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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Dear Samir,

Namaskar. Please provide your birth data to me. Thanks.

Best Regards,

 

Sourav

==================================================

 

, Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...>

wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Guruji, Pranaam,

>

> I (perhaps fortunately) don't have any retrograde grahas in my

chart,

> apart from the nodes of course. And there is no link between the

> AK/dispositor and the 11th house. So presumably one would have to

> look elsewhere to find the atma-level desire that brought me to

Jyotisa.

>

> AK is strong in the 11th house in D-24 - which is the only link I

can

> find, there being none in the Rasi chart. Does this mean that I

may

> not become too attached to Jyotisa?

>

> Pranaam,

>

> Samir

>

>

>

> At 11:02 03/09/2005, you wrote:

> >||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >Dear Michal, Namaskar

> >Just keep in mind that there must be a desire on the atma-level.

> >In the example you cite of George Bush, i've heard rumors that he

> >does seek the help of astrologers.

> >In your chart there is not link between atmakaraka and the

eleventh

> >house/lord. However we are also taught that retrograde planets

carry

> >a very strong desire from past lives, i.e. on an atma level.

> >Normally a planets desire manifests on an intellectual (lagna)

and

> >mental (mana) level. Retrograde planets have a desire manifest on

a

> >soul level as well.

> >You will notice that Guru is eleventh lord in your chart and is

> >retrograde. Guru Mahadasa has been running since 2001.

> >Best wishes,

> >***

> >Visti Larsen

> >For services and articles visit:

> ><http://srigaruda.com>http://srigaruda.com or

> ><http://astrovisti.com>http://astrovisti.com

> >***

> >

> >----------

> >

> >[] On Behalf Of Michal

Dziwulski

> >03 September 2005 01:25

> >

> >RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti

Larsen

> >

> >Hare Rama Krsna::

> >

> >Dear Visti, Namaskar,

> >

> >Regarding the following:

> >

> > > Point is that for one to be interested in Jyotish

> > > there must be an

> > > atma-level sambandha. Without the atma there is no

> > > desire or ability to

> > > learn jyotish.

> >

> >Are there any other combinations for this? I found

> >that in all charts of great astrologers there was this

> >one combination you mention of Atmakaraka and eleventh

> >house in Rasi. There is no such combination in my own

> >chart, so where does my desire spring from? The other

> >point was that there are also many people with the

> >Atmakaraka in sambandha with eleventh house in Rasi

> >who have no faith, let alone desire, in Jyotish. So

> >how can we be sure? It seems that there is more to

> >it.

> >

> >Respectfully,

> >Michal.

> >

> >Om Namo Narayanaya::

> >

> >--- Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

> >

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Shruti, Namaskar.

> > >

> > > I've never heard of Jupiters placement in the eighth

> > > house giving an ability

> > > for Jyotish. I was taught quite differently in this

> > > regard. Also i don't

> > > remember seeing this placement in the charts of

> > > jyotishas.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Jupiters placement in the Siddhamsa (d24) will

> > > indicate how good you are at

> > > learning anything. Preferably Jupiter should be in a

> > > kendra or eleventh

> > > house, to ensure that the person is very receptive

> > > when learning.

> > >

> > > 1. Here the Lagna is intelligence or application of

> > > the same.

> > > 2. The fourth house is the reading of books and

> > > scriptures, in a formal

> > > scene.

> > > 3. The seventh house is the interaction with others

> > > and learning

> > > through discussions and interactions.

> > > 4. The tenth house is sight or visualizing the

> > > knowledge whilst it is

> > > taught.

> > > 5. Finally the eleventh house helps the person learn

> > > through hearing,

> > > i.e. perfect rememberance through hearing.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > But these can be good for anyone to learn, be it

> > > jyotish or chemistry.

> > >

> > > Point is that for one to be interested in Jyotish

> > > there must be an

> > > atma-level sambandha. Without the atma there is no

> > > desire or ability to

> > > learn jyotish. For this reason one combination which

> > > is always eulogized

> > > among sjc-members is; the Atmakaraka must associate

> > > with the eleventh house

> > > in Rasi.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In BV Ramans chart, the AK is chandra and is in

> > > mutual dristi with eleventh

> > > lord Guru and forming gajakesari yoga in the kendras

> > > for fame through

> > > jyotish.

> > >

> > > In KN Rao's chart, the AK is eleventh lord.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In Sanjay Rath's chart, his AK is in the eleventh

> > > house.

> > >

> > > In PVR Narasimha Rao's chart, AK is the eleventh

> > > lord.

> > >

> > > In my chart, the dispositor of AK is in the eleventh

> > > house.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Look for this simple, yet important combination

> > > first, or figure out how it

> > > is playing out in your chart. Then after seeing

> > > this, you can look for yogas

> > > for fame, or good predictions, etc.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > For services and articles visit:

> > >

> > > <<http://srigaruda.com>http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com or

> > > <<http://astrovisti.com>http://astrovisti.com>

> > > http://astrovisti.com

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

> > > [] On

> > > Behalf Of shrupata

> > > 02 September 2005 13:04

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Guru Visti Larsen,

> > >

> > > Can you please explain some points a

> > > person should have to

> > > show if they have the ability to learn Jyotish. Also

> > > in one email I

> > > read that Jupiter in the 8th house in D-24 would

> > > show ability for

> > > Jyotish. However, what if Jupiter was in Capricorn

> > > in the 8th house.

> > > It would be fallen in this position. Would this mean

> > > the person has

> > > no scope in Jyotish?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Shruti

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

> > > Ashram.

> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

> > > Rama Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> > > Great who said that the

> > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for

> > > animals.

> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

> > > free chart reading today

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > * Visit your group "

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> >

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> >

> >

> >~ om tat sat ~

> >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> >that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

> >

> >

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Dear members,

 

This line of thinking appears well founded. In one's own chart (11th

June, 1972; 10:17 AM; Cuttack, Orissa), the AK is in the 10th House

as the Lagna Lord and is placed with 6th and 7th Lord Shani and 12th

Lord exalted Chandra. The initial teachings were of comparative

mythology from a dead teacher called Joseph Campbell. It began to

transform my life.

 

The dispositor of the AK Sun is the 11th Lord, placed in the 11th

with Venus and Mars. There are heavy cross-cultural and Internet and

actual literature based teachings. All this is aspected by the Vakri

Guru from Dhanu in the 5th with Graha and Rashi Drishti.

 

Regards.

 

Anurag Sharma.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ajay and Sameer, Namaskar

>

> The nature of the planet in the eleventh house will show the

approach one

> has. One with Saturn there will be more focussed on the teachings

of the

> elders, and will not easily take on any modern research or

teachings.

>

> Surya does the opposite and tries to get knowledge from every

possible

> source.. focus is on understanding here.

>

> Mercury and Jupiter are more focussed on the learning they can get

from

> actual teachers, and here there is less application and more theory

and

> philosophy.

>

> This way you can differentiate between the planets.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> 03 September 2005 04:02

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti Larsen

>

>

>

> Dear Jyotisha, Pranaam

>

> In line with the current discussion and what sameer asked...

>

> My AK Venus is joined 11th lord Mercury in the fourth house of

education.

>

> What would be the influence of "Ketu" in 11th house.

>

> In navamsa I have "Ketu" in trine to AK which also form a yoga for

learning

> astrology.

>

> Should we take "Ketu" in 11th house as learning through highly

spiritual

> person?

>

> Also can it indicate the person in the sense that "Ketu" is

Gurudev's Lagan

> lord and involved in Kalaamrit yoga?

>

>

> Regards

>

>

> Ajay

>

>

> -

> "Michal Dziwulski" <nearmichal>

> <>

> Saturday, September 03, 2005 5:07 AM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti Larsen

>

>

> > Hare Rama Krsna::

> >

> > Dear Sameer, Namaskar,

> >

> > If i may just point out that the current President of

> > USA also has AK Venus in Lagna as well as being the

> > eleventh lord, and in turn aspecting its own house,

> > satisfying the criteria for learning Jyotish.

> >

> > BTW I have seen charts with Jupiter debilitated in

> > Navamsa give excellent results for spiritual and

> > scriptural learning, but only when in Kendras or

> > trines.

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Michal.

> >

> > Om Namo Narayanaya::

> >

> >

> >

> > --- sameer_sawhney <icecoolsam@v...> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Visti,Pranaam

> > >

> > > I have AK mercury with 11th lord Venus in lagna and

> > > both are

> > > aspecting 11th house. This satisfies the below

> > > mentioned atma-level

> > > sambandha in learning jyotish.

> > >

> > > I remember reading in your book that planets in 11th

> > > also indicate

> > > how does one learn,for example, saturn indicates

> > > learning through

> > > some tradition/parampara.

> > >

> > > I have Jupiter in 11th house, does it indicate

> > > learning through a

> > > Guru as Jupiter also happens to be 9th lord.

> > >

> > > The same jupiter is deblitated in Navamsa resulting

> > > in less/zero

> > > fortune through this.

> > >

> > > Is this correct assumtion ?

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Sameer

> > > , "Visti Larsen"

> > > <visti@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shruti, Namaskar.

> > > >

> > > > I've never heard of Jupiters placement in the

> > > eighth house giving

> > > an ability

> > > > for Jyotish. I was taught quite differently in

> > > this regard. Also i

> > > don't

> > > > remember seeing this placement in the charts of

> > > jyotishas.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Jupiters placement in the Siddhamsa (d24) will

> > > indicate how good

> > > you are at

> > > > learning anything. Preferably Jupiter should be in

> > > a kendra or

> > > eleventh

> > > > house, to ensure that the person is very receptive

> > > when learning.

> > > >

> > > > 1. Here the Lagna is intelligence or application

> > > of the same.

> > > > 2. The fourth house is the reading of books and

> > > scriptures, in a

> > > formal

> > > > scene.

> > > > 3. The seventh house is the interaction with

> > > others and learning

> > > > through discussions and interactions.

> > > > 4. The tenth house is sight or visualizing the

> > > knowledge whilst

> > > it is

> > > > taught.

> > > > 5. Finally the eleventh house helps the person

> > > learn through

> > > hearing,

> > > > i.e. perfect rememberance through hearing.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > But these can be good for anyone to learn, be it

> > > jyotish or

> > > chemistry.

> > > >

> > > > Point is that for one to be interested in Jyotish

> > > there must be an

> > > > atma-level sambandha. Without the atma there is no

> > > desire or

> > > ability to

> > > > learn jyotish. For this reason one combination

> > > which is always

> > > eulogized

> > > > among sjc-members is; the Atmakaraka must

> > > associate with the

> > > eleventh house

> > > > in Rasi.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In BV Ramans chart, the AK is chandra and is in

> > > mutual dristi with

> > > eleventh

> > > > lord Guru and forming gajakesari yoga in the

> > > kendras for fame

> > > through

> > > > jyotish.

> > > >

> > > > In KN Rao's chart, the AK is eleventh lord.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In Sanjay Rath's chart, his AK is in the eleventh

> > > house.

> > > >

> > > > In PVR Narasimha Rao's chart, AK is the eleventh

> > > lord.

> > > >

> > > > In my chart, the dispositor of AK is in the

> > > eleventh house.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Look for this simple, yet important combination

> > > first, or figure

> > > out how it

> > > > is playing out in your chart. Then after seeing

> > > this, you can look

> > > for yogas

> > > > for fame, or good predictions, etc.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > >

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > > http://astrovisti.com

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > >

> > > [] On

> > > > Behalf Of shrupata

> > > > 02 September 2005 13:04

> > > >

> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to

> > > Guru Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Guru Visti Larsen,

> > > >

> > > > Can you please explain some points a

> > > person should have

> > > to

> > > > show if they have the ability to learn Jyotish.

> > > Also in one email I

> > > > read that Jupiter in the 8th house in D-24 would

> > > show ability for

> > > > Jyotish. However, what if Jupiter was in Capricorn

> > > in the 8th

> > > house.

> > > > It would be fallen in this position. Would this

> > > mean the person has

> > > > no scope in Jyotish?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Shruti

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

> > > Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

> > > Rama Krishna'

> > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> > > Great who said

> > > that the

> > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for

> > > animals.

> > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

> > > free chart

> > > reading today

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > * Visit your group "

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> > > the web.

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> > > > * To from this group, send an email

> > > to:

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> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

> > Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

>

>

>

>

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Dear Sharma-ji,

Namaskar. My comments about AK/Combustion/Marriage as

per your chart is written as below. You are a very good astrologer

yourself. Perhaps you will know better.

