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Dear Tarun and Tanvir,

 

I have read on this conjuction in one book as follows:

 

--------------------------

In any society at any time there are good people and

bad people. Good people are those who follow Dharma.

In another word Jupiter gives Satvik property. In

simple meaning Jupiter represents honesty of person.

So combination of Jupiter - Rahu decrease honesty of

person and he/she does not believe much in ethics.

This is not about corruption of money etc. It is in

terms of humanity and dignity. Such kind of people

called 'Chandal' in Sankrit. They can do any kind of

work, they can eat anything etc.

-------------------------

 

This is off course opinion of author of book. I have

same combination in my chart and I don't think that

I'm such kind of person.

 

Another thing is that this conjuction was occured in

1972 for atleast 6 months. I have 3 more close friend

having this conjuction born in 1972. So including me 4

person. But I could not carry out any common factor

between us regarding this conjuction and also not find

such tendency in any of us.

 

So finally I believe that this conjuction is

misinterpreted by modern astrology. Its prediction

should be something else may be more mystries.

 

regards,

 

Tushar

 

 

 

 

--- Tarun Chopra <astrotarun wrote:

> Dear Tanvir,

>

> I am not able to understand this that if Rahu and

> Jupiter which are

> conjunct for much long time say a rahu has 18 months

> transit and

> Jupiter around one year transit if at this

> conjunction those person

> who are born are not moral character I think. It

> should be not like

> this

>

> Hope you understand my point. I think a Jupiter is

> benevolence

> planet and rahu mystical planet when they are

> conjunct a persons can

> go deep into mystical science. And be a divine

> person. But it must

> take the affect of the house for example if Jupiter

> is placed in

> first house he will work for him self and other in

> mystical way and

> will be religious. If both planets placed in second

> house it can

> earn money from the sources of Jupiter but act in a

> mystical way. So

> that unexpected money will come in his life.

>

> If it is placed in fifth house he can be too learned

> and work in a

> mystical way for society. If Jupiter and rahu placed

> in sixth house

> he can be good in medical line and can treat people

> or heal people

> in mystical way. If it is placed in eight house he

> can be a gang

> leader and work in underworld. If Jupiter and rahu

> conjunct in 12th

> house may be he could lead a very spiritual life and

> experience

> divinity like that

>

> I hope to hear your comments on this

>

> Regards

>

> Tarun Chopra

>

>

>

> regards

>

> Tarun Chopra

>

> , "Tanvir"

> <tanvir@s...>

> wrote:

> > Dear Tarun,

> >

> > The chart has Guru-Chandala Yoga as I already

> stated in another

> list.

> >

> > Guru-Chandala yoga means conjunction of Rahu and

> Jupiter. Guru is

> Jupiter we alreadt know, and Chandal = Rahu. [i

> guess Chandal means

> something mean etc., not sure.] Similarly Sun-Rahu

> conjunction gives

> Aditya-Chandal yoga etc.

> >

> > This yoga gives tendency to act immoral, mean,

> illegal etc. It is

> also said to make the person cause terrorism and

> call in havoc etc.

> Jupiter's qualities are destroyed by terrorist Rahu

> !

> >

> > Rahu is a very mean planet with destroying

> quality, very tamasic

> in nature.

> > Thus when he joins the satvic Jupiter, the most

> benefic planet of

> virtue, dharma, he destroys this, at least weakens

> to a great scale.

> >

> > Also watch out that Ju is debilitated here...

> significally weak !

> Please look for any neecha bhanga factors...

> >

> > Regards,

> > Tanvir

> >

> >

> >

> > What can not happen, can never happen.

> > Which is mine, is forever mine.

> >

> > Tanvir Chowdhury

> > tanvir@s...

