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The Agni-Pariksha of Mother Sita is an interpolation by casteists & sexists Vaishnavas like Tulsidas.

<center> How can the god of destruction be the Supreme ? </center> Destruction is one among the three activities that is undertaken by the Three Holy Manifestations of sanAtana dharma respectively. That being the case how could one say Lord Shiva who gets associated with the destruction be the Supreme God ? braHma, viShNu, rudra, often referred to collectively as trimUrti, play the role of masters of creation, protection and destruction respectively. If we take this world as an example it is an easy task for almost everybody to involve in the acts of creation. (This is not to say that the Universal creation is a trivial task. All due respects to Lord braHma). Whereas as for as protection is concerned it is only few good hearted people, who have the strength and inclination to help for the cause of goodness do the protection deeds. But... not everybody is provided with the power of destruction. When anybody starts doing the destruction then there would be chaos which they call the law and order problem. There is normally one authority called government is given the authority to destroy and not others. This would show how difficult is the action of destruction and how carefully it has to be dealt with. This is the reason the act of destruction (to be correct this word should be actually "reduction", as things are not getting destroyed but only a change of state happens odukkam in thamiz and pralayam in saMskR^itam) is handled by a form of Lord shiva Itself, Who is called rudra. Since rudra is a form of the Lord, rudra is considered as Lord shiva Itself. Ok, so far only one part of the question is answered. Agreed, the importance of the act of reduction (destruction). But when this Lord being one among the Trinity, how can this Lord be considered the Supreme ? Let us take an example of a small shop. The owner employs a few skilled people to do the regular work and at peak hours or at critical periods, he/she also takes some important work and executes it. Now that individual wears two caps. One as the owner of the shop and other as the worker in the shop, but the individual is the same irrespective of whether he /she is acting as the owner or as a worker. Nobody questions his/her ownership because he/she shares the work load with the others in the shop. The same way though the Supreme Lord shiva is beyond the five deeds, It also takes roles in the critical deeds assuming a form specific to that role. So though Lord shiva gets associated with one of the three in the Trinity, He is the Supreme Itself. A point to note here is that it is not just these three actions, but there are totally five deeds which are the acts of/on behalf of the Supreme. These five activities referred to as panycha kR^ityam are creation, sustenance, reduction, illusioning and blessing. The holy masters for these five activities are braHma, viShNu, rudra, maheshwara, sadAshiva respectively. Of these the later three are nothing but the forms of the Supreme shiva (called parashivA). So to conclude Lord Shiva is the Supreme, Who assumes various critical roles and assumes appropriate names and forms, and also stands transcending all these.

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Who is Lord Shri Ayyappa ? Is he same as Lord Kartik ? All I know is he is Shiva's son, who is his mother ? Thank you