 

Sun is the giver of everything. If Sun is atmakaraka, pride (being

the giver of everything) is what the native need to be cautious

about. Sun is also Lagnesha and in the throne (10H) hence this is

perhaps the most important lesson in Sun AK native. How to do it ?

by identifying with the fact that one is a part of everything else.

Hence, truely there is no giving or taking, truely speaking.

 

Grahas combust with Sun shows areas of life deprived so that lessons

are taught. Sun being AK there could be pride in relation to those

planets associating with the Sun. Close combustion enhances that

effect.

 

Sun being in Bhrastaamsa in D-60 increases this effect as Bhrashta

means that in past life the native has not been able to learn this

lesson and hence must to this in this life or next life.

 

Now permit me to come to the question of your being single as yet.

 

Cons: UL in 8H - difficulties in marriage.

Sa is 11L with Sun (arch enemy) but the conjuction is not

close (9 deg).

Sa is afflicted by 12L and dire malefic Mo.

Ve, karaka of marriage is with Ma giving a good DKY but also

at the same time Ma is badhakesha, indicating delay if not denia.

Ve is afflicted by aspect of 8L Ju

Ve is debilitated by presence of Me in its own house.

Ve is dispositor of 7L and conjoins A8.

 

Pros: UL-lord Ju is in strength and is aspected by Ve (karaka for

marriage) and dharmadhipati Ma which is significant.

2nd from UL is 9H and its lord is aspecting UL.

7th Lord in Navamsa is aspecting own house from Lagna.

Exalted Ju is aspecting 7H. But Ju is in maranakaraka sthana.

In Navamsa, Ve is Lagnesha and is aspected by yogakaraka and

Rasi 7L, Saturn.

Sa conjoins UL in Navamsa.

 

I think, there are marked difficulties in getting married (likely

due to Natives own views about that) but definitely there is a

possibility for marriage. Sa usually gives late marriage.

 

I haven't had a chance to look into the dasas yet.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sourav

================================================================

 

 

 

, "anuraagsharma27"

<anuraagsharma27@h...> wrote:

> Dear members,

>

> This line of thinking appears well founded. In one's own chart

(11th

> June, 1972; 10:17 AM; Cuttack, Orissa), the AK is in the 10th

House

> as the Lagna Lord and is placed with 6th and 7th Lord Shani and

12th

> Lord exalted Chandra. The initial teachings were of comparative

> mythology from a dead teacher called Joseph Campbell. It began to

> transform my life.

>

> The dispositor of the AK Sun is the 11th Lord, placed in the 11th

> with Venus and Mars. There are heavy cross-cultural and Internet

and

> actual literature based teachings. All this is aspected by the

Vakri

> Guru from Dhanu in the 5th with Graha and Rashi Drishti.

>

> Regards.

>

> Anurag Sharma.

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Ajay and Sameer, Namaskar

> >

> > The nature of the planet in the eleventh house will show the

> approach one

> > has. One with Saturn there will be more focussed on the

teachings

> of the

> > elders, and will not easily take on any modern research or

> teachings.

> >

> > Surya does the opposite and tries to get knowledge from every

> possible

> > source.. focus is on understanding here.

> >

> > Mercury and Jupiter are more focussed on the learning they can

get

> from

> > actual teachers, and here there is less application and more

theory

> and

> > philosophy.

> >

> > This way you can differentiate between the planets.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > For services and articles visit:

> >

> > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> <http://astrovisti.com>

> > http://astrovisti.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> > 03 September 2005 04:02

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti

Larsen

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Jyotisha, Pranaam

> >

> > In line with the current discussion and what sameer asked...

> >

> > My AK Venus is joined 11th lord Mercury in the fourth house of

> education.

> >

> > What would be the influence of "Ketu" in 11th house.

> >

> > In navamsa I have "Ketu" in trine to AK which also form a yoga

for

> learning

> > astrology.

> >

> > Should we take "Ketu" in 11th house as learning through highly

> spiritual

> > person?

> >

> > Also can it indicate the person in the sense that "Ketu" is

> Gurudev's Lagan

> > lord and involved in Kalaamrit yoga?

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> > Ajay

> >

> >

> > -

> > "Michal Dziwulski" <nearmichal>

> > <>

> > Saturday, September 03, 2005 5:07 AM

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti

Larsen

> >

> >

> > > Hare Rama Krsna::

> > >

> > > Dear Sameer, Namaskar,

> > >

> > > If i may just point out that the current President of

> > > USA also has AK Venus in Lagna as well as being the

> > > eleventh lord, and in turn aspecting its own house,

> > > satisfying the criteria for learning Jyotish.

> > >

> > > BTW I have seen charts with Jupiter debilitated in

> > > Navamsa give excellent results for spiritual and

> > > scriptural learning, but only when in Kendras or

> > > trines.

> > >

> > > Respectfully,

> > > Michal.

> > >

> > > Om Namo Narayanaya::

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- sameer_sawhney <icecoolsam@v...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Visti,Pranaam

> > > >

> > > > I have AK mercury with 11th lord Venus in lagna and

> > > > both are

> > > > aspecting 11th house. This satisfies the below

> > > > mentioned atma-level

> > > > sambandha in learning jyotish.

> > > >

> > > > I remember reading in your book that planets in 11th

> > > > also indicate

> > > > how does one learn,for example, saturn indicates

> > > > learning through

> > > > some tradition/parampara.

> > > >

> > > > I have Jupiter in 11th house, does it indicate

> > > > learning through a

> > > > Guru as Jupiter also happens to be 9th lord.

> > > >

> > > > The same jupiter is deblitated in Navamsa resulting

> > > > in less/zero

> > > > fortune through this.

> > > >

> > > > Is this correct assumtion ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Sameer

> > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> > > > <visti@s...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Shruti, Namaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > I've never heard of Jupiters placement in the

> > > > eighth house giving

> > > > an ability

> > > > > for Jyotish. I was taught quite differently in

> > > > this regard. Also i

> > > > don't

> > > > > remember seeing this placement in the charts of

> > > > jyotishas.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Jupiters placement in the Siddhamsa (d24) will

> > > > indicate how good

> > > > you are at

> > > > > learning anything. Preferably Jupiter should be in

> > > > a kendra or

> > > > eleventh

> > > > > house, to ensure that the person is very receptive

> > > > when learning.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Here the Lagna is intelligence or application

> > > > of the same.

> > > > > 2. The fourth house is the reading of books and

> > > > scriptures, in a

> > > > formal

> > > > > scene.

> > > > > 3. The seventh house is the interaction with

> > > > others and learning

> > > > > through discussions and interactions.

> > > > > 4. The tenth house is sight or visualizing the

> > > > knowledge whilst

> > > > it is

> > > > > taught.

> > > > > 5. Finally the eleventh house helps the person

> > > > learn through

> > > > hearing,

> > > > > i.e. perfect rememberance through hearing.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > But these can be good for anyone to learn, be it

> > > > jyotish or

> > > > chemistry.

> > > > >

> > > > > Point is that for one to be interested in Jyotish

> > > > there must be an

> > > > > atma-level sambandha. Without the atma there is no

> > > > desire or

> > > > ability to

> > > > > learn jyotish. For this reason one combination

> > > > which is always

> > > > eulogized

> > > > > among sjc-members is; the Atmakaraka must

> > > > associate with the

> > > > eleventh house

> > > > > in Rasi.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > In BV Ramans chart, the AK is chandra and is in

> > > > mutual dristi with

> > > > eleventh

> > > > > lord Guru and forming gajakesari yoga in the

> > > > kendras for fame

> > > > through

> > > > > jyotish.

> > > > >

> > > > > In KN Rao's chart, the AK is eleventh lord.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > In Sanjay Rath's chart, his AK is in the eleventh

> > > > house.

> > > > >

> > > > > In PVR Narasimha Rao's chart, AK is the eleventh

> > > > lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > In my chart, the dispositor of AK is in the

> > > > eleventh house.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Look for this simple, yet important combination

> > > > first, or figure

> > > > out how it

> > > > > is playing out in your chart. Then after seeing

> > > > this, you can look

> > > > for yogas

> > > > > for fame, or good predictions, etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > ***

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > >

> > > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > > >

> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > > > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > > > http://astrovisti.com

> > > > >

> > > > > ***

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > [] On

> > > > > Behalf Of shrupata

> > > > > 02 September 2005 13:04

> > > > >

> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to

> > > > Guru Visti Larsen

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Guru Visti Larsen,

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you please explain some points a

> > > > person should have

> > > > to

> > > > > show if they have the ability to learn Jyotish.

> > > > Also in one email I

> > > > > read that Jupiter in the 8th house in D-24 would

> > > > show ability for

> > > > > Jyotish. However, what if Jupiter was in Capricorn

> > > > in the 8th

> > > > house.

> > > > > It would be fallen in this position. Would this

> > > > mean the person has

> > > > > no scope in Jyotish?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Shruti

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

> > > > Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

> > > > Rama Krishna'

> > > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> > > > Great who said

> > > > that the

> > > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for

> > > > animals.

> > > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

> > > > free chart

> > > > reading today

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > * Visit your group "

> > > > > <> " on

> > > > the web.

> > > > >

> > > > > * To from this group, send an email

> > > > to:

> > > >

> > > === message truncated ===

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

> > > Links

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > * Visit your group "

> > <> " on the web.

> >

> > *

> >

> > <?

> subject=Un>

> >

> > *

> > <> Terms of Service.

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

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Dear Sourav, Namaskar

What range do you/Narasimhaji use for the combustion of Saturn? I

thought is was 15 degrees (taking into account latitude also of course) -

but Jagannatha Hora doesn't think Saturn is combust in this case (I get a

separation of around 10 degrees when taking latitude into account

also).

Another thing that may be relevant here is that the Amavasya dosha is

compounded by a Matri Shaapa. Rahu and Saturn lord the 7th house so

there will no doubt be shock/sorrow coming from there.

Warm regards,

Samir

At 18:22 09/09/2005, you wrote:

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Sharma-ji,

Namaskar. My comments about AK/Combustion/Marriage as

per your chart is written as below. You are a very good astrologer

yourself. Perhaps you will know better.

Sun is the giver of everything. If Sun is atmakaraka, pride (being

the giver of everything) is what the native need to be cautious

about. Sun is also Lagnesha and in the throne (10H) hence this is

perhaps the most important lesson in Sun AK native. How to do it ?

by identifying with the fact that one is a part of everything else.

Hence, truely there is no giving or taking, truely speaking.

Grahas combust with Sun shows areas of life deprived so that lessons

are taught. Sun being AK there could be pride in relation to those

planets associating with the Sun. Close combustion enhances that

effect.

Sun being in Bhrastaamsa in D-60 increases this effect as Bhrashta

means that in past life the native has not been able to learn this

lesson and hence must to this in this life or next life.

Now permit me to come to the question of your being single as

yet.

Cons: UL in 8H - difficulties in marriage.

Sa is 11L with Sun (arch enemy) but the

conjuction is not

close (9 deg).

Sa is afflicted by 12L and dire malefic

Mo.

Ve, karaka of marriage is with Ma giving a

good DKY but also

at the same time Ma is badhakesha, indicating delay if not denia.

Ve is afflicted by aspect of 8L Ju

Ve is debilitated by presence of Me in its

own house.

Ve is dispositor of 7L and conjoins

A8.

Pros: UL-lord Ju is in strength and is aspected by Ve (karaka for

marriage) and dharmadhipati Ma which is significant.

2nd from UL is 9H and its lord is

aspecting UL.

7th Lord in Navamsa is aspecting own house

from Lagna.

Exalted Ju is aspecting 7H. But Ju is in

maranakaraka sthana.

In Navamsa, Ve is Lagnesha and is aspected

by yogakaraka and

Rasi 7L, Saturn.

Sa conjoins UL in Navamsa.

I think, there are marked difficulties in getting married (likely

due to Natives own views about that) but definitely there is a

possibility for marriage. Sa usually gives late marriage.

I haven't had a chance to look into the dasas yet.

Best Regards,

Sourav

================================================================

, "anuraagsharma27"

<anuraagsharma27@h...> wrote:

> Dear members,

>

> This line of thinking appears well founded. In one's own chart

(11th

> June, 1972; 10:17 AM; Cuttack, Orissa), the AK is in the 10th

House

> as the Lagna Lord and is placed with 6th and 7th Lord Shani and

12th

> Lord exalted Chandra. The initial teachings were of comparative

> mythology from a dead teacher called Joseph Campbell. It began to

> transform my life.

