Guru Chandal yog

December 29, 2005

Hello learned ones,

Can anyone explain what are the effects of guru chandal yog

???

DOes the conjunction of ketu with jupiter aspected by mars also

creates this yog or only the conjunction with rahu.

Can some one clarify?

December 30, 2005

|| Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

Dear Vedickumar,

Let me share what I know. Jupiter's conjunction with either of the nodes can

cause Guru chandala yoga. The results could be ranging from cheating,

socially unethical activities to manushya hatya. Results can lead to native

being cheated others or cheating others. Manushya hatya may not always mean

native getting involved in such an activity, it may also show the native

having to see such an act!

Cheating may involve Dharma, Father or Guru may be involved as Jupiter

represents dharma or Guru and Sun represents father. Sanjayji believes that

such a yoga impacts Sun too! Rahu apart from cheating also stands for shock,

so the yoga can bring about shock. Placement of rahu will indicate the

source of such a shock, e.g. in 7H may show shock coming from spouse or

relationships and placement in lagna may shows native being the source of

the same.

This yoga can also be formed through mutual aspects e.g. rashi/graha drishti

between Rahu and Jupiter. Usually strengthening or praying to Sun is

recommended as when Jupiter (guru) is in difficulty Sun (king) comes to

rescue. With this I will leave it to others to contribute.

Best Wishes,

Ramesh

[] On

Behalf Of vedickumar

Friday, December 30, 2005 2:44 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Guru Chandal yog

Hello learned ones,

Can anyone explain what are the effects of guru chandal yog ???

DOes the conjunction of ketu with jupiter aspected by mars also creates this

yog or only the conjunction with rahu.

Can some one clarify?

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December 30, 2005

Thanks for clarifying rameshji

Is this case of guru chandala yoga with ketu at 24.20 and jupiter at

17.57 degrees .Also the moon is atmakarak.

Rasi

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Ma \ / |

|Sa \ / \ / |

|Su Me x Md As Gk x HL Mo |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ Ve / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ke \ 5 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Ju x Ra |

| \ / \ / |

|AL x x |

| / \ / \ |

| / GL \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

+--------------+

, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani"

<ramesh.gangaramani> wrote:

>

> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

>

> Dear Vedickumar,

> Let me share what I know. Jupiter's conjunction with either of the

nodes can

> cause Guru chandala yoga. The results could be ranging from

cheating,

> socially unethical activities to manushya hatya. Results can lead

to native

> being cheated others or cheating others. Manushya hatya may not

always mean

> native getting involved in such an activity, it may also show the

native

> having to see such an act!

> Cheating may involve Dharma, Father or Guru may be involved as

Jupiter

> represents dharma or Guru and Sun represents father. Sanjayji

believes that

> such a yoga impacts Sun too! Rahu apart from cheating also stands

for shock,

> so the yoga can bring about shock. Placement of rahu will

indicate the

> source of such a shock, e.g. in 7H may show shock coming from

spouse or

> relationships and placement in lagna may shows native being the

source of

> the same.

> This yoga can also be formed through mutual aspects e.g.

rashi/graha drishti

> between Rahu and Jupiter. Usually strengthening or praying to Sun

is

> recommended as when Jupiter (guru) is in difficulty Sun (king)

comes to

> rescue. With this I will leave it to others to contribute.

> Best Wishes,

> Ramesh

>

[] On

> Behalf Of vedickumar

> Friday, December 30, 2005 2:44 AM

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Guru Chandal yog

>

> Hello learned ones,

>

> Can anyone explain what are the effects of guru chandal yog ???

>

> DOes the conjunction of ketu with jupiter aspected by mars also

creates this

> yog or only the conjunction with rahu.

>

> Can some one clarify?

>

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> -

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>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

> Links

>

December 30, 2005

I thought Guru-Ketu yoga is good spiritually! where as, Guru-Rahu is

inauspicious and causes Guru Chandala yoga.

, "vedickumar" <vedickumar>

wrote:

>

> Thanks for clarifying rameshji

>

> Is this case of guru chandala yoga with ketu at 24.20 and jupiter

at

> 17.57 degrees .Also the moon is atmakarak.

>

> Rasi

> +--------------+

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / Ma \ / |

> |Sa \ / \ / |

> |Su Me x Md As Gk x HL Mo |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ Ve / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / Ke \ 5 / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | Ju x Ra |

> | \ / \ / |

> |AL x x |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / GL \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> +--------------+

>

> , "Ramesh F. Gangaramani"

> <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote:

> >

> > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> >

> > Dear Vedickumar,

> > Let me share what I know. Jupiter's conjunction with either of

the

> nodes can

> > cause Guru chandala yoga. The results could be ranging from

> cheating,

> > socially unethical activities to manushya hatya. Results can

lead

> to native

> > being cheated others or cheating others. Manushya hatya may not

> always mean

> > native getting involved in such an activity, it may also show

the

> native

> > having to see such an act!

> > Cheating may involve Dharma, Father or Guru may be involved as

> Jupiter

> > represents dharma or Guru and Sun represents father. Sanjayji

> believes that

> > such a yoga impacts Sun too! Rahu apart from cheating also

stands

> for shock,

> > so the yoga can bring about shock. Placement of rahu will

> indicate the

> > source of such a shock, e.g. in 7H may show shock coming from

> spouse or

> > relationships and placement in lagna may shows native being the

> source of

> > the same.

> > This yoga can also be formed through mutual aspects e.g.

> rashi/graha drishti

> > between Rahu and Jupiter. Usually strengthening or praying to

Sun

> is

> > recommended as when Jupiter (guru) is in difficulty Sun (king)

> comes to

> > rescue. With this I will leave it to others to contribute.