Indra, Agni and Soma are the Three Forms of Rudra (Shiva) in the Vedas. Indra is Tamas (Darkness or inertia), and relates to the highest forms of Shiva. Agni is Rajas (Passion) and relates to the Fiery Quality of Tapas and Rajas, Passion. Soma represents the Truth and is Sattva-Guna. These are also the Three Qualities of Brahman (Shiva) as: Sat (Truth) or Indra Chid (Consciousness) or Agni Ananda (Bliss) or Soma. The Three Forms of Shiva here, constitute his Three Heads. This is seen in the Three Heads of Agni, the Chid (Consciousness) form in Vedas or Rudragni (I.46.1). This later becomes Trimukeshvara (The triple-faced lord). These Three Forms thus become apparent in the avatars or forms of Shiva, according to the modes. Wrathful forms or avatars as Mahakala, Vajradhara, Bhairava, Rudra, Virabhadra, Pashupati, Aghora, Sarabheshvara etc. are the more Indra category, as the Supreme Form of Shiva that represents Tamas - but the Highest Tamas as Sat (Truth), that transcends all of Maya and goes beyond. Sundara, Ushanas (Asuramaya), Vishnu (Sadashiva), Dakshinamurti, Shankara, Shambhu etc. represent the more Auspicious sides of Shiva, and form the Soma or Bliss Category. Often these forms of Shiva represent the Crown Chakra, Wisdom, Youth and Beauty of Lord Shiva. They are the more Sattva forms. Yogeshvara, Skanda, Ganesha, Brahma, Yogeshvara, Goraksha etc. forms of Shiva represent the more Agni or Chid (Consciousness) forms of Shiva, as the Lord and Master who represents the Inherit Wisdom in Nature, and Control. It also incorporates the Quality of Rajas - but also the Control of Rajas, as in Tapas, and thus connects to Yoga and Wisdom forms. Brahma and Skanda are here also, as Fire and Rajas forms of Shiva - Qualities of Action. It is the Child of Shiva, Guru. The Agni or Chid-form also relates to the decent of Consciousness of Shiva, and thus his Human-avatars, as Rishis or Seers, like Agastya, Vasishtha, Goraksha, Dattatreya, Shankara etc. as will be explained later. He is Shiva the Human/Godly Teacher, whereas Soma is the Celestial and Adhyatmic Teacher beyond Ritualism. Soma or the Ananda, Sattva and Sahasrara form of Shiva is known as Sadashiva (Vishnu) or Parashiva in Agamic texts. He is the Supreme Source and origin of all, and thus personifies the Highest Abode of Shivasvarga (Shiva Heaven) in the Sahasrarapadma Chakra (Chakra with a Lotus of a thousand petals) or Soma Chakra. These ideas of Parashiva (Soma), as the Supreme Source, are also found detailed in this aspect, as both a God and Chakra, meaning the same as Agamas in Rig Veda: " [O Soma!]Father and generator of the gods, the skillful, the Pillar of the Heavens (ie. Linga), and supporter of Earth. Rishi and Illuminated Sage, greatest of people, apart and wise, Ushana (Shukracharya) in knowledge" (Rig Veda .IX.87.2-3) "Father of sacred chants, Soma flows onwards, the Father of the Earth, Father of the Celestial region: Father of Agni,(Skanda) the creator of Surya,(Brahma) the Father who gave birth to Indra (Shiva) and Vishnu" (Rig Veda.IX.96.5) Again, Soma here is Parashiva or Sadashiva, often identifies with Vishnu as a form of Shiva, the Primal Source of all Creation, Gods, Worlds and Beings. It is this highest abode that we seek top reach, and unite with Sundara Parashiva and his consort Lalita - both personifications of this Soma or Sahasrara region or Chakra - known as Satya Loka (Region of Truth) in both Vedic and Tantric texts alike. The teacher of the Somavidya or Doctrine of the Vedic Soma-Wisdom that relates to that abode, is Rishi Dadhyak in the Vedas, who teaches through the Head of a Horse. This idea later became apparent in Agamic and Tantric texts, where he is the Horse-faced Hayagriva is the great Seer and Teacher of the Shrividya tradition of Lalita and Sundara to Sage Agastya. Agastya himself, is actually Seer of the Love-Goddess Rati in Rig Veda, and also of the Goddess Rodasi - both who also relate to the Blissful Forms of the Goddess and Gods in later times which derived from Soma. Likewise, Sundara and Lalita are also called deities of love - Kameshvara and Kameshvari. Soma is also the Shakti-form of Shiva as it relates to Maya and the Moon - the Ida Nadi on the Left of the Body. Yet, as the vigour of Indra, the powerful forms of Shiva, it is also Indra-Shiva's "Shakti", and thus Soma = Shakti in many respects, also. As does the Vajra (Thunderbolt), which later changes to become Shiva's Trishula (Trident), Shakti-astra (Weapon of power) etc. and why Shiva is Shaktiman. Shakti is thus as much an integral part of Vedic forms of Shiva (as Indra) as it is in later times - which allows him to defeat the Demons through possession of it. Agastya is a great Seer of the Indra form(s) of Shiva and the Maruts or Rudras (Yogis, Nathas and forms of Shiva in Human and Divine forms) in Rig Veda also, especially Mandala I. His brother, Vasishtha, is the Seer of the great Shaivite Mahamrityunjaya Mantra of Rudra (Rig