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Whazzup with THIS? valaya
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Originally posted by melvin:
Anyone out there knows the
whereabouts of Jaya Sri Rad-
hey? If she`s banned forever
in this web site, then where
is your compassion to forget
and forgive everything what
she may have done to you to
hate her that much?
Email: jayasriradhey@ureach.com
I haven't been in touch with her for more than a month. My Email is amanpeter@hotmail.com if you want to discuss further. Peter/valaya RR
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Originally posted by JRdd:
Hare Krsna. This is such a vital topic. Apart from any systems for debate, there is an attitude. A basic attitude of respectfulness. As we have seen on these forums, respect must come from all sides or the discussion quickly falls apart. The good people leave or give up, as it is not possible to discuss anything with constant heckling. This seems to be a particular problem to cyber-discussions. In a physical meeting place, disrespectful persons would be thrown out. Also in a physical meeting place, few have the guts to speak out in such a manner in the first place, so there is less of a problem.
"Here is something from the introductory letter to an egroup I belong to. Nine months later, this group still maintains respect, which results in many useful and sweet loving exchanges as per the true mood of the Vaisnavas. I hope this sheds additional light on this discussion. I edited parts out for the sake of brevity, and added bold.
Introduction letter
"...my idea was that we are not any faction....We...feel that we all desperately need more devotee association without the harsh rhetoric and fighting. Therefore we make this ironclad rule, no insulting, or foul language, only vaisnava etiquette. We only want to carry out Srila Prabhupada's main concern, that we cooperate together.
"So, we would greatly appreciate your cyber association, and, you can discuss or read the topics that you want.
"....they must follow the protocol of objective reasoning without personal attacks. This...won't be the same old arguments and insults, etc. It will be strictly regulated by our protocol of discussion.
"The point is, we want to come to a collective understanding....How can we all come together in complete cooperation, if we
don't have a collective understanding?
"I am not totally sure how exclusive we will be in the acceptance or rejection of those who want to participate. Our cover letter explains that they only have to be a "devoted follower of Srila Prabhupada." But
then again, many claim to this, and at the same time they contribute to the cause of serious aberrations to his teachings. I think this will work itself out naturally. I personally will not accept those devotees who persistently insult other devotees. That is where I draw the line....The beauty is, that anyone who argues...will have to use objective reasoning and not the usual character attacks, etc. And, most important, we carry the discussion to the full conclusion, without any skirting of questions."
Swell, so where is this group? That way we will all be able to participate in both places, rather than attempting to remake either to suit ourselves.
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Originally posted by shvu:
Who is the soul of Radha? I have long since wondered about this.
The soul of Radhika is Her girlfriends' devotion for Her. This can only be relished by becoming one with them heart-to-heart and recognizing Her supreme postion in relation to Krsna.
For some the divine loving pastimes all point to this conclusion, while others negate even the existence of such personal activities. How then can they ever expect to understand the exteme intimacy expressed in these relationships, where `Godness` would be an impediment?
Most seek God only to relieve pain and increase their enjoyment. That power known as Sri Radha cannot be attained by those with such motives. That is why purification is required, and it is obtained through Her associates and the Holy Names.
Which of us would appreciate a close friend that wants only to study us or use us to get something, then always leaves us alone? How about a girl that becomes intimate with another just so she can enjoy her boyfriend?
Love of Love for the sake of Love is the ultimate goal for true devotees. Personalize that and you have Goloka Vrndavana which is pure Hladini potency; in other words, Srimati Radharani Herself.
valaya RR
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Originally posted by Satyaraja dasa:
Shvuji: Lord Sandwich? cool....
I did not know sandwich was the name of a person.
Satyaraj: For certain you couldn?t as you are a rascal atheist! This is another episode of a hidden avatara!
As you should known one of the main aspects of the Vedic culture is to eat with hands. Therefore Lord Sandwich has came to West to introduce Vedic precepts in this area. Only a very few occultists are aware of that avatara!
LOL! Glad to see your funny bone is still intact, Satyaraja prabhu!
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...and don't I just know it!
oops...
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Awight, vewy vewy funny! Now I see just what kind of minds I'm forced to contend with here!
Maitreya takes the cake, as expected, for both imaginative yet oddly expressive entries.
Next would be Reckless Recluse and Reknown Ranter.
Finally, dishonourable mention must be given to Rip van Rinkle (now if you'd said Ripped van Rinkle, maybe...).
Course you're ALL wrong! Also, you forgot Rambunctious Ridiculer, Randy Rube and (a personal favorite) Reeking Rot.
But enough about moi, eh? RR
[This message has been edited by amanpeter (edited 09-18-2001).]