>

> The dispositor of the AK Sun is the 11th Lord, placed in the 11th

> with Venus and Mars. There are heavy cross-cultural and Internet

and

> actual literature based teachings. All this is aspected by the

Vakri

> Guru from Dhanu in the 5th with Graha and Rashi Drishti.

>

> Regards.

>

> Anurag Sharma.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> , "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Ajay and Sameer, Namaskar

> >

> > The nature of the planet in the eleventh house will show the

> approach one

> > has. One with Saturn there will be more focussed on the

teachings

> of the

> > elders, and will not easily take on any modern research or

> teachings.

> >

> > Surya does the opposite and tries to get knowledge from every

> possible

> > source.. focus is on understanding here.

> >

> > Mercury and Jupiter are more focussed on the learning they can

get

> from

> > actual teachers, and here there is less application and more

theory

> and

> > philosophy.

> >

> > This way you can differentiate between the planets.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > For services and articles visit:

> >

> >

<

http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com

or

>

<

http://astrovisti.com>

> >

http://astrovisti.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

>

[

] On

> > Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> > 03 September 2005 04:02

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti

Larsen

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Jyotisha, Pranaam

> >

> > In line with the current discussion and what sameer

asked...

> >

> > My AK Venus is joined 11th lord Mercury in the fourth house of

> education.

> >

> > What would be the influence of "Ketu" in 11th

house.

> >

> > In navamsa I have "Ketu" in trine to AK which also

form a yoga

for

> learning

> > astrology.

> >

> > Should we take "Ketu" in 11th house as learning

through highly

> spiritual

> > person?

> >

> > Also can it indicate the person in the sense that

"Ketu" is

> Gurudev's Lagan

> > lord and involved in Kalaamrit yoga?

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> > Ajay

> >

> >

> > -

> > "Michal Dziwulski" <nearmichal>

> > <>

> > Saturday, September 03, 2005 5:07 AM

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti

Larsen

> >

> >

> > > Hare Rama Krsna::

> > >

> > > Dear Sameer, Namaskar,

> > >

> > > If i may just point out that the current President of

> > > USA also has AK Venus in Lagna as well as being the

> > > eleventh lord, and in turn aspecting its own house,

> > > satisfying the criteria for learning Jyotish.

> > >

> > > BTW I have seen charts with Jupiter debilitated in

> > > Navamsa give excellent results for spiritual and

> > > scriptural learning, but only when in Kendras or

> > > trines.

> > >

> > > Respectfully,

> > > Michal.

> > >

> > > Om Namo Narayanaya::

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- sameer_sawhney <icecoolsam@v...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Visti,Pranaam

> > > >

> > > > I have AK mercury with 11th lord Venus in lagna

and

> > > > both are

> > > > aspecting 11th house. This satisfies the below

> > > > mentioned atma-level

> > > > sambandha in learning jyotish.

> > > >

> > > > I remember reading in your book that planets in

11th

> > > > also indicate

> > > > how does one learn,for example, saturn indicates

> > > > learning through

> > > > some tradition/parampara.

> > > >

> > > > I have Jupiter in 11th house, does it indicate

> > > > learning through a

> > > > Guru as Jupiter also happens to be 9th lord.

> > > >

> > > > The same jupiter is deblitated in Navamsa

resulting

> > > > in less/zero

> > > > fortune through this.

> > > >

> > > > Is this correct assumtion ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Sameer

> > > > , "Visti

Larsen"

> > > > <visti@s...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Shruti, Namaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > I've never heard of Jupiters placement in

the

> > > > eighth house giving

> > > > an ability

> > > > > for Jyotish. I was taught quite differently

in

> > > > this regard. Also i

> > > > don't

> > > > > remember seeing this placement in the charts

of

> > > > jyotishas.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Jupiters placement in the Siddhamsa (d24)

will

> > > > indicate how good

> > > > you are at

> > > > > learning anything. Preferably Jupiter should be

in

> > > > a kendra or

> > > > eleventh

> > > > > house, to ensure that the person is very

receptive

> > > > when learning.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Here the Lagna is intelligence or

application

> > > > of the same.

> > > > > 2. The fourth house is the reading of books

and

> > > > scriptures, in a

> > > > formal

> > > > > scene.

> > > > > 3. The seventh house is the interaction

with

> > > > others and learning

> > > > > through discussions and interactions.

> > > > > 4. The tenth house is sight or visualizing

the

> > > > knowledge whilst

> > > > it is

> > > > > taught.

> > > > > 5. Finally the eleventh house helps the

person

> > > > learn through

> > > > hearing,

> > > > > i.e. perfect rememberance through hearing.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > But these can be good for anyone to learn, be

it

> > > > jyotish or

> > > > chemistry.

> > > > >

> > > > > Point is that for one to be interested in

Jyotish

> > > > there must be an

> > > > > atma-level sambandha. Without the atma there is

no

> > > > desire or

> > > > ability to

> > > > > learn jyotish. For this reason one

combination

> > > > which is always

> > > > eulogized

> > > > > among sjc-members is; the Atmakaraka must

> > > > associate with the

> > > > eleventh house

> > > > > in Rasi.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > In BV Ramans chart, the AK is chandra and is

in

> > > > mutual dristi with

> > > > eleventh

> > > > > lord Guru and forming gajakesari yoga in

the

> > > > kendras for fame

> > > > through

> > > > > jyotish.

> > > > >

> > > > > In KN Rao's chart, the AK is eleventh lord.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > In Sanjay Rath's chart, his AK is in the

eleventh

> > > > house.

> > > > >

> > > > > In PVR Narasimha Rao's chart, AK is the

eleventh

> > > > lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > In my chart, the dispositor of AK is in the

> > > > eleventh house.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Look for this simple, yet important

combination

> > > > first, or figure

> > > > out how it

> > > > > is playing out in your chart. Then after

seeing

> > > > this, you can look

> > > > for yogas

> > > > > for fame, or good predictions, etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > ***

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > >

> > > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > > >

> > > > >

<

http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com

or

> > > >

<

http://astrovisti.com>

> > > > >

http://astrovisti.com

> > > > >

> > > > > ***

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

[

] On

> > > > > Behalf Of shrupata

> > > > > 02 September 2005 13:04

> > > > >

> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish

to

> > > > Guru Visti Larsen

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Guru Visti Larsen,

> > > > >

> > > >

>

Can you please explain some points a

> > > > person should have

> > > > to

> > > > > show if they have the ability to learn

Jyotish.

> > > > Also in one email I

> > > > > read that Jupiter in the 8th house in D-24

would

> > > > show ability for

> > > > > Jyotish. However, what if Jupiter was in

Capricorn

> > > > in the 8th

> > > > house.

> > > > > It would be fallen in this position. Would

this

> > > > mean the person has

> > > > > no scope in Jyotish?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Shruti

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of

the

> > > > Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra

'Hare

> > > > Rama Krishna'

> > > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar

the

> > > > Great who said

> > > > that the

> > > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard

for

> > > > animals.

> > > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do

one

> > > > free chart

> > > > reading today

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > * Visit your group "

> > > > >

<

> " on

> > > > the web.

> > > > >

> > > > > * To from this group, send an

email

> > > > to:

> > > >

> > > === message truncated ===

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

protection around

> > >

 

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

Ashram.

> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great

who

said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free

chart

> reading today

> > > Links

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Saurav,

 

Thank you for your learned views. I think they explore the features

quite well. Why do you say that Shani is the 11th Lord? From the UL?

 

I agree with your statements about Surya and perhaps there has been

some advancement or there might be possibilities in understanding the

tru nature of being with Ketu in the 12th from Karakamsha and in the

12th in Rashi.

 

With Lord of UL in the 5th from Lagna and UL being in the 8th; Shani

being in the 2nd House in UL in Navamsha and the 2nd Lord Budh being

in the 7th, do you think there could be a Karmic bond (retrograde

Jupiter in Sagittarius) in matters of affection (5th House) in

marriage and that this could involve someone already married earlier

with the involvement of the 2nd and 8th Houses in Rashi and Navamsha

Chakra?

 

About Guru's Maran Karaka Sthana in Navamsha, unless I am mistaken,

Sanjay Ji stated that MKS placements of Grahas are to be seen in

Rashi with the Karakas seen in the Varga charts: for example in

Navamsha, Venus's MKS would be significant, in Dashamsha, Mercury's

MKS would be significant. If I am in error I stand to be corrected

from this.

 

Also would you think that the relative strength of the UL Lord in

Rashi and Navamsha would mean that the spouse might be of a higher

status, also in view of the Gajkesari Yoga in the 3rd Bhava in

Navamsha?

 

I am in Guru-Shukra now with Kanya Narayan Dasha, 7th from the UL.

Guru would aspect the 2nd from the UL by Rashi Drishti after the

autumn of 2006, so perhaps that might be a possible time for this

bewildering event to come around?

 

I think that the difficulties in this event fructifying are due to

the Punarbhu Yoga brought to light by Mu'min Bey on the Vedic

Astrology list which Sanjay Ji affirmed where if Shani and Moon are

related, and one of them has something to do with the 7th House, one

of the partners gets cold feet about marriage even though everything

else may be completely in order. Of course Shani-Chandra is a suo-

moto Rajayoga in the 4th, 10th and 11th Houses, indicating some

delayed fructification of cherished desires, after pressures.

 

Many thanks and I look forward to your view on the areas mentioned.

 

Anurag Sharma.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "Sourav Chowdhury"

<souravc108> wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Sharma-ji,

> Namaskar. My comments about AK/Combustion/Marriage

as

> per your chart is written as below. You are a very good astrologer

> yourself. Perhaps you will know better.

>

> Sun is the giver of everything. If Sun is atmakaraka, pride (being

> the giver of everything) is what the native need to be cautious

> about. Sun is also Lagnesha and in the throne (10H) hence this is

> perhaps the most important lesson in Sun AK native. How to do it ?

> by identifying with the fact that one is a part of everything else.

> Hence, truely there is no giving or taking, truely speaking.

>

> Grahas combust with Sun shows areas of life deprived so that

lessons

> are taught. Sun being AK there could be pride in relation to those

> planets associating with the Sun. Close combustion enhances that

> effect.

>

> Sun being in Bhrastaamsa in D-60 increases this effect as Bhrashta

> means that in past life the native has not been able to learn this

> lesson and hence must to this in this life or next life.

>

> Now permit me to come to the question of your being single as yet.

>

> Cons: UL in 8H - difficulties in marriage.

> Sa is 11L with Sun (arch enemy) but the conjuction is not

> close (9 deg).

> Sa is afflicted by 12L and dire malefic Mo.

> Ve, karaka of marriage is with Ma giving a good DKY but also

> at the same time Ma is badhakesha, indicating delay if not denia.

> Ve is afflicted by aspect of 8L Ju

> Ve is debilitated by presence of Me in its own house.

> Ve is dispositor of 7L and conjoins A8.

>

> Pros: UL-lord Ju is in strength and is aspected by Ve (karaka for

> marriage) and dharmadhipati Ma which is significant.

> 2nd from UL is 9H and its lord is aspecting UL.

> 7th Lord in Navamsa is aspecting own house from Lagna.

> Exalted Ju is aspecting 7H. But Ju is in maranakaraka sthana.

> In Navamsa, Ve is Lagnesha and is aspected by yogakaraka and

> Rasi 7L, Saturn.

> Sa conjoins UL in Navamsa.

>

> I think, there are marked difficulties in getting married (likely

> due to Natives own views about that) but definitely there is a

> possibility for marriage. Sa usually gives late marriage.

>

> I haven't had a chance to look into the dasas yet.

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Sourav

> ================================================================

>

>

>

> , "anuraagsharma27"

> <anuraagsharma27@h...> wrote:

> > Dear members,

> >

> > This line of thinking appears well founded. In one's own chart

> (11th

> > June, 1972; 10:17 AM; Cuttack, Orissa), the AK is in the 10th

> House

> > as the Lagna Lord and is placed with 6th and 7th Lord Shani and

> 12th

> > Lord exalted Chandra. The initial teachings were of comparative

> > mythology from a dead teacher called Joseph Campbell. It began to

> > transform my life.

> >

> > The dispositor of the AK Sun is the 11th Lord, placed in the 11th

> > with Venus and Mars. There are heavy cross-cultural and Internet

> and

> > actual literature based teachings. All this is aspected by the

> Vakri

> > Guru from Dhanu in the 5th with Graha and Rashi Drishti.

