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  1. I have got dsn failure when i sent the response that ramadasa@iskcon.net is Recipient unknown . Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala ! Srivats
  2. Haribol ! I was going through Iskon links , for collecting pictures of our lord. I have come to the following site , http://www.iskcon.net/sacramento/ I have given the feedback but i am afraid this site was last updated couple of years before. i dont like srila prabhupada 's picture shown as pieces. can some do something about it ? Madhava kesava Madhana Gopala ! Srivats
  3. Haribol ! this is very inspiring versus .. about path to god.. i have posted in a thread "I have been taught from childhood Matha , Pitha , Guru and theyvam ( god ) who is to be given prefernce " This line is said to mean differnelty , i have also seen other such vedantic lines were taken in wrong sense. "Matha , Pitha , Guru and theyvam ( god ) " This is vedantic line repeated by tamil people ( i am not sure if this exists elsewhere also ) This is normally told to make them believe that we have to give respect first to Mother and father and then to Guru and then to God. But i see this line as a path to God When we are born we dont even know who is mother and father. Mom teaches the basic things and introduces the father to us. This is the first step The father then teaches things about the world , and living in that , he introdues guru to get more knowledge. This is the second step The Guru teaches us path to the god , he teaches one level above the earthly things , he introduces god to us. This is the third step. After guru teaches , we need to ourself experience and learn what is good and bad , simply by telling fire is hot and sugar is sweet will not help , we need to experience and cry once to know about fire, we need to experice the sweetness of the sugar. the fourth step is the step of self realisation. I understand and see this line as Matha - First step.Knowing about mother Pitha - Second step.Knowing about father Guru - Third step.Knowing about Guru. Theyvam ( god ) - Fourth step. Knowing about god ,Parama purusha. Its just my understanding about this , and i have expressed what i felt like. Please correct me if this is wrong. Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala /images/graemlins/laugh.gif! Srivats
  4. haribol ! sure.... Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala Srivats
  5. Hariharan ki Jai ! You have said excatly what i wanted to say in this thread, i was using different words , but my intension was to say the same thing ,being tamilian , i have read all most all good books about him , only in tamil . So my spelling in english or trying to pronounce in english or the words itslef might have gone wrong and i apologies to everyone for this. like cockraoch, i have come loong way from tamili medium student to network engineer who can speak and support europe people. But still my basic english knowledge is very very less. i am still in the process of learning. nowadays i login to the mail , very eagerly not to see any personal mails but to see the responses from other for my postings. i never felt soo eager to learn and accept things. Spirtuality and Hinduism is like a ocean . and i know my life is not enough to swim in that , or go to the deep and pick some pearls , atleast i wanted to become is a observer who can see the people swimming, and who can ask the experince of those people who had went in , and who were standing in the waves. Madhava Keava Madhana Gopala Srivats
  6. haribol ! I feel that many of the reader would have not understood what you are trying to say ... Your first posting on this thread is "You words are not beautiful cos. you underestimated me. " Although i havent really underestimated anyone. and when i apologies for uknown mistakes then next posting "Have you comprehend "well"? I only wonder Why I need a guru? This world is just a guru. " I didnt understood the context of this posting here. is this posting is for the same thread and the next one ...... "Don't sorry sorry. I tell you a fact: in this dark world no one can be perfect because everyone wears a dark garment. So I was & will not accept any condition in spite of my imperfection. " Please accept my humble apologies , i dont want to illtreat or underestimate someone , I was a egoistic and very angry person before and all i practising now,and wanted have is krishna bhakthi alone. Somehow i havent really got what u are trying to say.If you can summarise please..... Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala Srivats
  7. Haribol ! Ghari you have told , exactly what i am now and i am very much relieved that someone atleast able to understand me. My parents are sometime telling me that i have started speaking like gyaani and that doesnot make sense , whenever i speak about something about krishna , which i feel is amazing , they feel i am only exaggerating things. But today , i have no idea where u from and what you do , u told exaclty whats there in my mind , which myself not able to feel. When i read the posting , i shed coupls of drops from eyes. I will cry for him not for one or two days throughout my life , till he comes to me. Today i felt that when i loose my will power, and loose my thought that i am responsible for the happening he will be there for me. after reading your posting , i kept praying to him , to show me that he there for me , i have not heared from him for long. he didnt make it all these days . But just before few minutes, My project manager came and gave me " prasad , the ash of homam " which has taken place in our GM'S house , yesterday for Narasimha Chadurthi. I know he is there , let me wait for him. One day he make my ignorance go away , all i have to do his surrender fully to him. And i am process of doing that. Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala Srivats
