Fwd: RE:Saptashati/Soundarya Lahari

[Guest guest]

Dear Satish,

 

1. I think the following message from Harsha clarifies beyond doubt

that proper adhikara is required for Saptashati parayanam and this is

given by a SatGuru.

 

2. I have the same doubt relating to Saundarya Lahari. I have heard

that Soundarya Lahiri also requires proper initiation (although it

has become a common stuti). I have also read that each sloka can

bestow specific results through chanting the same using prescribed

procedures. I Would appreciate any comments in this regard.

 

Thanks & Regards,

Murali

 

, Satish Arigela <satisharigela>

wrote:

> --- Harsha Ramamurthy <harsha_ramamurthy@m...>

> wrote:

> > "Harsha Ramamurthy"

> > <harsha_ramamurthy@m...>

> > satisharigela

> > Fri, 02 Jul 2004 23:43:11 -0500

> > RE:Saptashati

> >

> >  

> > People recite selections from Puranas like

> > Harivamsha, Devi Bhagavata, Vishnu Bhagavata, Garuda

> > Purana etc. However, these are not recited as a Mala

> > mantra like Saptashati. Saptashati belongs to a

> > totally different genre. Kavacha, Kilaka etc.

> > chanted traditionally are also not a part of

> > Markandeya Purana. The Krama followed, wherein

> > Saptashati is not merely a Puranic passage, but a

> > Mala mantra, is essentially Tantric, derived from

> > Rudrayamala, Skandayamala, Damara Tantra, Varahi

> > Tantra, Katyayani Tantra etc. So, one can chant

[Guest guest]

, "kmurali_sg" <kmurali_sg> wrote:

>

> 2. I have the same doubt relating to Saundarya Lahari. I have

heard

> that Soundarya Lahiri also requires proper initiation (although it

> has become a common stuti). I have also read that each sloka can

> bestow specific results through chanting the same using prescribed

> procedures.

 

I think initiation in the case of Saudaryalalhari is required only

if one is chanting them as mantras for specific purposes, like

chanting a shloka a couple of 1000 times for some benefit, say, for

wealth or health etc.

 

One can chant Saundaryalahari if they want to recite it as any other

stotra without bothering about initiation.

 

Rgds

[Guest guest]

Dear all,

 

Namaste and thank you very much indeed for the clarifications.

 

1. I think one has to be practical how the strict rules would apply

to the modern times - as Kali Yuga, by design, is imperfect and

subject to severe degradations in terms of dharma, duties etc. and

the way of life.

 

2. But, at the same time, it is also very important that the

adjustments/adaptations must be sanctioned/spelt out by competent

authority(ies). Stutis like Lalitha Sahasranamam, Rudram, Lakshmi

Narayana Hrudayam etc. are commonly chanted these days although there

are injunctions.

 

3. This point may be a bit controversial but it is perhaps a truth -

how practical it is for one to understand the full meaning of the

stutis/mantras before starting chanting - for it requires reasonably

good knowledge of Sanskrit - a rarity (as well as a lengthy process).

To compound the problem, most of the publications (perhaps this

applies more to Tamil) don't even contain proper pronounciations

(such as numbering consonants). How to expect that one understands

the meaning in full when one is not even sure whether the

pronounciation is right?

 

4. The last point relates to vaideeka karma but touches on all the

above. We often do different homas/pujas/parayanams for different

purposes. In that case:

 

a. Going by the above rules, does it not imply that event purohits

need to have proper adhikara to conduct certain homams/kriyas etc.?

For example, can a purohit chant Devi Mahatmyam if he has not

performed the preparatory steps as outlined by Harsha?

 

b. In the absence of either authority (on purohit's part) and lack of

deep understanding of the kriya(on the karta's part) - what will be

the likely net result - negative or zero? (Positive is perhaps too

much to ask for!)

 

5. Finally, I remember reading in Srimad Bhagavatham (or Vishnu

Puranam - I can't recollect correctly) where Sages say that, in Kali

Yuga, if one attempts to do even a small righteous step/kriya as per

Vedas, they will bear tremendous benefits, however imperfect they

are - because in Kali Yuga, most of the Vedic traditions will be

destroyed and/or forgotten.

