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  1. Mxyz, I am most interested in any info you have on this subject.I have read the Bible, or at least some of it,and admit, sometimes, I have not understood it completely.There are so many things,it seems that leaves questions in my mind, and I hope, you and the other posters, can clear them up for me. I realize, as I have seen on other threads, that different people can read the very same book, and get a entirely different meaning from it. When you sit,and think about it,it would be a little hard to believe that God made animals for human consumption, with no regards for the pain and suffering,that is incurred with killing.It seems I am looking at alot of things differently,now, that I had not done before.I will looking forward to any info you have, when you have time. Debbie
  2. Ancient Mariner, I am not a "Christian",and I have not claimed to be one, because I am still searching for my way to God.I have read in the Holy Bible, where there are certain animals that are to be eaten.But I must admit it really confuses me.I feel that animals have souls and feelings,just as we,as humans do.I admit, in fact, for most of my life, I have been blinded, and did not see.I guess that is why God is a forgiving God.It is odd,if I follow one path, pain and suffering is allowed, but the other, it is forbidden.I know it is up to me to choose the right one.Surely, I would hope,it would be the one of preserving of any life.. Debbie
  3. Avinash, I just wanted you, and all the regular posters to know, even though, I may not post on this thread, unless I have questions, I am still here reading your replys.At this time, I am not knowledgeable in the scriptures of any book,because I am still learning.I admit that, but believe me, if I have questions, I will surely post, and ask. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gifJust wanted you to know,I was still hanging around. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Debbie
  4. Theist, Thanks,as always for your most helpful comments..I will check out the verse you have suggested.I guess I really know in my heart, that if I pray hard enough, that God really knows what I feel in my heart, and will guide me,if I just let Him.I also believe that he is merciful,and He understands different things that we go through in life..I know we are not all perfect. But even though we are not, I feel that the Lord will protect us regardless, if we just trust and believe in Him. Debbie
  5. Atma, Thanks.I guess time is the best answer for now.I am sure that I am at fought,mainly, because I was never raised to be a vegetarian.Being so, I had raised them,pretty much the way I had been brought up.As a child, my father worked at one of these places,that you and the others talk about.I knew no difference then.If I had known,and had not been blinded,maybe things would have been different, and I might have been vegetarian a long time ago.Then in turn,would have taught my children this way.So I can not put the whole burden on them,for continuing to eat meat.But, as you say, maybe, through information and knowledge,they may sometime have a change of heart, and follow into a new vegetarian life-style.I just have to pray and hope that they do.
  6. Atma, I know for now, I will have to continue to cook meat for my son and my husband, and for that matter the rest of my family.They are all adults, and the only way out of it is to refuse to do it.For now, they all refuse to follow me, in this life-style change,and as I said, this a choice, they have to make for themselves.It still does not change the fact,that if killing and eating animals is a sin,I am just as guilty, by cooking and serving it,even if I do not eat it.Do you think it be wise to simply refuse to cook meat,and I cook everything else, and they cook the meat?Any suggestions? I know He knows what is my heart, but will He forgive me for this? Debbie
  7. Theist, If you wouldn't mind, could you go the the "health and well-being" forum, and answer a question I had last posted there..It is listed under "Losing weight and eating healthy".I had presented the question to jndas, but have had no response, yet. It is a question that beginning to bother me, and I do not know the answers. I do not know if it would be appropriate for this particular line of discussions. Thanks in advance. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gifDebbie
  8. Theist, Thanks for your comments.In some ways I know to trust what I feel in my heart. I know I need a lot of guidance, but in the long run,you are right, to trust and put the faith in Him that lives within my heart. I guess you are right in saying that disagreements help eliminate misconceptions, that we have, as well.I guess everyone can learn something when questions, such as mine arises,but I just did not want to feel that I had started a disagreement between posters, that left hard feelings between them, because of me.I know I worry much to much about such things, and I guess that is just silly,on my part.I will try harder to not take such disagreements to heart,and will try to lighten up a bit.I am not that bad, I can assure you, but I just have to get use to all of you.. I will check out the "Letters to the Editor" forum, but I really like posting here, also. I have just got to get to know certain ones of you better.And I will, in time.. Again, Thanks for your positive comments. Debbie