> >

> > Regards.

> >

> > Anurag Sharma.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Ajay and Sameer, Namaskar

> > >

> > > The nature of the planet in the eleventh house will show the

> > approach one

> > > has. One with Saturn there will be more focussed on the

> teachings

> > of the

> > > elders, and will not easily take on any modern research or

> > teachings.

> > >

> > > Surya does the opposite and tries to get knowledge from every

> > possible

> > > source.. focus is on understanding here.

> > >

> > > Mercury and Jupiter are more focussed on the learning they can

> get

> > from

> > > actual teachers, and here there is less application and more

> theory

> > and

> > > philosophy.

> > >

> > > This way you can differentiate between the planets.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > For services and articles visit:

> > >

> > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > http://astrovisti.com

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

> > [] On

> > > Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> > > 03 September 2005 04:02

> > >

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti

> Larsen

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Jyotisha, Pranaam

> > >

> > > In line with the current discussion and what sameer asked...

> > >

> > > My AK Venus is joined 11th lord Mercury in the fourth house of

> > education.

> > >

> > > What would be the influence of "Ketu" in 11th house.

> > >

> > > In navamsa I have "Ketu" in trine to AK which also form a yoga

> for

> > learning

> > > astrology.

> > >

> > > Should we take "Ketu" in 11th house as learning through highly

> > spiritual

> > > person?

> > >

> > > Also can it indicate the person in the sense that "Ketu" is

> > Gurudev's Lagan

> > > lord and involved in Kalaamrit yoga?

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > >

> > > Ajay

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > "Michal Dziwulski" <nearmichal>

> > > <>

> > > Saturday, September 03, 2005 5:07 AM

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti

> Larsen

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krsna::

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sameer, Namaskar,

> > > >

> > > > If i may just point out that the current President of

> > > > USA also has AK Venus in Lagna as well as being the

> > > > eleventh lord, and in turn aspecting its own house,

> > > > satisfying the criteria for learning Jyotish.

> > > >

> > > > BTW I have seen charts with Jupiter debilitated in

> > > > Navamsa give excellent results for spiritual and

> > > > scriptural learning, but only when in Kendras or

> > > > trines.

> > > >

> > > > Respectfully,

> > > > Michal.

> > > >

> > > > Om Namo Narayanaya::

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- sameer_sawhney <icecoolsam@v...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Visti,Pranaam

> > > > >

> > > > > I have AK mercury with 11th lord Venus in lagna and

> > > > > both are

> > > > > aspecting 11th house. This satisfies the below

> > > > > mentioned atma-level

> > > > > sambandha in learning jyotish.

> > > > >

> > > > > I remember reading in your book that planets in 11th

> > > > > also indicate

> > > > > how does one learn,for example, saturn indicates

> > > > > learning through

> > > > > some tradition/parampara.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have Jupiter in 11th house, does it indicate

> > > > > learning through a

> > > > > Guru as Jupiter also happens to be 9th lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > The same jupiter is deblitated in Navamsa resulting

> > > > > in less/zero

> > > > > fortune through this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Is this correct assumtion ?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Sameer

> > > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> > > > > <visti@s...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Shruti, Namaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I've never heard of Jupiters placement in the

> > > > > eighth house giving

> > > > > an ability

> > > > > > for Jyotish. I was taught quite differently in

> > > > > this regard. Also i

> > > > > don't

> > > > > > remember seeing this placement in the charts of

> > > > > jyotishas.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jupiters placement in the Siddhamsa (d24) will

> > > > > indicate how good

> > > > > you are at

> > > > > > learning anything. Preferably Jupiter should be in

> > > > > a kendra or

> > > > > eleventh

> > > > > > house, to ensure that the person is very receptive

> > > > > when learning.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Here the Lagna is intelligence or application

> > > > > of the same.

> > > > > > 2. The fourth house is the reading of books and

> > > > > scriptures, in a

> > > > > formal

> > > > > > scene.

> > > > > > 3. The seventh house is the interaction with

> > > > > others and learning

> > > > > > through discussions and interactions.

> > > > > > 4. The tenth house is sight or visualizing the

> > > > > knowledge whilst

> > > > > it is

> > > > > > taught.

> > > > > > 5. Finally the eleventh house helps the person

> > > > > learn through

> > > > > hearing,

> > > > > > i.e. perfect rememberance through hearing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But these can be good for anyone to learn, be it

> > > > > jyotish or

> > > > > chemistry.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Point is that for one to be interested in Jyotish

> > > > > there must be an

> > > > > > atma-level sambandha. Without the atma there is no

> > > > > desire or

> > > > > ability to

> > > > > > learn jyotish. For this reason one combination

> > > > > which is always

> > > > > eulogized

> > > > > > among sjc-members is; the Atmakaraka must

> > > > > associate with the

> > > > > eleventh house

> > > > > > in Rasi.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In BV Ramans chart, the AK is chandra and is in

> > > > > mutual dristi with

> > > > > eleventh

> > > > > > lord Guru and forming gajakesari yoga in the

> > > > > kendras for fame

> > > > > through

> > > > > > jyotish.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In KN Rao's chart, the AK is eleventh lord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In Sanjay Rath's chart, his AK is in the eleventh

> > > > > house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In PVR Narasimha Rao's chart, AK is the eleventh

> > > > > lord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In my chart, the dispositor of AK is in the

> > > > > eleventh house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Look for this simple, yet important combination

> > > > > first, or figure

> > > > > out how it

> > > > > > is playing out in your chart. Then after seeing

> > > > > this, you can look

> > > > > for yogas

> > > > > > for fame, or good predictions, etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ***

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > > > > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > > > > http://astrovisti.com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ***

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> > > > > > _____

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> > > > > >

> > > > > [] On

> > > > > > Behalf Of shrupata

> > > > > > 02 September 2005 13:04

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to

> > > > > Guru Visti Larsen

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Guru Visti Larsen,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can you please explain some points a

> > > > > person should have

> > > > > to

> > > > > > show if they have the ability to learn Jyotish.

> > > > > Also in one email I

> > > > > > read that Jupiter in the 8th house in D-24 would

> > > > > show ability for

> > > > > > Jyotish. However, what if Jupiter was in Capricorn

> > > > > in the 8th

> > > > > house.

> > > > > > It would be fallen in this position. Would this

> > > > > mean the person has

> > > > > > no scope in Jyotish?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Shruti

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Dear Samir,

Namaskar. I am not sure what is programmed in JHora. I

consider 3 deg. to be close combustion and can severely affect the

planet's significances. Otherwise, the planet's significance is

lessened but not completely annuled. Remember that planets in their

direct motion when approaching Su are Combust. Only exception is

Venus.

 

I will ask Narasimha-ji about the degrees.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sourav

====================================================================

 

 

, Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...>

wrote:

> || Hare Räma Kåñëa ||

>

> Dear Sourav, Namaskar

>

> What range do you/Narasimhaji use for the

> combustion of Saturn? I thought is was 15

> degrees (taking into account latitude also of

> course) - but Jagannatha Hora doesn't think

> Saturn is combust in this case (I get a

> separation of around 10 degrees when taking latitude into account

also).

>

> Another thing that may be relevant here is that

> the Amavasya dosha is compounded by a Matri

> Shaapa. Rahu and Saturn lord the 7th house so

> there will no doubt be shock/sorrow coming from there.

>

> Warm regards,

>

> Samir

>

>

>

> At 18:22 09/09/2005, you wrote:

> >|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> >Dear Sharma-ji,

> > Namaskar. My comments about

AK/Combustion/Marriage as

> >per your chart is written as below. You are a very good astrologer

> >yourself. Perhaps you will know better.

> >

> >Sun is the giver of everything. If Sun is atmakaraka, pride (being

> >the giver of everything) is what the native need to be cautious

> >about. Sun is also Lagnesha and in the throne (10H) hence this is

> >perhaps the most important lesson in Sun AK native. How to do it ?

> >by identifying with the fact that one is a part of everything

else.

> >Hence, truely there is no giving or taking, truely speaking.

> >

> >Grahas combust with Sun shows areas of life deprived so that

lessons

> >are taught. Sun being AK there could be pride in relation to those

> >planets associating with the Sun. Close combustion enhances that

> >effect.

> >

> >Sun being in Bhrastaamsa in D-60 increases this effect as Bhrashta

> >means that in past life the native has not been able to learn this

> >lesson and hence must to this in this life or next life.

> >

> >Now permit me to come to the question of your being single as yet.

> >

> >Cons: UL in 8H - difficulties in marriage.

> > Sa is 11L with Sun (arch enemy) but the conjuction is not

> >close (9 deg).

> > Sa is afflicted by 12L and dire malefic Mo.

> > Ve, karaka of marriage is with Ma giving a good DKY but

also

> >at the same time Ma is badhakesha, indicating delay if not denia.

> > Ve is afflicted by aspect of 8L Ju

> > Ve is debilitated by presence of Me in its own house.

> > Ve is dispositor of 7L and conjoins A8.

> >

> >Pros: UL-lord Ju is in strength and is aspected by Ve (karaka for

> >marriage) and dharmadhipati Ma which is significant.

> > 2nd from UL is 9H and its lord is aspecting UL.

> > 7th Lord in Navamsa is aspecting own house from Lagna.

> > Exalted Ju is aspecting 7H. But Ju is in maranakaraka

sthana.

> > In Navamsa, Ve is Lagnesha and is aspected by yogakaraka

and

> >Rasi 7L, Saturn.

> > Sa conjoins UL in Navamsa.

> >

> >I think, there are marked difficulties in getting married (likely

> >due to Natives own views about that) but definitely there is a

> >possibility for marriage. Sa usually gives late marriage.

> >

> >I haven't had a chance to look into the dasas yet.

> >

> >Best Regards,

> >

> >Sourav

> >================================================================

> >

> >

> >

> >, "anuraagsharma27"

> ><anuraagsharma27@h...> wrote:

> > > Dear members,

> > >

> > > This line of thinking appears well founded. In one's own chart

> >(11th

> > > June, 1972; 10:17 AM; Cuttack, Orissa), the AK is in the 10th

> >House

> > > as the Lagna Lord and is placed with 6th and 7th Lord Shani and

> >12th

> > > Lord exalted Chandra. The initial teachings were of comparative

> > > mythology from a dead teacher called Joseph Campbell. It began

to

> > > transform my life.

> > >

> > > The dispositor of the AK Sun is the 11th Lord, placed in the

11th

> > > with Venus and Mars. There are heavy cross-cultural and

Internet

> >and

> > > actual literature based teachings. All this is aspected by the

> >Vakri

> > > Guru from Dhanu in the 5th with Graha and Rashi Drishti.

> > >

> > > Regards.

> > >

> > > Anurag Sharma.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ajay and Sameer, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > The nature of the planet in the eleventh house will show the

> > > approach one

> > > > has. One with Saturn there will be more focussed on the

> >teachings

> > > of the

> > > > elders, and will not easily take on any modern research or

> > > teachings.

> > > >

> > > > Surya does the opposite and tries to get knowledge from every

> > > possible

> > > > source.. focus is on understanding here.

> > > >

> > > > Mercury and Jupiter are more focussed on the learning they

can

> >get

> > > from

> > > > actual teachers, and here there is less application and more

> >theory

> > > and

> > > > philosophy.

> > > >

> > > > This way you can differentiate between the planets.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > >

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > > http://astrovisti.com

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > >

> > > [] On

> > > > Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> > > > 03 September 2005 04:02

> > > >

> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti

> >Larsen

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Jyotisha, Pranaam

> > > >

> > > > In line with the current discussion and what sameer asked...

> > > >

> > > > My AK Venus is joined 11th lord Mercury in the fourth house

of

> > > education.

> > > >

> > > > What would be the influence of "Ketu" in 11th house.

> > > >

> > > > In navamsa I have "Ketu" in trine to AK which also form a

yoga

> >for

> > > learning

> > > > astrology.

> > > >

> > > > Should we take "Ketu" in 11th house as learning through

highly

> > > spiritual

> > > > person?

> > > >

> > > > Also can it indicate the person in the sense that "Ketu" is

> > > Gurudev's Lagan

> > > > lord and involved in Kalaamrit yoga?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ajay

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > "Michal Dziwulski" <nearmichal>

> > > > <>

> > > > Saturday, September 03, 2005 5:07 AM

> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti

> >Larsen

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hare Rama Krsna::

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sameer, Namaskar,

> > > > >

> > > > > If i may just point out that the current President of

> > > > > USA also has AK Venus in Lagna as well as being the

> > > > > eleventh lord, and in turn aspecting its own house,

> > > > > satisfying the criteria for learning Jyotish.