> > Best Wishes,

> > Ramesh

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of vedickumar

> > Friday, December 30, 2005 2:44 AM

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Guru Chandal yog

> >

> > Hello learned ones,

> >

> > Can anyone explain what are the effects of guru chandal yog ???

> >

> > DOes the conjunction of ketu with jupiter aspected by mars also

> creates this

> > yog or only the conjunction with rahu.

> >

> > Can some one clarify?

> >

> > ------------------------ Sponsor ------------------

--

> ~--> Join

> > modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and

> healing

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> > --------------------------------

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> -~->

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

> > Links

> >

>

December 30, 2005

|| Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

Dear Srinivas, Vedickumar,

It was my understanding too, but then I think I heard a lecture by Sanjayji,

where while discussing a case he called Jup-Ketu combination too as Guru

Chandala yoga. It was a case of native getting cheated, in this case more so

because of malefic in 4H (kapata yoga). Guru Chandala yoga being formed in

4H shows that cheating may be connected with matters connected with 4H

matters, like household property etc.

2 malefic planets in 3H can have an impact on health of younger sibling.

Looks like a Leo lagna and Mar 9L with Venus 10L makes a very strong dharma

karmadhipati yoga in Lagna. Venus 10L in lagna makes a simhasan yoga and

though afflicted by conjunction with Mars it is involved in parivartana yoga

with LL Sun. This parivarta yoga apart from other good things will give him

dhimanat yoga and make the native intelligent. Nasargika karka of Venus,

like relationship may get affected by conjunction with Sun during specific

dasa, 7L Saturn is also placed in 3H in an uncomfortable position with Sun.

Moon as AK makes a person very compassionate. Moon's placement in 7th from

AL can give a lot of fame.

Chart below is not so clear but looks like a Kala Amrita Yoga too, depending

on whether Jupiter is within the axis or outside. Jupiter either way will

help breaking it making it very beneficial eventually. 9L Mars in Lagna and

a possible KAY can lead the person in a very spiritual direction eventually

with a strong mission to do dharma related karma.

Best Wishes,

Ramesh

[] On

Behalf Of Srinivas Vadhri

Friday, December 30, 2005 3:12 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru Chandal yog

I thought Guru-Ketu yoga is good spiritually! where as, Guru-Rahu is

inauspicious and causes Guru Chandala yoga.

, "vedickumar" <vedickumar>

wrote:

>

> Thanks for clarifying rameshji

>

> Is this case of guru chandala yoga with ketu at 24.20 and jupiter

at

> 17.57 degrees .Also the moon is atmakarak.

>

> Rasi

> +--------------+

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / Ma \ / |

> |Sa \ / \ / |

> |Su Me x Md As Gk x HL Mo |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ Ve / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / Ke \ 5 / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | Ju x Ra |

> | \ / \ / |

> |AL x x |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / GL \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> +--------------+

>

> , "Ramesh F. Gangaramani"

> <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote:

> >

> > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> >

> > Dear Vedickumar,

> > Let me share what I know. Jupiter's conjunction with either of

the

> nodes can

> > cause Guru chandala yoga. The results could be ranging from

> cheating,

> > socially unethical activities to manushya hatya. Results can

lead

> to native

> > being cheated others or cheating others. Manushya hatya may not

> always mean

> > native getting involved in such an activity, it may also show

the

> native

> > having to see such an act!

> > Cheating may involve Dharma, Father or Guru may be involved as

> Jupiter

> > represents dharma or Guru and Sun represents father. Sanjayji

> believes that

> > such a yoga impacts Sun too! Rahu apart from cheating also

stands

> for shock,

> > so the yoga can bring about shock. Placement of rahu will

> indicate the

> > source of such a shock, e.g. in 7H may show shock coming from

> spouse or

> > relationships and placement in lagna may shows native being the

> source of

> > the same.

> > This yoga can also be formed through mutual aspects e.g.

> rashi/graha drishti

> > between Rahu and Jupiter. Usually strengthening or praying to

Sun

> is

> > recommended as when Jupiter (guru) is in difficulty Sun (king)

> comes to

> > rescue. With this I will leave it to others to contribute.

> > Best Wishes,

> > Ramesh

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of vedickumar

> > Friday, December 30, 2005 2:44 AM

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Guru Chandal yog

> >

> > Hello learned ones,

> >

> > Can anyone explain what are the effects of guru chandal yog ???

> >

> > DOes the conjunction of ketu with jupiter aspected by mars also

> creates this

> > yog or only the conjunction with rahu.

> >

> > Can some one clarify?

> >

> > ------------------------ Sponsor ------------------

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> ~--> Join

> > modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and

> healing

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> > --------------------------------

--

> -~->

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

> > Links

> >

>

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--~->

~ om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the

human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today

Links

December 30, 2005

Namaste All.............

What if Guru-Chandala yoga is in the Navamsha in the first house ?

these two occupying exactly the same navamsha degree

Thank you

Ajaya

>"Srinivas Vadhri" <vadhris

>

>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru Chandal yog

>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:12:19 -0000

>

>I thought Guru-Ketu yoga is good spiritually! where as, Guru-Rahu is

>inauspicious and causes Guru Chandala yoga.

>

>, "vedickumar" <vedickumar>

>wrote:

> >

> > Thanks for clarifying rameshji

> >

> > Is this case of guru chandala yoga with ketu at 24.20 and jupiter

>at

> > 17.57 degrees .Also the moon is atmakarak.