Veda.VII.59.12) - often addressed to Shiva as Mahakala, who takes us beyond the snares of the God of Death and Creation, or the Mayaic (Illusionary) World, and helps us physically and psychologically transcend all. Thus, the Rig Veda is the "Shiva Agama", which addresses Shiva's forms and characteristics in much simpler Yogic fashion, much like the Agamas and Tantras of later times, which also do, as opposed to the more Mythological Puranas and such texts. Thus, as in Tantra, in the Vedas also, does Shiva in his many forms as explained above, take on a more personal and intimate role, especially in Rig Veda. Indra saves the Vedic Kings Yadu and Turvasha from the Flood in Rig Veda (VI.54.1), and as Agni-form (Chid), he is the Saviour, Mother and Father (VI.1.5) or Agni as the Deliverer across he Ocean (I.99.1). Agni is first of Angirasa Seers (I.31.5), the auspicious friend, which connects again to Shiva as the avatar. Here we see Agni-Shiva as the teacher who takes us beyond all miseries as the Guru. Indra form of Shiva is also called the friend of the Munis (VIII.17.14), to Indra the Cosmic Lord (Rig Veda.VIII.87.2, Rig Veda.II.22.1), and Indra the father or mother and who grants bliss (Rig Veda.VIII.87.11). These relate to the Powerful Form of Shiva as Ishvara, who has the Supreme Yogic Power to take us to the ‘Great Beyond’. The Vedas are thus not texts about merely Nature-worship, but worship of Higher Cosmic Principles, of which the Natural Elements and Forces in Nature are themselves lower physical reflections of, in the realm of Maya, or Creation, as a mirror image. Agni is our Inner Divine Friend and Remover of Woes; Indra is our Inner Warrior and Soma is our Inner Vigour and Wisdom. With these Three, we become the Paramatman (The Supreme Self) and transcend all dualities - become Shiva and live in the world, and be not part of it. Shiva or Indra is hence the Lord of Non-Dualism and Detachment. The Vedas are thus texts of Spirit. Surya, Vayu, Varuna etc. all have higher Cosmic Meanings. Varuna for example is Lord of Primal Waters, and connects to the Demiurge and Cosmic Serpent, which lies in Svadishthana Chakra in the lower body. Vayu is the higher Cosmic Prana or Breath of Life, and also Yogic Forces of Vayus, and Surya is the Brahman-principle as the Inner-Sun which is the Soul or Atman, the Light-form of Shiva as Ishana that becomes all and pervades all of nature as Vaishwanara or Narayana. Vedic names for Gods also have higher meanings, often relating to Yogic Powers and Yoga. Gopati, "Cow Lord", a common term for forms of Shiv as Indra, Agni and Soma - also means "Lord of Lights", meaning Jivas or Souls, and also Lord of Sense-organs (Indriyas). The Vedic Gods are all Yogic Lords, ever-willing to aid us in the control of Senses or Pranas and to transform our being. The Seven Gods, Pranas, Horses, Wheels on the Vedic Chariot etc., for example, are representative of our subtle pranic centres, known as Chakras (Wheels) or Padmas (Lotuses) - the Seven Suns or Sun-Gods, and as Rishis are Pranas, the Shaktis of the Chakras in later Tantric texts. Shiva the Lord of Spirit and Transcendence then, pervades the Vedas, and is best represented by the Vedic Gods, of whom are his powers and forms that we identify with on a personal and cosmic level. As Rig Veda states, there is One Truth, but with many names (I.164.46; I.2) and, realising this, we become all the Seers and the Supreme, Realising our Unity with the God-born forefathers of yore, as Indra-Shiva himself (RV.IV.26.1). In doing so, we begin to see the Primal Being as all-pervasive in the Cosmos (as in RV.I.89.1), as mother, father, son, heaven, earth and the five races (or five castes: brahmin, kshatriya, vaishya, shudra and chandala or outcaste). This is Shakti, which is the divine feminine form of Shiva himself in the form of Maya, which helps us to understand all people, cultures, beings, worlds and planets as essentially one family. It is Shiva in his many forms who is the Lover (Mitra) and Friend (Sakha), Eternally Present for us. Seeing all Creation as him, we see that our lives and occurrences are his mere Lilas or Plays. Yet, with his aid, we can transcend these - the jobs of his expansions as the Vedic Gods. This shows that Shiva is very much a Vedic God, and refutes the idea of him as a pre-Aryan and non-Vedic God. His other ‘Aryan’ or Indo-European counterparts, such as Bacchus in Rome, Cenunnos amongst the Celtic Druids and Dionysus amongst the Greeks, also shows the existence of a Supreme Non-Dualistic deity, that was rejected by the Judeo-Christian traditions as ‘Satan’. His horns symbolised the crescent-moon, which were his symbol of immortality, the night and hence relating to the idea of tamas or transcendental darkness, beyond creation and the un-manifest reality. The Moon is also the symbol of Soma, and hence wisdom and immortal delights (amrita-ananda). Verily, the path of Shiva, the auspicious one, is the noble (arya) path!

