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Hare Krishna comes of age: the movement has matured into a mainstream religion after years of tumult and scandal—but escaping the past never is easy Michael Kress SUPER BOWL SUNDAY, and Boston is fixated on its Patriots. Yet, here, in the city's chic Back Bay neighborhood, I am with just about the only people not thinking of football. Here, as most pregame parties are starting, a horn sounds, and a familiar chant is repeated over and over: "Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna...." If you thought the Hare Krishna’s faded away with bell-bottoms and disco, the scene at 72 Commonwealth Ave. tells a different story. This former boarding house serves as the local temple of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON)--the Hare Krishna’s. While the mantra may bring back memories of a past era, a look at the worshippers this Sunday makes clear these are vastly different Hare Krishnas than those once ubiquitous in American cities. Thirty years ago, this room would have been filled to capacity with devotees looking every bit the stereotype: white, young, wearing colorful robes, the men sporting heads shaved except for one tuft at the crown of their scalp. That was then, but this is now, and these are the faces of Krishna in the 21st century. The robed monks are here, but fewer in number. They are worshipping alongside people dressed in jeans or other casual clothes. Maybe half the faces are white, with the rest belonging to Indian immigrants and their American-born children. They are students, pharmacists, computer programmers, stay-at-home moms. If they were not here, chanting in praise of a Hindu deity whose likeness graces the ornate altar, they could blend in easily at any of the Super Bowl parties going on throughout New England. "It's entirely possible these days that a Hare Krishna could be living next door to you and you wouldn't know it," says Middlebury College professor Burke Rochford, who has studied ISKCON since the 1970s. "They're just now part of the culture in ways that the average person couldn't have imagined some 20 or 25 years ago.... Now we're looking at what I just think of as an American religious community." If the Hare Krishnas seemed to capture the nonconformist zeitgeist of the 1960s, today's ISKCON likewise reflects the reigning cultural mood, with its emphasis on responsibility and balance--of career and family, of spontaneity and constraint, of worldly and otherworldly pursuits. Today's Hare Kristmas live as part of, and not apart from, mainstream American society. The overwhelming majority make their homes outside the temple, work in secular professions, get married, have children, and cope with all the accompanying anxieties, like paying rent, finding quality schools, and being solid citizens and good parents. For support, they look to their religious community, putting ISKCON in a role it is not used to playing. "We're addressing the needs of their kids for Sunday School, and parking lots, and playgrounds," notes Anuttama Dasa, an ISKCON leader and spokesman. He speaks enthusiastically about committees and training programs and systems--just the kind of institutionalization early converts were fleeing. "Twenty-year-olds who are single can live pretty simple," Anuttama points out. "You don't need playgrounds if your whole community is 20-year-olds. You may not need marriage counseling. You may not need to deal with a lot of the different kinds of social issues that churches and synagogues all over the country deal with." It was not an easy transition, but without it, ISKCON easily could have faded away like so many flash-in-the-pan spiritual fads. That it is still here is testament to the dedication of its members and the attractiveness of its message. Yet, its history also provides a cautionary tale about the dangers of unbridled spiritual exuberance and what it takes to "make it" as a religion in the U.S. Four decades after its founding, ISKCON is both thriving and struggling, hopeful for a bright future while facing immense challenges just as it is getting its house in order. It was on another Super Bowl Sunday, this one in 1992, that Paul Swinford fast stepped into a Hare Krishna temple. Thirteen years later, now known as Premananda Dasa, he is pastor of the Boston community. At 40, Premananda again is adapting to a major transition. After living in the temple for 10 years, he got married and moved to New Hampshire, where his wife, also a Hare Krishna, works for a financial-services company. He continues to work full time for the temple, so among other adjustments, Premananda has joined America's commuter class, now driving 90 minutes to the place he called home for a decade. After graduating from college, Swinford worked in grassroots politics before joining the corporate world to pay off debts. He developed an interest in spirituality and was intrigued by the personal relationship with God promised by the Bhagavad Gita, a Hindu scripture central to ISKCON theology. After that first Sunday service, he started attending regularly and worshipping at home. He then took a step that increasingly is rare. His debts paid off, he quit his job to move into the temple. There, he eschewed bookselling--the occupation of most temple residents then--and instead assumed a variety of administrative roles: treasurer, secretary, congregational director. Like ISKCON broadly, the temple is at a pivotal moment in its history. The temple was slapped with an anticult lawsuit by a former member in 1976, a common occurrence then. After spending more than 20 years wending its way through the system, the two sides settled for an undisclosed sum in the late 1990s. That financial burden removed, the community can look ahead for the first time. "For us to have finally gotten to a point in the late 1990s where we had no debts, where we had all our invoices paid, this was revolutionary for us practically," Premananda says during a conversation in his temple office, the first time I have seen him in "Western" rather than devotional clothes. What will the community do with that freedom? Premananda goes on excitedly about "cultivating congregational leadership" and "systematizing" management. "When ISKCON started, it was a missionary organization, and most of the emphasis was placed on expanding the mission. Right now our primary emphasis is more liturgical and pastoral." Boston's Hare Krishnas range in commitment from occasional attendance to near-constant presence. Many are in their 20s or 30s and joined within the past 10 years. Young couples and their toddlers represent hope for the future, while devotees in their 50s and 60s constitute a solid foundation. The temple is undergoing a major management reorganization and, with only 16 devotees living in-house, lay leadership will be key. A committee will work on articulating a long-term vision for the temple, and a "theological director" will be named. "Will we be a community that continues to struggle with just a few devotees taking responsibility and some degree of a revolving door, people coming and going?" Premananda asks. "Or will we go where the primary source of our stability and strength is the congregation, and inspire members of the congregation to take more leadership roles, more responsibility roles?" Throughout ISKCON, similar transformations are taking place. Temple presidents attend management courses; counselors offer premarital classes; and lay leaders worry about college acceptances among day-school students. Temples are participating in interfaith activities, running social service programs, and building for their members "parking lots and playgrounds," a phrase Anuttama uses frequently. "We've kind of done things in the past by simple inspiration, perspiration, and we're starting to see more clearly that we need more structures, systems, and things like that," Anuttama explains. "Our duty is to make sure we create communities and an institution that care for the variety of people's needs, so they want to come to us. We can't think they have to come to us. That'll be our downfall." In Boston, Premananda dreams of someday opening a seminary and establishing a rural community to supplement the urban temple. That is for another day, though. First, there is the business of smoothing out everyday temple management and strengthening the commitment of existing congregants. Before leaving his office, I comment on a bookcase prominently displaying a surprising title: Nori Muster's Betrayal of the Spirit, a bitter memoir of the author's ISKCON involvement. The name alone made me assume that people like Premandanda would treat the book derisively, but he accepts Muster's rebuke. "It's something that helps to remind me I have a position of responsibility in the temple," Premananda maintains. "If we don't learn from the past, I'm afraid we'll repeat it." When an elderly monk arrived in New York by ship in September, 1965, no one could have predicted that he would establish the first major orthodox Hindu presence in the West--for Westerners. The story of the man known as A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada is lore among Hare Krishnas. Inspired by his gum to spread Krishna consciousness in the West, Prabhupada left India at 69 and suffered two heart attacks on the voyage. Chanting in New York's Tompkins Square Park, Prabhupada began to gather disciples and launched the International Society for Krishna Consciousness in July, 1966. With public chanting and proselytizing in places like airports, ISKCON grew rapidly, opening new temples and farm communities regularly. Four decades later, the movement maintains 50 temples in the U.S., and a total of nearly 400 worldwide. It claims 100,000 adherents in America and 1,000,000 globally, though accurate statistics do not exist and scholars say the numbers likely are smaller. Prabhupada brought with him a monotheistic Hinduism known as Gaudiya Vaishnava, which is based on the teachings of the 15th-century Bengali monk Caitanya, himself considered an incarnation of Krishna. Caitanya preached devotion through simple living and the repetitive chanting of the Lord's name, giving birth to the mantra that defines ISKCON in the Western mind. In the U.S., Prabhupada adapted the tradition in some ways; most notably, he preached gender equality and initiated women into the priesthood, which was not done in India. Living "Krishna conscious" starts with refraining from four activities: gambling, intoxication, meat eating, and illicit sex, which is taken to mean sex without marriage and only for procreation within marriage. Temple life is rigorous, with morning worship beginning before dawn. On Sundays, the entire community gathers to worship and feast. ISKCON offers different levels of formal commitment. The most common is "initiation"--receiving a devotional name and vowing to chant 16 rounds daily. In ISKCON's early days, most devotees also took a second vow, becoming priests, which allowed them to worship on the altar. Many took vows of celibacy. Prabhupada's early disciples took to it with such zeal that being a serious Hare Krishna came to mean the total commitment of monasticism. Book distribution and proselytizing became their primary focus. They severed ties with their former lives, including their families and, through missionary work, encouraged--sometimes pressured--new recruits to do likewise. Cult hostility From the beginning, Hare Krishnas faced hostility, as Americans took one look at their youth robed and shaved and cried "cult." Ironically, it was partly ISKCON's fidelity to tradition that made Americans uncomfortable; while other Eastern transplants--such as Transcendental Meditation--did not demand major lifestyle changes, Prabhupada's followers fully embraced an Indian religion and culture. "Dancing in the streets with okra robes on your men, women in saris with the red dot on their forehead, and reciting in Bengali old Krishna stories that originate from the 16th century is absolutely deemed to be cultic," asserts Larry Shinn, president of Berea College and author of Dark Lord: Cult Images and the Hare Krishnas in America. "But the 'strange' behavior is really Indian and Hindu. It's not some aberrant human being who's developed this system in the last 10or 15 years."

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Interesting what you write Bart Prabhu, however, what do you mean - "while reality itself simply is what it is".

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There is almost no free will in the body we are in, we are simply dragged around by the demands of the body and mind we have slowly created over the millions of live's we have developed with the very little free will we have, that covers our real identity. The choice to use free will allows us to choose to leave Gods Kingdom and attempt our own thing in the material. But quickly in the confines of the material world or mahat tattva trapped within the material bodies we lease off Maha Vishnu, we learn we have very little so called freedom and therefore spend most of our time serving our material bodies. Next time the body is forcing you to go to the stool house, practise your free will and ability to choose and say no

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 10.89.22/23 The brāhmaṇa took the corpse and placed it at the door of King Ugrasena's court. Then, agitated and lamenting miserably, he spoke the following. [The brāhmaṇa said:] This duplicitous, greedy enemy of brāhmaṇas, this unqualified ruler addicted to sense pleasure, has caused my son's death by some discrepancies in the execution of his duties. PURPORT "Presuming that he himself had done nothing to cause his son's death, the brāhmaṇa thought it reasonable to blame King Ugrasena. In the Vedic social system, the monarch is considered responsible for everything occurring in his kingdom, good or bad. Even in a democracy, a manager who takes charge of some group or project should accept personal responsibility for any failure rather than, as is so common today, trying to place the blame on his subordinates or superiors". Click here to listen to class given by His Grace Aniruddha dasa 10/8/2008

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 10.89.22/23 The brāhmaṇa took the corpse and placed it at the door of King Ugrasena's court. Then, agitated and lamenting miserably, he spoke the following. [The brāhmaṇa said:] This duplicitous, greedy enemy of brāhmaṇas, this unqualified ruler addicted to sense pleasure, has caused my son's death by some discrepancies in the execution of his duties. PURPORT "Presuming that he himself had done nothing to cause his son's death, the brāhmaṇa thought it reasonable to blame King Ugrasena. In the Vedic social system, the monarch is considered responsible for everything occurring in his kingdom, good or bad. Even in a democracy, a manager who takes charge of some group or project should accept personal responsibility for any failure rather than, as is so common today, trying to place the blame on his subordinates or superiors". Click here to listen to class given by His Grace Aniruddha dasa 10/8/2008