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Originally posted by Satyaraja dasa:
If you want to fight for Krsna while other's may be fighting for their homeland, families, or the just right to visit Disneyland safely fine! Just fight! In other words, prabhu, become strong rather than allowing your mind to find excuses for personal weakness. We won't be able to help you there, nor will misuse of the philosophy of Krsna-conciousness, in an unrealized attempt to convince others as rationalization for your(false)self. Now is definitely not the time for vacillating!!! Peter/valaya
If you want to fight for Allah while other's may be fighting for their homeland, families, or the just right to visit Mecca safely fine! Just fight! In other words, prabhu, become strong rather than allowing your mind to find excuses for personal weakness. We won't be able to help you there, nor will misuse of the philosophy of Allah-conciousness, in an unrealized attempt to convince others as rationalization for your(false)self. Now is definitely not the time for vacillating!!! Osama Ibn Fatah
That's right, Satyraja prabhu. War is war and bullets have no morality. The only question on the front lines is, "Friend or foe?" Those who don't have an immediate answer are treated as foe and eliminated. It's called self-defense and although we may believe our real selves to be spiritual, few of us wish to become martyrs. On the other hand, our enemies are lining up to do so. That's what we're up against!
BTW, I don't see anything or anyone interfering with pilgrims visiting Mecca except for threats of terrorism from their own kind and, of course, trampling by fellow `pilgrims`. I wonder though if you could answer this philosophical inquiry, being our resident pundit and all: If Mecca should somehow become a large radioactive hole, would it still be a place of pilgrimage? Guess then the Koran's instruction that each Moslem must vist once before they die would take on a whole new meaning!!!
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War is hell, but the alternative can be much worse. Must each new generation be reminded anew? Were we all spoiled by the apparent ease with which desert storm was won? Is everything o.k. as long as our TV still works and the pizza's are just a phone call away? Whatever else comes out of this, I believe it will be a wake-up call on all sides and an impetus towards real spiritual committment.
Lest we forget, Lest we forget...
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Originally posted by Maitreya:
Concerning that letter to a terrorist;I think we should let Ted Kaczynski[aka the Unibomber]mail it in his own special way.
Maybe make a stencil and paint it onto all the special `gifts` soon to be delivered! They oughta get a real bang outa that!!!
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karthik_v, In this world the struggle for existence continues on all levels, like it or not. The freedoms we enjoy to discuss these matters over the internet or to practice our spiritual/religious beliefs, etc. etc. are only available due to the sacrifices and/or struggles of others. For certain things, I will fight viciously and to-the-death. This present war is one of them.
Perhaps your `higher` philosophical points can be addressed later, prabhu, if we're still in one piece. Right now, it's us against them. I am firmly convinced of the differences as well as the need to support our side wholeheartedly. Perhaps a visit to Afghanistan or some similar `culture` might help to convince you. Freedoms won at great expense can be so easily and quickly lost. Will you, or any of us for that matter, be in a position to regain them?
You might want to read the post on another thread about the treatment of women, including disfigurement by acid attacks, or are such incidents and the belief systems they are a product of, not important to you? Perhaps this too can be blamed on America?
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Originally posted by dasanudas:
Where is this AMAN name coming from sounds a little Palestinian to me.
I agree with all the servants of God.
But how we gonna get them to agree with us!
St.Amand, from some obscure French saint, of which I am neither. jndas just confirmed that I've somehow previously registered as valaya, so goodbye amanpeter as soon as it can be arranged. I'll keep the Email as it is for now. Course you devotees can call me whatever you like..."I yam what I yam!" (Popeye)
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Originally posted by rand0M aXiS:
better red than dead?
ouch!
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Originally posted by BDas:
I liked Siddha he gave me my first set of Jappa beads when I came to the Pitts temple.
They were some kind of blue Hawaiian seeds strung together. He called them Radha's tears. Anyone know what they were?
Radha's tears?! WOW! Sure would like a set of those, even a short mala would do...valaya
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Talasiga is now exchanging poetic complexities with the only one capable of fully appreciating on his elevated level--himself!
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Originally posted by rand0M aXiS:
Shake it once...
It's so old I gotta' whack it on something!
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the slut know as Bhaktavasya who smokes dope thinking it will cure her hepatitus disease.
Low blow, BB prabhu, even from you...
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What in thunder???
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Originally posted by stonehearted:
Naw--it's probably the only 'net thing I know--since I teach writing, I must have seen it in some handbook on things that work in email. I don't think they'd include ROTFLMAO, but I think they probably should.
Thanks.
I prefer ROTFLMFAO--rolling on the floor laughing my FAT ass off. The fun way to reduce that nasty middle-age bulge!
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Originally posted by suryaz:
Satyaraja you just do not get it.