it won't be easy for you to prove that Lord Krishna is mentioned in the real Vedas Here's what the scriptures say about Mahadeva: Fire is His head, the sun and moon His eyes, space His ears, the Vedas His speech, the wind His breath, the universe His heart. From His feet the Earth has originated. Verily, He is the inner Self of all beings. Atharva Veda, Mundaka Upanishad 2.1.4. EH, 159-160 He is the God of forms infinite in whose glory all things are -- smaller than the smallest atom, and yet the Creator of all, ever living in the mystery of His creation. In the vision of this God of love there is everlasting peace. He is the Lord of all who, hidden in the heart of things, watches over the world of time. The Gods and seers of Brahman are one with Him, and when a man knows Him, he cuts the bonds of death. Krishna Yajur Veda, Shvetashvatara Upanishad 4.14-15. UPM, 91-92 There the eye goes not, nor words, nor mind. We know not. We cannot understand how He can be explained. He is above the known, and He is above the unknown. Thus have we heard from the ancient sages who explained this truth to us. Sama Veda, Kena Upanishad 1.3. UPM, 51 This atman is the Lord of all beings, the King of all beings. Just as the spokes are fixed in the hub and the rim of a chariot wheel, in the same way all these beings, all the Gods, all the worlds, all life breaths, all these selves, are fixed in the atman. Shukla Yajur Veda, Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 2.5.15. VE, 716 He, the Self, is not this, not this. He is ungraspable, for He is not grasped. He is indestructible, for He cannot be destroyed,. He is unattached, for He does not cling to anything. He is unbound, He does not suffer, nor is He injured. Shukla Yajur Veda, Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 4.5.15. VE, 421 To Rudra, Lord of sacrifice, of hymns and balmy medicines, we pray for joy and health and strength. He shines in splendor like the sun, refulgent as bright gold is He, the good, the best among the Gods. Rig Veda 1.43.4-5, 64 Now, that golden Person who is seen within the sun has a golden beard and golden hair. He is exceedingly brilliant all, even to the fingernail tips. His eyes are even as a Kapyasa lotus flower. His name is high. He is raised high above all evils. Verily, he who knows this rises high above all evils. Sama Veda, Chhandogya Upanishad 1.6.6-7. UPH, 183 The bodily form of the Almighty, being constituted of powers, is not comparable to ours. Most conspicuous is the absence of anava. His bodily form, having a head, etc., is composed of five mantras, corresponding each to the five activities -- Isha, Tat Purusha, Aghora, Vama and Aja. Mrigendra Agama, Jnana Pada 3.A.8A-9A. MA, 119-20 To the strong Rudra bring we these, our songs of praise, to Him the Lord of heroes, He with braided hair, that it be well with our cattle and our men, that in this village all be healthy and well fed. Rig Veda 1.114.1. RVG, VOL. 1, 161 Instill in us a wholesome, happy mind, with goodwill and understanding. Then shall we ever delight in your friendship like cows who gladly rejoice in meadows green. This is my joyful message. Rig Veda 10.25.1. VE, 302 He is the never-created creator of all: He knows all. He is pure consciousness, the creator of time, all-powerful, all-knowing. He is the Lord of the soul and of nature and of the three conditions of nature. From Him comes the transmigration of life and liberation, bondage in time and freedom in eternity. Krishna Yajur Veda, Shvetashvatara Upanishad 6.16. UPM, 96 All this universe is in the glory of God, of Siva, the God of love. The heads and faces of men are His own, and He is in the hearts of all. Krishna Yajur Veda, Shvetashvatara Upanishad 3.11. UPM, 90 Unequalled, free from pain, subtle, all-pervading, unending, unchanging, incapable of decay, sovereign -- such is the essence of Siva, Lord of the summit of all paths. Svayambhuva Agama 4.3. SA, 56 Many of the asurAs worship Lord shiva and get boons as observed in the purANAs. Whereas very few of them worship the other divines. Why is it so ? Why should the God show grace to asurAs ? Lord shiva is the Supreme, Which does not have any parents Which never takes birth Which is all alone without association with any of the creatures or creations enjoying in the Self. God is the only one Who is dependable for anybody / anything to surrender to as It is the only perennial Being. Hence God is the Lord of all creatures (lives/souls). For this reason the Lord is hailed as pashupati (Lord of living beings). Whether it is devas or asuras or humans or other creatures all are pashus. That being the case how could the Lord be partial to one section of pashus and withdrawing the Grace for the other ? So anybody who worships the Lord sincerely could get blessed with Its Grace irrespective of the caste, creed, race, power, status and qualities. It is in fact to be noted that Lord shiva is worshipped by the devas like viShNu, braHma, indra, by asuras like bANa, rAvaNa, tripura, sUrapadma, by humans like sha~Nkara bhagavatpAda, samban^dhar, appar, by other creatures like jaTAyu, sampAdi (eagles), vAli (monkey) and the list goes on and on. One finds in the purANas the variety of people of different backgrounds and qualities worship the Lord shiva. There are many histories of temples which talk of the cranes, bees, elephants, spiders, snakes worshipping the Lord and getting blessed. So the Lord as the Supreme blesses anyone who worships in sincere devotion. There is no discrimination on who the seeker is. The Lord is so merciful that He showers the boons one look for when there is a determination to seek Him. It is evident from the history of asura bANa who attained a great fame of his valor and got the place in the abode of Lord shiva all due to his determined worship of the Lord. But..., if the receiver of the boons does not use them in proper way and misuses to disturb others, in the Lord defined system of this universe they get punished for the misdeeds. A closer analysis would show that the devas are the divine elements of nature that are essential for all of us to survive (like air, sun, fire etc). Very often asuras are the one who disturb the nature as evident from purANas. So when the asuras misuse the boons got to disturb the other lives they get punished as evident from the histories of hiraNya, rAvaNa and others. When the misuse goes beyond a point by the powerful forces so as to question the existence of the whole system, the Lord the One Who is essential for all the essentials, Who has devised this whole Universe, takes the action to restore normalcy for example like tripura dahana. Lord shiva is the God of all. Like the mother He showers the grace for all the children, but the misusing children get punished. This Supreme Lord better than a mother does not withhold the grace, He is our beloved pashupati. As the Primal Soul, God has a form, with arms and legs and a vast mind. In this perfection, called Parameshvara, He is creator of universes and ruler of all. A story tells of Siva as an infinite pillar of fire which Brahma and Vishnu cannot fathom.