Memorial for Sudama part 2 Sudama had a deep spiritual side and a little of the worldly side too. He lamented that he was dying and said to me often that he would like to take me to Paris. He exclaimed where was I all his life? And I laughed with him, thinking such is karma. Many devotees, young and old would come visit him. I remember Radha Kunda came a few times. He was very emotional about seeing his Godbrother in the process of leaving his body. We were alone a lot and I would just sit and chant by his side. Sometimes I would read from the Bhagavad Gita. Always a Prabhupada tape would be playing. His sickness took it’s toll quickly. The first sign was he would have diarrhea and couldn’t control his bowels. He couldn’t really walk to the bathroom alone so I would semi-carry him. He was embarrassed that a woman had to help him and I reminded him that I am not my body, I am spirit soul. To take it as Krsna’s mercy and not think of me as a woman. I felt this must have been very humbling for him. After a few days his bowels really went out of control so we had to use adult diapers. I would change him and clean him up. I was never scared of contracting Aids because I knew fully that Krishna would protect me. He didn’t have open sores, only at the very end he started getting bed sores. I was never affected by the stool or urine, and just did it out of duty, thinking if I was dying how badly would I want someone to take care of me like this. I wanted to help him feel comfortable with my presence and not feel attached or ashamed of what was going on during the different stages. I wished for him to just have peace of mind and want to have the desire to go back to Krishna, back to Srila Prabhupada. So in the empty temple apartment we stayed. During the course of taking care of Sudama devotees would bring me things that were special and important. I had Vrndavan dust, Ganges and Radha Kunda water, tilak, tulasi leaf, oftentimes garlands and other things. Someone brought a really nice big brass medallian of Lord Nrsingha deva that we put on his chest during his last hour. Lots of pictures of Srila Prabhupada, Rukmini Dwarakadish and so many spiritual momentos. One day when I was walking quickly to my apartment to shower and change Svavas stopped me in the street to thank me for the service of taking care of Sudama. He said he had no one to do it. Little did he know I was in my heart profusely thanking him and Krishna for giving me this opportunity. It was so valuable to me. Approxiamately three days before he left his body Claire, Sudama’s mother and Sudama were discussing the cremation and other arrangements. Sudama looked at me and begged me to take his ashes to India. I was a little taken aback and didn’t expect it. I could not refuse a dying man and I agreed. I have never been to India and in the past years I really didn’t want to go because I didn’t want to get sick. I didn’t want to get malaria, jaundice or any other third world country illness. This time it was different. I wanted to go. Claire didn’t offer to pay for the trip and that put me out a bit. I was almost out of money and had just enough for India. I hesitated but felt moved and inclined to do this. So I paid for the trip myself and went to Vrindavan and Mayapur. The last two weeks prior to Sudama dying he could barely eat. I got a dropper and would drop some water down his mouth oftentimes. I could see him getting weaker and skinnier each day. One morning around 2:00 a. m. I was awakened by Sudama gurgling and struggling. This scared me a little bit and I immediately got up to chant Hare Krishna and hold his hand. I could hear him try to enunciate the Hare Krishna mantra through his intrepid gurgles. He would say, “ ha….. kh…. kh….. ra…. ha….. “ and gurgle at the same time. Sudama was trying to chant and he was struggling. This went on for a few minutes. I thought this is it. He’s dying. I chanted Hare Krishna and just prayed, please let this be auspicious. Then all of a sudden he turned to me and in a clear voice said, “I am going to pick my time to die.” Then he layed his head down and fell asleep. I was stunned. I was still a little scared but hearing him breathe gave me consolation. I chanted for a while and then went back to sleep. In the morning he told me he remembered what happened. He saw the Vishnudutas come in the room and he wasn’t ready. He tried to chant Hare Krsna and couldn’t. Then he had peace and fell asleep. The next morning I thought I should get stronger. I shouldn’t be scared of death, my fears might show to Sudama and increase some fear in him. I need to welcome death and help Sudama to want to leave his body in a good strong spiritual fashion. The doctor and nurses came. The doctor said it was only a matter of one or two days. Then later he said probably a day. We called his mother and other close friends. In the morning he looked very different. His neck, chest and face had another changed look that is hard to describe. It looked a little stiff, a lot different. I recognized the time is close. I still gave him drops of water, I still chanted, but this time I got what I needed all together by his bedside. I made sure the Vrndavan dust was close by, Ganges and Radha Kunda water, fresh tilak, tulasi leaf, and yes more garlands. I started regularly sprinkling him with Vrndavan dust and anointing him with Ganges and Radha Kunda water and I spelled Hare Krsna on the side of his stomach in large lettering. Sometimes he would get phone calls from devotees. Even though he was at the point he couldn’t talk, he could hear and acknowledge. Sometimes he had the strength to nod his head or squeeze my hand. The nurse would take his vitals and the doctor said only a few hours. At a late point almost just before he left his body the doctor started giving him morphine shots because he said his pain was very intense. Still once in a while I could feel Sudama squeezing my hand in a form of communication, however, the squeezes were very light now. He had no strength. It was around 4:20 in the morning and I called Krodhashamani. She in turn called other devotees and the room quickly became filled with devotees. A nice kirtan started. He was full of garlands, he had charinamrta. At one point his old friend Tamal Krishna called and told him to think of Prabhupada and Krishna to go back to Krishna and Prabhupada. Tamal told me to put Tulasi leaf in his mouth under his tongue. We chanted and chanted. The room was ecstatic. Sudama left his body, his mouth a little open, however he had a golden aura and looked very very beautiful. Lord Nrsingha deva on his chest and Prabhupada close by waiting to welcome him home. Incidentally, even though the doctors said he was dying of Aids on his death certificate it said he had heart failure. The doctor was constantly checking his pulse and heart and almost was able to time his death. His heart gave out. His mother Claire lamented however she knew he was back in the spiritual sky and she helped with the cremation and other arrangements. Then my journey to India began. The cremation was delayed due to several days of intense earthquakes. I never before attended a cremation. Many devotees came. There was a nice rip roaring kirtan and his body was burned. Put in an urn. His mother gave me the urn and then I made arrangements to go to India. Even though it was the first time I went and I was traveling alone I didn’t feel any anxiety. On the airplane, the long trip, I often contemplated Sudama in his urn, accompanied by Srila Prabhupada and Krsna. They were flying the plane. They were all with me. It was a good journey and made me very happy, very excited that I would go on a pilgrimage to the Holy Dham. I stayed in Vrndavan for a week and then to Mayapur for a week and back to Vrndavan for a half week and then back to Los Angeles. A devotee, Upendranath, picked me up. I arrived at night and could smell the cow dung burning. I liked the smell. I heard the pigs eating the garbage and snorting. It was an interesting new sound to me. When I arrived the only place that was available to stay in was a room down the road. The toilet was a hole in the floor and the shower was freezing. I didn’t mind at all. I was on a special mission and this is the Holy Place. When I laid down to rest I heard all the peacocks and other animals with their sounds. It was so beautiful and reminded me very much of that blue boy Krishna playing his flute. I woke up and went to Mangala Arotik. Sri Krsna Balaram Mandir was so exquisite. Large, full of ornate marble, and the deities enraptured my very breath. I felt so fortunate to be there. The next day I got a room at the temple. It was a simple but pleasant room and more opulent than I expected. I was happy to have a room in the temple complex. The next day I met a rigshaw walla (so called by chance). He was specifically someone that was recommended to me. He was out in the front of the temple just waiting for his next ride. He told me his name and I knew everything would be okay. Each morning he would pick me up, we would go around town visiting temples and other places and at early evening he would bring me back to the temple. He was my guide. One time he took me to the woods to see a very old babaji who was 106 years old. The babaji was performing puja. After puja he gave me maha prasadam. I felt very blessed. My most important part of the journey was to go to Mayapur and give the ashes to Jayapataka Maharaj. After arriving there I informed the devotees the reason for my visit. I was greeted very warmly. I gave the ashes to a devotee. In a few days there was a big kirtan and we went chanting to the spot where Sudama wanted his ashes strewn. That is where the three rivers meet, The Saraswati, The Ganges and The Jamuna. This is a very sacred place and many devotees go for Khumba Mehla there. Trivem Sangam – union of the holy rivers. We had a great chanting party and puja. Then back to the temple to honor and enjoy a big feast. After a few more days I returned to Vrndavan. During my stay in India at the beginning I was very careful of what I ate and drank. I had a burner and cooked soup for myself but mostly ate granola, nuts and very simple prasadam for the first week. While I was in Mayapur after a while I wanted to get purified and thought if I get sick in India that would be a good purification. I started drinking tap water and eating temple prasadam. I didn’t get sick even though I tried. Ever since this big event I have always thought about how blessed I was to take care of Sudama and how important it is to take care of dying devotees and help them think of Krishna and Prabhupada. I would very much like to do that service again. It is the most important act of spirituality for me. And I also pray somehow I can be in this same situation and be guided by a devotee. That would be my success. For years I would think of Sudama and wonder what kind of karma that is to be placed in this situation. Taking care of a godbrother and someone who was a sannyasi at one time, a servant of Prabhupada. That is good karma for me. One day I was on the computer googling things about Sudama and came across a letter from Srila Prabhupada to Sudama thanking him for his letter. In the text of the letter Srila Prabhupada is accepting me as his disciple based on Sudama’s recommendation. I was so surprised, as I didn’t know this. I thought the temple president had asked Prabhupada to accept me as his disciple. Maybe taking care of Sudama was my way of expressing gratitude for connecting me with Srila Prabhupada. I am ever grateful. Hare Krishna. Your servant, Omkara devi dasi <!-- end #wrap -->