> > http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

> > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > Tarun Chopra

> >

> > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:58 AM

> > can any one read this lagna

> kundali

> >

> >

> > Hello Members and Tanvir

> >

> > Can any one could tell me any thing about this

> person he is male

> in

> > its 30 the horoscope is

> >

> > Planet Ret Sign (Rasi) Degrees Nakshatras

> >

>

--------------------

> > Ascendant Virgo 15° 7' Hasta

> > Sun Libra 21° 55' Visakha

> > Moon Scorpio 1° 9' Visakha

> > Mars R Aries 19° 32' Bharani

> > Mercury Scorpio 14° 23' Anuradha

> > Jupiter Capricorn 22° 8' Shravan

> > Venus Sagittarius 8° 9' Mula

> > Saturn R Gemini 23° 13' Punarvasu

> > Rahu Capricorn 0° 0'

> Uttarashadha

> > Ketu Cancer 0° 0' Punarvasu

> > Uranus Libra 12° 37' Swati

> > Neptune Scorpio 24° 31' Jyestha

> > Pluto Virgo 23° 56' Chitra

> >

> >

> > with regards

> >

> > Tarun Chopra

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Tarun,

I am aware of the fact that both being slow mover, the yoga can last for long.

But that is what the Sastra says!

 

If you take this fact, then many of the jyotish facts becomes useless! Sani

stays in debilitation for 2.5 yrs and million people all over the world are born

in that time! So will not they feel the effect of fallen Saturn? Even though

Moon is the fastest mover, then total 1/12th of the whole population would have

Moon in fall sign. Total 1/12th of the whole population would have particular

planets in same fallen and exalted etc. If you think from that stage, 1/12th

people would have exalted Su - does that mean exalted Su has no value? Same to

other planets... ...

 

Also, you have to consider a lot of other things like how close they are, what's

is the strength of Ju VS Rahu etc... if lagna / lord is being affected by any of

them... if Sa / Ma if aspecting the conjunction ... what houses Ju rules etc etc

etc - I do not think you will have to be reminded by me! You are a practicing

astrologer and so are suppossed to know much more than many of the "beginners"

and "novice"! :-)

 

Though this yoga lasts for long but it also does occur after long times... that

is why it becomes same "common" (statistically and from the view of effect) as

an fallen Sani or fallen Moon... though Moon and Sa are totally different in

motion but statistically 1/12th of all would have fallen moon and fallen saturn

!

 

So thinking all these I think it is better to forget about all these time

wasting statistics and better judge what the chart says :-)

 

I do not think rahu is mystical... might be sometimes people can not understand

his meanness / cunning tricks of destruction so call him 'mystic' :P He is

materially good but no doubt he will crash Ju's significators at least hamper

them a lot unless other matters are strong... he is against just, honour, truth

! Do not forget how he disguised himself as a god and even now he devours the

Sun...

 

BTW, as you said, 2nd house is not for earning! It is for saving money ie bank

ballance or other kinds of saving and "having money at hand". Earning is 11th,

with weak 11th but strong 2nd the person will earn less but gradually save money

and have a good bank ballance. But with weak 2nd but strong 11th the person will

earn a lot but will not save, and sometimes will face money prob for short time

- this is a very basis teaching and my experience finds this true, too! :-))))

 

Any discussion from anyone is welcome... ...

 

Regards,

Tanvir

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

tanvir

http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

 

 

 

 

-

Tarun Chopra

Thursday, May 22, 2003 5:58 PM

Guru Chandal Yoga

 

 

Dear Tanvir,

 

I am not able to understand this that if Rahu and Jupiter which are

conjunct for much long time say a rahu has 18 months transit and

Jupiter around one year transit if at this conjunction those person

who are born are not moral character I think. It should be not like

this

 

Hope you understand my point. I think a Jupiter is benevolence

planet and rahu mystical planet when they are conjunct a persons can

go deep into mystical science. And be a divine person. But it must

take the affect of the house for example if Jupiter is placed in

first house he will work for him self and other in mystical way and

will be religious. If both planets placed in second house it can

earn money from the sources of Jupiter but act in a mystical way. So

that unexpected money will come in his life.

 

If it is placed in fifth house he can be too learned and work in a

mystical way for society. If Jupiter and rahu placed in sixth house

he can be good in medical line and can treat people or heal people

in mystical way. If it is placed in eight house he can be a gang

leader and work in underworld. If Jupiter and rahu conjunct in 12th

house may be he could lead a very spiritual life and experience

divinity like that

 

I hope to hear your comments on this

 

Regards

 

Tarun Chopra

 

 

 

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Dear Tanvir,

I fully agree with ur views.

best regards

Rajas

, "Tanvir" <tanvir@s...> wrote:

> Dear Tarun,

> I am aware of the fact that both being slow mover, the yoga can

last for long. But that is what the Sastra says!