> >

> > Rasi

> > +--------------+

> > | \ / \ / |

> > | \ / Ma \ / |

> > |Sa \ / \ / |

> > |Su Me x Md As Gk x HL Mo |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | / \ Ve / \ |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | / Ke \ 5 / \ |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | Ju x Ra |

> > | \ / \ / |

> > |AL x x |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | / GL \ / \ |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > +--------------+

> >

> > , "Ramesh F. Gangaramani"

> > <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote:

> > >

> > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> > >

> > > Dear Vedickumar,

> > > Let me share what I know. Jupiter's conjunction with either of

>the

> > nodes can

> > > cause Guru chandala yoga. The results could be ranging from

> > cheating,

> > > socially unethical activities to manushya hatya. Results can

>lead

> > to native

> > > being cheated others or cheating others. Manushya hatya may not

> > always mean

> > > native getting involved in such an activity, it may also show

>the

> > native

> > > having to see such an act!

> > > Cheating may involve Dharma, Father or Guru may be involved as

> > Jupiter

> > > represents dharma or Guru and Sun represents father. Sanjayji

> > believes that

> > > such a yoga impacts Sun too! Rahu apart from cheating also

>stands

> > for shock,

> > > so the yoga can bring about shock. Placement of rahu will

> > indicate the

> > > source of such a shock, e.g. in 7H may show shock coming from

> > spouse or

> > > relationships and placement in lagna may shows native being the

> > source of

> > > the same.

> > > This yoga can also be formed through mutual aspects e.g.

> > rashi/graha drishti

> > > between Rahu and Jupiter. Usually strengthening or praying to

>Sun

> > is

> > > recommended as when Jupiter (guru) is in difficulty Sun (king)

> > comes to

> > > rescue. With this I will leave it to others to contribute.

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Ramesh

> > >

> > [] On

> > > Behalf Of vedickumar

> > > Friday, December 30, 2005 2:44 AM

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Guru Chandal yog

> > >

> > > Hello learned ones,

> > >

> > > Can anyone explain what are the effects of guru chandal yog ???

> > >

> > > DOes the conjunction of ketu with jupiter aspected by mars also

> > creates this

> > > yog or only the conjunction with rahu.

> > >

> > > Can some one clarify?

> > >

> > > ------------------------ Sponsor ------------------

>--

> > ~--> Join

> > > modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and

> > healing

> > > http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM

> > > --------------------------------

>--

> > -~->

> > >

> > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> > that the

> > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> > reading today

> > > Links

> > >

> >

>

December 30, 2005

Dear Ramesh ji

I also have guru chandal yoga , where guru in conjuction with ketu.

i felt that while i am having Rahu antardasha , i got cheated in matter

of relationship. If you can read my chart regarding this particular

yoga i will be grateful to u

My dob :- 19-07-1983

TIme:- 10.35 am

Place:- Jodhpur (Rajasthan india)

Thanks

Tarun Agarwal

Ramesh F. Gangaramani wrote:

|| Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

Dear Srinivas, Vedickumar,

It was my understanding too, but then I think I heard a lecture by

Sanjayji,

where while discussing a case he called Jup-Ketu combination too as Guru

Chandala yoga. It was a case of native getting cheated, in this case

more so

because of malefic in 4H (kapata yoga). Guru Chandala yoga being formed

in

4H shows that cheating may be connected with matters connected with 4H

matters, like household property etc.

2 malefic planets in 3H can have an impact on health of younger sibling.

Looks like a Leo lagna and Mar 9L with Venus 10L makes a very strong

dharma

karmadhipati yoga in Lagna. Venus 10L in lagna makes a simhasan yoga and

though afflicted by conjunction with Mars it is involved in parivartana

yoga

with LL Sun. This parivarta yoga apart from other good things will give

him

dhimanat yoga and make the native intelligent. Nasargika karka of Venus,

like relationship may get affected by conjunction with Sun during

specific

dasa, 7L Saturn is also placed in 3H in an uncomfortable position with

Sun.

Moon as AK makes a person very compassionate. Moon's placement in 7th

from

AL can give a lot of fame.

Chart below is not so clear but looks like a Kala Amrita Yoga too,

depending

on whether Jupiter is within the axis or outside. Jupiter either way

will

help breaking it making it very beneficial eventually. 9L Mars in Lagna

and

a possible KAY can lead the person in a very spiritual direction

eventually

with a strong mission to do dharma related karma.

Best Wishes,

Ramesh

[] On

Behalf Of Srinivas Vadhri

Friday, December 30, 2005 3:12 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru Chandal yog

I thought Guru-Ketu yoga is good spiritually! where as, Guru-Rahu is

inauspicious and causes Guru Chandala yoga.

, "vedickumar"

wrote:

>

> Thanks for clarifying rameshji

>

> Is this case of guru chandala yoga with ketu at 24.20 and jupiter

at

> 17.57 degrees .Also the moon is atmakarak.

>

> Rasi

> +--------------+

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / Ma \ / |

> |Sa \ / \ / |

> |Su Me x Md As Gk x HL Mo |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ Ve / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / Ke \ 5 / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | Ju x Ra |

> | \ / \ / |

> |AL x x |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / GL \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> +--------------+

>

> , "Ramesh F. Gangaramani"

> <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote:

> >

> > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> >

> > Dear Vedickumar,

> > Let me share what I know. Jupiter's conjunction with either of

the

> nodes can

> > cause Guru chandala yoga. The results could be ranging from

> cheating,

> > socially unethical activities to manushya hatya. Results can

lead

> to native

> > being cheated others or cheating others. Manushya hatya may

not

> always mean

> > native getting involved in such an activity, it may also show

the

> native

> > having to see such an act!