Memorial for Sudama part 2 Sudama had a deep spiritual side and a little of the worldly side too. He lamented that he was dying and said to me often that he would like to take me to Paris. He exclaimed where was I all his life? And I laughed with him, thinking such is karma. Many devotees, young and old would come visit him. I remember Radha Kunda came a few times. He was very emotional about seeing his Godbrother in the process of leaving his body. We were alone a lot and I would just sit and chant by his side. Sometimes I would read from the Bhagavad Gita. Always a Prabhupada tape would be playing. His sickness took it’s toll quickly. The first sign was he would have diarrhea and couldn’t control his bowels. He couldn’t really walk to the bathroom alone so I would semi-carry him. He was embarrassed that a woman had to help him and I reminded him that I am not my body, I am spirit soul. To take it as Krsna’s mercy and not think of me as a woman. I felt this must have been very humbling for him. After a few days his bowels really went out of control so we had to use adult diapers. I would change him and clean him up. I was never scared of contracting Aids because I knew fully that Krishna would protect me. He didn’t have open sores, only at the very end he started getting bed sores. I was never affected by the stool or urine, and just did it out of duty, thinking if I was dying how badly would I want someone to take care of me like this. I wanted to help him feel comfortable with my presence and not feel attached or ashamed of what was going on during the different stages. I wished for him to just have peace of mind and want to have the desire to go back to Krishna, back to Srila Prabhupada. So in the empty temple apartment we stayed. During the course of taking care of Sudama devotees would bring me things that were special and important. I had Vrndavan dust, Ganges and Radha Kunda water, tilak, tulasi leaf, oftentimes garlands and other things. Someone brought a really nice big brass medallian of Lord Nrsingha deva that we put on his chest during his last hour. Lots of pictures of Srila Prabhupada, Rukmini Dwarakadish and so many spiritual momentos. One day when I was walking quickly to my apartment to shower and change Svavas stopped me in the street to thank me for the service of taking care of Sudama. He said he had no one to do it. Little did he know I was in my heart profusely thanking him and Krishna for giving me this opportunity. It was so valuable to me. Approxiamately three days before he left his body Claire, Sudama’s mother and Sudama were discussing the cremation and other arrangements. Sudama looked at me and begged me to take his ashes to India. I was a little taken aback and didn’t expect it. I could not refuse a dying man and I agreed. I have never been to India and in the past years I really didn’t want to go because I didn’t want to get sick. I didn’t want to get malaria, jaundice or any other third world country illness. This time it was different. I wanted to go. Claire didn’t offer to pay for the trip and that put me out a bit. I was almost out of money and had just enough for India. I hesitated but felt moved and inclined to do this. So I paid for the trip myself and went to Vrindavan and Mayapur. The last two weeks prior to Sudama dying he could barely eat. I got a dropper and would drop some water down his mouth oftentimes. I could see him getting weaker and skinnier each day. One morning around 2:00 a. m. I was awakened by Sudama gurgling and struggling. This scared me a little bit and I immediately got up to chant Hare Krishna and hold his hand. I could hear him try to enunciate the Hare Krishna mantra through his intrepid gurgles. He would say, “ ha….. kh…. kh….. ra…. ha….. “ and gurgle at the same time. Sudama was trying to chant and he was struggling. This went on for a few minutes. I thought this is it. He’s dying. I chanted Hare Krishna and just prayed, please let this be auspicious. Then all of a sudden he turned to me and in a clear voice said, “I am going to pick my time to die.” Then he layed his head down and fell asleep. I was stunned. I was still a little scared but hearing him breathe gave me consolation. I chanted for a while and then went back to sleep. In the morning he told me he remembered what happened. He saw the Vishnudutas come in the room and he wasn’t ready. He tried to chant Hare Krsna and couldn’t. Then he had peace and fell asleep. The next morning I thought I should get stronger. I shouldn’t be scared of death, my fears might show to Sudama and increase some fear in him. I need to welcome death and help Sudama to want to leave his body in a good strong spiritual fashion. The doctor and nurses came. The doctor said it was only a matter of one or two days. Then later he said probably a day. We called his mother and other close friends. In the morning he looked very different. His neck, chest and face had another changed look that is hard to describe. It looked a little stiff, a lot different. I recognized the time is close. I still gave him drops of water, I still chanted, but this time I got what I needed all together by his bedside. I made sure the Vrndavan dust was close by, Ganges and Radha Kunda water, fresh tilak, tulasi leaf, and yes more garlands. I started regularly sprinkling him with Vrndavan dust and anointing him with Ganges and Radha Kunda water and I spelled Hare Krsna on the side of his stomach in large lettering. Sometimes he would get phone calls from devotees. Even though he was at the point he couldn’t talk, he could hear and acknowledge. Sometimes he had the strength to nod his head or squeeze my hand. The nurse would take his vitals and the doctor said only a few hours. At a late point almost just before he left his body the doctor started giving him morphine shots because he said his pain was very intense. Still once in a while I could feel Sudama squeezing my hand in a form of communication, however, the squeezes were very light now. He had no strength. It was around 4:20 in the morning and I called Krodhashamani. She in turn called other devotees and the room quickly became filled with devotees. A nice kirtan started. He was full of garlands, he had charinamrta. At one point his old friend Tamal Krishna called and told him to think of Prabhupada and Krishna to go back to Krishna and Prabhupada. Tamal told me to put Tulasi leaf in his mouth under his tongue. We chanted and chanted. The room was ecstatic. Sudama left his body, his mouth a little open, however he had a golden aura and looked very very beautiful. Lord Nrsingha deva on his chest and Prabhupada close by waiting to welcome him home. Incidentally, even though the doctors said he was dying of Aids on his death certificate it said he had heart failure. The doctor was constantly checking his pulse and heart and almost was able to time his death. His heart gave out. His mother Claire lamented however she knew he was back in the spiritual sky and she helped with the cremation and other arrangements. Then my journey to India began. The cremation was delayed due to several days of intense earthquakes. I never before attended a cremation. Many devotees came. There was a nice rip roaring kirtan and his body was burned. Put in an urn. His mother gave me the urn and then I made arrangements to go to India. Even though it was the first time I went and I was traveling alone I didn’t feel any anxiety. On the airplane, the long trip, I often contemplated Sudama in his urn, accompanied by Srila Prabhupada and Krsna. They were flying the plane. They were all with me. It was a good journey and made me very happy, very excited that I would go on a pilgrimage to the Holy Dham. I stayed in Vrndavan for a week and then to Mayapur for a week and back to Vrndavan for a half week and then back to Los Angeles. A devotee, Upendranath, picked me up. I arrived at night and could smell the cow dung burning. I liked the smell. I heard the pigs eating the garbage and snorting. It was an interesting new sound to me. When I arrived the only place that was available to stay in was a room down the road. The toilet was a hole in the floor and the shower was freezing. I didn’t mind at all. I was on a special mission and this is the Holy Place. When I laid down to rest I heard all the peacocks and other animals with their sounds. It was so beautiful and reminded me very much of that blue boy Krishna playing his flute. I woke up and went to Mangala Arotik. Sri Krsna Balaram Mandir was so exquisite. Large, full of ornate marble, and the deities enraptured my very breath. I felt so fortunate to be there. The next day I got a room at the temple. It was a simple but pleasant room and more opulent than I expected. I was happy to have a room in the temple complex. The next day I met a rigshaw walla (so called by chance). He was specifically someone that was recommended to me. He was out in the front of the temple just waiting for his next ride. He told me his name and I knew everything would be okay. Each morning he would pick me up, we would go around town visiting temples and other places and at early evening he would bring me back to the temple. He was my guide. One time he took me to the woods to see a very old babaji who was 106 years old. The babaji was performing puja. After puja he gave me maha prasadam. I felt very blessed. My most important part of the journey was to go to Mayapur and give the ashes to Jayapataka Maharaj. After arriving there I informed the devotees the reason for my visit. I was greeted very warmly. I gave the ashes to a devotee. In a few days there was a big kirtan and we went chanting to the spot where Sudama wanted his ashes strewn. That is where the three rivers meet, The Saraswati, The Ganges and The Jamuna. This is a very sacred place and many devotees go for Khumba Mehla there. Trivem Sangam – union of the holy rivers. We had a great chanting party and puja. Then back to the temple to honor and enjoy a big feast. After a few more days I returned to Vrndavan. During my stay in India at the beginning I was very careful of what I ate and drank. I had a burner and cooked soup for myself but mostly ate granola, nuts and very simple prasadam for the first week. While I was in Mayapur after a while I wanted to get purified and thought if I get sick in India that would be a good purification. I started drinking tap water and eating temple prasadam. I didn’t get sick even though I tried. Ever since this big event I have always thought about how blessed I was to take care of Sudama and how important it is to take care of dying devotees and help them think of Krishna and Prabhupada. I would very much like to do that service again. It is the most important act of spirituality for me. And I also pray somehow I can be in this same situation and be guided by a devotee. That would be my success. For years I would think of Sudama and wonder what kind of karma that is to be placed in this situation. Taking care of a godbrother and someone who was a sannyasi at one time, a servant of Prabhupada. That is good karma for me. One day I was on the computer googling things about Sudama and came across a letter from Srila Prabhupada to Sudama thanking him for his letter. In the text of the letter Srila Prabhupada is accepting me as his disciple based on Sudama’s recommendation. I was so surprised, as I didn’t know this. I thought the temple president had asked Prabhupada to accept me as his disciple. Maybe taking care of Sudama was my way of expressing gratitude for connecting me with Srila Prabhupada. I am ever grateful. Hare Krishna. Your servant, Omkara devi dasi <!-- end #wrap -->

Memorial for SudamaGreat story to share with the devotees of Lord Krsna. By Omkara devi dasi Memoires of Sudama Maharaj Leaving His Body And My Experiences Taking Care of Him August 5, 2008 I pay my respectful obeisances to my loving Spiritual Master A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, my eternal guru whom I love and thank for giving me the Hare Krishna mantra and instructions on devotional service. I pay my obeisances to all the assembled devotees who I know, whom I don’t know but am spiritually related to and to all the spirit souls I have known in this lifetime that have left their bodies and gone back to Srila Prabhupada, to Vaikuntha, reunited once again in devotional love. Recently my Godsister Koumadakee left her body and at her memorial service many old Godbrothers and Godsisters gathered, along with newer devotees and we had a very nice memorial. I felt so close to Srila Prabhupada during the kirtan, seeing and hearing Baradraj sing, being the m. c., hearing the chanting and memorial. I contemplated how fortunate we are to have each other. How fortunate we are to serve and be connected. I pray to somehow once again serve someone who leaves his body, to chant by his/her side and help that person, that spirit soul have the peace of mind, the contentment to go back to Srila Prabhupada, back to Krsna. When I was young I often was thinking about death and was convinced about the existence of the soul. I remember I was about 11 years old and saw a car accident on the highway and above the sprawled body there was a glowing emanating ball, glow of light hovering. I knew, without a doubt, without anyone telling me, that was the soul hovering. Hovering from attachment, bewilderment, and waiting for it’s future fate, it’s future journey of existence. That was one of the starting points of my contemplating the existence of the soul after death. I knew there was more. I was fascinated with death and often wondered what actually happens at that time. For years I wanted to see death in another person and experience it firsthand. Approximately 14 years ago when I moved back into the temple I took a break from having a 9:00 – 5:00 job and went back into spiritual activities. I started chanting again and offering my food, going to the temple regularly and really liking it. I had a close friend Krodhashamani who was just starting her yoga business and we became good friends. It was nice living at the temple again. I never thought I’d like it. It’s like this…. you cannot pretend to be spiritual, you must feel it from deep within. You can’t fake it. I went through a period of growth, perhaps trying to grow emotionally as a person and thinking maybe I missed something because I became a Hare Krishna at 17 years of age. So I dated a little, I worked full time, overtime, sometimes on weekends, and I had a regular life. But after I got laid off and after my mom died I got a small inheritance and at that time I felt free, and I felt like I really wanted to be more spiritual. It was good and felt good, natural — something I really wanted . One day Krodhashamani came to my apartment and asked me to come see Sudama. He arrived in Los Angeles from San Francisco, and was dying of Aids. I knew Sudama from the Brooklyn temple. At that time he was a sannyasi, therefore we never spoke. I liked him a lot because he was flamboyant, had a beautiful face and features and was very vocal in his expressions. He also was in charge of the Vaikuntha Players, a group of devotees who had plays. When we went on sankirtan there were skits about Krsna’s pastimes during our break on the chanting party. He orchestrated everything. The public seemed to really appreciate it and we drew a big crowd. Mostly we would go to 42nd street and Times Square. I went to visit Sudama with Krodhashamani and we spoke very briefly. I didn’t know if he remembered me from New York but he acknowledged me and at that time I could see he was overwhelmed with what was happening to him. After a few days one afternoon, I remember it was after Christmas, because I still had a small Christmas tree up. One afternoon, I heard a thunking noise in the hallway on the stairs. “Thunk, thunk, thunk…..” It was a strange noise. It reminded me of Srila Prabhupada. At the Brooklyn temple one time I was leaving the pujari room and I heard the same noise…….. “thunk, thunk, thunk….” It was Srila Prabhupada! The thunking noise came from Prabhupada’s cane. All alone coming down the stairs from his quarters. I think he was headed for the kitchen. I paid my obeisances and looked at him with folded hands. I was speechless. It was only him and me. He held up his cane and looked at me smiling he said, “chant Hare Krishna”. I was shivering and excited to come so close to him. So Sudama brought this same sounding thunk to my door with his cane. I greeted Sudama into my apartment and he layed on to sofa very despondent. He acknowledged that Bhakta Chuck couldn’t take care of him and he had no one that would take care of him. He was very sad and scared. He looked very lonely. We spoke for a long time and he would stare at the lights of my Christmas tree. He would contemplate very heavily. Krodhashamani came to me later on and told me he needed someone to take care of him too, so I agreed. I never took care of a dying man but I knew the most important thing was to chant Hare Krishna for him and to make him feel comfortable. The less anxiety the better, the mind can be focused on Krishna and Prabhupada. So we got to know each other pretty well. I took care of him for approximately 2 months before he left his body. He stayed in my apartment because he just didn’t want to leave. He only stayed for a few days because my daughter had a hard time dealing with it. Then we moved into an empty temple apartment. I slept in the same room because I feared he would die in the middle of the night and I wanted to be there to chant for him. In the morning I would go home briefly to shower and change and eat. Even though we had a Prabhupada tape playing all the time I wanted to comfort him if he needed someone. Prior to moving into his temple apartment Siddhanta went to a Chinese herbalogist and got him some herbal tea. The doctor told him he had no electrolytes and he didn’t have much time left. When Sudama and I were alone after Siddhanta left, all of a sudden Sudama started crying like a baby. Tears fell from his eyes and he put his head on my shoulder. I felt so sorry for him. Previously he had been in some denial about dying and sometimes was stubborn about it. He would not come to terms on his dying. Finally at this stage it began to sank in and he started to realize, yes this is it, he is very sick and is a dying man. I let him cry and told him in as many kind words I could gather that I would be there for him, Prabhupada and Krsna are there for him and for all the service he performed for Prabhupada he should have faith and be strong. He mustered up some strength and he was able to regain his wits again. This was a steppingstone, since now he was embracing the fact, yes I am in the process and will soon leave my body. He often lay on my sofa and lament about all the things he should have done, could have done. I let him talk a lot because I could see it gave him strength, it gave him a release and in this process he was entrusting in me to serve him as a devotee and help him think about Krsna and Prabhupada. Sometimes Sudama called some old friends in San Francisco. He called Bhavananda and spoke to him for a while. One of his friends just contracted Aids and it shocked Sudama. Another friend just passed away. The news affected him deeply. Sudama often talked about his services for Prabhupada in the old days. How he would compete with other devotees who can serve Prabhupada better, who can spend more time with Prabhupada. Who can make the better garland for Prabhupada, who can cook for Prabhupada. Sudama helped open the Tokyo temple and had a lot to do with the Hawaii temple. He traveled as a sannyasi and stayed in the Brooklyn temple for a while. He traveled and preached and made devotees. He loved Srila Prabhupada with all his heart. He often regretted he didn’t serve enough. He regretted his falldown and other things. Sudama even told me he tried to be straight, got married and had a son named Aaron. But that didn’t work. Sudama came from a pious family. His brother was also initiated by Srila Prabhupada and his mother met Srila Prabhupada many years ago. She liked Krsna and thanked Prabhupada for taking care of her two sons. During the dying process his mother Claire would bring supplies and things we needed to take care of him. It was very hard for her to deal with this however she visited him often and was there when he left his body.