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UTV's Arjun on course for end of '09 release End of '09 and Indian audiences will get bedazzled by 'Arjun', a glittering jewel from UTV's animated feature film treasure chest. 'As the titles suggests, the movie focuses on the Indian mythological warrior prince Arjun, one of the five Pandavas. Produced by UTV and directed by Arnab Chaudhuri, work on Arjun began in March 2007 and the feature film is planned to release by end of 2009. In fact the process of production of the first scene is on presently, where the artists are enjoying the designing part. A team of more than 75 people are currently working on the project. Arjun is a blend of CG and 2D as Arnab puts it, "The look of the film is 2D, but we're using a lot of CG getting there." The storyline begins with Arjun as a nine year old boy and follows him till he grows into the warrior that the world knows him as. It explores his life with his brothers in Hastinapur, his training and education and his ultimate discovery of the warrior within himself. Speaking with AnimationXpress.com about the theme, Arnab Chaudhuri said, "It's a great action story rendered on a massive scale." He added, "We are not reinventing anything, we're retelling a mythological story that most people are familiar with but we're giving it a fresh visual interpretation. You could find action parallels with films like King Arthur, Braveheart or Gladiator but the look and flavour of the film are definitely very Indian." "The research and development was quite tricky because nothing from the period really exists today. It is present in some scholarly research but our impressions of the period have been colored mostly by popular myth, hypothesis and speculation. It was both challenging and a lot of fun going back thousands of years and visualizing the costumes and architecture, the city planning and general lifestyles of people of the time. We're pitching our story on a very human level, it's an epic story with human characters with human feelings, so the ability to create and project a world that's believable is critical." Aditya Krishna, who is the animation producer for UTV said, "We were looking to do something great and inspiring. After much deliberation, we thought of Arjun, the Indian hero, who was the first warrior hero. He was a very charming and popular warrior prince, young, dashing and a true hero. He has a lot of aspirational appeal as a character and his journey of finding himself is very relatable to a lot of us today." "We approach our animation projects in a similar way to our live action movies – there is major emphasis on story, technical excellence, music, cast, production value… all of which help in creating a fine movie product that we will all be proud of," he added. He further informs that the film has been given a stylized look. The pre production is on in full swing as is the simultaneous production of the first sequence of the film. Arnab did not rule out the possibility of a sequel for Arjun once this project is done. Trailer <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-EezcpFzVI&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-EezcpFzVI&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