  8. Haribol ! Whats the right time for God to come down to us ? I have been thinking about this for such a loong time , because i expected him to make me realise that he is there for me. I wanted him to fill the blank space between. Drowpathi when treated very badly in the Dhuriyodhana palace, started calling Krishna for help , Dhuchodhana started pulling her saree , she holded her saree with her two hands and called krishna . She cried loud but for some reason krishna didnt came quickly to save her. She was holding her saree with her two hands for loong time and Dhuchodhana had enough strength to pull it easliy. She lost her will power that she can save herself , she didnt cared about next, she raised her both hands above her head and called " Hey parandhama " , she surrended totally to krishna , remembering that whatever going to happen cannot be stopped by her will power. Next second he was there lending helping hand to her. God came to save when She lost her will and surrended totally. -------- The Gajendra elephant after getting pulled by crocodile , struggled very hard to come out of the pond , but crocodile strength was enough to keep gajendra still. Gajendra struggled for 1000 years with that crocodile and lost all its strength and will power. When it felt that his will power cannot stop whatever going to happen . It raised its trunk and shouted " Aadhimulamea pls save me !" The next second Narayana came flying in his favourite Garudan to save Gajendra. God came to save when Gajendra lost its will and surrended totally. ---------- When you loose your own will and think that there is nothing can happen at ur own will and only he can help you , Then expect him to be there for you ! And there is no history that he has dissopinted a true devotee who has surrended totally. Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala ! Srivats
  9. Haribol ! Let him come down not to the piller but to our heart to find every single Hiranya Kasibhu , who have take different names as Ego , Selfishness etc.. Let him come down to heart , sit inside and tear off all bad things ! Welcome him Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala Srivats
  10. Haribol ! Let him come down not to the piller but to our heart to find every single Hiranya Kasibhu , who have take different names as Ego , Selfishness etc.. Let him come down to heart , sit inside and tear off all bad things ! Welcome him Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala Srivats
  11. Hariom ! Dear spritual freind , Thanks for ur words, i tried keeping myslef peace, i know i cannot search peace anywhere else , i can find it only within me. I am chanting his name ,i have something in mind which keeps disturbing me , not sure what it is , i tried analysing it , i feel i am not perfect devotee, sometimes i get guitly conscious that i am not at all worth to be krishnas servent , but i didnt do anything wrong , i see all good people around me , which makes me feel i am little bit lower with respect to spirtualism , i know krishna will not discriminate among devotees , but i feel a blank space in between me and krishna. All though i try to hide it using my love and bhakthi to him, i still feel its there. I am confused and restless ! still i am praising his names only. Let me give time for him to come to me , I will wait till then. Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala Srivats
  12. haribol ! There are no words to express the attitude that god shows towards the devotee. Especially when in Narasimha avatar , Narayana showed that he can be so simple to his devotee. Prahalaadha was asked by his father Hirayana kasibhu , "Where is your lord Nayarana ? " Prahalaadha said " He will be there even in piller and in dust " and then Hiranya kasibhu contiuned " Is he is there in this pillers around me ?" Now Narayana the prama purusha doesnot know to which piller this small guy will point out , I have heared in one vedantic lecture that , Narayana took efforts to stay in all the pillers avaialable in the palace , not for any thing else , but to keep up the words of his great devotee. He is simplest of all things for his devotees , He is there here and everywhere. Lets sing together ! Hey Govinda Hey Anantha Nandha Gopala (2) Modhana Murali Dhara Shyama Gopala (2) Sundara Giridhari Natavaralaala Swami Natavaralaala (2) Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala ! Srivats
  13. haribol ! There are no words to express the attitude that god shows towards the devotee. Especially when in Narasimha avatar , Narayana showed that he can be so simple to his devotee. Prahalaadha was asked by his father Hirayana kasibhu , "Where is your lord Nayarana ? " Prahalaadha said " He will be there even in piller and in dust " and then Hiranya kasibhu contiuned " Is he is there in this pillers around me ?" Now Narayana the prama purusha doesnot know to which piller this small guy will point out , I have heared in one vedantic lecture that , Narayana took efforts to stay in all the pillers avaialable in the palace , not for any thing else , but to keep up the words of his great devotee. He is simplest of all things for his devotees , He is there here and everywhere. Lets sing together ! Hey Govinda Hey Anantha Nandha Gopala (2) Modhana Murali Dhara Shyama Gopala (2) Sundara Giridhari Natavaralaala Swami Natavaralaala (2) Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala ! Srivats
  14. haribol ! Dear Sunil , please accept my humble words on this , I have gone through your posting thrice, and never meant to argue in that. I posted exactly what i felt and i didnt denay that it cannot be a fact. If my posting was meant that way , i am really sorry for hurting you. I feel there can be more than one idea on a same subject and afterall we are all from different places, born and brought up in differnet ways, hencce different of opinion always be there ( guess otherwise world will not go on ) We are like flowers of different colours and smell and yet put together in Garland to suit our lords shoulder. All for one , One for all ! Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala Srivats