Memorial for SudamaGreat story to share with the devotees of Lord Krsna. By Omkara devi dasi Memoires of Sudama Maharaj Leaving His Body And My Experiences Taking Care of Him August 5, 2008 I pay my respectful obeisances to my loving Spiritual Master A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, my eternal guru whom I love and thank for giving me the Hare Krishna mantra and instructions on devotional service. I pay my obeisances to all the assembled devotees who I know, whom I don’t know but am spiritually related to and to all the spirit souls I have known in this lifetime that have left their bodies and gone back to Srila Prabhupada, to Vaikuntha, reunited once again in devotional love. Recently my Godsister Koumadakee left her body and at her memorial service many old Godbrothers and Godsisters gathered, along with newer devotees and we had a very nice memorial. I felt so close to Srila Prabhupada during the kirtan, seeing and hearing Baradraj sing, being the m. c., hearing the chanting and memorial. I contemplated how fortunate we are to have each other. How fortunate we are to serve and be connected. I pray to somehow once again serve someone who leaves his body, to chant by his/her side and help that person, that spirit soul have the peace of mind, the contentment to go back to Srila Prabhupada, back to Krsna. When I was young I often was thinking about death and was convinced about the existence of the soul. I remember I was about 11 years old and saw a car accident on the highway and above the sprawled body there was a glowing emanating ball, glow of light hovering. I knew, without a doubt, without anyone telling me, that was the soul hovering. Hovering from attachment, bewilderment, and waiting for it’s future fate, it’s future journey of existence. That was one of the starting points of my contemplating the existence of the soul after death. I knew there was more. I was fascinated with death and often wondered what actually happens at that time. For years I wanted to see death in another person and experience it firsthand. Approximately 14 years ago when I moved back into the temple I took a break from having a 9:00 – 5:00 job and went back into spiritual activities. I started chanting again and offering my food, going to the temple regularly and really liking it. I had a close friend Krodhashamani who was just starting her yoga business and we became good friends. It was nice living at the temple again. I never thought I’d like it. It’s like this…. you cannot pretend to be spiritual, you must feel it from deep within. You can’t fake it. I went through a period of growth, perhaps trying to grow emotionally as a person and thinking maybe I missed something because I became a Hare Krishna at 17 years of age. So I dated a little, I worked full time, overtime, sometimes on weekends, and I had a regular life. But after I got laid off and after my mom died I got a small inheritance and at that time I felt free, and I felt like I really wanted to be more spiritual. It was good and felt good, natural — something I really wanted . One day Krodhashamani came to my apartment and asked me to come see Sudama. He arrived in Los Angeles from San Francisco, and was dying of Aids. I knew Sudama from the Brooklyn temple. At that time he was a sannyasi, therefore we never spoke. I liked him a lot because he was flamboyant, had a beautiful face and features and was very vocal in his expressions. He also was in charge of the Vaikuntha Players, a group of devotees who had plays. When we went on sankirtan there were skits about Krsna’s pastimes during our break on the chanting party. He orchestrated everything. The public seemed to really appreciate it and we drew a big crowd. Mostly we would go to 42nd street and Times Square. I went to visit Sudama with Krodhashamani and we spoke very briefly. I didn’t know if he remembered me from New York but he acknowledged me and at that time I could see he was overwhelmed with what was happening to him. After a few days one afternoon, I remember it was after Christmas, because I still had a small Christmas tree up. One afternoon, I heard a thunking noise in the hallway on the stairs. “Thunk, thunk, thunk…..” It was a strange noise. It reminded me of Srila Prabhupada. At the Brooklyn temple one time I was leaving the pujari room and I heard the same noise…….. “thunk, thunk, thunk….” It was Srila Prabhupada! The thunking noise came from Prabhupada’s cane. All alone coming down the stairs from his quarters. I think he was headed for the kitchen. I paid my obeisances and looked at him with folded hands. I was speechless. It was only him and me. He held up his cane and looked at me smiling he said, “chant Hare Krishna”. I was shivering and excited to come so close to him. So Sudama brought this same sounding thunk to my door with his cane. I greeted Sudama into my apartment and he layed on to sofa very despondent. He acknowledged that Bhakta Chuck couldn’t take care of him and he had no one that would take care of him. He was very sad and scared. He looked very lonely. We spoke for a long time and he would stare at the lights of my Christmas tree. He would contemplate very heavily. Krodhashamani came to me later on and told me he needed someone to take care of him too, so I agreed. I never took care of a dying man but I knew the most important thing was to chant Hare Krishna for him and to make him feel comfortable. The less anxiety the better, the mind can be focused on Krishna and Prabhupada. So we got to know each other pretty well. I took care of him for approximately 2 months before he left his body. He stayed in my apartment because he just didn’t want to leave. He only stayed for a few days because my daughter had a hard time dealing with it. Then we moved into an empty temple apartment. I slept in the same room because I feared he would die in the middle of the night and I wanted to be there to chant for him. In the morning I would go home briefly to shower and change and eat. Even though we had a Prabhupada tape playing all the time I wanted to comfort him if he needed someone. Prior to moving into his temple apartment Siddhanta went to a Chinese herbalogist and got him some herbal tea. The doctor told him he had no electrolytes and he didn’t have much time left. When Sudama and I were alone after Siddhanta left, all of a sudden Sudama started crying like a baby. Tears fell from his eyes and he put his head on my shoulder. I felt so sorry for him. Previously he had been in some denial about dying and sometimes was stubborn about it. He would not come to terms on his dying. Finally at this stage it began to sank in and he started to realize, yes this is it, he is very sick and is a dying man. I let him cry and told him in as many kind words I could gather that I would be there for him, Prabhupada and Krsna are there for him and for all the service he performed for Prabhupada he should have faith and be strong. He mustered up some strength and he was able to regain his wits again. This was a steppingstone, since now he was embracing the fact, yes I am in the process and will soon leave my body. He often lay on my sofa and lament about all the things he should have done, could have done. I let him talk a lot because I could see it gave him strength, it gave him a release and in this process he was entrusting in me to serve him as a devotee and help him think about Krsna and Prabhupada. Sometimes Sudama called some old friends in San Francisco. He called Bhavananda and spoke to him for a while. One of his friends just contracted Aids and it shocked Sudama. Another friend just passed away. The news affected him deeply. Sudama often talked about his services for Prabhupada in the old days. How he would compete with other devotees who can serve Prabhupada better, who can spend more time with Prabhupada. Who can make the better garland for Prabhupada, who can cook for Prabhupada. Sudama helped open the Tokyo temple and had a lot to do with the Hawaii temple. He traveled as a sannyasi and stayed in the Brooklyn temple for a while. He traveled and preached and made devotees. He loved Srila Prabhupada with all his heart. He often regretted he didn’t serve enough. He regretted his falldown and other things. Sudama even told me he tried to be straight, got married and had a son named Aaron. But that didn’t work. Sudama came from a pious family. His brother was also initiated by Srila Prabhupada and his mother met Srila Prabhupada many years ago. She liked Krsna and thanked Prabhupada for taking care of her two sons. During the dying process his mother Claire would bring supplies and things we needed to take care of him. It was very hard for her to deal with this however she visited him often and was there when he left his body.

THE TIMES OF INDIA Ancient Vishnu idol found in Russian town 4 Jan 2008, 1109 hrs IST,PTI MOSCOW: An ancient Vishnu idol has been found during excavation in an old village in Russia's Volga region, raising questions about the prevalent view on the origin of ancient Russia. </SPAN> The idol found in Staraya (old) Maina village dates back to VII-X century AD. Staraya Maina village in Ulyanovsk region was a highly populated city 1700 years ago, much older than Kiev, so far believed to be the mother of all Russian cities. "We may consider it incredible, but we have ground to assert that Middle-Volga region was the original land of Ancient Rus. This is a hypothesis, but a hypothesis, which requires thorough research," Reader of Ulyanovsk State University's archaeology department Dr Alexander Kozhevin told state-run television Vesti . Dr Kozhevin, who has been conducting excavation in Staraya Maina for last seven years, said that every single square metre of the surroundings of the ancient town situated on the banks of Samara, a tributary of Volga, is studded with antiques. Prior to unearthing of the Vishnu idol, Dr Kozhevin has already found ancient coins, pendants, rings and fragments of weapons. He believes that today's Staraya Maina, a town of eight thousand, was ten times more populated in the ancient times. It is from here that people started moving to the Don and Dneiper rivers around the time ancient Russy built the city of Kiev, now the capital of Ukraine. An international conference is being organised later this year to study the legacy of the ancient village, which can radically change the history of ancient Russia.

This is a very valid point made by Kulapavana Prabhu. Actually, it is Krsna's arrangement to give the living entities the fee will to choose though, Krsna also warns us to be careful what we desire because we are responsible for the good and bad reactions our activity creates. Krsna is not responsible for the wars and suffering in the material we, we are, even though simultaneously it is also Krsna’s arrangement. What does that mean? Well, just like a government provides are playground for children to play in, that belongs to the government and is their creation and under their control, the government really has no control over what the children choose to do in the playground. In other words, Krsna provides everything that includes giving the living free will to play in Krsna’s playground of the material world the way they desire and choose making the embodied living entities responsible for their own suffering or pleasure in the maha-tattva, NOT Krsna who is the Governing provider like a government who provides a playgound for children to play in.

shvu, you STILL have no idea what 'Hinduism ' is suppose to be and how to follow the essence and cream of the Vedic teachings in this age of Kali-yuga or any other age do you? It's not only the word Hindu that must change but also the way present day India understand (most don't) the Vedas. Yes, I was being sarcastic. 'Hinduism is meant to be truely Vedic and ragu represents the mundane nonsense demigod worship side of the Vedas followed by the less intelligent as the Gita tells us. What foolishly he and you call Hindus degrades the true meaning of the essence of the Vedas, which is the Bhagavat Purana or Srimad Bhagavatam!! All sections in Vedas dealing with mundane demigod worship should be avoided if you want to go back home back to Godhead. If you want material benefit, then by all means worship the mundane demigods. Srila Veda Vysadeva reject His own Vedas except for the Bhagavat Purana because most of the Vedas deal with foolish mundane demigod worship. Srila Vysadeva said a Vaishnava only get real devotion or bhakti Krsna directly The demigods get their power also from Lord Krsna via His Maha-Vishnu expansion within the material world for their own mundane agenda of control within the material world. Devotees of Krsna are not interested in pleasing the lusty demigods. This is why Vaishnavas worship ONLY Krsna, Lord Caitanya and other Vishnu tattvas and NOT any of the estimated 33,000,000 demigods you find in many 'Hindu' Temples all over India. Anyway, get rid of that Muslim-European word Hindu and worshiping the mundane demigods and bring back the proper word 'Vedic religion, Sanatan Dharm and worshipping first and foremost, the cause of all causes, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Krsna and His expansions like Lord Ram (according to Lila) That’s what Prabhupada came to the West to do because there were too many 'Hindus' in India who have forgot their true Vedic origins of worshiping Lord Krsna, the cause of ALL causes. What does the Bhagavad-gita say about who not to worship? "Men of small intelligence worship the demigods, and their fruits are limited and temporary. Those who worship the demigods go to the planets of the demigods, but My devotees ultimately reach My supreme planet." (Bhagavad-Gita 7.23) It is clear from the Vedic scriptures that Lord Shiva, Lord Brahma, Lord Indra are demigods who should be respected but not worshipped as God. And those who worship Gurus (Sai Baba, Swaminarayan etc.) as Gods are most degraded followers of the Vedic religion. Those who worship Lord Krishna as God are the purest followers of the Vedic religion. The Hare Krishna’s represent the purest of Vedic religion. The Hare Krishna movement is based on Krishna consciousness, thus the name, the international society for Krishna consciousness (ISKCON). Srila Prabhupada clearly wanted his followers to worship only Lord Krishna and not demigods or Gurus as God, that's why he set-up the International society for Krishna consciousness (ISKCON). In the temples, he built, there were no deities of demigods (Shiva, Ganesh, Brahma) on the altar, only Radha and Krishna, and his incarnations like Lord Caitanya, Nityananda and Balarama, Subadra and Jaganath. The reason being we should focus on worshipping Lord Krishna only, only Lord Krishna. If there are many mundane demigods on the altar, then the focus on Lord Krishna becomes diluted and thus we gradually diverge from Krishna consciousness. Thus diverge from the principles of Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON. Thus having many deities on the altar (Lord Krishna and demigods) will be looked upon as diluting Krishna consciousness. The aim of Srila Prabhupada’s movement is to help the fallen souls which includes helping most Indian 'Hindus' come out of ignorance by making them Krishna conscious above the idea of all of us being Hindu, American, Indian, Australian, Russian, European, Chinses African etc. We are not these bodies and we don't belong in this material world Hare Krsna