> > > > >

> > > > > BTW I have seen charts with Jupiter debilitated in

> > > > > Navamsa give excellent results for spiritual and

> > > > > scriptural learning, but only when in Kendras or

> > > > > trines.

> > > > >

> > > > > Respectfully,

> > > > > Michal.

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Namo Narayanaya::

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- sameer_sawhney <icecoolsam@v...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Visti,Pranaam

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have AK mercury with 11th lord Venus in lagna and

> > > > > > both are

> > > > > > aspecting 11th house. This satisfies the below

> > > > > > mentioned atma-level

> > > > > > sambandha in learning jyotish.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I remember reading in your book that planets in 11th

> > > > > > also indicate

> > > > > > how does one learn,for example, saturn indicates

> > > > > > learning through

> > > > > > some tradition/parampara.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have Jupiter in 11th house, does it indicate

> > > > > > learning through a

> > > > > > Guru as Jupiter also happens to be 9th lord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The same jupiter is deblitated in Navamsa resulting

> > > > > > in less/zero

> > > > > > fortune through this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is this correct assumtion ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Sameer

> > > > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> > > > > > <visti@s...>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Shruti, Namaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I've never heard of Jupiters placement in the

> > > > > > eighth house giving

> > > > > > an ability

> > > > > > > for Jyotish. I was taught quite differently in

> > > > > > this regard. Also i

> > > > > > don't

> > > > > > > remember seeing this placement in the charts of

> > > > > > jyotishas.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jupiters placement in the Siddhamsa (d24) will

> > > > > > indicate how good

> > > > > > you are at

> > > > > > > learning anything. Preferably Jupiter should be in

> > > > > > a kendra or

> > > > > > eleventh

> > > > > > > house, to ensure that the person is very receptive

> > > > > > when learning.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Here the Lagna is intelligence or application

> > > > > > of the same.

> > > > > > > 2. The fourth house is the reading of books and

> > > > > > scriptures, in a

> > > > > > formal

> > > > > > > scene.

> > > > > > > 3. The seventh house is the interaction with

> > > > > > others and learning

> > > > > > > through discussions and interactions.

> > > > > > > 4. The tenth house is sight or visualizing the

> > > > > > knowledge whilst

> > > > > > it is

> > > > > > > taught.

> > > > > > > 5. Finally the eleventh house helps the person

> > > > > > learn through

> > > > > > hearing,

> > > > > > > i.e. perfect rememberance through hearing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But these can be good for anyone to learn, be it

> > > > > > jyotish or

> > > > > > chemistry.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Point is that for one to be interested in Jyotish

> > > > > > there must be an

> > > > > > > atma-level sambandha. Without the atma there is no

> > > > > > desire or

> > > > > > ability to

> > > > > > > learn jyotish. For this reason one combination

> > > > > > which is always

> > > > > > eulogized

> > > > > > > among sjc-members is; the Atmakaraka must

> > > > > > associate with the

> > > > > > eleventh house

> > > > > > > in Rasi.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In BV Ramans chart, the AK is chandra and is in

> > > > > > mutual dristi with

> > > > > > eleventh

> > > > > > > lord Guru and forming gajakesari yoga in the

> > > > > > kendras for fame

> > > > > > through

> > > > > > > jyotish.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In KN Rao's chart, the AK is eleventh lord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In Sanjay Rath's chart, his AK is in the eleventh

> > > > > > house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In PVR Narasimha Rao's chart, AK is the eleventh

> > > > > > lord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In my chart, the dispositor of AK is in the

> > > > > > eleventh house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Look for this simple, yet important combination

> > > > > > first, or figure

> > > > > > out how it

> > > > > > > is playing out in your chart. Then after seeing

> > > > > > this, you can look

> > > > > > for yogas

> > > > > > > for fame, or good predictions, etc.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ***

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > > > > > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > > > > > http://astrovisti.com

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ***

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > [] On

> > > > > > > Behalf Of shrupata

> > > > > > > 02 September 2005 13:04

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to

> > > > > > Guru Visti Larsen

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Guru Visti Larsen,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can you please explain some points a

> > > > > > person should have

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > show if they have the ability to learn Jyotish.

> > > > > > Also in one email I

> > > > > > > read that Jupiter in the 8th house in D-24 would

> > > > > > show ability for

> > > > > > > Jyotish. However, what if Jupiter was in Capricorn

> > > > > > in the 8th

> > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > It would be fallen in this position. Would this

> > > > > > mean the person has

> > > > > > > no scope in Jyotish?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Shruti

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

> > > > > > Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

> > > > > > Rama Krishna'

> > > > > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> > > > > > Great who said

> > > > > > that the

> > > > > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for

> > > > > > animals.

> > > > > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

> > > > > > free chart

> > > > > > reading today

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > * Visit your group "

> > > > > > > <> " on

> > > > > > the web.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > * To from this group, send an email

> > > > > > to:

> > > > > >

> > > > > === message truncated ===

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection

around

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

Ashram.

> > > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

> >Krishna'

> > > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

> >said

> > > that the

> > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free

chart

> > > reading today

> > > > > Links

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said

> > > that the

> > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> > > reading today

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > * Visit your group "

> > > > <> " on the web.

> > > >

> > > > *

> > > >

> > > >

> > <<?

>?>

> > subject=Un>

> > > >

> > > > *

> > > > <> Terms of Service.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _____

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >~ om tat sat ~

> >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar

> >the Great who said that the human stomach should

> >not become a graveyard for animals.

> >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

> > Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Jhora takes longitude and lattitude.

It should be done like that in combustion matters..

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

-

"Sourav Chowdhury" <souravc108

<>

Saturday, September 10, 2005 4:25 PM

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti Larsen

 

 

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Dear Samir,

Namaskar. I am not sure what is programmed in JHora. I

consider 3 deg. to be close combustion and can severely affect the

planet's significances. Otherwise, the planet's significance is

lessened but not completely annuled. Remember that planets in their

direct motion when approaching Su are Combust. Only exception is

Venus.

 

I will ask Narasimha-ji about the degrees.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sourav

====================================================================

 

 

, Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...>

wrote:

> || Hare Räma Kåñëa ||

>

> Dear Sourav, Namaskar

>

> What range do you/Narasimhaji use for the

> combustion of Saturn? I thought is was 15

> degrees (taking into account latitude also of

> course) - but Jagannatha Hora doesn't think

> Saturn is combust in this case (I get a

> separation of around 10 degrees when taking latitude into account

also).

>

> Another thing that may be relevant here is that

> the Amavasya dosha is compounded by a Matri

> Shaapa. Rahu and Saturn lord the 7th house so

> there will no doubt be shock/sorrow coming from there.

>

> Warm regards,

>

> Samir

>

>

>

> At 18:22 09/09/2005, you wrote:

> >|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> >Dear Sharma-ji,

> > Namaskar. My comments about

AK/Combustion/Marriage as

> >per your chart is written as below. You are a very good astrologer

> >yourself. Perhaps you will know better.

> >

> >Sun is the giver of everything. If Sun is atmakaraka, pride (being

> >the giver of everything) is what the native need to be cautious

> >about. Sun is also Lagnesha and in the throne (10H) hence this is

> >perhaps the most important lesson in Sun AK native. How to do it ?

> >by identifying with the fact that one is a part of everything

else.

> >Hence, truely there is no giving or taking, truely speaking.

> >

> >Grahas combust with Sun shows areas of life deprived so that

lessons

> >are taught. Sun being AK there could be pride in relation to those

> >planets associating with the Sun. Close combustion enhances that

> >effect.

> >

> >Sun being in Bhrastaamsa in D-60 increases this effect as Bhrashta

> >means that in past life the native has not been able to learn this

> >lesson and hence must to this in this life or next life.

> >

> >Now permit me to come to the question of your being single as yet.

> >

> >Cons: UL in 8H - difficulties in marriage.

> > Sa is 11L with Sun (arch enemy) but the conjuction is not

> >close (9 deg).

> > Sa is afflicted by 12L and dire malefic Mo.

> > Ve, karaka of marriage is with Ma giving a good DKY but

also

> >at the same time Ma is badhakesha, indicating delay if not denia.

> > Ve is afflicted by aspect of 8L Ju

> > Ve is debilitated by presence of Me in its own house.

> > Ve is dispositor of 7L and conjoins A8.

> >

> >Pros: UL-lord Ju is in strength and is aspected by Ve (karaka for

> >marriage) and dharmadhipati Ma which is significant.

> > 2nd from UL is 9H and its lord is aspecting UL.

> > 7th Lord in Navamsa is aspecting own house from Lagna.

> > Exalted Ju is aspecting 7H. But Ju is in maranakaraka

sthana.

> > In Navamsa, Ve is Lagnesha and is aspected by yogakaraka

and

> >Rasi 7L, Saturn.

> > Sa conjoins UL in Navamsa.

> >

> >I think, there are marked difficulties in getting married (likely

> >due to Natives own views about that) but definitely there is a

> >possibility for marriage. Sa usually gives late marriage.

> >

> >I haven't had a chance to look into the dasas yet.

> >

> >Best Regards,

> >

> >Sourav

> >================================================================

> >

> >

> >

> >, "anuraagsharma27"

> ><anuraagsharma27@h...> wrote:

> > > Dear members,

> > >

> > > This line of thinking appears well founded. In one's own chart

> >(11th

> > > June, 1972; 10:17 AM; Cuttack, Orissa), the AK is in the 10th

> >House

> > > as the Lagna Lord and is placed with 6th and 7th Lord Shani and

> >12th

> > > Lord exalted Chandra. The initial teachings were of comparative

> > > mythology from a dead teacher called Joseph Campbell. It began

to

> > > transform my life.

> > >

> > > The dispositor of the AK Sun is the 11th Lord, placed in the

11th

> > > with Venus and Mars. There are heavy cross-cultural and

Internet

> >and

> > > actual literature based teachings. All this is aspected by the

> >Vakri

> > > Guru from Dhanu in the 5th with Graha and Rashi Drishti.

> > >

> > > Regards.

> > >

> > > Anurag Sharma.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ajay and Sameer, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > The nature of the planet in the eleventh house will show the

> > > approach one

> > > > has. One with Saturn there will be more focussed on the

> >teachings

> > > of the

> > > > elders, and will not easily take on any modern research or

> > > teachings.

> > > >

> > > > Surya does the opposite and tries to get knowledge from every

> > > possible

> > > > source.. focus is on understanding here.

> > > >

> > > > Mercury and Jupiter are more focussed on the learning they

can

> >get

> > > from

> > > > actual teachers, and here there is less application and more

> >theory

> > > and

> > > > philosophy.

> > > >

> > > > This way you can differentiate between the planets.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > >

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > > http://astrovisti.com

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > >

> > > [] On

> > > > Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> > > > 03 September 2005 04:02

> > > >

> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti

> >Larsen

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Jyotisha, Pranaam

> > > >

> > > > In line with the current discussion and what sameer asked...

> > > >

> > > > My AK Venus is joined 11th lord Mercury in the fourth house

of

> > > education.

> > > >

> > > > What would be the influence of "Ketu" in 11th house.

> > > >

> > > > In navamsa I have "Ketu" in trine to AK which also form a

yoga

> >for

> > > learning

> > > > astrology.

> > > >

> > > > Should we take "Ketu" in 11th house as learning through

highly

> > > spiritual

> > > > person?

> > > >

> > > > Also can it indicate the person in the sense that "Ketu" is

> > > Gurudev's Lagan

> > > > lord and involved in Kalaamrit yoga?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ajay

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > "Michal Dziwulski" <nearmichal>

> > > > <>

> > > > Saturday, September 03, 2005 5:07 AM

> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru Visti

> >Larsen

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hare Rama Krsna::

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sameer, Namaskar,

> > > > >

> > > > > If i may just point out that the current President of

> > > > > USA also has AK Venus in Lagna as well as being the

> > > > > eleventh lord, and in turn aspecting its own house,

> > > > > satisfying the criteria for learning Jyotish.

> > > > >

> > > > > BTW I have seen charts with Jupiter debilitated in

> > > > > Navamsa give excellent results for spiritual and

> > > > > scriptural learning, but only when in Kendras or

> > > > > trines.

> > > > >

> > > > > Respectfully,

> > > > > Michal.