>

> If you take this fact, then many of the jyotish facts becomes

useless! Sani stays in debilitation for 2.5 yrs and million people

all over the world are born in that time! So will not they feel the

effect of fallen Saturn? Even though Moon is the fastest mover, then

total 1/12th of the whole population would have Moon in fall sign.

Total 1/12th of the whole population would have particular planets in

same fallen and exalted etc. If you think from that stage, 1/12th

people would have exalted Su - does that mean exalted Su has no

value? Same to other planets... ...

>

> Also, you have to consider a lot of other things like how close

they are, what's is the strength of Ju VS Rahu etc... if lagna / lord

is being affected by any of them... if Sa / Ma if aspecting the

conjunction ... what houses Ju rules etc etc etc - I do not think you

will have to be reminded by me! You are a practicing astrologer and

so are suppossed to know much more than many of the "beginners"

and "novice"! :-)

>

> Though this yoga lasts for long but it also does occur after long

times... that is why it becomes same "common" (statistically and from

the view of effect) as an fallen Sani or fallen Moon... though Moon

and Sa are totally different in motion but statistically 1/12th of

all would have fallen moon and fallen saturn !

>

> So thinking all these I think it is better to forget about all

these time wasting statistics and better judge what the chart says :-)

>

> I do not think rahu is mystical... might be sometimes people can

not understand his meanness / cunning tricks of destruction so call

him 'mystic' :P He is materially good but no doubt he will crash Ju's

significators at least hamper them a lot unless other matters are

strong... he is against just, honour, truth ! Do not forget how he

disguised himself as a god and even now he devours the Sun...

>

> BTW, as you said, 2nd house is not for earning! It is for saving

money ie bank ballance or other kinds of saving and "having money at

hand". Earning is 11th, with weak 11th but strong 2nd the person will

earn less but gradually save money and have a good bank ballance. But

with weak 2nd but strong 11th the person will earn a lot but will not

save, and sometimes will face money prob for short time - this is a

very basis teaching and my experience finds this true, too! :-))))

>

> Any discussion from anyone is welcome... ...

>

> Regards,

> Tanvir

>

>

>

> What can not happen, can never happen.

> Which is mine, is forever mine.

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

> tanvir@s...

> http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

> http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

>

>

>

>

> -

> Tarun Chopra

>

> Thursday, May 22, 2003 5:58 PM

> Guru Chandal Yoga

>

>

> Dear Tanvir,

>

> I am not able to understand this that if Rahu and Jupiter which

are

> conjunct for much long time say a rahu has 18 months transit and

> Jupiter around one year transit if at this conjunction those

person

> who are born are not moral character I think. It should be not

like

> this

>

> Hope you understand my point. I think a Jupiter is benevolence

> planet and rahu mystical planet when they are conjunct a persons

can

> go deep into mystical science. And be a divine person. But it

must

> take the affect of the house for example if Jupiter is placed in

> first house he will work for him self and other in mystical way

and

> will be religious. If both planets placed in second house it can

> earn money from the sources of Jupiter but act in a mystical way.

So

> that unexpected money will come in his life.

>

> If it is placed in fifth house he can be too learned and work in

a

> mystical way for society. If Jupiter and rahu placed in sixth

house

> he can be good in medical line and can treat people or heal

people

> in mystical way. If it is placed in eight house he can be a gang

> leader and work in underworld. If Jupiter and rahu conjunct in

12th

> house may be he could lead a very spiritual life and experience

> divinity like that

>

> I hope to hear your comments on this

>

> Regards

>

> Tarun Chopra

>

>

>

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respected sir,

I am a 33 years old having guru chandal yoga in second

house ( dhanu raashi ) of my chart. please tell me about its

implications. More details of my chart are as follows :-

 

NAME SWAPNIL

DATE 3RD NOV 1972

TIME 7:50 AM

PLACE KANPUR ( U.P.)

LAGNA VRISHCHIK

MERCURY VRISHCHIK (1)

JUPITER & RAHU DHANU (2)

SATURN VRISH (7)

KETU MITHUN (8)

MARS,MOON & VENUS KANYA (11)

SUN TULA (12)

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Was reading about chandal yog. I just want to know how bad is it and is there any way to reduce its effect. Is there any planetary position that can be present in the chart that can reduce the effect of rahu and jupiter.