Quote: <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #666666 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 3ex; BORDER-TOP: #666666 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 3ex; BORDER-LEFT: #666666 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #666666 1px solid" bgColor=#e0e0e0> Raghu, your an ARROGENT fool, stop writting nonsense!! <?xml:namespace prefix = v ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" /><v:shapetype id=_x0000_t75 stroked="f" filled="f" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" o:preferrelative="t" o:spt="75" coordsize="21600,21600"><v:stroke joinstyle="miter"></v:stroke><v:formulas><v:f eqn="if lineDrawn pixelLineWidth 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 1 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum 0 0 @1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @2 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 0 1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @6 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @8 21600 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @10 21600 0"></v:f></v:formulas><v:path o:connecttype="rect" gradientshapeok="t" o:extrusionok="f"></v:path><o:lock aspectratio="t" v:ext="edit"></o:lock></v:shapetype><v:shape id=Picture_x0020_1 style="VISIBILITY: visible; WIDTH: 12pt; HEIGHT: 12pt; mso-wrap-style: square" alt="http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" type="#_x0000_t75" o:spid="_x0000_i1026"><v:imagedata o:title="rolleyes" src="file:///C:\DOCUME~1\ssomash1\LOCALS~1\Temp\msohtmlclip1\01 \clip_image001.gif"></v:imagedata></v:shape>Obviously you represent the 'ignorant side of Hindusm" </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> shvu, you have no idea what 'Hinduism ' is suppose to be. I said "Obviously raghu represents the 'ignorant side of Hindusm" I was being sarcastic. 'Hinduism is meant to be Vedic and ragu represents the mundane nonsense demigod worship side of the Vedas followed by the less intelligent as the Gita tells us. What foolishly he and you call Hindus degrades the true meaning of the Vedas!! Get rid of that Muslim-European word Hindu and worshiping the mundane demigods and bring back the proper word 'Vedic religion, Sanatam Dharm and worshipping first and formost, the cause of all causes, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Krsna and His expansions like Lord Ram' (according to Lila) Thats what Prabhupada came to the West to do because there were too many 'Hindus' in India who have forgot their true Vedic origins of worshiping Lord Krsna, the cause of ALL causes. Hare Krsna

Raghu, your an ARROGENT fool, stop writting nonsense!! Obviously you represent the 'ignorant side of Hindusm" Prabhupada saved the Vedic Culture from the mundane Hindus of a corrupt and over invaded India by Muslims and Europeans, who created the name 'Hindu in the first place, it is certainly NOT a Sanskrit word. This even included saving the teachings of Lord Caitanya from the stagnation and the lack of seriousness (the desire to preach all over the world to others) of his Godbrothers. He said the Vedic gift was passed onto the West because Indian 'Hindism' had failed. Now it was up to Prabhupada's dancing white Elephants to re-established Vedic culture back in India and teach the 'Hindus and the entire world' who they really are as Spiritual entities. And its working, even this web site is the creation of a student of Srila Prabhupada So many 'HINDUS' today say to us that we devotees of Western origin know more about their religion than they do. And in all humility, we do.

The war has been going for 7 hours and already 10s of thousands have been killed On the New York Stock Exchange, prices fell in frenzy of trading, except for the major petroleum producers. Word comes through from CNN of A barrage of Iranian Shahab missile striking Tel Aviv, destroying many city blocks, then to the shock and horror of everyone, one missile, carrying a 25 kiloton nuclear war head, cloud bursts over the heart of Tel Aviv killing an estimated 600, 000, CNN’s live broadcasts ceases, all journalist are killed. Israel immediately retaliated with the first barrage of 30 nuclear strikes on Tehran and cities around Iran, turning half the country of Iran into dust. There ally India, who always said they would come to Israel aid, prepare for war The Syrian Capital is also hit with 3 nuclear weapons but was able to retaliate with another of Iran’s secretly stored nuclear weapon. Most of Israel is also destroyed. None of Israel’s Nuclear weapons are in Israel; most are hidden in other counties as far away as South Africa and India A hastily called UN General Assembly in New York City attempted to ease tensions, which is ignored by Israel. A small plan crashes into the UN building in New York causing minor damage killing 11 An orange alert in New York City suddenly reddened to a full-scale terror alarm due to many back-pack bombs, planted by Muslim cells in America, detonate on a Manhattan subway killing 340. Mayor Bloomberg asked President Bush to declare a nation wide martial law ordering every Governor the to mobilize the National Guard, what few national guardsmen remained in the state. President Bush looked shaken at 2 PM when he hears of a second nuclear explosion in Israel killing another 500, 000. Now over a million dead and many millions more dead in Iran The War has been going for nine hours The Israel Army, Air force, and Navy send a massive nuclear strike in every corner of Iran, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Yemen, Georgia, and north Eastern Afghanistan. A huge nuclear attack also destroys most of Libya. They also denote already placed mini nukes in the Gaza stripe and the West bank where Hezbollah are. The Blue domed mosque in Jerusalem is also destroyed and many senior Israel military men want to hit Mecca, the heart of Islam. The scroll below the TV screen reported Persian Gulf nations halting production of oil until the conflict could be resolved peacefully. Oil reaches 320 dollars a barrel. The US announce they are turning to their reserves and suspends the influence of world prices Only rumours of nuclear weapons being detonated are released to the American public. Venezuelan president, Hugo Chavez, announced a freeze in oil deliveries to the US would begin immediately. Covert American CIA invades the county to assassinate Hugo Chavez and his supporters. A missile strike from unknown source hit his residents and he, along with family members and bodyguards, are killed. English Prime minister Gordon Brown offers to mediate peace negotiations, between the US and Israel and Iran, but was resoundingly rejected. Two suicide bombers kill 38 people at Heathrow Airport. Another suicide bomber targets a School Assembly in Melbourne Australia killing 93 children and a Shopping Center at Southland Cheltenham is hit with five car bombs killing 60 shoppers. These random attacks are increasing throughout Australia, Europe, America, Russia, China, Japan and other non Muslim countries. Iran has an estimated 49,000 suicide bombers all around the world and THEIR attacks have only just begun. By 6 PM, Eastern Standard Time, the war has been going for 12 hours. An estimated 18 million have been killed, mostly in Iran and over 1 million in Israel Gas prices had stabilized at just below $18 a gallon in the US. A Citgo station in Texas, near Fort Sam Houston Army base, was firebombed, 84 workers were killed. Another barrage of Nuclear weapons hit Iran. More that half the population is dead and millions are dying of radiation poisoning Afghanistan tribal areas are hit again, two nuclear weapons detonate in Pakistan. India doesn’t wait for any response from the new Muslim fundamentalist Government and unleashes a barrage of nuclear weapons at Pakistan’s military and industrial sites, as well as all northern tribal areas. Pakistan responds with a nuclear attack on Amritsar and surrounding military bases all over the Punjab killing millions. India retaliates by hitting more major industrial cities; Pakistan launches nuclear weapons at the major cities of Delhi, Mumbi, Calcutta, Hyderabad, Jaipur, Lucknow, Bhopal, Chennai, Goe, Gujarat and the secret Military base near the city of Mathura (The famous birth place of Lord Krsna), 40 million are killed. Nuclear device are also detonated over American War ships, the carriers, USS Kitty Hawk, USS Constellation and USS John F. Kennedy, and accompanied battle destroyers, there are no survivors. The US invades Venezuela to claim its oil; their military responds by destroying all oil fields India hits EVERY major city in Pakistan Killing more than half the population of 160 million. Military bases in Bangladesh are hit by massive air strikes. India is in chaos due to some of India’s 180 million Muslims calling for jihad against Hinduism and the West While this is going on, nuclear weapons of unknown origin (most probably Israel submarines) rain on major cities in Indonesia. They respond by invading New Guinea and also attacks Darwin Australia with their Military. Australia goes on War footing. Israel vowels to turn the lands of EVERY Muslim country into fine dust particles Secretly stored nuclear weapons at the American Pine Gap base in central Australia (meant for China, North Korea and Eastern Russia) are mistakngly unleashed on military bases in Indonesia. They do however, stop a full scale invasion of Australia's North, killing millions. Thousand of Australians are killed in Darwin in a further missile counter strike by Indonesian Military. They still prepare for a ground invasion of Australia. Mecca in Saudi Arabia and Cairo in Egypt is also destroyed by a nuclear attack!! The Andersen Air Force Base at Guam is destroyed by Nuclear weapons; Pakistan is blamed although the Americans also suspect Russia. More American bases outside of America are attacked such as the Bahamas Camp Doha, Kuwait City, US Army Camp Udairi, Kuwait City, US Army with another nuclear warhead sent from Pakistan. Other bases are also destroyed, the Ahmed Al Jaber Air Base, US Air Force Ali Al Salem Air Base, US Air Force, Saudi Arabia Eskan Village Air Base, US Air Force Riyadh Air Base, Riyadh, US Air Force, King Abdul Aziz Air Base, Dhahran, US Air Force King Fahd Air Base, Taif, US Air Force King Khalid Air Base, Khamis ushayt, US Air Force American military dead is over 50, 000 in just over half a day of fighting, more deaths than 10 years of fighting during the Vietnam War. The war has been going on for 14 hours so far Japan and China are not involved and stand by the sidelines attempting to stop the horror. Then news comes through of rogue Indian soldiers, who are Buddhists, Sikhs and Hindus, invading Tibet and attacks Chinese army and Air force base killing 4000 Chinese soldiers and airman. China responds with an Air strike on advancing Indian Troops killing 12,000. Indian Northern command, hidden within the Himalayas, have lost contact with what’s going on and launches a nuclear attack on in North Western China in self defence unaware of the rogue soldiers invading Tibet. An Estimated 26,000 Chines troops perish. China responds with a devastating Nuclear attack on India’s northern region killing 80 million and making the place uninhabitable for the next 10, 000 years Russia takes advantage of the conflict and helps Serbia to invade Kosavo, Nato responds with attacks on Serbian airfields and military bases. Russia begins evacuating Moscow. All air traffic in the US is grounded and borders closed. Evacuation of Washington DC Politicians secretly begins, hundreds of Muslim American suicide bombers start attacking Americans in their own cities. The Government puts in place a plan to round up and incarerate all Muslims Russia launches a massive nuclear attack on Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo and Turkey, telling the Americans the Muslim scourge must be eliminated. Russia and America however do not become allies and the US come to the aide of Turkey, but do nothing knowing Russia would unleash nuclear weapons on America. Russia continues attacking Muslim cities and armies all over the old Soviet Union and the world however, a rogue group of officers in the Russian military steal 20 nuclear weapons, some are Muslim and vowl to use the weapons against the American mainland and even Russian cities. India's ground assault begins in Pakistan while both Israel and Iran and now uninhabitable END OF DAY ONE At sunset, the death toll so far is 240 million, with millions more missing, injured, and homeless. The call to pray is put out by the International Society for Krishna consciousness. All members and congregation takes to the streets of major cities around the world that have not been attacked and begin a 24 hour kirtan (chanting the Hare Krishna mantra) many in the public of all nationalities and religions join in. DAY TWO???????