> > Cheating may involve Dharma, Father or Guru may be involved as

> Jupiter

> > represents dharma or Guru and Sun represents father. Sanjayji

> believes that

> > such a yoga impacts Sun too! Rahu apart from cheating also

stands

> for shock,

> > so the yoga can bring about shock. Placement of rahu will

> indicate the

> > source of such a shock, e.g. in 7H may show shock coming from

> spouse or

> > relationships and placement in lagna may shows native being

the

> source of

> > the same.

> > This yoga can also be formed through mutual aspects e.g.

> rashi/graha drishti

> > between Rahu and Jupiter. Usually strengthening or praying to

Sun

> is

> > recommended as when Jupiter (guru) is in difficulty Sun (king)

> comes to

> > rescue. With this I will leave it to others to contribute.

> > Best Wishes,

> > Ramesh

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of vedickumar

> > Friday, December 30, 2005 2:44 AM

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Guru Chandal yog

> >

> > Hello learned ones,

> >

> > Can anyone explain what are the effects of guru chandal yog

???

> >

> > DOes the conjunction of ketu with jupiter aspected by mars

also

> creates this

> > yog or only the conjunction with rahu.

> >

> > Can some one clarify?

> >

> > ------------------------ Sponsor

------------------

--

> ~--> Join

> > modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope

and

> healing

> > http://us.click./lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/C9XolB/TM

> >

--------------------------------

--

> -~->

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

> > Links

> >

>

------------------------ Sponsor

--------------------~--> Join

modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing

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--~->

~ om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that

the

human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading

today

Links

December 30, 2005

|| Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

Dear Tarun,

You do have Jupiter-Ketu conjunction in 3rd house. I cant figure out if the

matter of cheating had anything to do with 3rd house. Jupiter however is 7L.

Are you married? You have UL in 2nd from AL, showing native feeling neglected

by spouse, in worst case spouse leaving the native.

Your AK is also Moon, a compassionate person. Moon AK persons are tested with

married persons! They also often have to go through separation, short or long

term. You too have KAY again broken by Jupiter. Plus a pravarajya yoga formed

by Saturn and Moon aspecting AL by rashi drishti. Both lead to spiritual

inclinations. 2L placed in 12h may indicate charities. 12L in 11h may indicate

income from foreign sources.

Best Wishes,

Ramesh

[] On

Behalf Of ~Tarun~Friday, December 30, 2005 10:22 PMTo:

Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Guru Chandal yog

Dear Ramesh jiI also have guru chandal yoga , where guru in conjuction with

ketu.i felt that while i am having Rahu antardasha , i got cheated in matter of

relationship. If you can read my chart regarding this particular yoga i will be

grateful to uMy dob :- 19-07-1983TIme:- 10.35 amPlace:- Jodhpur (Rajasthan

india)ThanksTarun AgarwalRamesh F. Gangaramani wrote: || Satyam Bruyat Priyam

Bruyat ||Dear Srinivas, Vedickumar,It was my understanding too, but then I

think I heard a lecture by Sanjayji,where while discussing a case he called

Jup-Ketu combination too as GuruChandala yoga. It was a case of native getting

cheated, in this case more sobecause of malefic in 4H (kapata yoga). Guru

Chandala yoga being formed in4H shows that cheating may be connected with

matters connected with 4Hmatters, like household property etc.2 malefic planets

in 3H can have an impact on health of younger sibling.Looks like a Leo lagna and

Mar 9L with Venus 10L makes a very strong dharmakarmadhipati yoga in Lagna.

Venus 10L in lagna makes a simhasan yoga andthough afflicted by conjunction

with Mars it is involved in parivartana yogawith LL Sun. This parivarta yoga

apart from other good things will give himdhimanat yoga and make the native

intelligent. Nasargika karka of Venus,like relationship may get affected by

conjunction with Sun during specificdasa, 7L Saturn is also placed in 3H in an

uncomfortable position with Sun.Moon as AK makes a person very compassionate.

Moon's placement in 7th fromAL can give a lot of fame.Chart below is not so

clear but looks like a Kala Amrita Yoga too, dependingon whether Jupiter is

within the axis or outside. Jupiter either way willhelp breaking it making it

very beneficial eventually. 9L Mars in Lagna anda possible KAY can lead the

person in a very spiritual direction eventuallywith a strong mission to do

dharma related karma.Best Wishes,Ramesh

[] OnBehalf Of

Srinivas VadhriFriday, December 30, 2005 3:12 PMTo:

Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru Chandal yogI

thought Guru-Ketu yoga is good spiritually! where as, Guru-Rahu isinauspicious

and causes Guru Chandala yoga., "vedickumar"

<vedickumar>wrote:>> Thanks for clarifying rameshji> > Is this case of guru

chandala yoga with ketu at 24.20 and jupiterat > 17.57 degrees .Also the moon

is atmakarak.> > Rasi >

+--------------+> | \ / \

/ |> | \ / \ / |> | \

/ \ / |> | \ / Ma \

/ |> |Sa \ / \ / |> |Su Me x

Md As Gk x HL Mo |> | / \ / \

|> | / \ Ve / \ |> | / \

/ \ |> | / Ke \ 5 / \ |> | /

\ / \ |> | Ju x

Ra |> | \ / \ / |> | \

/ \ / |> | \ / \ /

|> | \ / \ / |> | \ /

\ / |> |AL x x |> |

/ \ / \ |> | / \

/ \ |> | / \ / \ |> | /

GL \ / \ |> | / \ /

\ |> +--------------+> > > > > --- In

, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" >

<ramesh.gangaramani> wrote:> >> > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||> > >

> Dear Vedickumar,> > Let me share what I know. Jupiter's conjunction with

either ofthe > nodes can> > cause Guru chandala yoga. The results could be

ranging from> cheating,> > socially unethical activities to manushya hatya.