How severe is the effect if these planets are in the 5th house.

 

I dont understand anything about patrikas and graha position. I may not have give enuf info... tho i hope i get some response with this info provided.

 

thanks

s

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Name: Praveen

Date of Birth: 24-december-1978

Place of Birth: Kurukshetra (Haryana-India)

Time of Birth: 07:22am.

I want to know about my professional career. Whether I would get government job or private job (whether I would get job in police or not).Marriage is love or arrange and at which time. I will be highly thankful to you if you email all these information at my emailid.

vikasgahlotastrology@gmail.com or vikasgahlotastrology@.co.in.

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Hi All,

I am very new to this forum and have almost NIL knowledge about astrology but have a keen interest.

Regarding Guru Chandal yoga I have been reading time to time since last year .. as I got associated with a person having this yoga in his eleventh house, he is born in Nov 1972.

The person lacks morality and faith in ethics.. He just goes by his on sweet will and morality , social laws are a useless things for him but most surprisingly he is a very lucky person in financial and all materialistic terms

As I dont know much about astrolgy ..so not sure of the reason but the person has Guru Chandal Yoga in 11th house and in dhanu rashi.

I also read somewhere that the person having this yoga may have chances of having disabled child.. ?? would be interested in knwoing and sdiscussing more on this topic.

Thanks

Regards

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Dear priyanka,

 

There are many factors to consider before assessing implications of a yoga. You could post the birth details..

 

Best wishes

Deepa

 

PS- Do not apply literal meanings on your own regarding chances of a disabled child. These texts have to be seen in 21st century implications. Your gynae will tell you within 12 weeks!

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OM GURUBHYO NAMAH

 

namaste

 

dear smt.priyanka,

 

 

can you please get birth details of that person ? try if you can.

 

 

dear sri.tushar,

 

hence it is imperative that one should look into vargas

to get a closer look at the grahas strength and disposition.

the 'avastha' of the planet is of paramount importance.

but how many of us look into that ?

 

laid out rules are fully correct. unfortunately we dont

apply them all, but rush for predictions.

 

 

may mother bless all

 

regards

 

sasisekaran

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Dear deepa and all

 

The person who has Guruchandal yoga in his 11th house has birth details as follows .. 14 Nov 1972, 14:40 hrs born in Mumbai.

 

 

quote=sasisekaran_pti]OM GURUBHYO NAMAH

 

namaste

 

dear smt.priyanka,

 

 

can you please get birth details of that person ? try if you can.

 

 

dear sri.tushar,

 

hence it is imperative that one should look into vargas

to get a closer look at the grahas strength and disposition.

the 'avastha' of the planet is of paramount importance.

but how many of us look into that ?

 

laid out rules are fully correct. unfortunately we dont

apply them all, but rush for predictions.

 

 

may mother bless all

 

regards

 

sasisekaran

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rahu is debilitated with jup. this person is irreligious,problematic man.

born to trouble others- if iam not wrong.

Remedies:- 9carats golden pukhraj = must

10&11mukhi rudraksha must

test blue sapphire(neelam) tie on right arm on sat for 1 week-if suits then go ahead wear in silver middle finger.(if not then go for 14 mukhi rudraksha)

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Hi All,

I am very new to this forum and have almost NIL knowledge about astrology but have a keen interest.

Regarding Guru Chandal yoga I have been reading time to time since last year .. as I got associated with a person having this yoga in his eleventh house, he is born in Nov 1972.

The person lacks morality and faith in ethics.. He just goes by his on sweet will and morality , social laws are a useless things for him but most surprisingly he is a very lucky person in financial and all materialistic terms

As I dont know much about astrolgy ..so not sure of the reason but the person has Guru Chandal Yoga in 11th house and in dhanu rashi.

I also read somewhere that the person having this yoga may have chances of having disabled child.. ?? would be interested in knwoing and sdiscussing more on this topic.

Thanks

Regards

this person doesnt have any moral fear.

rahu is debilitated with jup. this person is irreligious,problematic man.

born to trouble others- if iam not wrong.

Remedies:- 9carats golden pukhraj = must

10&11mukhi rudraksha must

test blue sapphire(neelam) tie on right arm on sat for 1 week-if suits then go ahead wear in silver middle finger.(if not then go for 14 mukhi rudraksha)

 

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