  9. Avinash, I am sorry if I misunderstood you..Theist has assured me you are a good natured intellectual. Since I am new here, and am not familiar with any of you, I was not sure.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gifI am sure in any discussion, even in spiritual ones, there is always going to be differences in opinion.But since I know there is so many people that are prejudice against people from other countries,as I know this is present everywhere,and I do not know yet who I can really trust.Most of you seem sincere in your replys, and I hope you all are.That would be a great help to me, when I have questions that I need to ask in the future. And I am sure I will have many, because sometimes I may not understand somethings that are questionable to me. I just hope every time I ask a question, it does not bring on a debate like this one has done.This one has gone on for several days now.Once again I am sorry, if I misunderstood you. Debbie /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
  10. jndas, There is a question that has bothering me greatly. I know and understand about what you say about eating meat is a sin, because it causes pain and suffering to animals.I am trying to do everything possible to be vegetarian,and not eat meat or meat products. I am sure there are some things,I have yet to find the hidden meat ingredients, but with the help of Theist,you, and some of the other posters, I am learning more and more.What is bothering me, is that I am doing this on my own, and have not pushed my vegetarian life-style change on my family, because frankly, that has to be a decision on their part, and I can not make that call for them.My husband and son are old enough that they have to make their own decision.But I continue to cook and serve their food(meats)as I have always done. Does that make me a bad person, and am I just as guilty of causing pain and suffering of the animals, as if I had killed and eaten it myself. I am torn, and know not what the answers to the question.. Debbie
  11. Sushanta, Thanks, my friend.. Debbie..
  12. Theist, Thanks for clearing that up..I guess I do not know some of you too well, and I seem to take things too seriously.. Debbie
  13. Avinash, I am sure in anything, including religion, there is sometimes differences in opinion.It is no different than anything else,I guess. It never feels good to fight, to me, anyway.I realize sometimes this is how some people get their aggression out, but I did not come here to fight you or anyone else..I came here to learn more about finding a better understanding and path to God. As for fighting me until I accept defeat, defeat in what? Avinash, I stand up for what I believe in, but I do not feel I have to fight anyone here..OK Debbie
  14. jndas, Thanks for clearing that up for me.I had wondered about that so, I decided to ask. In the scriptures, does it provide a list of these certain foods, in addition to onions and garlic, that should be avoided, and the ones that are also accepted, either for spiritual reasons or health benefits..Are all the foods listed in the "Bhagavad Gita". I admit I have ate onions, and possibly garlic, but I really did not know that was a bad thing, or at least not beneficial to my health..I am trying so hard to do the things I should do, but I know sometimes I may fall short of doing it exactly right..I have stopped eating meat, which, so far has been no problem, but I am sure there are alot of other things, I still have to improve upon, to get this thing right... Debbie
  15. Mxyzptlk, Like you, I have noticed the waxy feel on tomatoes, as well as some other items in the fruit and vegetable line..I had never in all my years thought of the possibility it might be bug glaze..Theist had really open my eyes when he reported that in the post. I have just gotten apples from the mountains, and they do not seem to have anything on them, but from now on, I am going to pay particular attention to what I put in my mouth, especially when I purchase it at the supermarket, that is for sure.. Debbie
  16. Theist, I agree, unless I know that my vegetables don't have that stuff on them, I will start to peel them. In your findings, check and see if they do this in the U.S.,also to fruits and vegetables..Please keep us posted on anything you find out. Thanks! I have another question, if you don't mind answering. Are there any fruits or vegetables that are not to be eaten?Are all acceptable or is there some that are not..I have heard that garlic and onions should not be eaten.Please advise.. Debbie
  17. jndas, I know you had told me not to worry, but I feel I have open up a can of worms, so to speak, and it has got things in a uproar. I am sorry..I did not mean to cause this. I know everyone has their own opinion about things, and different people can read different things and interpret it in different ways. If people here would rather I not post, because of the questions I ask, let me know. I enjoy coming here to try to learn more, but I do not,in any way, want to cause problems between the posters you have here. Debbie
  18. theist, Normally I usually eat the peelings of some vegetables, because for one I like it, and the other, I had heard it contains vitamins. But since your post, I think I will be changing..If we don't know what we are eating, for sure, would it be best just to peel it, or avoid it all together, unless you know where it comes from..I live in North Carolina, and when not in season, some of our fruits and vegetables come from California, and various places.Are these safe from the insect glaze? To think I might had been eating insects is a disgusting thought. Debbie
  19. Avinash, The web site is www.asitis.com/. I know it has 18 chapters, but unsure if it has 700 verses.. I will have to check..