  15. Haribol Thanks for ur appreciations , i never felt happy , even when i got centum in maths , its soo engouraging , but i am not feeling high , i am thinking i am only the reason. God has many things to say through me , May be he can clarify many doibts people has through me , or raise a basic nonsens question to get good ideas thorugh that , for the benefit of people who comes to this site. Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala Srivats
  16. Haribol Thanks for giving clear words ot krishna to us.. especially that blue papragraph ..i always relate things to day to day life and understand from that , i hhad ( still have ) problems in understaind ur loong posting espeically when it has sanskrit lines in betweemn , i am sorry i did not mean to offend u , its jus that my level of understanding is very very less. I am sure there is always different of opinion and hinduism has many thorey in the same subject jus because of the fact that many forms can exists for a sam basic things. Its upto us to read all of them and take whats best for it. According to me god helps devottes in very form they like, if someone worship shiva alone , god will help him being as shiva only , according to him shiva is one and one only. Well peoples are not same ( afterall everyone are made different , otherwise there cannot be life ) and according to thier mentality they see god , and god is happy to come in every form to help thier bhakthas. I think dasavataar concept also states the same thing , even though he takes differnet 10 forms we know he is one. and its upto us to choose our own form. And i suppose god is not making any rule in that. One more step is that he is helpign those who dont even cared to know what he is , who doesnot even accept the fact all things are happening because of him . Our ancestors belived everything happens for reason and believed that they are not only responsible for all happening but the almighty. So atlease believing in god and seeing him some form enough for him to come down and help, he doesnot care about what shirt to wear ! Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala Srivats
  17. Hariom ! yeah i know its to show the humbleness , but jus that its not followed in south indian hindu , especially in brahmin ladies, Only widows wear saree to cover thier head. I still feel these are got in between ages and nothing to do with vedic culture. Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala Srivats
  18. Haribol ! In south india - hindu women never cover head like the north indians , i learnt from my mom that it considered as unaspeciaous also. So i suppose it would have raised in the middle age and not from vedic period. Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala Srivats
  19. Haribol ... The posting writtern by one of our friend mase me to start this discussion -------- "Hindus have many gods, but who is the superior god ? " Let me tell this by taking a example , lets take a real one.... never mind let it be me /images/graemlins/wink.gif According to my mom Hemavathy- I am her son , According my brother srikanth - I am his elder brother, According to my boss anantha - I am worker, According to our servent in home - I am master, According to my music master - I am student. but the very person is me alone . I am taking many forms according to the person around me. If you ask my mom , she likes me as her son alone , she wont like to see me as her master or student or worker. According to her , son srivatsan is best. If you as my project manager , he wants to see me as worker only , he describes me as good worker ( hopefully /images/graemlins/wink.gif ) sincere , polite .. according to him , worker srivatsan is the best. Similarly we like to see god in forms which is suitable for us. some people wants godness as master of arts , they see god as sarawathi. Someone as godness of properity they see god as Lakshmi. And someone as godness who can destory evil and they see Kali. In each form its very Narayana alone, everything and anything worshipped as god leads to Narayana alone . Through all these forms he showers graceness on us. I cannot be master to my music master and servent to my servent. So i will be as student only at the front of my music master, Likewise god comes in the form we like, which is making us think that only our god is higher. This is true to some extend. In my music class i am the student and student srivats is alone considered and he is best than the son srivatsan. For people who think god is Shiva alone , he helps in shiva form , and for some as krishna All for one , One for all ! Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala Srivats
  20. Haribol ! I am sorry , i have no idea about what you mean , Please forgive me for my ignorance , tell me clearly whats that you are tyring to say. Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala Srivats
  21. Haribol ! Actually it means more ... well if u ask me , Realisng that you are not the body and you are a part of paramathma , THe ultimate realisation is known as Salvaation. When you realise that you will go back to home. We all know it , only very few realise it ! Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala Srivats