So this captain of a ship back in the 1680's was sailing one day. The guy in the crows nest said enemy ship ahead.The captain said 'get me my red jacket'.So a sailor runs and gets it. They battle and no men die. So the sailor asks why he needed it.he said 'so if i was shot and bleeding you wouldnt see and keep fighting' So the next day the guy in crows nest says '20 enemy ships ahead' Then the captain says 'bring me my brown pants'

Hello Bala All you need is a strong repellent for these Hare Krishna bugs

You have two choices in life: You can stay single and be miserable, or get married and wish you were dead. _________ At a cocktail party, one woman said to another, 'Aren't you wearing your wedding ring on the wrong finger?' 'Yes, I am. I married the wrong man.' __________ A lady inserted an ad in the classifieds: 'Husband Wanted'. Next day she received a hundred letters. They all said the same thing: 'You can have mine.' __________ When a woman steals your husband, there is no better revenge than to let her keep him. __________ A woman is incomplete until she is married. Then she is finished . __________ A little boy asked his father, 'Daddy, how much does it cost to get married?' Father replied, 'I don't know son, I'm still paying.' __________ A young son asked, 'Is it true Dad, that in some parts of Africa a man doesn't know his wife until he marries her?' Dad replied, 'That happens in every country, son.' __________ Then there was a woman who said, 'I never knew what real happiness was until I got married, and by then, it was too late.' __________ Marriage is the triumph of imagination over intelligence. _________ If you want your spouse to listen and pay strict attention to every word you say -- talk in your sleep. __________ Just think, if it weren't for marriage,men would go through life thinking they had no faults at all. __________ First guy says, 'My wife's an angel!' Second guy remarks, 'You're lucky, mine's still alive.'

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The gist of Advaita Vedanta is to realise that Shiva & Vishnu (Krishna) are One & the same. This is true Hinduism.

You missed the point, anyway in my personal opinion the Hare-Krishnas or Swami Narayans are not hindus, I'm saying this coz I personally know some HKs & SNs & I know what they believe in. I'm born Hindu & in India & I still donno who or what's Swami Narayan & on this forum some people claim he's the Supreme being, as for Hare-Krishnas they've really made an Abrahamic tyrannic god out of Krishna. what this lady (celina12) say's here "If you believe in your faith as the truth, then you want to spread the truth to others." & "There's no crime in spreading our faith, we have the right and obligation upon us" is definitely Abrahamic, than Vedic.

& you'd also find such a thread at a hindu forum only.

Told ya, there's always someone else to blame. Hindus, Christians, Jews even Buddhists all are out to obliterate peace loving, god fearing, ahimsak, vegetarian muslims, yup

who told you that only poorest of the poor are killed ? you mean the poorest of the poor travel from Virar to Churchgate by electric trains in Mumbai ? or the devotees killed at the Akshardham temple were poorest of the poor or the shoppers killed at Delhi's 'Mobile' market were poorest of the poor ? what about the 9/11 victims or the ones died in London, Madrid, Bali etc. what about this: Two Buddhist monks have been slashed to death in separate roadside attacks in southern Thailand, two days after a similar attack which police blamed on Muslim extremists. & this: A 19-year-old woman from western China's Turkic Muslim Uighur minority had been seized after trying to set a fire in a bathroom aboard the China Southern Boeing 757 on March 7.