ISRAEL AND THE US ATTACK THE ROGUE STATE OF IRAN By Author unknown The war began as planned. The Israeli pilots took off well before dawn and streaked across Lebanon and northern Iraq, high above Kirkuk. Flying US-made F-15 and F-16s, the Israelis separated over the mountains of western Iran, the pilots gesturing a last minute show of confidence in their mission, maintaining radio silence. Just before the sun rose over Tehran, moments before the Muslim call to prayer, the missiles struck their targets. While US Air Force AWACS planes circled overhead--listening, watching, recording--heavy US bombers followed minutes later. Bunker-busters and mini-nukes fell on dozens of targets while Iranian anti-aircraft missiles sped skyward. The ironically named Bushehr nuclear power plant crumbled to dust. Russian technicians and foreign nationals scurried for safety. Most did not make it. Targets in Saghand and Yazd, all of them carefully chosen many months before by Pentagon planners, were destroyed. The uranium enrichment facility in Natanz; a heavy water plant and radioisotope facility in Arak; the Ardekan Nuclear Fuel Unit; the Uranium Conversion Facility and Nuclear Technology Center in Isfahan; were struck simultaneously by USAF and Israeli bomber groups. The Tehran Nuclear Research Center, the Tehran Molybdenum, Iodine and Xenon Radioisotope Production Facility, the Tehran Jabr Ibn Hayan Multipurpose Laboratories, the Kalaye Electric Company in the Tehran suburbs were destroyed. Iranian fighter jets rose in scattered groups. At least those Iranian fighter planes, that had not been destroyed on the ground by the swift and systematic air strikes from US and Israeli missiles. A few Iranian fighters even launched missiles, downing the occasional attacker, but American top guns quickly prevailed in the ensuing dogfights. The Iranian air force, like the Iranian navy, never really knew what hit them. Like the slumbering US sailors at Pearl Harbor, the pre-dawn, pre-emptive attack wiped out fully half the Iranian defence forces in a matter of hours. But unknown to the Americans and Israelis, Iran had an enormous military force well hidden outside of Iran. By mid-morning, the second and third wave of US/Israeli raiders screamed over the secondary targets. The only problem now was the surprising effectiveness of the Iranian missile defenses. The element of surprise lost, US and Israeli warplanes began to fall from the skies in considerable numbers to anti-aircraft fire. At 7:35 AM, Tehran time, the first Iranian anti-ship missiles destroyed a Panamanian oil tanker, departing from Kuwait and bound for Houston and an Australian battle ship. Launched from an Iranian fighter planes, the Exocet split both the ships in half and set the ship ablaze in the Strait of Hormuz. The Australian causalities were 542 sailors dead. A second and third tanker followed, black smoke billowing from the broken ships before they blew up and sank. By 8:15 AM, all ship traffic on the Persian Gulf had ceased. Most US Navy ships had been ordered earlier into the relative safety of the Indian Ocean, south of their base in Bahrain, launched counter strikes. Waves of US fighter planes circled the burning wrecks in the bottleneck of Hormuz but the Iranian fighters had fled. At 9 AM, Eastern Standard Time, many hours into the war, CNN reported a squadron of suicide Iranian fighter jets attacking the US Navy fleet south of Bahrain. Embedded reporters aboard the ships--sending live feeds directly to a rapt audience of Americans just awakening--reported all of the Iranian jets destroyed, but not before the enemy planes launched dozens of Exocet and Sunburn anti-ship missiles. The US aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower, a cruiser, and two destroyers suffered direct hits. The cruiser blew up and sank, killing 600 American sailors. The aircraft carrier, hit by over 40 missiles, sank an hour later killing another 4,400 sailors. By mid-morning, every military base in Iran was partially or wholly destroyed. Sirens blared and fires blazed from hundreds of fires. Explosions rocked Tehran and the electrical power failed. The Al Jazeerah news station in Tehran took a direct hit from a satellite bomb, levelling the entire block. At 9:15 AM, Baghdad time, the first Iranian missile struck the Green Zone. For the next thirty minutes a torrent of missiles landed on GPS coordinates carefully selected by Shiite militiamen with cell phones positioned outside the Green Zone and other permanent US bases. Missiles are now raining all over Iraq coming from hidden Iranian bases within Iraq, Syria, and Saudi Arabia Although Israeli bomber pilots and US had destroyed 90% of the Iranian missiles in Iran, thousands of Shahabs remained hidden outside Iran that fully destroy the Green Zone, the Baghdad airport, and a US Marine base. 14, 300 unsuspecting US soldiers died in the early morning barrage. Not surprisingly, CNN and Fox withheld the great number of casualties from American viewers; in fact, nothing drastic was being shown to the American public. By 9:30 AM, gas stations on the US east coast began to raise their prices. Slowly at first and then altogether in a panic, the prices rose. $9 a gallon, and then $12 and then $15, the prices skyrocketed. Worried motorists, rushing from work, roared into the nearest gas station, radios blaring the latest reports of the pre-emptive attack on Iran. While fistfights broke out in gas stations everywhere, the Third world war may have possibly begun. In Washington DC, the spin began minutes after the first missile struck its intended target. The punitive strike, not really a war said the harried White House spokesman, would further democracy and peace in the Middle East, he had no idea how serious it was becoming. Media pundits mostly followed the party line and stopped reporting American causalities. They justified the attack by claiming they are successfully ridding Iran of weapons of mass destruction, Rice declared confidently on CNN, in a cover-up to the American people, that Iran might follow in the footsteps of Iraq, and enjoy the hard won fruits of freedom. She was unaware that Iran had actually built 3 nuclear weapons that were somewhere in Syria in the process of being detonated in Israel The president scheduled a speech at 2 PM. Gas prices rose another two dollars before then. China and Japan threatened to dump US dollars. Gold raised $160 an ounce. The dollar plummeted against the Euro. CNN reported violent, Muslim anti-American protests in Paris, London, Rome, Berlin, and Dublin. Muslims and anti-War protestors attached American fast food franchises throughout Europe and Australia. Muslim and Anti-War protestors firebombed American corporate Businesses. Citizens of Christian, Jewish and Hindu background retaliated in France and fire bombed Muslim mosques, schools, and homes killing over 150 A violent coup during the Iran attack toppled the pro-American Pakistan president putting nuclear weapons in the hands of Fundamentalist Muslims. India goes on Red alert and prepares for the worst by having their nuclear weapons on standby.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

As many are aware, Srila Prabhupada has many times warned us that the third world war will eventually take place. Srila Prabhupada – “The America has got atom bomb and Russia has got atom bomb. As soon as there is another war, the whole world will be finished” (Bhagavad-gita Lec. 13.14 Bombay, October 7, 1973) Srila Prabhupada – “So these rascals are going on. So it is very difficult to preach Krsna consciousness. The whole world is overburdened by these rascals and demons. So atom, atom bomb is waiting for them. Yes. It will be finished. All the demons will be finished” (Srimad-Bhagavatam Lec. 1.8.34 Los Angeles, April 26, 1973) Srila Prabhupada – “You are maintaining so many slaughterhouses, and when it will be mature, there will be war, the wholesale murder. Finished. One atom bomb--finished. You'll have to suffer. .(Srimad-Bhagavatam Lec. 6.1.32 Honolulu, May 31, 1976) Srila Prabhupada – “Don't think that "Innocent animals, they cannot protest. Let us kill and eat." No. You'll be also punished. Wait for accumulation of your sinful activities, and there will be war, and the America will drop the atom bomb, and Russia will be finished. Both will be finished. .(Srimad-Bhagavatam Lec. 6.1.32 Honolulu, May 31, 1976) Srila Prabhupada – “Go on now enjoying. It takes time. Just like even if you infect some disease, it takes time. Not that immediately you infect, and immediately the disease is there. No. It takes a week's time or so.(Srimad-Bhagavatam Lec. 6.1.32 Honolulu, May 31, 1976) Paramahamsa: The theory nowadays is that by the proliferation of atomic weapons, that Russia has so many weapons, China has so many weapons, the United States has so much... Prabhupada: Everyone now. India has also. Paramahamsa: They're all afraid of using them. Prabhupada: They must use it. That is nature's arrangement. Paramahamsa: Yeah, right. History. Prabhupada: Yes. That is nature's arrangement (chuckles) that you all die. That is nature's arrangement. Tamala Krsna: When someone gets some power he wants to try it out. Just like there was that demon. Lord Siva gave him power: whoever head he touched, the head would fall off. Prabhupada: Just like in your country there are so many cars so that a poor man like me has car always, not an inch move on leg. So because there is so many. There are so many cars. So there are so many weapons now. That must be used. That is a natural sequence. They must use it. Bahulasva: That is why they have wars, just so they can use up the weapons. Prabhupada: Oh yes. Paramahamsa: The only difficulty is that if one person uses the atomic weapon, that means entire, it would be entire waste of mankind. So everyone's afraid of using the ultimate. Prabhupada: Well, anyway, they must be used. There is no doubt about it. Therefore we can say there will be war. It is no astrology. It is natural conclusion. Tamala Krsna: Common sense. Paramahamsa: That'd mean total destruction. Prabhupada: Well, total or partial, that we shall see. But they must be used. ( S.P.Morning Walk July 18, 1975, San Francisco) Srila Prabhupada – “The modern civilization has got everything, but without God consciousness, any moment it will be finished. And there are symptoms... Any moment. Srila Prabhupada – “At the present moment, this godless civilization, as soon as there is declaration of war, the America is prepared to drop atom bomb, Russia is... The first nation who will drop the atom bomb, he will be victorious. Nobody will be victorious, because both of them are ready to drop. The America will be finished and Russia will be finished. That is the position. So you may make advancement of civilization, scientific improvement, economic development, but if it is godless, at any moment it will be finished. At any moment. (Srimad-Bhagavatam Lec. 1.15.21 Los Angeles, December 1, 1973) Srila Prabhupada – “You have created this situation. You must be killed. You may be American or Englishman or German or this or that. You may be very proud of your nationality. But you must be killed." This is the position. Isvarasya vicestitam. "You have killed so many animals. Now wholesale killing, one bomb. One atom bomb. Be killed." So these rascals they do not know how things are going on. Isvarasya vicestitam. "Tit for tat." There must be”. (Srimad-Bhagavatam Lec. 1.15.24 Los Angeles, December 3, 1973) Prabhupada: Yes. All Western adventure to keep people in darkness. And that is going on. Now it will be smashed by the next war. Next war will come very soon. Tamala Krsna: (Surprised) Oh! Prabhupada: Yes. Tamala Krsna: Next war...? Prabhupada: Your country, America, is very much eager to kill these Communists. And the Communists are also very eager. So very soon there will be war. And perhaps India will be the greatest sufferer. Tamala Krsna: Greatest...? Devotees: Sufferer. Srutakirti: Sufferer. Prabhupada: Because America is aiming to start the war from India. Devotee: Oh! Prabhupada: Yes. Because India and Russia, they are... Brahmananda: They are... Friendship. Prabhupada: No. Side by side. If the war is started from India... Rupanuga: So India will become... Prabhupada: And the Russians are ready here already, I have heard, with soldiers and... Not soldiers. I mean to say. Hamsaduta: Missiles. Prabhupada: Yes. They are also vigilant. Visnujana: Will that help our preaching, Prabhupada? Prabhupada: Preaching will be very nice after the war when both of them, especially Russia, will be finished....... Prabhupada: Yes, they are getting. They are already getting. The Pakistan will start the war with India. And then everything will be... Devotees: Oh! Whew! Devotee: Pakistan will start a war... (devotees talking among themselves.)... Tamala Krsna: Will this war spread to many different countries and continents? Prabhupada: The actual war will be between America and Russia. (S.P. Morning Walk Conversation (World War III) April 4, 1975, Mayapur) Prabhupada: Yes. Next war means atomic war. All these rascals will be killed automatically. I will kill you, you'll kill me. That's all. Yogesvara: Is that war to occur in the recent future? Or is that a long way off? Prabhupada: Very recent, very recent future. (S.P.Morning Walk May 27, 1974, Rome)

As many are aware, Srila Prabhupada has many times warned us that the third world war will eventually take place. Srila Prabhupada – “The America has got atom bomb and Russia has got atom bomb. As soon as there is another war, the whole world will be finished” (Bhagavad-gita Lec. 13.14 Bombay, October 7, 1973) Srila Prabhupada – “So these rascals are going on. So it is very difficult to preach Krsna consciousness. The whole world is overburdened by these rascals and demons. So atom, atom bomb is waiting for them. Yes. It will be finished. All the demons will be finished” (Srimad-Bhagavatam Lec. 1.8.34 Los Angeles, April 26, 1973) Srila Prabhupada – “You are maintaining so many slaughterhouses, and when it will be mature, there will be war, the wholesale murder. Finished. One atom bomb--finished. You'll have to suffer. .(Srimad-Bhagavatam Lec. 6.1.32 Honolulu, May 31, 1976) Srila Prabhupada – “Don't think that "Innocent animals, they cannot protest. Let us kill and eat." No. You'll be also punished. Wait for accumulation of your sinful activities, and there will be war, and the America will drop the atom bomb, and Russia will be finished. Both will be finished. .(Srimad-Bhagavatam Lec. 6.1.32 Honolulu, May 31, 1976) Srila Prabhupada – “Go on now enjoying. It takes time. Just like even if you infect some disease, it takes time. Not that immediately you infect, and immediately the disease is there. No. It takes a week's time or so.(Srimad-Bhagavatam Lec. 6.1.32 Honolulu, May 31, 1976) Paramahamsa: The theory nowadays is that by the proliferation of atomic weapons, that Russia has so many weapons, China has so many weapons, the United States has so much... Prabhupada: Everyone now. India has also. Paramahamsa: They're all afraid of using them. Prabhupada: They must use it. That is nature's arrangement. Paramahamsa: Yeah, right. History. Prabhupada: Yes. That is nature's arrangement (chuckles) that you all die. That is nature's arrangement. Tamala Krsna: When someone gets some power he wants to try it out. Just like there was that demon. Lord Siva gave him power: whoever head he touched, the head would fall off. Prabhupada: Just like in your country there are so many cars so that a poor man like me has car always, not an inch move on leg. So because there is so many. There are so many cars. So there are so many weapons now. That must be used. That is a natural sequence. They must use it. Bahulasva: That is why they have wars, just so they can use up the weapons. Prabhupada: Oh yes. Paramahamsa: The only difficulty is that if one person uses the atomic weapon, that means entire, it would be entire waste of mankind. So everyone's afraid of using the ultimate. Prabhupada: Well, anyway, they must be used. There is no doubt about it. Therefore we can say there will be war. It is no astrology. It is natural conclusion. Tamala Krsna: Common sense. Paramahamsa: That'd mean total destruction. Prabhupada: Well, total or partial, that we shall see. But they must be used. ( S.P.Morning Walk July 18, 1975, San Francisco) Srila Prabhupada – “The modern civilization has got everything, but without God consciousness, any moment it will be finished. And there are symptoms... Any moment. Srila Prabhupada – “At the present moment, this godless civilization, as soon as there is declaration of war, the America is prepared to drop atom bomb, Russia is... The first nation who will drop the atom bomb, he will be victorious. Nobody will be victorious, because both of them are ready to drop. The America will be finished and Russia will be finished. That is the position. So you may make advancement of civilization, scientific improvement, economic development, but if it is godless, at any moment it will be finished. At any moment. (Srimad-Bhagavatam Lec. 1.15.21 Los Angeles, December 1, 1973) Srila Prabhupada – “You have created this situation. You must be killed. You may be American or Englishman or German or this or that. You may be very proud of your nationality. But you must be killed." This is the position. Isvarasya vicestitam. "You have killed so many animals. Now wholesale killing, one bomb. One atom bomb. Be killed." So these rascals they do not know how things are going on. Isvarasya vicestitam. "Tit for tat." There must be”. (Srimad-Bhagavatam Lec. 1.15.24 Los Angeles, December 3, 1973) Prabhupada: Yes. All Western adventure to keep people in darkness. And that is going on. Now it will be smashed by the next war. Next war will come very soon. Tamala Krsna: (Surprised) Oh! Prabhupada: Yes. Tamala Krsna: Next war...? Prabhupada: Your country, America, is very much eager to kill these Communists. And the Communists are also very eager. So very soon there will be war. And perhaps India will be the greatest sufferer. Tamala Krsna: Greatest...? Devotees: Sufferer. Srutakirti: Sufferer. Prabhupada: Because America is aiming to start the war from India. Devotee: Oh! Prabhupada: Yes. Because India and Russia, they are... Brahmananda: They are... Friendship. Prabhupada: No. Side by side. If the war is started from India... Rupanuga: So India will become... Prabhupada: And the Russians are ready here already, I have heard, with soldiers and... Not soldiers. I mean to say. Hamsaduta: Missiles. Prabhupada: Yes. They are also vigilant. Visnujana: Will that help our preaching, Prabhupada? Prabhupada: Preaching will be very nice after the war when both of them, especially Russia, will be finished....... Prabhupada: Yes, they are getting. They are already getting. The Pakistan will start the war with India. And then everything will be... Devotees: Oh! Whew! Devotee: Pakistan will start a war... (devotees talking among themselves.)... Tamala Krsna: Will this war spread to many different countries and continents? Prabhupada: The actual war will be between America and Russia. (S.P. Morning Walk Conversation (World War III) April 4, 1975, Mayapur) Prabhupada: Yes. Next war means atomic war. All these rascals will be killed automatically. I will kill you, you'll kill me. That's all. Yogesvara: Is that war to occur in the recent future? Or is that a long way off? Prabhupada: Very recent, very recent future. (S.P.Morning Walk May 27, 1974, Rome)