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Namo Narayanaya::

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- sameer_sawhney <icecoolsam@v...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Visti,Pranaam

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have AK mercury with 11th lord Venus in lagna and

> > > > > > both are

> > > > > > aspecting 11th house. This satisfies the below

> > > > > > mentioned atma-level

> > > > > > sambandha in learning jyotish.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I remember reading in your book that planets in 11th

> > > > > > also indicate

> > > > > > how does one learn,for example, saturn indicates

> > > > > > learning through

> > > > > > some tradition/parampara.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have Jupiter in 11th house, does it indicate

> > > > > > learning through a

> > > > > > Guru as Jupiter also happens to be 9th lord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The same jupiter is deblitated in Navamsa resulting

> > > > > > in less/zero

> > > > > > fortune through this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is this correct assumtion ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Sameer

> > > > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> > > > > > <visti@s...>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Shruti, Namaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I've never heard of Jupiters placement in the

> > > > > > eighth house giving

> > > > > > an ability

> > > > > > > for Jyotish. I was taught quite differently in

> > > > > > this regard. Also i

> > > > > > don't

> > > > > > > remember seeing this placement in the charts of

> > > > > > jyotishas.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jupiters placement in the Siddhamsa (d24) will

> > > > > > indicate how good

> > > > > > you are at

> > > > > > > learning anything. Preferably Jupiter should be in

> > > > > > a kendra or

> > > > > > eleventh

> > > > > > > house, to ensure that the person is very receptive

> > > > > > when learning.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Here the Lagna is intelligence or application

> > > > > > of the same.

> > > > > > > 2. The fourth house is the reading of books and

> > > > > > scriptures, in a

> > > > > > formal

> > > > > > > scene.

> > > > > > > 3. The seventh house is the interaction with

> > > > > > others and learning

> > > > > > > through discussions and interactions.

> > > > > > > 4. The tenth house is sight or visualizing the

> > > > > > knowledge whilst

> > > > > > it is

> > > > > > > taught.

> > > > > > > 5. Finally the eleventh house helps the person

> > > > > > learn through

> > > > > > hearing,

> > > > > > > i.e. perfect rememberance through hearing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But these can be good for anyone to learn, be it

> > > > > > jyotish or

> > > > > > chemistry.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Point is that for one to be interested in Jyotish

> > > > > > there must be an

> > > > > > > atma-level sambandha. Without the atma there is no

> > > > > > desire or

> > > > > > ability to

> > > > > > > learn jyotish. For this reason one combination

> > > > > > which is always

> > > > > > eulogized

> > > > > > > among sjc-members is; the Atmakaraka must

> > > > > > associate with the

> > > > > > eleventh house

> > > > > > > in Rasi.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In BV Ramans chart, the AK is chandra and is in

> > > > > > mutual dristi with

> > > > > > eleventh

> > > > > > > lord Guru and forming gajakesari yoga in the

> > > > > > kendras for fame

> > > > > > through

> > > > > > > jyotish.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In KN Rao's chart, the AK is eleventh lord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In Sanjay Rath's chart, his AK is in the eleventh

> > > > > > house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In PVR Narasimha Rao's chart, AK is the eleventh

> > > > > > lord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In my chart, the dispositor of AK is in the

> > > > > > eleventh house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Look for this simple, yet important combination

> > > > > > first, or figure

> > > > > > out how it

> > > > > > > is playing out in your chart. Then after seeing

> > > > > > this, you can look

> > > > > > for yogas

> > > > > > > for fame, or good predictions, etc.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ***

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > > > > > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > > > > > http://astrovisti.com

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ***

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > [] On

> > > > > > > Behalf Of shrupata

> > > > > > > 02 September 2005 13:04

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to

> > > > > > Guru Visti Larsen

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Guru Visti Larsen,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can you please explain some points a

> > > > > > person should have

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > show if they have the ability to learn Jyotish.

> > > > > > Also in one email I

> > > > > > > read that Jupiter in the 8th house in D-24 would

> > > > > > show ability for

> > > > > > > Jyotish. However, what if Jupiter was in Capricorn

> > > > > > in the 8th

> > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > It would be fallen in this position. Would this

> > > > > > mean the person has

> > > > > > > no scope in Jyotish?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Shruti

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

> > > > > > Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

> > > > > > Rama Krishna'

> > > > > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> > > > > > Great who said

> > > > > > that the

> > > > > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for

> > > > > > animals.

> > > > > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

> > > > > > free chart

> > > > > > reading today

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > * Visit your group "

> > > > > > > <> " on

> > > > > > the web.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > * To from this group, send an email

> > > > > > to:

> > > > > >

> > > > > === message truncated ===

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection

around

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

Ashram.

> > > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

> >Krishna'

> > > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

> >said

> > > that the

> > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free

chart

> > > reading today

> > > > > Links

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said

> > > that the

> > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> > > reading today

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > * Visit your group "

> > > > <> " on the web.

> > > >

> > > > *

> > > >

> > > >

> > <<?

>?>

> > subject=Un>

> > > >

> > > > *

> > > > <> Terms of Service.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _____

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >~ om tat sat ~

> >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar

> >the Great who said that the human stomach should

> >not become a graveyard for animals.

> >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

> > Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

 

 

 

 

 

~ om tat sat ~

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Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the

human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Dear Sharma-ji,

namaskar. My comments below.

Best Wishes,

 

Sourav

====================================================================

 

, "anuraagsharma27"

<anuraagsharma27@h...> wrote:

> Dear Saurav,

>

> Thank you for your learned views. I think they explore the

features

> quite well. Why do you say that Shani is the 11th Lord? From the

UL?

 

[sourav]: It was a typo. I was thinking about the 11H, that is why.

I meant Sa as 7L.

 

> I agree with your statements about Surya and perhaps there has

been

> some advancement or there might be possibilities in understanding

the

> tru nature of being with Ketu in the 12th from Karakamsha and in

the

> 12th in Rashi.

>

> With Lord of UL in the 5th from Lagna and UL being in the 8th;

Shani

> being in the 2nd House in UL in Navamsha and the 2nd Lord Budh

being

> in the 7th, do you think there could be a Karmic bond (retrograde

> Jupiter in Sagittarius) in matters of affection (5th House) in

> marriage and that this could involve someone already married

earlier

> with the involvement of the 2nd and 8th Houses in Rashi and

Navamsha

> Chakra?

 

[sourav]: Because you are born, you have karma. All the planets

stand as witnesses to that. Therefore we should not single out a

planet for seeing karmic bond. For example, take the 5H. All planets

are affecting 5H (hence give contributions of astakavarga points to

the house) and hence are involved in showing the totality of karma

fructified through that house.

 

Retrograde planets show a state of 'immediacy' meaning that they

have a lot more momentum to produce results in this present life.

Ju is 5L in 5H and retrograde showing heightened emotions (above

normal).

 

 

> About Guru's Maran Karaka Sthana in Navamsha, unless I am

mistaken,

> Sanjay Ji stated that MKS placements of Grahas are to be seen in

> Rashi with the Karakas seen in the Varga charts: for example in

> Navamsha, Venus's MKS would be significant, in Dashamsha,

Mercury's

> MKS would be significant. If I am in error I stand to be corrected

> from this.

 

[sourav]: Yes, it may be supported by Sanjay-ji. However, as per SJC

tradition I am also taught to treat divisional charts as stand-alone

charts and hence consider MKS for all grahas in a given chart. My

logic for that is that since all grahas are players in a given chart

all of them are important. Karaka being in MKS in its divisional

chart makes it weaker.

 

Jupiter stands for dharma and marraige is also a part of (not the

whole of) dharma. Hence blessings of the 9L is very crucial in

marriage and its sustenance.

 

 

> Also would you think that the relative strength of the UL Lord in

> Rashi and Navamsha would mean that the spouse might be of a higher

> status, also in view of the Gajkesari Yoga in the 3rd Bhava in

> Navamsha?

 

[sourav]: Sun represents status. In Navamsa, Su is 11th from ULL and

7H, 10th from Karaka (Ve)and second from dara-pada (A7) is good and

may indicate someone from a good family. 7L in the Lagna can make a

native beget a famous spouse.

 

Gajakesari yoga conjoins AL and HL which is good for all relations,

per se. However, be reminded that the yoga is formed by 8L and 12L

in the Rasi chart. Rasi chart gives the true agenda of the planets.

3H in Navamsa is house of effort you put(in the field of

relationships). The could be some deficiency in that area.

 

 

> I am in Guru-Shukra now with Kanya Narayan Dasha, 7th from the UL.

> Guru would aspect the 2nd from the UL by Rashi Drishti after the

> autumn of 2006, so perhaps that might be a possible time for this

> bewildering event to come around?

 

[sourav]: Virgo Narayana dasa is a possibility, not because it is

7th from UL but because it is in the 2nd house of family. Marriage

entails family hence this dasa can give help in establishing family.

 

>

> I think that the difficulties in this event fructifying are due to

> the Punarbhu Yoga brought to light by Mu'min Bey on the Vedic

> Astrology list which Sanjay Ji affirmed where if Shani and Moon

are

> related, and one of them has something to do with the 7th House,

one

> of the partners gets cold feet about marriage even though

everything

> else may be completely in order. Of course Shani-Chandra is a suo-

> moto Rajayoga in the 4th, 10th and 11th Houses, indicating some

> delayed fructification of cherished desires, after pressures.

 

[sourav]: Punarbhu yoga as you mentioned is a possibility.

Sanichandra yoga is a difficult yoga as far as understanding is

concerned especially as it affects the mind. Su and Sa are

naisargika satru's and hence there is a repulsion between them. Sun

is lagnesa and Sa is the lord of the dara-bhava and Mo is placed

between them (Sun - 26 deg, Mo - 22 deg, Sa - 17 deg) and hence is

under a kartari. Oscillations of the mind is automatic. Sa is PiK

and Mo is MK with Su and Lagnesha and AK, hence pressures from

parents is likely.

 

> Many thanks and I look forward to your view on the areas mentioned.

>

> Anurag Sharma.

, "Sourav Chowdhury"

> <souravc108> wrote:

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Dear Sharma-ji,

> > Namaskar. My comments about

AK/Combustion/Marriage

> as

> > per your chart is written as below. You are a very good

astrologer

> > yourself. Perhaps you will know better.

> >

> > Sun is the giver of everything. If Sun is atmakaraka, pride

(being

> > the giver of everything) is what the native need to be cautious

> > about. Sun is also Lagnesha and in the throne (10H) hence this

is

> > perhaps the most important lesson in Sun AK native. How to do

it ?

> > by identifying with the fact that one is a part of everything

else.

> > Hence, truely there is no giving or taking, truely speaking.

> >

> > Grahas combust with Sun shows areas of life deprived so that

> lessons

> > are taught. Sun being AK there could be pride in relation to

those

> > planets associating with the Sun. Close combustion enhances that

> > effect.

> >

> > Sun being in Bhrastaamsa in D-60 increases this effect as

Bhrashta

> > means that in past life the native has not been able to learn

this

> > lesson and hence must to this in this life or next life.

> >

> > Now permit me to come to the question of your being single as

yet.

> >

> > Cons: UL in 8H - difficulties in marriage.

> > Sa is 11L with Sun (arch enemy) but the conjuction is not

> > close (9 deg).

> > Sa is afflicted by 12L and dire malefic Mo.

> > Ve, karaka of marriage is with Ma giving a good DKY but

also

> > at the same time Ma is badhakesha, indicating delay if not denia.

> > Ve is afflicted by aspect of 8L Ju

> > Ve is debilitated by presence of Me in its own house.

> > Ve is dispositor of 7L and conjoins A8.

> >

> > Pros: UL-lord Ju is in strength and is aspected by Ve (karaka

for

> > marriage) and dharmadhipati Ma which is significant.

> > 2nd from UL is 9H and its lord is aspecting UL.

> > 7th Lord in Navamsa is aspecting own house from Lagna.

> > Exalted Ju is aspecting 7H. But Ju is in maranakaraka

sthana.

> > In Navamsa, Ve is Lagnesha and is aspected by yogakaraka

and

> > Rasi 7L, Saturn.

> > Sa conjoins UL in Navamsa.

> >

> > I think, there are marked difficulties in getting married

(likely

> > due to Natives own views about that) but definitely there is a

> > possibility for marriage. Sa usually gives late marriage.

> >

> > I haven't had a chance to look into the dasas yet.