Yes there's always someone else to blame How would you explain this: March 12, 1993 - Bombay bomb blasts, 257 deaths. February 14, 1998 - Coimbatore blasts, 46 deaths. October 1, 2001 - Terrorists attack Jammu-Kashmir assembly, 35 deaths. December 13, 2001 - Attack on Indian parliament in New Delhi, 7 deaths. September 24, 2002 - Terrorists attack the Akshardham temple in Gujarat, killing 31 innocent people. March 13, 2003 - A terrorist bomb attack on a commuter train in Mumbai kills 11 people. May 14, 2003 - Terrorists attack an army camp near Jammu, killing more than 30 people. August 25, 2003 - Simultaneous car bombs in Mumbai, 52 deaths. August 15, 2004 - Bomb Blast in Assam, killing 16 people, mostly school children. July 5, 2005 - Shri Ram Janmabhoomi attack in Ayodhya October 29, 2005 - Three powerful serial blasts in New Delhi at different places just two days before Hindu festival Deepawali, 70 deaths. March 7, 2006 - 21 people killed in 3 synchronized terrorist attacks in Varanasi in Shri Sankatmochan Mandir and Varanasi Cantonment Railway Station. July 11, 2006 - 200 people killed in a series of 7 train bombing during the evening rush hour near Mumbai. August 25, 2007 - 42 people were killed in two blasts in Hyderabad’s Lumbini park and a restaurant. May 13, 2008 - 63 were killed in 9 bomb blasts along 6 areas in Jaipur. July 25, 2008 - 2 were killed and 20 injured in 8 low intensity bomb blasts in Bangalore. July 26, 2008 - 29 were killed and over 110 injured in 17 serial bomb blasts in Ahmedabad. September 13, 2008 - 20 were killed and over 90 injured in 5 blasts in Delhi. & don't give me this "terrorists don't have a religion"

Buddha preached with the intent to convert. Do you know why there's only one Hindu nation in the entire world ?

Hey buddy, you got a fan club ?

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a 30 feet deep crater & about 40 killed in few seconds in a country where 99% of the population is muslim. full story

does that include fanatics from 'Hare Krishna' ?

Anti-Jew, Muslim attitudes rise in Europe: survey By Michael Conlon, Religion Writer Reuters Wednesday, September 17, 2008; 2:06 PM CHICAGO (Reuters) - Anti-Muslim and anti-Jewish feelings are rising in several major European countries, according to a worldwide survey released on Wednesday. The Washington-based Pew Research Center's global attitude survey found 46 percent of Spanish, 36 percent of Poles and 34 percent of Russians view Jews unfavorably, while the same was true for 25 percent of Germans, and 20 percent of French. Spain has not had a large Jewish population since expelling its Jews in 1492. The other four countries have a long history of anti-Semitism culminating in the Holocaust. The figures are all higher than in comparable Pew surveys done in recent years, the report said, and "in a number of countries the increase has been especially notable between 2006 and 2008." Opinions of Muslims are also dimming compared to previous years with 52 percent in Spain, 50 percent in Germany, 46 percent in Poland and 38 percent in France having negative attitudes toward them. Richard Wike, associate director of the attitudes project, said in an interview the poll did not try to find out why attitudes have changed but other data indicate negative attitudes toward Israel could be driving anti-Semitic feelings. He also said concerns about extremism and immigration may be a factor in negative views toward Muslims. Britain was the only European country without a substantial increase in anti-Semitic attitudes, the report said, with just 9 percent in that country rating Jews unfavorably. In the United States 7 percent had negative views of Jews as did 11 percent in Australia. But about one in four in the United States and Britain thought poorly of Muslims. "There is a clear relationship between anti-Jewish and anti-Muslim attitudes," the report said. "(Those) that view Jews unfavorably also tend to see Muslims in a negative light." The findings were based on interviews with 24,717 people in 24 countries earlier this year. The poll had error margins ranging from plus or minus 2 to 4 percentage points, varying by country. The most extreme anti-Jewish feelings, the poll said, were found in predominantly Muslim nations, where favorable attitudes were only in the single digits among Turks, Egyptians, Jordanians, Lebanese, and Pakistani. But in many predominantly Muslim countries there has been an erosion of support since 2002 for suicide bombing and other violence against civilians in the name of Islam. In 2002 about three-in-four Lebanese Muslims said such attacks could often or sometimes be justified, but the figure dropped to about one in three in the latest poll. Lebanese Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri was assassinated in a massive explosion in February 2004, setting off a wave of political murders. The survey also said positive attitudes toward Osama bin Laden have declined in several countries but the al Qaeda leader still enjoys high support in Nigeria, Indonesia and Pakistan. The poll also found: - France is the most secular nation surveyed, with 60 percent saying they never pray and only one in 10 rating religion as important in their life. - Anti-Christian attitudes have been on the rise in Spain where 24 percent now rate Christians negatively, up from 10 percent in 2005. - Majorities in Indonesia, Pakistan, Tanzania, Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan and Nigeria say they are concerned about Islamic extremism. Washingtonpost

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