The war has been going for 7 hours and already 10s of thousands have been killed On the New York Stock Exchange, prices fell in frenzy of trading, except for the major petroleum producers. Word comes through from CNN of A barrage of Iranian Shahab missile striking Tel Aviv, destroying many city blocks, then to the shock and horror of everyone, one missile, carrying a 25 kiloton nuclear war head, cloud bursts over the heart of Tel Aviv killing an estimated 600, 000, CNN’s live broadcasts ceases, all journalist are killed. Israel immediately retaliated with the first barrage of 30 nuclear strikes on Tehran and cities around Iran, turning half the country of Iran into dust. There ally India, who always said they would come to Israel aid, prepare for war The Syrian Capital is also hit with 3 nuclear weapons but was able to retaliate with another of Iran’s secretly stored nuclear weapon. Most of Israel is also destroyed. None of Israel’s Nuclear weapons are in Israel; most are hidden in other counties as far away as South Africa and India A hastily called UN General Assembly in New York City attempted to ease tensions, which is ignored by Israel. A small plan crashes into the UN building in New York causing minor damage killing 11 An orange alert in New York City suddenly reddened to a full-scale terror alarm due to many back-pack bombs, planted by Muslim cells in America, detonate on a Manhattan subway killing 340. Mayor Bloomberg asked President Bush to declare a nation wide martial law ordering every Governor the to mobilize the National Guard, what few national guardsmen remained in the state. President Bush looked shaken at 2 PM when he hears of a second nuclear explosion in Israel killing another 500, 000. Now over a million dead and many millions more dead in Iran The War has been going for nine hours The Israel Army, Air force, and Navy send a massive nuclear strike in every corner of Iran, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Yemen, Georgia, and north Eastern Afghanistan. A huge nuclear attack also destroys most of Libya. They also denote already placed mini nukes in the Gaza stripe and the West bank where Hezbollah are. The Blue domed mosque in Jerusalem is also destroyed and many senior Israel military men want to hit Mecca, the heart of Islam. The scroll below the TV screen reported Persian Gulf nations halting production of oil until the conflict could be resolved peacefully. Oil reaches 320 dollars a barrel. The US announce they are turning to their reserves and suspends the influence of world prices Only rumours of nuclear weapons being detonated are released to the American public. Venezuelan president, Hugo Chavez, announced a freeze in oil deliveries to the US would begin immediately. Covert American CIA invades the county to assassinate Hugo Chavez and his supporters. A missile strike from unknown source hit his residents and he, along with family members and bodyguards, are killed. English Prime minister Gordon Brown offers to mediate peace negotiations, between the US and Israel and Iran, but was resoundingly rejected. Two suicide bombers kill 38 people at Heathrow Airport. Another suicide bomber targets a School Assembly in Melbourne Australia killing 93 and a Shopping Center at Southland Cheltenham is hit with five car bombs killing 60 shoppers. These random attacks are increasing throughout Australia, Europe, America, Russia, China, Japan and other non Muslim countries. Iran has an estimated 49,000 suicide bombers all around the world and THEIR attacks have only just begun. By 6 PM, Eastern Standard Time, the war has been going for 12 hours. An estimated 18 million have been killed, mostly in Iran and over 1 million in Israel Gas prices had stabilized at just below $18 a gallon in the US. A Citgo station in Texas, near Fort Sam Houston Army base, was firebombed, 84 workers were killed. Another barrage of Nuclear weapons hit Iran. More that half the population is dead and millions are dying of radiation poisoning Afghanistan tribal areas are hit again, two nuclear weapons detonate in Pakistan. India doesn’t wait for any response from the new Muslim fundamentalist Government and unleashes a barrage of nuclear weapons at Pakistan’s military and industrial sites, as well as all northern tribal areas. Pakistan responds with a nuclear attack on Amritsar and surrounding military bases all over the Punjab killing millions. India retaliates by hitting more major industrial cities; Pakistan launches nuclear weapons at the major cities of Delhi, Mumbi, Calcutta, Hyderabad, Jaipur, Lucknow, Bhopal, Chennai, Goe, Gujarat and the secret Military base near the city of Mathura (The famous birth place of Lord Krsna), 40 million are killed. Nuclear device are also detonated over American War ships, the carriers, USS Kitty Hawk, USS Constellation and USS John F. Kennedy, and accompanied battle destroyers, there are no survivors. The US invades Venezuela to claim its oil; their military responds by destroying all oil fields India hits EVERY major city in Pakistan Killing more than half the population of 160 million. Military bases in Bangladesh are hit by massive air strikes. India is in chaos due to some of India’s 180 million Muslims calling for jihad against Hinduism and the West While this is going on, nuclear weapons of unknown origin (most probably Israel submarines) rain on major cities in Indonesia. They respond by invading New Guinea and also attacks Darwin Australia with their Military. Australia goes on War footing. Israel vowels to turn the lands of EVERY Muslim country into fine dust particles Secretly stored nuclear weapons at the American Pine Gap base in central Australia (meant for China, North Korea and Eastern Russia) are mistakngly unleashed on military bases in Indonesia. They do however, stop a full scale invasion of Australia's North, killing millions. Thousand of Australians are killed in Darwin in a further missile counter strike by Indonesian Military. They still prepare for a ground invasion of Australia. Mecca in Saudi Arabia and Cairo in Egypt is also destroyed by a nuclear attack!! The Andersen Air Force Base at Guam is destroyed by Nuclear weapons; Pakistan is blamed although the Americans also suspect Russia. More American bases outside of America are attacked such as the Bahamas Camp Doha, Kuwait City, US Army Camp Udairi, Kuwait City, US Army with another nuclear warhead sent from Pakistan. Other bases are also destroyed, the Ahmed Al Jaber Air Base, US Air Force Ali Al Salem Air Base, US Air Force, Saudi Arabia Eskan Village Air Base, US Air Force Riyadh Air Base, Riyadh, US Air Force, King Abdul Aziz Air Base, Dhahran, US Air Force King Fahd Air Base, Taif, US Air Force King Khalid Air Base, Khamis ushayt, US Air Force American military dead is over 50, 000 in just over half a day of fighting, more deaths than 10 years of fighting during the Vietnam War. The war has been going on for 14 hours so far Japan and China are not involved and stand by the sidelines attempting to stop the horror. Then news comes through of rogue Indian soldiers, who are Buddhists, Sikhs and Hindus, invading Tibet and attacks Chinese army and Air force base killing 4000 Chinese soldiers and airman. China responds with an Air strike on advancing Indian Troops killing 12,000. Indian Northern command, hidden within the Himalayas, have lost contact with what’s going on and launches a nuclear attack on in North Western China in self defence unaware of the rogue soldiers invading Tibet. An Estimated 26,000 Chines troops perish. China responds with a devastating Nuclear attack on India’s northern region killing 80 million and making the place uninhabitable for the next 10, 000 years Russia takes advantage of the conflict and helps Serbia to invade Kosavo, Nato responds with attacks on Serbian airfields and military bases. Russia begins evacuating Moscow. All air traffic in the US is grounded and borders closed. Evacuation of Washington DC Politicians secretly begins, hundreds of Muslim American suicide bombers start attacking Americans in their own cities. The Government puts in place a plan to round up and incarerate all Muslims Russia launches a massive nuclear attack on Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo and Turkey, telling the Americans the Muslim scourge must be eliminated. Russia and America however do not become allies and the US come to the aide of Turkey, but do nothing knowing Russia would unleash nuclear weapons on America. Russia continues attacking Muslim cities and armies all over the old Soviet Union and the world however, a rogue group of officers in the Russian military steal 20 nuclear weapons, some are Muslim and vowl to use the weapons against the American mainland and even Russian cities. India's ground assault begins in Pakistan while both Israel and Iran and now uninhabitable END OF DAY ONE At sunset, the death toll so far is 240 million, with millions more missing, injured, and homeless. The call to pray is put out by the International Society for Krishna consciousness. All members and congregation takes to the streets of major cities around the world that have not been attacked and begin a 24 hour kirtan (chanting the Hare Krishna mantra) many in the public of all nationalities and religions join in. DAY TWO???????