Results canlead > to native> > being cheated others or cheating others.

Manushya hatya may not> always mean> > native getting involved in such an

activity, it may also showthe > native> > having to see such an act!> >

Cheating may involve Dharma, Father or Guru may be involved as> Jupiter> >

represents dharma or Guru and Sun represents father. Sanjayji> believes that> >

such a yoga impacts Sun too! Rahu apart from cheating alsostands > for shock,> >

so the yoga can bring about shock. Placement of rahu will> indicate the> >

source of such a shock, e.g. in 7H may show shock coming from> spouse or> >

relationships and placement in lagna may shows native being the> source of> >

the same.> > This yoga can also be formed through mutual aspects e.g. >

rashi/graha drishti> > between Rahu and Jupiter. Usually strengthening or

praying toSun > is> > recommended as when Jupiter (guru) is in difficulty Sun

(king)> comes to> > rescue. With this I will leave it to others to contribute.>

> Best Wishes,> > Ramesh> > > > > > > > > >

> [] On> >

Behalf Of vedickumar> > Friday, December 30, 2005 2:44 AM> > To:

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Guru Chandal yog> >

> > Hello learned ones,> > > > Can anyone explain what are the effects of guru

chandal yog ???> > > > DOes the conjunction of ketu with jupiter aspected by

mars also> creates this> > yog or only the conjunction with rahu.> > > > Can

some one clarify?> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------

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December 30, 2005

Many thanks rameshji,

Yes this chart has KAY and jupiter is conjunct ketu in 4th house

while mars is with venus in lagna.

There is very less data available on guru chandal yog

Can you tell me that due to GURU -CHANDAL yog will the person cheat

others or be cheated .How can this be determined???

If you would want birthdata then

date-28 october,1983

time--3.20 A.m

location---Thane,72e58,19n12

Regards

, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani"

<ramesh.gangaramani> wrote:

>

> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

>

> Dear Srinivas, Vedickumar,

> It was my understanding too, but then I think I heard a lecture by

Sanjayji,

> where while discussing a case he called Jup-Ketu combination too

as Guru

> Chandala yoga. It was a case of native getting cheated, in this

case more so

> because of malefic in 4H (kapata yoga). Guru Chandala yoga being

formed in

> 4H shows that cheating may be connected with matters connected

with 4H

> matters, like household property etc.

> 2 malefic planets in 3H can have an impact on health of younger

sibling.

> Looks like a Leo lagna and Mar 9L with Venus 10L makes a very

strong dharma

> karmadhipati yoga in Lagna. Venus 10L in lagna makes a simhasan

yoga and

> though afflicted by conjunction with Mars it is involved in

parivartana yoga

> with LL Sun. This parivarta yoga apart from other good things will

give him

> dhimanat yoga and make the native intelligent. Nasargika karka of

Venus,

> like relationship may get affected by conjunction with Sun during

specific

> dasa, 7L Saturn is also placed in 3H in an uncomfortable position

with Sun.

> Moon as AK makes a person very compassionate. Moon's placement in

7th from

> AL can give a lot of fame.

> Chart below is not so clear but looks like a Kala Amrita Yoga too,

depending

> on whether Jupiter is within the axis or outside. Jupiter either

way will

> help breaking it making it very beneficial eventually. 9L Mars in

Lagna and

> a possible KAY can lead the person in a very spiritual direction

eventually

> with a strong mission to do dharma related karma.

> Best Wishes,

> Ramesh

>

[] On

> Behalf Of Srinivas Vadhri

> Friday, December 30, 2005 3:12 PM

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru Chandal yog

>

> I thought Guru-Ketu yoga is good spiritually! where as, Guru-Rahu

is

> inauspicious and causes Guru Chandala yoga.

>

> , "vedickumar" <vedickumar>

> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks for clarifying rameshji

> >

> > Is this case of guru chandala yoga with ketu at 24.20 and jupiter

> at

> > 17.57 degrees .Also the moon is atmakarak.

> >

> > Rasi

> > +--------------+

> > | \ / \ / |

> > | \ / Ma \ / |

> > |Sa \ / \ / |

> > |Su Me x Md As Gk x HL Mo |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | / \ Ve / \ |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | / Ke \ 5 / \ |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | Ju x Ra |

> > | \ / \ / |

> > |AL x x |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | / GL \ / \ |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > +--------------+

> >

> > , "Ramesh F. Gangaramani"

> > <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote:

> > >

> > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> > >

> > > Dear Vedickumar,

> > > Let me share what I know. Jupiter's conjunction with either of

> the

> > nodes can

> > > cause Guru chandala yoga. The results could be ranging from

> > cheating,

> > > socially unethical activities to manushya hatya. Results can

> lead

> > to native

> > > being cheated others or cheating others. Manushya hatya may not

> > always mean

> > > native getting involved in such an activity, it may also show

> the

> > native

> > > having to see such an act!

> > > Cheating may involve Dharma, Father or Guru may be involved as

> > Jupiter

> > > represents dharma or Guru and Sun represents father. Sanjayji

> > believes that

> > > such a yoga impacts Sun too! Rahu apart from cheating also

> stands

> > for shock,

> > > so the yoga can bring about shock. Placement of rahu will

> > indicate the

> > > source of such a shock, e.g. in 7H may show shock coming from

> > spouse or

> > > relationships and placement in lagna may shows native being the

> > source of

> > > the same.

> > > This yoga can also be formed through mutual aspects e.g.

