > far. > > > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan. > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" > <rrgb@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your input. One follow-up question. Why would > mars > > > > become > > > > > bad (bud) if sun and saturn are joined or when venus is in > 9th > > > > house? > > > > > Does the red book also state if these planets need to be in > a > > > > > certain house from mars or would the sun-saturn yuti can be > in > > > any > > > > > house, for instance? > > > > > > > > > > I am especially interested in the sun-saturn combination. > > Also, > > > > have > > > > > you tested these tenets and found them working (none, some, > > > all?). > > > > > Your response would be of great help to practical > astrologers > > > and > > > > > students of jyotish. > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "varun_trvd" > > > > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > The Lal Kitab considers Mangal-bud { bud is the reverse of > > nek} > > > > as > > > > > > the karak of jealousy. It describes mars malefic { mangal- > > > bud } > > > > > as " > > > > > > eershya se khunkhaar" { ferocious with jealousy} > > > > > > > > > > > > When and under what conditions does Mars become malefic { > > > bud } > > > > > are > > > > > > these : > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mars placed in the 4th or the 8th house > > > > > > [ 2 ] If there is sun + Saturn combination in the > horoscope. > > > > > > [ 3 ] If the venus is in the 9th house > > > > > > [ 4 ] Mars in the company of either mercury or ketu or both > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Mars gets help from the Sun or the Moon either > > through > > > > > aspect > > > > > > or association , it will not be bud { malefic } > > > > > > > > > > > > With naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 25 > Thu, 9 Mar 2006 14:08:28 -0800 (PST) > brijesh bagga <brij731 > Re: Free horoscope analysys > > Dear Ashish, > Yes it is a big blunder the bhakoot dosha as she > landed in canada on 11dec and on 14th dec she madew some baseless arguments > and till this date i dont talk to her frequently. Thanks > Brij > > Ashish Astrologer <ashastro wrote: > > dear brijesh > 14-09-05 to mar-06 you may change your job as well as the place currently > liveing in > god bless > ashish > > > brijesh bagga <brij731 wrote: > Dear Ashish, > Thanks for your reply and we were just married on dec27 > 2004 but never had any honeymoon as the star of marriage was down at the > time of marriage so someone suggested that you can perform only marriage. So > may be in few months she will land in canada. Please do have a look as i am > planning for a job change when can i get it. > > Brijesh > > Ashish Astrologer <ashastro wrote: > dear brijesh > see i will tell you point blank why because it is always good to tell the > truth > 1.) till the time you are abroad i dont think you will face problem with > your job or finential needs > you might have faced this before that your marraige will defintely cause > you troubles because you will have to spend > more then what you wish > well you should have counselted someone before marraige because the bhakut > match decides the compatibility between the > bride and groom so there will be a few hbits of your and your wife which > will be a cause of misunderstnding > so i suggest you to be more understanding this time becuse see i dont > think divorce is only solution to every thing > if you decide to adjust a little it can help you my be tell me when your > married life start be specific about your problems > i will see how i can be of help > god bless > ashish > > > brijesh bagga <brij731 wrote: > Dear Ashish, > I was married again after a divorce on dec27 2005 and > the married life didnt started yet kindly tell me the details as how the > life will be when she land in canada from india and when we will be together > moreoverchildren and job prospect. The details are as follows > Brijesh 19 march 1966 16.10 new delhi india > Manjot 20th july 1970 6.25 amritsar india > > ashastro <ashastro wrote: > Hi, join the group free_analysys_ashish for free horoscope analysys > provide your date time and place of birth along with the choice of > analysys and/or free question. 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