This is not a war against Allah or any religious denomination that does not attack the intrinsic nature of the soul (Viz:free will). It is a war against slavery in the guise of religion. And the use of fanatical terrorism to insure its orchestration and peoples commitment to such
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Thanks suryaz prabhu! Excellent summation. Some like to debate themseves just for the stimulation provided. Kind of a mental masturbation...often these same individuals are found to oppose whatever is presented by others, seeking similar stimulation. None of this has anything to do though with my point, which is simply discussion ends when war begins. The only real decision at that point is which side is one on. Of course, there are those unable to commit themselves either way, for whatever reason. Best not to let them confuse others, if at all possible.
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Haribol Maitreya prabhu! Essence seekers are not all paramahamsas yet, though they're usually inclined towards raganuga bhakti. When Mulla Omar Run-Amuck (nyuck nyuck) is on the prowl, but guru has said you must keep your shika, keep it in your pocket!
Brahma das has admitted to being firmly fixed in the mode of passion. Of course that's one up on the mode of ignorance where I lie (literally) entrenched; however his creative urge appears to demand expression, while I can't really be bothered. Hope you'll be able to clear your head of all this so your heart can fully absorb the holy places on your coming pilgrimage. Who knows, they may not be there much longer on this physical plane. Wish I could be with you in more than spirit. Remember Radhika! valaya
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Originally posted by Tarun:
DL: Are you a man or a mouse?
Bob Hope: Where's the cheese?
My cat says, "Meow!"
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Originally posted by karthik_v:
Aman Peter Prabhu,
I am not taking a lopsided stand against the US and I have been dead against organized Islam, if you had read my other posts in other threads. Second, I am all for freedom and wouldn't lose it by any means. So, I am with you if you want to eliminate the Islamic terrorists.
But, I would be happier if Islamic terrorism itself is eliminated. Because, you can always eliminate one Islamic terrorist and produce 20 more. That would be counter-productive. The answer is to eliminate Islamic terrorism along with the terrorists.
Also, many don't realize the level to which these Islamic terrorists have penetrated countries like India and the USA. I am from India and I have seen it at grass-roots level. I have lived in Kashmir during the peak of militancy and know how they operate. Have you ever thought how they may strike back if the USA and its allies launch a war on Afghanistan? Imagine the possibility of an Islamic terrorist, exploding a vial of ebola or anthrax virus on top of a high-rise building. That will kill millions in days.
Also, several thousands of former-Soviet scientists have been rendered jobless after the USSR fell apart. They are ready to work for the highest bidder..I believe many already do. So, destructive technology is not out of the reach of these Islamic terrorists. And the recent attacks on WTC showed that they don't even need technology to be highly destructive.
That is why I feel a pragmatic approach is better than jingoism. That is why I stated that we should also rectify those policies pursued by the USA that would spawn future terrorists.
I agree with everything you've said. Please don't mistake me for Johnny Rambo! Unfortunately, I believe that there is little choice now except to declare total war, as has been done. During times of war, discussions about pragmatism and philosophy can be demoralizing and detrimental to the fighting spirit, whereas `jingoism` can inspire the unified efforts required.
Of course I realize the consequences inevitable in a conflict with an enemy such as this! That's precisely why this is not the time to question ourselves. Many a gunfight was lost in the American wild west, because the one with the fastest draw and the best weapon was unable to pull the trigger. Hopefully, as I said before, we will all learn from this, if we live through it. Then there will be endless introspection and self-questioning, at least in democracies such as the United States. That is a great part of America's strength, probably the most important at that, but now our efforts must be focused in a different way.
The decision to engage in all out war is certainly a difficult one and Americans are not so easily provoked. Once having begun, however, there must be no indecisiveness or turning back until the enemy has not only been vanquished but completely squashed, never to rise again. The inability to do the needful, unpleasant as it so obviously is, has been one of our major mistakes in the past and it has certainly contributed to our present situation.
Us vs. them need not be seen as good vs. evil or right vs. wrong, though this can be a strong motivation for some. Actually, it's a matter of survival. Yes, we could all be living simpler lives, without skyscrapers and so on, but we are together here on the internet, aren't we? Thus, by reaping the benefits we all share in the complicity and must assume some responsibility in the coming battles, even if it's just to keep up our own morale by firmly fixing our inner resolve. We can only imagine the strength of resolve needed by our avowed enemies to continue doing what they have proven themseves capable of. Keep the faith, prabhu!
Peter/valaya
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Who is closed-minded? Pretty well anybody with convictions. Those who defend `open-mindedness` so adamantly are obviously `closed-minded` on that issue! If we weren't all closed-minded to some extent, whatever we might have in the form of brains would surely fall out!
Where we should try to excercise caution is in what we hold convictions about. I see it as a pyramid. The top of my mind is easily changed, but the broader bottom part keeps the basic foundation strong; therefore that must be altered very carefully, piece-by-piece, if at all.
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