> > rashi/graha drishti

> > > between Rahu and Jupiter. Usually strengthening or praying to

> Sun

> > is

> > > recommended as when Jupiter (guru) is in difficulty Sun (king)

> > comes to

> > > rescue. With this I will leave it to others to contribute.

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Ramesh

> > >

> > [] On

> > > Behalf Of vedickumar

> > > Friday, December 30, 2005 2:44 AM

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Guru Chandal yog

> > >

> > > Hello learned ones,

> > >

> > > Can anyone explain what are the effects of guru chandal

yog ???

> > >

> > > DOes the conjunction of ketu with jupiter aspected by mars also

> > creates this

> > > yog or only the conjunction with rahu.

> > >

> > > Can some one clarify?

> > >

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Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

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> > that the

> > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

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> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

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December 30, 2005

My humble observation: People born from June 16th 2001 to Feb 16th

2002 have this Guru Chandala Yoga. Would this mean that all of them

will get cheated or cheat and would things be inauspicious. This

according to me is a general rule. I have seen (atleast three

horoscopes) where the Guru Chandala Yoga occurs in the 11th house.

One of them has Leo lagna, the other has Aquarius Lagna and the

third had Libra Ascendent. They are all from highly respectable

families, learned, pious and very well placed.

Another person had Gemini Ascendent with the Guru Chandala Yoga

occuring in the 7th house. He struggled to get married as all

astrologers rejected him because of the yoga. Today he is married

for the last 5 years with an Indian having a green card in US and

doing well in life.

Can someone shed more light.

Sunil

, "vedickumar" <vedickumar>

wrote:

>

> Thanks for clarifying rameshji

>

> Is this case of guru chandala yoga with ketu at 24.20 and jupiter

at

> 17.57 degrees .Also the moon is atmakarak.

>

> Rasi

> +--------------+

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / Ma \ / |

> |Sa \ / \ / |

> |Su Me x Md As Gk x HL Mo |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ Ve / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / Ke \ 5 / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | Ju x Ra |

> | \ / \ / |

> |AL x x |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / GL \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> +--------------+

>

> , "Ramesh F. Gangaramani"

> <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote:

> >

> > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> >

> > Dear Vedickumar,

> > Let me share what I know. Jupiter's conjunction with either of

the

> nodes can

> > cause Guru chandala yoga. The results could be ranging from

> cheating,

> > socially unethical activities to manushya hatya. Results can

lead

> to native

> > being cheated others or cheating others. Manushya hatya may not

> always mean

> > native getting involved in such an activity, it may also show

the

> native

> > having to see such an act!

> > Cheating may involve Dharma, Father or Guru may be involved as

> Jupiter

> > represents dharma or Guru and Sun represents father. Sanjayji

> believes that

> > such a yoga impacts Sun too! Rahu apart from cheating also

stands

> for shock,

> > so the yoga can bring about shock. Placement of rahu will

> indicate the

> > source of such a shock, e.g. in 7H may show shock coming from

> spouse or

> > relationships and placement in lagna may shows native being the

> source of

> > the same.

> > This yoga can also be formed through mutual aspects e.g.

> rashi/graha drishti

> > between Rahu and Jupiter. Usually strengthening or praying to

Sun

> is

> > recommended as when Jupiter (guru) is in difficulty Sun (king)

> comes to

> > rescue. With this I will leave it to others to contribute.

> > Best Wishes,

> > Ramesh

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of vedickumar

> > Friday, December 30, 2005 2:44 AM

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Guru Chandal yog

> >

> > Hello learned ones,

> >

> > Can anyone explain what are the effects of guru chandal yog ???

> >

> > DOes the conjunction of ketu with jupiter aspected by mars also

> creates this

> > yog or only the conjunction with rahu.

> >

> > Can some one clarify?

> >

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> > modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and

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> > --------------------------------

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> -~->

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

> > Links

> >

>

December 31, 2005

Dear Ramesh ji,

I am very grateful to you for providing me the readings. The chart

posted by you is very much correct.

Right now i am not married but i had an long term affair an yr before.

which lasted for 2.5 yrs. Before that and after that i didnt had any

relationship in that matter.

As my marriage lord or 7th lord is with ketu. Will it create some

problems in my after marriage life. or in marriage.

or will the antar dasha of ketu after a few yrs will be some

problematic .

Kindly Suggest me further.

Thanks and Best Regards

Tarun.

Ramesh F. Gangaramani wrote:

|| Satyam

Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

Dear Tarun,

You do have Jupiter-Ketu conjunction in 3rd

house. I cant figure out if the matter of cheating had anything to do

with 3rd house. Jupiter however is 7L. Are you married? You have UL in

2nd from AL, showing native feeling neglected by spouse, in worst case

spouse leaving the native.

Your AK is also Moon, a compassionate

person. Moon AK persons are tested with married persons! They also

often have to go through separation, short or long term. You too

have KAY again broken by Jupiter. Plus a pravarajya yoga formed by

Saturn and Moon aspecting AL by rashi drishti. Both lead to spiritual

inclinations. 2L placed in 12h may indicate charities. 12L in 11h may

indicate income from foreign sources.

Best

Wishes,

Ramesh

[] On

Behalf Of ~Tarun~

Friday, December 30, 2005 10:22 PM

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Guru Chandal yog

Dear Ramesh ji

I also have guru chandal yoga , where guru in conjuction with ketu.

i felt that while i am having Rahu antardasha , i got cheated in matter

of relationship. If you can read my chart regarding this particular

yoga i will be grateful to u

My dob :- 19-07-1983

TIme:- 10.35 am

Place:- Jodhpur (Rajasthan india)

Thanks

Tarun Agarwal

Ramesh F. Gangaramani wrote:

|| Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

Dear Srinivas, Vedickumar,

It was my understanding too, but then I think I heard a lecture by

Sanjayji,

where while discussing a case he called Jup-Ketu combination too as Guru

Chandala yoga. It was a case of native getting cheated, in this case

more so

because of malefic in 4H (kapata yoga). Guru Chandala yoga being formed

in

4H shows that cheating may be connected with matters connected with 4H

matters, like household property etc.