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > Sourav

> > ================================================================

> >

> >

> >

> > , "anuraagsharma27"

> > <anuraagsharma27@h...> wrote:

> > > Dear members,

> > >

> > > This line of thinking appears well founded. In one's own chart

> > (11th

> > > June, 1972; 10:17 AM; Cuttack, Orissa), the AK is in the 10th

> > House

> > > as the Lagna Lord and is placed with 6th and 7th Lord Shani

and

> > 12th

> > > Lord exalted Chandra. The initial teachings were of

comparative

> > > mythology from a dead teacher called Joseph Campbell. It began

to

> > > transform my life.

> > >

> > > The dispositor of the AK Sun is the 11th Lord, placed in the

11th

> > > with Venus and Mars. There are heavy cross-cultural and

Internet

> > and

> > > actual literature based teachings. All this is aspected by the

> > Vakri

> > > Guru from Dhanu in the 5th with Graha and Rashi Drishti.

> > >

> > > Regards.

> > >

> > > Anurag Sharma.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Visti Larsen"

<visti@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ajay and Sameer, Namaskar

> > > >

> > > > The nature of the planet in the eleventh house will show the

> > > approach one

> > > > has. One with Saturn there will be more focussed on the

> > teachings

> > > of the

> > > > elders, and will not easily take on any modern research or

> > > teachings.

> > > >

> > > > Surya does the opposite and tries to get knowledge from

every

> > > possible

> > > > source.. focus is on understanding here.

> > > >

> > > > Mercury and Jupiter are more focussed on the learning they

can

> > get

> > > from

> > > > actual teachers, and here there is less application and more

> > theory

> > > and

> > > > philosophy.

> > > >

> > > > This way you can differentiate between the planets.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > >

> > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > >

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > > http://astrovisti.com

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > >

> > > [] On

> > > > Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> > > > 03 September 2005 04:02

> > > >

> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru

Visti

> > Larsen

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Jyotisha, Pranaam

> > > >

> > > > In line with the current discussion and what sameer asked...

> > > >

> > > > My AK Venus is joined 11th lord Mercury in the fourth house

of

> > > education.

> > > >

> > > > What would be the influence of "Ketu" in 11th house.

> > > >

> > > > In navamsa I have "Ketu" in trine to AK which also form a

yoga

> > for

> > > learning

> > > > astrology.

> > > >

> > > > Should we take "Ketu" in 11th house as learning through

highly

> > > spiritual

> > > > person?

> > > >

> > > > Also can it indicate the person in the sense that "Ketu" is

> > > Gurudev's Lagan

> > > > lord and involved in Kalaamrit yoga?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ajay

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > "Michal Dziwulski" <nearmichal>

> > > > <>

> > > > Saturday, September 03, 2005 5:07 AM

> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru

Visti

> > Larsen

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hare Rama Krsna::

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sameer, Namaskar,

> > > > >

> > > > > If i may just point out that the current President of

> > > > > USA also has AK Venus in Lagna as well as being the

> > > > > eleventh lord, and in turn aspecting its own house,

> > > > > satisfying the criteria for learning Jyotish.

> > > > >

> > > > > BTW I have seen charts with Jupiter debilitated in

> > > > > Navamsa give excellent results for spiritual and

> > > > > scriptural learning, but only when in Kendras or

> > > > > trines.

> > > > >

> > > > > Respectfully,

> > > > > Michal.

> > > > >

> > > > > Om Namo Narayanaya::

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- sameer_sawhney <icecoolsam@v...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Visti,Pranaam

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have AK mercury with 11th lord Venus in lagna and

> > > > > > both are

> > > > > > aspecting 11th house. This satisfies the below

> > > > > > mentioned atma-level

> > > > > > sambandha in learning jyotish.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I remember reading in your book that planets in 11th

> > > > > > also indicate

> > > > > > how does one learn,for example, saturn indicates

> > > > > > learning through

> > > > > > some tradition/parampara.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have Jupiter in 11th house, does it indicate

> > > > > > learning through a

> > > > > > Guru as Jupiter also happens to be 9th lord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The same jupiter is deblitated in Navamsa resulting

> > > > > > in less/zero

> > > > > > fortune through this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is this correct assumtion ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Sameer

> > > > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> > > > > > <visti@s...>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Shruti, Namaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I've never heard of Jupiters placement in the

> > > > > > eighth house giving

> > > > > > an ability

> > > > > > > for Jyotish. I was taught quite differently in

> > > > > > this regard. Also i

> > > > > > don't

> > > > > > > remember seeing this placement in the charts of

> > > > > > jyotishas.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jupiters placement in the Siddhamsa (d24) will

> > > > > > indicate how good

> > > > > > you are at

> > > > > > > learning anything. Preferably Jupiter should be in

> > > > > > a kendra or

> > > > > > eleventh

> > > > > > > house, to ensure that the person is very receptive

> > > > > > when learning.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Here the Lagna is intelligence or application

> > > > > > of the same.

> > > > > > > 2. The fourth house is the reading of books and

> > > > > > scriptures, in a

> > > > > > formal

> > > > > > > scene.

> > > > > > > 3. The seventh house is the interaction with

> > > > > > others and learning

> > > > > > > through discussions and interactions.

> > > > > > > 4. The tenth house is sight or visualizing the

> > > > > > knowledge whilst

> > > > > > it is

> > > > > > > taught.

> > > > > > > 5. Finally the eleventh house helps the person

> > > > > > learn through

> > > > > > hearing,

> > > > > > > i.e. perfect rememberance through hearing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But these can be good for anyone to learn, be it

> > > > > > jyotish or

> > > > > > chemistry.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Point is that for one to be interested in Jyotish

> > > > > > there must be an

> > > > > > > atma-level sambandha. Without the atma there is no

> > > > > > desire or

> > > > > > ability to

> > > > > > > learn jyotish. For this reason one combination

> > > > > > which is always

> > > > > > eulogized

> > > > > > > among sjc-members is; the Atmakaraka must

> > > > > > associate with the

> > > > > > eleventh house

> > > > > > > in Rasi.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In BV Ramans chart, the AK is chandra and is in

> > > > > > mutual dristi with

> > > > > > eleventh

> > > > > > > lord Guru and forming gajakesari yoga in the

> > > > > > kendras for fame

> > > > > > through

> > > > > > > jyotish.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In KN Rao's chart, the AK is eleventh lord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In Sanjay Rath's chart, his AK is in the eleventh

> > > > > > house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In PVR Narasimha Rao's chart, AK is the eleventh

> > > > > > lord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In my chart, the dispositor of AK is in the

> > > > > > eleventh house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Look for this simple, yet important combination

> > > > > > first, or figure

> > > > > > out how it

> > > > > > > is playing out in your chart. Then after seeing

> > > > > > this, you can look

> > > > > > for yogas

> > > > > > > for fame, or good predictions, etc.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ***

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ***

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > [] On

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> > > > > > > 02 September 2005 13:04

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to

> > > > > > Guru Visti Larsen

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Guru Visti Larsen,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can you please explain some points a

> > > > > > person should have

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > show if they have the ability to learn Jyotish.

> > > > > > Also in one email I

> > > > > > > read that Jupiter in the 8th house in D-24 would

> > > > > > show ability for

> > > > > > > Jyotish. However, what if Jupiter was in Capricorn

> > > > > > in the 8th

> > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > It would be fallen in this position. Would this

> > > > > > mean the person has

> > > > > > > no scope in Jyotish?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

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> > > > > > >

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Ashram.

> > > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

> > Krishna'

> > > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great

who

> > said

> > > that the

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> > > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free

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> > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna'

> > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

> said

> > > that the

> > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> > > reading today

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Dear Sourav,

 

Thank you once again. About the exaltation of the UL Lord in the

Rashi/ Navamsha, I was given to understand that it was a dictum for

predicting a higher status for the family of the spouse. Of course,

the analysis with Surya shows much the same thing. It is illuminating

to have your views on the chart and brings in objectivity, which is

not always the case when one is looking at one's own chart.

 

Thank you.

 

Anurag.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "Sourav Chowdhury"

<souravc108> wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Sharma-ji,

> namaskar. My comments below.

> Best Wishes,

>

> Sourav

> ====================================================================

>

> , "anuraagsharma27"

> <anuraagsharma27@h...> wrote:

> > Dear Saurav,

> >

> > Thank you for your learned views. I think they explore the

> features

> > quite well. Why do you say that Shani is the 11th Lord? From the

> UL?

>

> [sourav]: It was a typo. I was thinking about the 11H, that is why.

> I meant Sa as 7L.

>

> > I agree with your statements about Surya and perhaps there has

> been

> > some advancement or there might be possibilities in understanding

> the

> > tru nature of being with Ketu in the 12th from Karakamsha and in

> the

> > 12th in Rashi.

> >

> > With Lord of UL in the 5th from Lagna and UL being in the 8th;

> Shani

> > being in the 2nd House in UL in Navamsha and the 2nd Lord Budh

> being

> > in the 7th, do you think there could be a Karmic bond (retrograde

> > Jupiter in Sagittarius) in matters of affection (5th House) in

> > marriage and that this could involve someone already married

> earlier

> > with the involvement of the 2nd and 8th Houses in Rashi and

> Navamsha

> > Chakra?

>

> [sourav]: Because you are born, you have karma. All the planets

> stand as witnesses to that. Therefore we should not single out a

> planet for seeing karmic bond. For example, take the 5H. All

planets

> are affecting 5H (hence give contributions of astakavarga points to

> the house) and hence are involved in showing the totality of karma

> fructified through that house.

>

> Retrograde planets show a state of 'immediacy' meaning that they

> have a lot more momentum to produce results in this present life.

> Ju is 5L in 5H and retrograde showing heightened emotions (above

> normal).

>

>

> > About Guru's Maran Karaka Sthana in Navamsha, unless I am

> mistaken,

> > Sanjay Ji stated that MKS placements of Grahas are to be seen in

> > Rashi with the Karakas seen in the Varga charts: for example in

> > Navamsha, Venus's MKS would be significant, in Dashamsha,

> Mercury's

> > MKS would be significant. If I am in error I stand to be

corrected

> > from this.

>

> [sourav]: Yes, it may be supported by Sanjay-ji. However, as per

SJC

> tradition I am also taught to treat divisional charts as stand-

alone

> charts and hence consider MKS for all grahas in a given chart. My

> logic for that is that since all grahas are players in a given

chart

> all of them are important. Karaka being in MKS in its divisional

> chart makes it weaker.

>

> Jupiter stands for dharma and marraige is also a part of (not the

> whole of) dharma. Hence blessings of the 9L is very crucial in

> marriage and its sustenance.

>

>

> > Also would you think that the relative strength of the UL Lord in

> > Rashi and Navamsha would mean that the spouse might be of a

higher

> > status, also in view of the Gajkesari Yoga in the 3rd Bhava in

> > Navamsha?

>

> [sourav]: Sun represents status. In Navamsa, Su is 11th from ULL

and

> 7H, 10th from Karaka (Ve)and second from dara-pada (A7) is good and

> may indicate someone from a good family. 7L in the Lagna can make a

> native beget a famous spouse.

>

> Gajakesari yoga conjoins AL and HL which is good for all relations,

> per se. However, be reminded that the yoga is formed by 8L and 12L

> in the Rasi chart. Rasi chart gives the true agenda of the planets.

> 3H in Navamsa is house of effort you put(in the field of

> relationships). The could be some deficiency in that area.

>

>

> > I am in Guru-Shukra now with Kanya Narayan Dasha, 7th from the

UL.

> > Guru would aspect the 2nd from the UL by Rashi Drishti after the

> > autumn of 2006, so perhaps that might be a possible time for this

> > bewildering event to come around?

>

> [sourav]: Virgo Narayana dasa is a possibility, not because it is

> 7th from UL but because it is in the 2nd house of family. Marriage

> entails family hence this dasa can give help in establishing family.

>

> >

> > I think that the difficulties in this event fructifying are due

to

> > the Punarbhu Yoga brought to light by Mu'min Bey on the Vedic

> > Astrology list which Sanjay Ji affirmed where if Shani and Moon

> are

> > related, and one of them has something to do with the 7th House,

> one

> > of the partners gets cold feet about marriage even though

> everything

> > else may be completely in order. Of course Shani-Chandra is a suo-

> > moto Rajayoga in the 4th, 10th and 11th Houses, indicating some

> > delayed fructification of cherished desires, after pressures.

>

> [sourav]: Punarbhu yoga as you mentioned is a possibility.