 

So, it is apparent and perhaps inevitable that the above also need to

be taken into account.

 

Thanks & Regards,

Murali

 

, vishwanthan Krishnamoorthy

<krishvishy> wrote:

>

> if one's intent in a mantra is overriding devotion

> without any rewards then such a person can take up any

> mantra, However such a person does not require any

> mantras every word is a mantram. Ramana Maharshi,

> Ramakrishna Paramahansa fall into the category.

>

> One's spiritual journey can be likened to navigating a

> boat in a stormy sea in darkness with icebergs. In

> such conditions only a 'guru' can dispel the darkness

> and guide to the shore.

>

> due to the limitations of the english language 'Guru'

> cannot be translated. Both Teacher and Master fall far

> short of the actual meaning

>

> A Guru is not an adhyapak or an Upadhyay though a Guru

> can be both.

>

> consider that you chance upon a snake apparently

> sleeping for some reason, you prod it with a stick

> 1. If the snake is in deep sleep (hibernation) nothing

> will happen.

> 2. If the snake is lightly sleeping it will wake up

> and most probably hurt you

> 3. If however you are fortunate to have an adept snake

> charmer by your side he will be able to guide the

> snake for your benefit.

>

> if one picks up DM for prayoga then all the rules must

> be followed, if one chants DM out of curiosity or

> devotion the results are not measurable I have heard

> of both bad as well as good results.

>

> If devotion is the reason then chanting any of the

> vast number of ashtakams and panchakams will provide a

> sound base. Knowing about the lilas by reading the

> translations of puranas etc is good preparation.

> While waiting for a 'Guru' one can start the

> preparation by learning the vast literature from a

> competent Sastrgal or some such.

>

> the famous couplet "na karmana na prajaya

> (na)dhane~na, tyagenaike amruthatvamanashu: ..." gives

> some direction to the spiritual aspirant. However

> being practical not all of us can be a renunciate, in

> which case going about our daily chores performing the

> nitya karmas should be sufficient.

> Satsanga and nama japa are prescribed for this yuga.

>

> There is of course another way but far more dangerous

> and one has to be as strong as Surathan the king.

>

> regards

> Vishwanathan

>

> --- "M. S. Ravisankar" <ravi@a...> wrote:

> > One can read/contemplate on the meanings of any of

> > these texts without any

> > initiation etc. Sometimes, it is far more efficient

> > than chanting something

> > incorrectly. Also contemplating on the meanings (in

> > the language you are

> > comfortable with) can be done at any time and any

> > place. But you cannot

> > chant mantra etc, at any place and any time -- for

> > that there are rules,

> > rules, and lots of rules.

> >

> > It is said that one who chants mantra-s without

> > knowing the meaning is like

> > a donkey carrying sandalwood (I read this in a text

> > related to vedic siixa,

> > i dont remember the reference now). It could be far

> > worse than that - like

> > signing a bond paper without reading the contents of

> > it.

> >

> >

> > Ravi

> >

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[dhakshayani 0]

Hi every body,

 

Please let me know the significance of chanting lalitha sahasranamam & sri soundarya lahari in brahmi muhurtha @ 5:30 am for 48 days i.e one mandala because i am facing lot of problem in my marriage life since i am married 8 years back i dont have any children

[shankargb 0]

 

Hi every body,

 

Please let me know the significance of chanting lalitha sahasranamam & sri soundarya lahari in brahmi muhurtha @ 5:30 am for 48 days i.e one mandala because i am facing lot of problem in my marriage life since i am married 8 years back i dont have any children

 

Soundarya Lahari is a powerful mantra. It should be chanted with devotion and complete faith and surrender to Mother. Early morning 4 am is a good time. Whatever you desire and ask for it (as part of sankalpa), She will bestow you.

 

I had chanted the slokas early morning 4 am and with in a few days, all my problems were resolved. I can vouch for power of mantra japa on any given day.

[dhakshayani 0]

thank u so much for replying i will try to chant sri soundarya lahari early in the morning.

 

Regards,

Dhakshayani