2 malefic planets in 3H can have an impact on health of younger sibling.

Looks like a Leo lagna and Mar 9L with Venus 10L makes a very strong

dharma

karmadhipati yoga in Lagna. Venus 10L in lagna makes a simhasan yoga and

though afflicted by conjunction with Mars it is involved in parivartana

yoga

with LL Sun. This parivarta yoga apart from other good things will give

him

dhimanat yoga and make the native intelligent. Nasargika karka of Venus,

like relationship may get affected by conjunction with Sun during

specific

dasa, 7L Saturn is also placed in 3H in an uncomfortable position with

Sun.

Moon as AK makes a person very compassionate. Moon's placement in 7th

from

AL can give a lot of fame.

Chart below is not so clear but looks like a Kala Amrita Yoga too,

depending

on whether Jupiter is within the axis or outside. Jupiter either way

will

help breaking it making it very beneficial eventually. 9L Mars in Lagna

and

a possible KAY can lead the person in a very spiritual direction

eventually

with a strong mission to do dharma related karma.

Best Wishes,

Ramesh

[]

On

Behalf Of Srinivas Vadhri

Friday, December 30, 2005 3:12 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru Chandal yog

I thought Guru-Ketu yoga is good spiritually! where as, Guru-Rahu is

inauspicious and causes Guru Chandala yoga.

,

"vedickumar" <vedickumar>

wrote:

>

> Thanks for clarifying rameshji

>

> Is this case of guru chandala yoga with ketu at 24.20 and jupiter

at

> 17.57 degrees .Also the moon is atmakarak.

>

> Rasi

> +--------------+

> | \ / \ / |

> | \ / Ma \ / |

> |Sa \ / \ / |

> |Su Me x Md As Gk x HL Mo |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / \ Ve / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / Ke \ 5 / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> | Ju x Ra |

> | \ / \ / |

> |AL x x |

> | / \ / \ |

> | / GL \ / \ |

> | / \ / \ |

> +--------------+

>

> ,

"Ramesh F. Gangaramani"

> <ramesh.gangaramani>

wrote:

> >

> > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> >

> > Dear Vedickumar,

> > Let me share what I know. Jupiter's conjunction with either of

the

> nodes can

> > cause Guru chandala yoga. The results could be ranging from

> cheating,

> > socially unethical activities to manushya hatya. Results can

lead

> to native

> > being cheated others or cheating others. Manushya hatya may

not

> always mean

> > native getting involved in such an activity, it may also show

the

> native

> > having to see such an act!

> > Cheating may involve Dharma, Father or Guru may be involved as

> Jupiter

> > represents dharma or Guru and Sun represents father. Sanjayji

> believes that

> > such a yoga impacts Sun too! Rahu apart from cheating also

stands

> for shock,

> > so the yoga can bring about shock. Placement of rahu will

> indicate the

> > source of such a shock, e.g. in 7H may show shock coming from

> spouse or

> > relationships and placement in lagna may shows native being

the

> source of

> > the same.

> > This yoga can also be formed through mutual aspects e.g.

> rashi/graha drishti

> > between Rahu and Jupiter. Usually strengthening or praying to

Sun

> is

> > recommended as when Jupiter (guru) is in difficulty Sun (king)

> comes to

> > rescue. With this I will leave it to others to contribute.

> > Best Wishes,

> > Ramesh

> >

> []

On

> > Behalf Of vedickumar

> > Friday, December 30, 2005 2:44 AM

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Guru Chandal yog

> >

> > Hello learned ones,

> >

> > Can anyone explain what are the effects of guru chandal yog

???

> >

> > DOes the conjunction of ketu with jupiter aspected by mars

also

> creates this

> > yog or only the conjunction with rahu.

> >

> > Can some one clarify?

> >

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> -~->

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

> > Links

> >

>

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Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that

the

human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading

today

Links

December 31, 2005

|| Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

Dear Vedickumar,

Moon as AK, KAY broken by Jupiter, malefic in 4H, likely to be cheated than

cheating others.

Best Wishes,

Ramesh

[] On

Behalf Of vedickumar

Saturday, December 31, 2005 1:32 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru Chandal yog

Many thanks rameshji,

Yes this chart has KAY and jupiter is conjunct ketu in 4th house

while mars is with venus in lagna.

There is very less data available on guru chandal yog Can you tell me that

due to GURU -CHANDAL yog will the person cheat others or be cheated .How can

this be determined???

If you would want birthdata then

date-28 october,1983

time--3.20 A.m

location---Thane,72e58,19n12

Regards

, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani"

<ramesh.gangaramani> wrote:

>

> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

>

> Dear Srinivas, Vedickumar,

> It was my understanding too, but then I think I heard a lecture by

Sanjayji,

> where while discussing a case he called Jup-Ketu combination too

as Guru

> Chandala yoga. It was a case of native getting cheated, in this

case more so

> because of malefic in 4H (kapata yoga). Guru Chandala yoga being

formed in

> 4H shows that cheating may be connected with matters connected

with 4H

> matters, like household property etc.

> 2 malefic planets in 3H can have an impact on health of younger

sibling.