ISRAEL AND THE US ATTACK THE ROGUE STATE OF IRAN By Author unknown The war began as planned. The Israeli pilots took off well before dawn and streaked across Lebanon and northern Iraq, high above Kirkuk. Flying US-made F-15 and F-16s, the Israelis separated over the mountains of western Iran, the pilots gesturing a last minute show of confidence in their mission, maintaining radio silence. Just before the sun rose over Tehran, moments before the Muslim call to prayer, the missiles struck their targets. While US Air Force AWACS planes circled overhead--listening, watching, recording--heavy US bombers followed minutes later. Bunker-busters and mini-nukes fell on dozens of targets while Iranian anti-aircraft missiles sped skyward. The ironically named Bushehr nuclear power plant crumbled to dust. Russian technicians and foreign nationals scurried for safety. Most did not make it. Targets in Saghand and Yazd, all of them carefully chosen many months before by Pentagon planners, were destroyed. The uranium enrichment facility in Natanz; a heavy water plant and radioisotope facility in Arak; the Ardekan Nuclear Fuel Unit; the Uranium Conversion Facility and Nuclear Technology Center in Isfahan; were struck simultaneously by USAF and Israeli bomber groups. The Tehran Nuclear Research Center, the Tehran Molybdenum, Iodine and Xenon Radioisotope Production Facility, the Tehran Jabr Ibn Hayan Multipurpose Laboratories, the Kalaye Electric Company in the Tehran suburbs were destroyed. Iranian fighter jets rose in scattered groups. At least those Iranian fighter planes, that had not been destroyed on the ground by the swift and systematic air strikes from US and Israeli missiles. A few Iranian fighters even launched missiles, downing the occasional attacker, but American top guns quickly prevailed in the ensuing dogfights. The Iranian air force, like the Iranian navy, never really knew what hit them. Like the slumbering US sailors at Pearl Harbor, the pre-dawn, pre-emptive attack wiped out fully half the Iranian defence forces in a matter of hours. But unknown to the Americans and Israelis, Iran had an enormous military force well hidden outside of Iran. By mid-morning, the second and third wave of US/Israeli raiders screamed over the secondary targets. The only problem now was the surprising effectiveness of the Iranian missile defenses. The element of surprise lost, US and Israeli warplanes began to fall from the skies in considerable numbers to anti-aircraft fire. At 7:35 AM, Tehran time, the first Iranian anti-ship missiles destroyed a Panamanian oil tanker, departing from Kuwait and bound for Houston and an Australian battle ship. Launched from an Iranian fighter planes, the Exocet split both the ships in half and set the ship ablaze in the Strait of Hormuz. The Australian causalities were 542 sailors dead. A second and third tanker followed, black smoke billowing from the broken ships before they blew up and sank. By 8:15 AM, all ship traffic on the Persian Gulf had ceased. Most US Navy ships had been ordered earlier into the relative safety of the Indian Ocean, south of their base in Bahrain, launched counter strikes. Waves of US fighter planes circled the burning wrecks in the bottleneck of Hormuz but the Iranian fighters had fled. At 9 AM, Eastern Standard Time, many hours into the war, CNN reported a squadron of suicide Iranian fighter jets attacking the US Navy fleet south of Bahrain. Embedded reporters aboard the ships--sending live feeds directly to a rapt audience of Americans just awakening--reported all of the Iranian jets destroyed, but not before the enemy planes launched dozens of Exocet and Sunburn anti-ship missiles. The US aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower, a cruiser, and two destroyers suffered direct hits. The cruiser blew up and sank, killing 600 American sailors. The aircraft carrier, hit by over 40 missiles, sank an hour later killing another 4,400 sailors. By mid-morning, every military base in Iran was partially or wholly destroyed. Sirens blared and fires blazed from hundreds of fires. Explosions rocked Tehran and the electrical power failed. The Al Jazeerah news station in Tehran took a direct hit from a satellite bomb, levelling the entire block. At 9:15 AM, Baghdad time, the first Iranian missile struck the Green Zone. For the next thirty minutes a torrent of missiles landed on GPS coordinates carefully selected by Shiite militiamen with cell phones positioned outside the Green Zone and other permanent US bases. Missiles are now raining all over Iraq coming from hidden Iranian bases within Iraq, Syria, and Saudi Arabia Although Israeli bomber pilots and US had destroyed 90% of the Iranian missiles in Iran, thousands of Shahabs remained hidden outside Iran that fully destroy the Green Zone, the Baghdad airport, and a US Marine base. 14, 300 unsuspecting US soldiers died in the early morning barrage. Not surprisingly, CNN and Fox withheld the great number of casualties from American viewers; in fact, nothing drastic was being shown to the American public. By 9:30 AM, gas stations on the US east coast began to raise their prices. Slowly at first and then altogether in a panic, the prices rose. $9 a gallon, and then $12 and then $15, the prices skyrocketed. Worried motorists, rushing from work, roared into the nearest gas station, radios blaring the latest reports of the pre-emptive attack on Iran. While fistfights broke out in gas stations everywhere, the Third world war may have possibly begun. In Washington DC, the spin began minutes after the first missile struck its intended target. The punitive strike, not really a war said the harried White House spokesman, would further democracy and peace in the Middle East, he had no idea how serious it was becoming. Media pundits mostly followed the party line and stopped reporting American causalities. They justified the attack by claiming they are successfully ridding Iran of weapons of mass destruction, Rice declared confidently on CNN, in a cover-up to the American people, that Iran might follow in the footsteps of Iraq, and enjoy the hard won fruits of freedom. She was unaware that Iran had actually built 3 nuclear weapons that were somewhere in Syria in the process of being detonated in Israel The president scheduled a speech at 2 PM. Gas prices rose another two dollars before then. China and Japan threatened to dump US dollars. Gold raised $160 an ounce. The dollar plummeted against the Euro. CNN reported violent, Muslim anti-American protests in Paris, London, Rome, Berlin, and Dublin. Muslims and anti-War protestors attached American fast food franchises throughout Europe and Australia. Muslim and Anti-War protestors firebombed American corporate Businesses. Citizens of Christian, Jewish and Hindu background retaliated in France and fire bombed Muslim mosques, schools, and homes killing over 150 A violent coup during the Iran attack toppled the pro-American Pakistan president putting nuclear weapons in the hands of Fundamentalist Muslims. India goes on Red alert and prepares for the worst by having their nuclear weapons on standby.

God does not select the Pope; a committee of men selects him. Srila Prabhupada on the other hand proved his position by his actions; no one voted him as Jagat-Guru, his achievements, and actions proved he was appointed directly by Krsna due to Prabhupada’s surrender. Actually, no one can vote in any Guru, he or in rare cases, she, must manifest as Guru according to their actions. The Pope and the Catholic Church is actually a mundane meat eating religious tradition that is not really a Spiritual movement in the sense of the Vedic word Spiritual. Even though it is not suppose to be that way say, in actual fact, the 'Catholic' Heaven, like the Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist and Christian Heaven, in the sense it is actually within the temporary mundane Heavenly celestial planets in the higher pious realms of the material world, where people live for 10,000 years or more. This place, like the earth planet, is also part of Maha-Vishnu's mahat-tattva dream creation where the embodied baddha-jiva still ‘wants’ things of God. Like a family reunions the Mormons desire. We are not these biological bodies and therefore it in impossible to be 'resurrected' in them as the Jews and Christians ignorantly and foolishly believe. These nonsense 'religious' Heavens have nothing to do with Vaikuntha or Goloka, which is the REAL eternal Kingdom of God (Krsna) Those with true knowledge, eventually see beyond the sentimentality of wordly religions when they are ready, directed by God within their own hearts.

Inscriptions on the side of the Kaaba are also from the Bhagavad Gita An Email I received from my good friend Raj I found very interesting that deals with this subject - “A recent archeological find in Kuwait unearthed a gold-plated statue of the Hindu deity Ganesh. A Muslim resident of Kuwait requested historical research material that can help explain the connection between Hindu civilisation and Arabia.] Was the Kaaba Originally a Hindu Temple? By P.N. Oak (Historian) Glancing through some research material recently, I was pleasantly surprised to come across a reference to a king Vikramaditya inscription found in the Kaaba in Mecca proving beyond doubt that the Arabian Peninsula formed a part of his Indian Empire. The text of the crucial Vikramaditya inscription, found inscribed on a gold dish hung inside the Kaaba shrine in Mecca, is found recorded on page 315 of a volume known as ‘Sayar-ul-Okul’ treasured in the Makhtab-e-Sultania library in Istanbul, Turkey. Rendered in free English the inscription says: "Fortunate are those who were born (and lived) during king Vikram’s reign. He was a noble, generous dutiful ruler, devoted to the welfare of his subjects. But at that time we Arabs, oblivious of God, were lost in sensual pleasures. Plotting and torture were rampant. The darkness of ignorance had enveloped our country. Like the lamb struggling for her life in the cruel paws of a wolf we Arabs were caught up in ignorance. The entire country was enveloped in a darkness so intense as on a new moon night. But the present dawn and pleasant sunshine of education is the result of the favour of the noble king Vikramaditya whose benevolent supervision did not lose sight of us- foreigners as we were. He spread his sacred religion amongst us and sent scholars whose brilliance shone like that of the sun from his country to ours. These scholars and preceptors through whose benevolence we were once again made cognisant of the presence of God, introduced to His sacred existence and put on the road of Truth, had come to our country to preach their religion and impart education at king Vikramaditya’s behest." For those who would like to read the Arabic wording I reproduce it hereunder in Roman script: "Itrashaphai Santu Ibikramatul Phahalameen Karimun Yartapheeha Wayosassaru Bihillahaya Samaini Ela Motakabberen Sihillaha Yuhee Quid min howa Yapakhara phajjal asari nahone osirom bayjayhalem. Yundan blabin Kajan blnaya khtoryaha sadunya kanateph netephi bejehalin Atadari bilamasa- rateen phakef tasabuhu kaunnieja majekaralhada walador. As hmiman burukankad toluho watastaru hihila Yakajibaymana balay kulk amarena phaneya jaunabilamary Bikramatum". (Page 315 Sayar-ul-okul). [Note: The title ‘Saya-ul-okul’ signifies memorable words.] A careful analysis of the above inscription enables us to draw the following conclusions: 1) That the ancient Indian empires may have extended up to the eastern boundaries of Arabia until Vikramaditya and that it was he who for the first time conquered Arabia. Because the inscription says that king Vikram who dispelled the darkness of ignorance from Arabia. 2) That, whatever their earlier faith, King Vikrama’s preachers had succeeded in spreading the Vedic (based on the Vedas, the Hindu sacred scriptures)) way of life in Arabia. 3) That the knowledge of Indian arts and sciences was imparted by Indians to the Arabs directly by founding schools, academies and cultural centres. The belief, therefore, that visiting Arabs conveyed that knowledge to their own lands through their own indefatigable efforts and scholarship is unfounded. An ancillary conclusion could be that the so-called Kutub Minar (in Delhi, India) could well be king Vikramadiya’s tower commemorating his conquest of Arabia. This conclusion is strengthened by two pointers. Firstly, the inscription on the iron pillar near the so-called Kutub Minar refers to the marriage of the victorious king Vikramaditya to the princess of Balhika. This Balhika is none other than the Balkh region in West Asia. It could be that Arabia was wrestled by king Vikramaditya from the ruler of Balkh who concluded a treaty by giving his daughter in marriage to the victor. Secondly, the township adjoining the so called Kutub Minar is named Mehrauli after Mihira who was the renowned astronomer-mathematician of king Vikram’s court. Mehrauli is the corrupt form of Sanskrit ‘Mihira-Awali’ signifying a row of houses raised for Mihira and his helpers and assistants working on astronomical observations made from the tower. Having seen the far reaching and history shaking implications of the Arabic inscription concerning king Vikrama, we shall now piece together the story of its find. How it came to be recorded and hung in the Kaaba in Mecca. What are the other proofs reinforcing the belief that Arabs were once followers of the Indian Vedic way of life and that tranquillity and education were ushered into Arabia by king Vikramaditya’s scholars, educationists from an uneasy period of "ignorance and turmoil" mentioned in the inscription. In Istanbul, Turkey, there is a famous library called Makhatab-e-Sultania, which is reputed to have the largest collection of ancient West Asian literature. In the Arabic section of that library is an anthology of ancient Arabic poetry. That anthology was compiled from an earlier work in A.D. 1742 under the orders of the Turkish ruler Sultan Salim.he pages of that volume are of Hareer – a kind of silk used for writing on. Each page has a decorative gilded border. That anthology is known as Sayar-ul-Okul. It is divided into three parts. The first part contains biographic details and the poetic compositions of pre-Islamic Arabian poets. The second part embodies accounts and verses of poets of the period beginning just after prophet Mohammad’s times, up to the end of the Banee-Um-Mayya dynasty. The third part deals with later poets up to the end of Khalif Harun-al-Rashid’s times. Abu Amir Asamai, an Arabian bard who was the poet Laureate of Harun-al-Rashid’s court, has compiled and edited the anthology. The first modern edition of ‘Sayar-ul-Okul’ was printed and published in Berlin in 1864. A subsequent edition is the one published in Beirut in 1932. he collection is regarded as the most important and authoritative anthology of ancient Arabic poetry. It throws considerable light on the social life, customs, manners, and entertainment modes of ancient Arabia. The book also contains an elaborate description of the ancient shrine of Mecca, the town and the annual fair known as OKAJ which used to be held every year around the Kaaba temple in Mecca. This should convince readers that the annual haj of the Muslims to the Kaaba is of earlier pre-Islamic congregation. But the OKAJ fair was far from a carnival. It provided a forum for the elite and the learned to discuss the social, religious, political, literary and other aspects of the Vedic culture then pervading Arabia. ‘Sayar-ul-Okul’ asserts that the conclusion reached at those discussions was widely respected throughout Arabia. Mecca, therefore, followed the Varanasi tradition (of India) of providing a venue for important discussions among the learned while the masses congregated there for spiritual bliss. The principal shrines at both Varanasi in India and at Mecca in Arvasthan (Arabia) were Siva temples. Even to this day ancient Mahadev (Siva) emblems can be seen. It is the Shankara (Siva) stone that Muslim pilgrims reverently touch and kiss in the Kaaba. Arabic tradition has lost trace of the founding of the Kaaba temple. The discovery of the Vikramaditya inscription affords a clue. King Vikramaditya is known for his great devotion to Lord Mahadev (Siva). At Ujjain (India), the capital of Vikramaditya, exists the famous shrine of Mahankal, i.e., of Lord Shankara (Siva) associated with Vikramaditya. Since according to the Vikramaditya inscription he spread the Vedic religion, who else but he could have founded the Kaaba temple in Mecca? Encyclopaedias tell us that there are inscriptions on the side of the Kaaba walls. What they are, no body has been allowed to study, according to the correspondence I had with an American scholar of Arabic. But according to hearsay at least some of those inscriptions are in Sanskrit, and some of them are stanzas from the Bhagavad Gita (VEDIC SCRIPTURES).