> Sanichandra yoga is a difficult yoga as far as understanding is

> concerned especially as it affects the mind. Su and Sa are

> naisargika satru's and hence there is a repulsion between them. Sun

> is lagnesa and Sa is the lord of the dara-bhava and Mo is placed

> between them (Sun - 26 deg, Mo - 22 deg, Sa - 17 deg) and hence is

> under a kartari. Oscillations of the mind is automatic. Sa is PiK

> and Mo is MK with Su and Lagnesha and AK, hence pressures from

> parents is likely.

>

> > Many thanks and I look forward to your view on the areas

mentioned.

> >

> > Anurag Sharma.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , "Sourav Chowdhury"

> > <souravc108> wrote:

> > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > >

> > > Dear Sharma-ji,

> > > Namaskar. My comments about

> AK/Combustion/Marriage

> > as

> > > per your chart is written as below. You are a very good

> astrologer

> > > yourself. Perhaps you will know better.

> > >

> > > Sun is the giver of everything. If Sun is atmakaraka, pride

> (being

> > > the giver of everything) is what the native need to be cautious

> > > about. Sun is also Lagnesha and in the throne (10H) hence this

> is

> > > perhaps the most important lesson in Sun AK native. How to do

> it ?

> > > by identifying with the fact that one is a part of everything

> else.

> > > Hence, truely there is no giving or taking, truely speaking.

> > >

> > > Grahas combust with Sun shows areas of life deprived so that

> > lessons

> > > are taught. Sun being AK there could be pride in relation to

> those

> > > planets associating with the Sun. Close combustion enhances

that

> > > effect.

> > >

> > > Sun being in Bhrastaamsa in D-60 increases this effect as

> Bhrashta

> > > means that in past life the native has not been able to learn

> this

> > > lesson and hence must to this in this life or next life.

> > >

> > > Now permit me to come to the question of your being single as

> yet.

> > >

> > > Cons: UL in 8H - difficulties in marriage.

> > > Sa is 11L with Sun (arch enemy) but the conjuction is not

> > > close (9 deg).

> > > Sa is afflicted by 12L and dire malefic Mo.

> > > Ve, karaka of marriage is with Ma giving a good DKY but

> also

> > > at the same time Ma is badhakesha, indicating delay if not

denia.

> > > Ve is afflicted by aspect of 8L Ju

> > > Ve is debilitated by presence of Me in its own house.

> > > Ve is dispositor of 7L and conjoins A8.

> > >

> > > Pros: UL-lord Ju is in strength and is aspected by Ve (karaka

> for

> > > marriage) and dharmadhipati Ma which is significant.

> > > 2nd from UL is 9H and its lord is aspecting UL.

> > > 7th Lord in Navamsa is aspecting own house from Lagna.

> > > Exalted Ju is aspecting 7H. But Ju is in maranakaraka

> sthana.

> > > In Navamsa, Ve is Lagnesha and is aspected by yogakaraka

> and

> > > Rasi 7L, Saturn.

> > > Sa conjoins UL in Navamsa.

> > >

> > > I think, there are marked difficulties in getting married

> (likely

> > > due to Natives own views about that) but definitely there is a

> > > possibility for marriage. Sa usually gives late marriage.

> > >

> > > I haven't had a chance to look into the dasas yet.

> > >

> > > Best Regards,

> > >

> > > Sourav

> > > ================================================================

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , "anuraagsharma27"

> > > <anuraagsharma27@h...> wrote:

> > > > Dear members,

> > > >

> > > > This line of thinking appears well founded. In one's own

chart

> > > (11th

> > > > June, 1972; 10:17 AM; Cuttack, Orissa), the AK is in the 10th

> > > House

> > > > as the Lagna Lord and is placed with 6th and 7th Lord Shani

> and

> > > 12th

> > > > Lord exalted Chandra. The initial teachings were of

> comparative

> > > > mythology from a dead teacher called Joseph Campbell. It

began

> to

> > > > transform my life.

> > > >

> > > > The dispositor of the AK Sun is the 11th Lord, placed in the

> 11th

> > > > with Venus and Mars. There are heavy cross-cultural and

> Internet

> > > and

> > > > actual literature based teachings. All this is aspected by

the

> > > Vakri

> > > > Guru from Dhanu in the 5th with Graha and Rashi Drishti.

> > > >

> > > > Regards.

> > > >

> > > > Anurag Sharma.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> <visti@s...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ajay and Sameer, Namaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > The nature of the planet in the eleventh house will show

the

> > > > approach one

> > > > > has. One with Saturn there will be more focussed on the

> > > teachings

> > > > of the

> > > > > elders, and will not easily take on any modern research or

> > > > teachings.

> > > > >

> > > > > Surya does the opposite and tries to get knowledge from

> every

> > > > possible

> > > > > source.. focus is on understanding here.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mercury and Jupiter are more focussed on the learning they

> can

> > > get

> > > > from

> > > > > actual teachers, and here there is less application and

more

> > > theory

> > > > and

> > > > > philosophy.

> > > > >

> > > > > This way you can differentiate between the planets.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > ***

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > >

> > > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > > >

> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > > > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > > > http://astrovisti.com

> > > > >

> > > > > ***

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > [] On

> > > > > Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> > > > > 03 September 2005 04:02

> > > > >

> > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru

> Visti

> > > Larsen

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Jyotisha, Pranaam

> > > > >

> > > > > In line with the current discussion and what sameer asked...

> > > > >

> > > > > My AK Venus is joined 11th lord Mercury in the fourth house

> of

> > > > education.

> > > > >

> > > > > What would be the influence of "Ketu" in 11th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > In navamsa I have "Ketu" in trine to AK which also form a

> yoga

> > > for

> > > > learning

> > > > > astrology.

> > > > >

> > > > > Should we take "Ketu" in 11th house as learning through

> highly

> > > > spiritual

> > > > > person?

> > > > >

> > > > > Also can it indicate the person in the sense that "Ketu" is

> > > > Gurudev's Lagan

> > > > > lord and involved in Kalaamrit yoga?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Ajay

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > "Michal Dziwulski" <nearmichal>

> > > > > <>

> > > > > Saturday, September 03, 2005 5:07 AM

> > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to Guru

> Visti

> > > Larsen

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna::

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sameer, Namaskar,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If i may just point out that the current President of

> > > > > > USA also has AK Venus in Lagna as well as being the

> > > > > > eleventh lord, and in turn aspecting its own house,

> > > > > > satisfying the criteria for learning Jyotish.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > BTW I have seen charts with Jupiter debilitated in

> > > > > > Navamsa give excellent results for spiritual and

> > > > > > scriptural learning, but only when in Kendras or

> > > > > > trines.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respectfully,

> > > > > > Michal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Namo Narayanaya::

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- sameer_sawhney <icecoolsam@v...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Visti,Pranaam

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have AK mercury with 11th lord Venus in lagna and

> > > > > > > both are

> > > > > > > aspecting 11th house. This satisfies the below

> > > > > > > mentioned atma-level

> > > > > > > sambandha in learning jyotish.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I remember reading in your book that planets in 11th

> > > > > > > also indicate

> > > > > > > how does one learn,for example, saturn indicates

> > > > > > > learning through

> > > > > > > some tradition/parampara.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have Jupiter in 11th house, does it indicate

> > > > > > > learning through a

> > > > > > > Guru as Jupiter also happens to be 9th lord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The same jupiter is deblitated in Navamsa resulting

> > > > > > > in less/zero

> > > > > > > fortune through this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Is this correct assumtion ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Sameer

> > > > > > > , "Visti Larsen"

> > > > > > > <visti@s...>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Shruti, Namaskar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I've never heard of Jupiters placement in the

> > > > > > > eighth house giving

> > > > > > > an ability

> > > > > > > > for Jyotish. I was taught quite differently in

> > > > > > > this regard. Also i

> > > > > > > don't

> > > > > > > > remember seeing this placement in the charts of

> > > > > > > jyotishas.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Jupiters placement in the Siddhamsa (d24) will

> > > > > > > indicate how good

> > > > > > > you are at

> > > > > > > > learning anything. Preferably Jupiter should be in

> > > > > > > a kendra or

> > > > > > > eleventh

> > > > > > > > house, to ensure that the person is very receptive

> > > > > > > when learning.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Here the Lagna is intelligence or application

> > > > > > > of the same.

> > > > > > > > 2. The fourth house is the reading of books and

> > > > > > > scriptures, in a

> > > > > > > formal

> > > > > > > > scene.

> > > > > > > > 3. The seventh house is the interaction with

> > > > > > > others and learning

> > > > > > > > through discussions and interactions.

> > > > > > > > 4. The tenth house is sight or visualizing the

> > > > > > > knowledge whilst

> > > > > > > it is

> > > > > > > > taught.

> > > > > > > > 5. Finally the eleventh house helps the person

> > > > > > > learn through

> > > > > > > hearing,

> > > > > > > > i.e. perfect rememberance through hearing.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But these can be good for anyone to learn, be it

> > > > > > > jyotish or

> > > > > > > chemistry.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Point is that for one to be interested in Jyotish

> > > > > > > there must be an

> > > > > > > > atma-level sambandha. Without the atma there is no

> > > > > > > desire or

> > > > > > > ability to

> > > > > > > > learn jyotish. For this reason one combination

> > > > > > > which is always

> > > > > > > eulogized

> > > > > > > > among sjc-members is; the Atmakaraka must

> > > > > > > associate with the

> > > > > > > eleventh house

> > > > > > > > in Rasi.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In BV Ramans chart, the AK is chandra and is in

> > > > > > > mutual dristi with

> > > > > > > eleventh

> > > > > > > > lord Guru and forming gajakesari yoga in the

> > > > > > > kendras for fame

> > > > > > > through

> > > > > > > > jyotish.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In KN Rao's chart, the AK is eleventh lord.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In Sanjay Rath's chart, his AK is in the eleventh

> > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In PVR Narasimha Rao's chart, AK is the eleventh

> > > > > > > lord.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In my chart, the dispositor of AK is in the

> > > > > > > eleventh house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Look for this simple, yet important combination

> > > > > > > first, or figure

> > > > > > > out how it

> > > > > > > > is playing out in your chart. Then after seeing

> > > > > > > this, you can look

> > > > > > > for yogas

> > > > > > > > for fame, or good predictions, etc.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ***

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

> > > > > > > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > > > > > > http://astrovisti.com

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ***

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [] On

> > > > > > > > Behalf Of shrupata

> > > > > > > > 02 September 2005 13:04

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Learning Jyotish to

> > > > > > > Guru Visti Larsen

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Guru Visti Larsen,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Can you please explain some points a

> > > > > > > person should have

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > show if they have the ability to learn Jyotish.

> > > > > > > Also in one email I

> > > > > > > > read that Jupiter in the 8th house in D-24 would

> > > > > > > show ability for

> > > > > > > > Jyotish. However, what if Jupiter was in Capricorn

> > > > > > > in the 8th

> > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > > > It would be fallen in this position. Would this

> > > > > > > mean the person has

> > > > > > > > no scope in Jyotish?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Shruti

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

> > > > > > > Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > > > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

> > > > > > > Rama Krishna'

> > > > > > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> > > > > > > Great who said

> > > > > > > that the

> > > > > > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for

> > > > > > > animals.

> > > > > > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

> > > > > > > free chart

> > > > > > > reading today

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > * Visit your group "

> > > > > > > > <> " on

> > > > > > > the web.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > * To from this group, send an email

> > > > > > > to:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > === message truncated ===

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection

> > around

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

> Ashram.

> > > > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

> > > Krishna'

> > > > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great

> who

> > > said

> > > > that the

> > > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free

> chart

> > > > reading today

> > > > > > Links

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

Ashram.

> > > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

> Krishna'

> > > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

> > said

> > > > that the

> > > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free

chart

> > > > reading today

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > * Visit your group "

> > > > > <> " on the web.

> > > > >

> > > > > *

> > > > >

> > > > > <?

> > > > subject=Un>

> > > > >

> > > > > *

> > > > > <> Terms of Service.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

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hi

 

rahu and shani in the 9th house shani(debiliated) is malefic

going through RAHU MAHADASA

 

gender=male

time; 00:00:00

DOB; 20 APRIL 1979

KOLKATA

 

im going through worse stage of life jobless, plz help:pray:

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hi guruji

 

gender=male

time; 00:00:00

DOB; 20 APRIL 1979

KOLKATA

 

i have been advised to wear pitambari (yellow blue sapphire)

let me know whether i will be benifited after wearing this gemstone ..

 

rahu and shani in the 9th house shani is malefic

going through RAHU MAHADASA

 

im going through worse stage of life jobless, plz help:pray:

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