> Looks like a Leo lagna and Mar 9L with Venus 10L makes a very

strong dharma

> karmadhipati yoga in Lagna. Venus 10L in lagna makes a simhasan

yoga and

> though afflicted by conjunction with Mars it is involved in

parivartana yoga

> with LL Sun. This parivarta yoga apart from other good things will

give him

> dhimanat yoga and make the native intelligent. Nasargika karka of

Venus,

> like relationship may get affected by conjunction with Sun during

specific

> dasa, 7L Saturn is also placed in 3H in an uncomfortable position

with Sun.

> Moon as AK makes a person very compassionate. Moon's placement in

7th from

> AL can give a lot of fame.

> Chart below is not so clear but looks like a Kala Amrita Yoga too,

depending

> on whether Jupiter is within the axis or outside. Jupiter either

way will

> help breaking it making it very beneficial eventually. 9L Mars in

Lagna and

> a possible KAY can lead the person in a very spiritual direction

eventually

> with a strong mission to do dharma related karma.

> Best Wishes,

> Ramesh

>

[] On

> Behalf Of Srinivas Vadhri

> Friday, December 30, 2005 3:12 PM

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Guru Chandal yog

>

> I thought Guru-Ketu yoga is good spiritually! where as, Guru-Rahu

is

> inauspicious and causes Guru Chandala yoga.

>

> , "vedickumar" <vedickumar>

> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks for clarifying rameshji

> >

> > Is this case of guru chandala yoga with ketu at 24.20 and jupiter

> at

> > 17.57 degrees .Also the moon is atmakarak.

> >

> > Rasi

> > +--------------+

> > | \ / \ / |

> > | \ / Ma \ / |

> > |Sa \ / \ / |

> > |Su Me x Md As Gk x HL Mo |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | / \ Ve / \ |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | / Ke \ 5 / \ |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | Ju x Ra |

> > | \ / \ / |

> > |AL x x |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | / GL \ / \ |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > +--------------+

> >

> > , "Ramesh F. Gangaramani"

> > <ramesh.gangaramani> wrote:

> > >

> > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> > >

> > > Dear Vedickumar,

> > > Let me share what I know. Jupiter's conjunction with either of

> the

> > nodes can

> > > cause Guru chandala yoga. The results could be ranging from

> > cheating,

> > > socially unethical activities to manushya hatya. Results can

> lead

> > to native

> > > being cheated others or cheating others. Manushya hatya may not

> > always mean

> > > native getting involved in such an activity, it may also show

> the

> > native

> > > having to see such an act!

> > > Cheating may involve Dharma, Father or Guru may be involved as

> > Jupiter

> > > represents dharma or Guru and Sun represents father. Sanjayji

> > believes that

> > > such a yoga impacts Sun too! Rahu apart from cheating also

> stands

> > for shock,

> > > so the yoga can bring about shock. Placement of rahu will

> > indicate the

> > > source of such a shock, e.g. in 7H may show shock coming from

> > spouse or

> > > relationships and placement in lagna may shows native being the

> > source of

> > > the same.

> > > This yoga can also be formed through mutual aspects e.g.

> > rashi/graha drishti

> > > between Rahu and Jupiter. Usually strengthening or praying to

> Sun

> > is

> > > recommended as when Jupiter (guru) is in difficulty Sun (king)

> > comes to

> > > rescue. With this I will leave it to others to contribute.

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Ramesh

> > >

> > [] On

> > > Behalf Of vedickumar

> > > Friday, December 30, 2005 2:44 AM

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Guru Chandal yog

> > >

> > > Hello learned ones,

> > >

> > > Can anyone explain what are the effects of guru chandal

yog ???

> > >

> > > DOes the conjunction of ketu with jupiter aspected by mars also

> > creates this

> > > yog or only the conjunction with rahu.

> > >

> > > Can some one clarify?

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December 31, 2005

|| Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

Dear Tarun,

Your chart shows spiritual inclination. You are likely to find some one with

similar interests. Possibility of involvement in foreign culture as Rahu is in

9H and 9L is in 12H. 7L Jupiter being retro may show late marriage.

Best Wishes,

Ramesh

[] On

Behalf Of ~Tarun~Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:25 AMTo:

Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Guru Chandal yog

Dear Ramesh ji,I am very grateful to you for providing me the readings. The

chart posted by you is very much correct.Right now i am not married but i had

an long term affair an yr before. which lasted for 2.5 yrs. Before that and

after that i didnt had any relationship in that matter.As my marriage lord or

7th lord is with ketu. Will it create some problems in my after marriage life.

or in marriage.or will the antar dasha of ketu after a few yrs will be some

problematic .Kindly Suggest me further.Thanks and Best RegardsTarun.Ramesh F.

Gangaramani wrote:

|| Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

Dear Tarun,

You do have Jupiter-Ketu conjunction in 3rd house. I cant figure out if the

matter of cheating had anything to do with 3rd house. Jupiter however is 7L.

Are you married? You have UL in 2nd from AL, showing native feeling neglected

by spouse, in worst case spouse leaving the native.

Your AK is also Moon, a compassionate person. Moon AK persons are tested with

married persons! They also often have to go through separation, short or long

term. You too have KAY again broken by Jupiter. Plus a pravarajya yoga formed

by Saturn and Moon aspecting AL by rashi drishti. Both lead to spiritual

inclinations. 2L placed in 12h may indicate charities. 12L in 11h may indicate

income from foreign sources.

Best Wishes,

Ramesh

[] On

Behalf Of ~Tarun~Friday, December 30, 2005 10:22 PMTo:

Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Guru Chandal yogDear

Ramesh jiI also have guru chandal yoga , where guru in conjuction with ketu.i

felt that while i am having Rahu antardasha , i got cheated in matter of