  20. Theist, Thanks so much to you,Mr Mxyzptlk, and any of the other posters here who have answered my reply.I will surely check out these sites for more information..The thought of insects as a shellac for covering some fruits and vegetables is digusting, to say the least. Theist,I just wanted to say I am having fun with my change to being a vegetarian. I am most eager now to try and enjoy most vegetables now. Some of these I had never tried in my life.If I like them, I will buy them again, if not, I will not bother purchasing them again..It has really been and still continuing to be a good experience to me. I have not craved meat, as I thought I would.And this has helped me in other ways in my food plan, as well.I no longer crave for sweets or just eat just to be doing something. I hope this new change continues throughout my life, not just my vegetarian life-style, but the search for a better spiritual understanding as well..I feel this is something I have needed in my life for a long time now.I am glad I had some how found this group.It is and I am sure it will continue to be inspirational, as well as proper guidance into some things I have yet to learn.I appreciate all of your help. Debbie
  21. jndas, Thanks.Sometimes in trying to study and learn some things that are new to me, I admit I get a little confused, because there are so many of you, that know so much more than I do on religious subjects.Sometimes I just have to listen to what my heart tells me,if what is said is truth or fiction.In any case, I will continue to read and study and with the help of some of you,find my path to God,and a better understanding how I can serve Him.I just wish I had someone around here who could give me proper guidance I need. jndas,after reading all and thoroughly understanding the Bhagavad-Gita(I want to take this in slowly),the other texts you mentioned,"bhakti texts",do you think they are available in the U.S.,or online? I am now reading the Gita online, english translation,of course.Do you know if this is in the completed form..I think this one has about 18 chapters.Thanks for your help, and for many of the posters knowledgeable replys. Debbie
  22. jndas, Thanks for your comments.When I asked this question, I didn't realize what problems it might cause. It seems to be a debate..I am sorry if I caused interruptions. When I finish reading the Bhagavad-gita, could you suggest what I should study next? Thanks in advance. Debbie
  23. jndas, I appreciate your reply..You have told me Theist can give me some good advice on my question. Is there anyway I can contact him without putting my email address in the post? I am sure, that the posters that have replied to me, would probably be ok, but I am unsure about some of the others.I know there are many hidden non-vegetarian ingredients, in foods that come in cans, in restaurants, etc...some with complex names that I, myself do not know..It would be nice, if he could email the information to me,or at least tell me where I might find the information I require..If I am going to be vegetarian, I want to do it right. I know the best way to be sure is to eat all natural foods in their purest form, but with todays fast paced life, I know sometimes, it is not possible..Theist,Please Help Me!!! Debbie
  24. Shiva, I have not in any way said that anytbing you have said is or is not in the scriptures.As you know, I am no expert, and I do not in any way claim to be at this point.I am still learning, and I have said many times, if I have a question,and something I have read is questionable to me, I will ask for some one to explain.I am sure many of the posters here, are that knowledgeable, so that is why I rely on them for help and guidance.I am sorry if you felt I was saying you were not telling me the truth. I also have my opinions about things, as you do, as well..Please do not take offense in anything I say. I am here with all of you, to hopefully learn more and more what I need to know.I have started by reading the "Bhagavad-gita". I know I have a long way to go to really understanding things I need to know..That is why I come to all of you for help.Just because I do not particularly agree on some things, that does not mean, I will not value your help on everything.As I have told you, I need all the good help I can get.. Debbie
  25. atma, I guess you have really hit something that was questionable in my mind, when I had read the earlier post that talked about women. Thanks for your comments, and detailed explanation..As you know, I am a woman also,and have 2 grown children. I know we, as women, are not as strong as a man, and have many emotions to deal with, from day to day.But I could not understand, the part that women were made more for sex than men.Sometimes, in this country, I feel some men,not all, think more with their lower anatomy, than with their brain. I do not mean that any of you posters feel this way or are in any way like this. I really feel all of you are quite different. In my opinion, most of you are very knowledge in our discussions..I hope you do not mind, me asking questions, that may or may not sound crazy to you when I have them..If I don't know, I will ask, and you can be sure of that..Atma,I realize whatever body we have,we have to try to understand God and our relationship with Him. I know there are some people, that may not like me, or what I say..So far, most people that have actually replied to me, have been really nice, and tried to help me with the best of their abilities, and I am truly thankful to have this kind of help..I desperately need all the help I can possibly get...Once again thanks to all of you..Debbie
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