Guest guest Report post Posted December 8, 2003 Dear Forum, I would like to request information on a case. A female around 24 yrs of age has ceased menstruating and hormonal assays have shown it to be case of Premature ovarian failure. There are no follicles in either ovary. The only way she can menstruate is by hormone replacement therapy. The growth has been ok and she had menarche at age of 13, but since beginning, the periods were delayed Her previous history includes Asthma, One episode of Typhoid fever and tonsillectomy in childhood due to recurrent tonsilitis. Kindly let me know what could be possible causes and likely treatment for such case. Thanks Vineet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 10, 2003 POF is theorized to be the result of an autoimmune disease - sorry, not up on the science at the moment - will get back to you if I dredge up anything useful. I wonder why if she is infertile (since if all the follicles are gone she will never ovulate), why she is also on drugs to menstruate? There appears to be no point... what tests have been conducted to determine if there are no follicles left? Caldecott phyto http://www.wrc.net/phyto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 10, 2003 Dear Vineet, Only natural harmone replacement possible is through a medicine termed "Nari Sanjivani" in PanchGavya Therapy available in India. From your mail, it appears that you are in USA where this therapy is patented but cant reach. Hence, I suggest following as immediate support: 1. Kumari Aasav : 15-20 ml with equal water after meals. 2. Dashamularishta: 15-20 ml with equal water after meals. Mix following ingredietnts: Lohabhasma: Bangbhasma: Abhrakbhasma: Silver Bhasma: (Chandi) Tamrabhasma: (Copper) Tankan: All ingrdeients given so far: 5 gms each. Kajjali: Yeshtimadhu: Cloves: Sindhalun: Vanshlochan: Rasona: Gokshurbij: All the second level ingredients: 10 gms each. The above mixture is to be made into tablets of peasize by using resin. This resin itself is to be prepared by boiling a mixture (add 1 tsp to 1 cup of powder and boil on simmering heat till thick consistency syrup) of following herbal powders in equal proportion. Galo (more names:Giloy, Guduchi, Amruta) Trifla haldi (Turmeric) Bhoyringani Tulsi (Holy basil) Gokharu Talispatra THis is the classical formulation termed "Nashta Pushyantak Rasa". Unfortunately, no reputed Indian pharmacy prepares this med since such cases are rare here, and the market volume for such a med is nil. On the other hand, if you come across any US supplier go ahead. With above treatment, patients having stopped menses upto 2 years have been cured. Recently, a girl aged 18 had 8 months menses holiday, but resumed regular menses after slightly irregular menses for nearly 5 months. A dificult case under treatment is a woman aged 32 having 4 year holiday. The cause of these cases, by conjecture appears to be the pestisides residues in food, fruits, vegetables. Regards and Best luck, DR. Bhate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 11, 2003 Dear Dr Bhate and While thanking you both for the response to my e-mail, I would like to clarify that I reside in Delhi, India. The case has been diagnosed after all possible investigations (follicles primarily by ultrasound). Hormone replacement is being given to avoid bone demineralsation (she already has some depletion. Thanks again Vineet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 16, 2003 and the demineralization occurs b/c the declining levels of estrogen promotes the release of cytokines such as interleukin-1, tumor necrosis factor alpha, granulocyte-macrophage colony-stimulating factor, and interleukin-6, which in turn enhances bone resorption through increased recruitment, differentiation, and activation of osteoclasts. HRT therapy can be adjusted to reduce the significant risk of cancer. We have been using either a topical or oral progesterone in primary (postmenopausal) osteoarthritis, which can help boost estrogen levels while appearing to have none of the risk of reproductive cancer (400-500 mg/30 mL, i.e. 1.6% w/v or 3% v/v; 1.25 mL [1/4 tsp] once daily, equal to about 20 mg/day). With this the