  22. ...haribol ! even i started going deep into krishna after coming to this link , I am jus scared now a days , i got peace when i had bhakthi alone ( there was absoultely no gyaana at that time ) , now started to learn things and i feel i have lost my inner peace, i have questions not only to outside but to mylsef itself , i am very restless these days , i started reading a book called " where is true brahmin " , i read it like crazy , started it on saturday evening , went on till sunday 2.30 am ,slept for sometime ( i could rather say , jus lied for sometime ) , wokeup at 6 again and i was almost reading throughout the day to complete the book. I am feeling restless, although i am chanting mantraas now and then , i dont know i am very very restless ! Iwent to temple also , but i dont find the difference...Whats the hook in this ? Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala ! Srivats
  23. Haribol ! I started reading a book writtern a by one of the indian writer cho ramaswamy , " Where is true brahamnan ?" Thats a wonderfull book to read , may be if i get some time , i could try to translate the story here , it has answers to almost all questions one may have on hinduism and the principles. I am lucky enough to get this book from my masters ( one who teaches me carnatic) home , we found it when we are trying to find another book. But i still feel that book has been passed to me only by my supreme master to let me know the basics , but still i feel that the hinduism is the ocean and more to learn , all i am doing is , to stand in the shore to see some part of the ocean. One may go in deep into the hinduism ocean to bring pearls of knowledge , on emay swim , one may stand at the waves , one may stand at the sand , listening to what , the pearl man experiance is and seeing how the man swims in the ocean . I am jus like the last one, i am still feeling only a pinch of it , i feel my lifetime is not enough to know it fully ! Anyway coming to the point , when we spoke about the importance of what seven janmas and everything , when i read the book "where is true brahmin " , it speaks about the yugas ... 1.Kritha yuga ( this must be called as sathya yuga too ) 2.Thretha yuga 3.Dhwapara yuga 4.Kali yuga Kritha yuga ended by the war between Devas and ashuras Thretha yuga ended by the war between Rama and Ravanan. Dhwapara yuga ended by the war between Pandavas and Gauravas, its been stated that Dharama puthrar has lived as maharaja for next 36 years after the Mahabarath. And when they heared that krishna has passed ,(as the duty of the avatar has ended ), it stated that kali yuga has started that time...... / (can someone pls tell how krishnas last days were ?) / Dharma puthrar has given the crown to parichith ( who is grandson of arjuna ) and left with drowpathi to himalayaas. So it been nearly 5000 years since the kali yuga has begun and christian bible also states the same thing. /( I know this might lead to so many discussions , i have said whatever i have read , there could be differnet of opinion and , if there is proof lets accept it ) / The totla of all yugs can be said 43,20,000 man years, this is called " Manivarthama ". here comes the best part of it , " Its believed that there are total of 14 Manivarthamas, and 7 are alreaady over. The book doesnot lean much into janmaas concept , but still i am able to get answers of some part of it . When cursing someone its mentioned that ," even for next 7 janmaas ( sometimes refered 7 generations too ), u will suffer like this " But when showing the gratefullness to someone its been mentioned that , "even if i take 14 janmaas and work for you , i cannot repay u " So , the clue is here, that 7 is is already over and 7 more to come ... so when cursing we are taking the rest seven into consideration , where as when showing gratitude , we are considering total 14 janmaas together , i.e. even if i take 14 janmaas ( one couldnot as 7 is alread over , but still), and work for u , i wont be able to pay you back. This is very ciritcal and i am not able to conclude furthur , as someitmes its reffered that we are taking birth again and again in the same yuga ( i guess the birth should be once in cycle of 4 yugas ), If this is the case then 14 janmass may exceed .... If someone knows best on it please post it... --------- To add to it , i serached for the importance of 7 , and i got the below... " The Celestial Guardians were offered 7 janmas as devotees or 3 janmas as enemies of the Lord. The blessing in disguise was that their death would be at the hands of the Lord Himself. Rather than being separated from the Lord for 7 generations, they preferred to be born as enemies to the Lord for 3 generations so that they could be with the Lord faster. " You know , Ravanan , Hiranya kasibhu and Kamsan are three of them . /( Someone knows the rest ? )/ ------------- One more for the importance of 7 7 Holes on krishnaas fluet First Hole of the Bansri is for Shri Swaminiji and Shri Radhaji. And next Six holes are as follow 1) For Shri Chandravaliji 2) For Sixteen Thousand Agnikumarika 3) For Cows of Vraj 4) For Haridasvarya Shri Govardhanji(Girirajji) 5) For Vrajliasth Birds,Animal etc.. 6) For Devi Devta and for All the Tress etc and for all who resides in vrajbhumi. /(Can someone explain the 6 thing , i am not able to get most of it ) / ---------- One diamond to the crown the spiritual music , the carnatic music contains 7 swaraas ! ------ My search for spiritual guru is not needed i think , Krishna himself comes in various rupaas, to teach me .... I take one step towards him , he take 100 stepts towards me ! Madava Kesava Madhana Gopala ! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif Radhey Shyam Srivats
  24. hariom ! ------ it is just a local tradition ------- I think our ancestors have done everything with reason , said everything with valid reason behind. We need to find the reason ! Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala Srivats
  25. hariom ! No no , its not that way , i jus wanted to find out the tatparya behind it. Madhava Kesava Madhana Gopala Srivats
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