[SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna lord in 5th house

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Om Sri Gurave Namah

 

Dear Chandrashakar,

 

> Would not Sun in 5th with Mars and Jupiter in 9th for Aires

ascendant qualify for the shloka I have cited?

 

Yes this may qualify. Look into saptamasa and shadbala strength of

Jupiter to cross verify.

 

> As for the original topic,there is a line o thought which

calculates the first born amongst relatives from the designated Bhava

from Ascendant the next born from the Bhava at same no. of Bhava from

designated bhava and so on. So first born will be indicated by 5th

Bhava the second born by 9th house(5th from 5th) and so on. This

could be the key to the riddle that is being sought.

 

NO!. that way you are calculating childs child. (Anyway for childs

child i.e grandchild you should use child's lord as lagna).

Else some basics like bhavat bhavam will be violated.

9th house is third child. for male chart use 5,7,9 etc jump 3 houses

in Saptamsa as the next child a younger sibling!

 

The 5th is controlling house for children in male chart and 9th house

for females. The sequence is reversed for FEMALE CHARTS

 

Warm Regards.

S. Prabhakaran

 

 

> My poser was just to illustrate the fact that yogas in shlokas are

not to be taken verbatim but the principle behind the yogas should be

understood in order to arrive at correct import of the sages.

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

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> Zoran Radosavljevic

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> Monday, January 06, 2003 5:38 AM

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> Dear Chandrakeshar,

> That is correct. Lagnesh in the 5th can surely give the children

under the circumstances below. Yet the question was about the 1st

child..

> Best wishes

> Zoran

> Chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Visti,Zoran and other Learned Jyotishis,If I may

intervene,Jataka Parijat says in the chapter of Bhavaphala-5th-6th

Bhava shloka17"One shall certainly beget a Son(Progeny) if Lagnesh

(Lord of Ascendant) is in 5th, lord of the 5th is strong and Jupiter

is Bali(Strong).Chandrashekhar.

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> Visti Larsen

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> Saturday, January 04, 2003 9:18 PM

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> Hare Rama Krishna

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> Dear Zoran, "Progenic bliss is not assured, and the first

child could be lost"

> Zoran: Lagnesh carry the energy of Mangal (mesh is the first

rashi of Kal Purush), so his influence as a Mangal could lessen the

progenic bliss, as well as take the first child which is particulalry

signified by the 5th houseActually the Sun is Karaka for Lagna, and

Sun in the 5th house can cause miscarriages. The reason is that the

Agni of the Sun and the water needed to sustain childbirths, cause

dryness or excess heat, which results in miscarriages, similar to the

effects of planets being in Gandanta. Similarly Mars in the 5th can

cause miscarriages due to excess bleeding. As for blessings from

elders, Arudha Lagna in the 9th is enough for this. Best wishes

> Visti

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> Zoran Radosavljevic

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> Saturday, January 04, 2003 3:11 PM

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> Om Namo Narayanaya,

> Dear Visti and other members,

> I shall try to explain why these influences as given to

Parashara:

> Dear Sarajit,The results of the Lagna lord in the 5th

house are repeated as follows: "Progenic bliss is not assured, and

the first child could be lost. The native is honourable, friendly,

short-tempered and a favorite of the rulers, but tends to serve

others." Best wishes

> Visti-

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> "Progenic bliss is not assured, and the first child could

be lost"

> Zoran: Lagnesh carry the energy of Mangal (mesh is the

first rashi of Kal Purush), so his influence as a Mangal could lessen

the progenic bliss, as well as take the first child which is

particulalry signified by the 5th house

> " The native is honorable"

> Zoran: 5th lord in a natural zodiac belongs to Surya while

Karaka is Guru. So the person would be blessed by Surya and Guru.

Further, Arudha Lagna would fall into the 9th house of honour and

divine blessings, while Lagnesh would at the same time fall in the

9th house from arudha Lagna.

> " The native is friendly"

> This comes from Guru which is karaka for 5th house and

above mentioned Arudha. Why Friendly? Like Shri Mahavishnu, who is

always friendly towards human...

> "short tempered"

> Zoran: This is the infleunce of Surya as the 5th lord in

Kal Purush. Surya is Pitta Graha and is short tempered

> " Favourite of the rulers, but tends to serve others"

> Zoran: Favourite of the rulers is due to Surya, karaka

Guru, and Arudha Lagna in 9th house. The question about serving

others can be spiritually comprehended due to the above infleunces.

If we observe this as an ordinary matter such as business/service,

the 5th house gives status and power, and never service unless graha

is afflicted. If we treat this as a govermental service, and status

through the same, then this is ok

> Best wishes

> Zoran

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