patient can take a source of phytoestrogens such as (fermented-source) isoflavones, sprouted legumes, leafy greens etc. I would also consider vitamin D (1000 IU daily), magnesium and calcium (1200 mg ea daily), vitamin K, boron etc., as well as look at the possibility of enteropathy-induced autoimmune factors. in terms of herbs those that restore ojas/shukla/andanu and jing (in TCM) are all helpful: Shatavari (Asparagus racemosa), Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera), Gokshura (Tribulus terrestris), Amalaki (Emblica officinalis), Brahmi (Bacopa monniera), Musta (Cyperus rotundus), Guggulu (Commiphora mukul), Arjuna (Terminalia arjuna), Tila (Sesamum indica), Yashtimadhu (Glycyrrhiza glabra), Bala (Sida spp.), Kapikachu (Mucuna pruriens), Punarnava (Boerhavia diffusa), Shuktibhasma (purified oyster shell ash), Shringaputa (deer horn ash), Shilajitu, ghee, milk, goat meat Ren Shen (Panax spp.), Shan Yao (Dioscorea opposita), Huang Jing (Polygonatum sibiricum), Shu Di Huang (Rehmannia glutinosa), He Shou Wu (Polygonum multiflorum), Gou Qi Zi (Lycium chinense), Sang Shen (Morus alba) , Lu Rong (Deer or Elk velvet), Dong Chong Xia Cao (Cordyceps sinensis), Yin Yang Huo (Epimedium grandiflorum), Bai Ji Tian (Morinda officinalis), Bu Gu Zhi (Psoralea coryfolia), Du Zhong (Eucommia ulmoides), Xi Yang Shen (Panax quinquefolium), Tian Men Dong (Asparagus cochinchinensis), Shi Hu (Dendrobium nobile), Han Lian Cao (Eclipta prostata) In western herbal medicine we like herbs such as Nettle, Milky Oats, Horsetail,seaweeds and bone soups to prevent/treat osteoporosis best... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 17, 2003 > > HRT therapy can be adjusted to reduce the significant risk of cancer. > We have been using either a topical or oral progesterone in primary > (postmenopausal) osteoarthritis, which can help boost estrogen levels whoops! i meant osteoporosis. sorry... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeyaraman_s76 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Hi Dr Bhate and I am a resident of India, would like to know any furture progress regarding the POF treatments and its availability in India. I would be interested to know more, as it would help one of our loved ones. Thanks in advance to your kind response. Jey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeyaraman_s76 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Hi Dr Bhate and I am a resident of India, would like to know any furture progress regarding the POF treatments and its availability in India. I would be interested to know more, as it would help one of our loved ones. Thanks in advance to your kind response. Jey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ayurveda4uall 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 Dr Bhate ji Dhanmantri Namaha You had diagnose lots of bhasma lots of kajjali lots of herbs and many things what you didnt mentioned the Ayurved rasyan specially for the effect of premature ovarian failure.. MOstly all bhsma .. you had mentioned and also you had mentioned the triphala and every thing but i guess you forget to mentioned about The SUpari pak that is speicially working for women .. and only on those bhasma Loah bhasma is specially work for her.. Preparation number 1- pradrantak loah Garbhachintamani ras rakhartha Garbha pal ras swarn basant malti Grahini kapat ras loah bashma ------------- 3--4gm twice a day with black cumin poweder 2gm or Honey mix that special compound and take twice a day morning and evening.. compound number 2 pusyanug churna masadi churna varadi churna -- mix all those churna compound and form one .. take 6-7gm after lunch and dinner with normal luke drinking water.. Preparation number 3 Patrangasava-- 3 tea spoon Lodrasava ---- 3 tea spoon ------------ 6 tea spoon water after lunch and dinner and after compound number 2 3.. Supari Pak 1 tea spoon - 7gm supari pak + kumarkalpadrumak Ghrit 1 tea spoon before sleeping with normal luke warm milk.. take complete course regualarly and i m sure about the guranteed releif.. any doubt you can mail me.. waiting for your reply regards adwait tripathi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites