Sephiroth

Well that movement is dead. Now in the present you have Christians of all colors saying it is their burden to teach the wicked and the wrong of Jesus.

Unfortunately, my snake-garlanded friend, you very much WRONG.

The movement (to convert others) is not dead, it just take different form. From 1800s to late 1900s, Christians believe that black-skinned people are closer to animals and therefore, it was their duty to educate this black-skinned people on how to be civilised. This is called "White men's Burden" to educate others and later, known as "White men's Supremacy" which become basis for Apatheid in Africa, Communism in Russia and China and Klux Kla Klan in America, as well as Skinheads in Europe to this day.

Now, to prevent Christianity from dying again (this time by hands of Buddhism where Buddha play better role than Jesus did), Christians play a different tune. They admit that Christians in the past did horrible things and it is their duty to correct that mistake, all in name of keeping Jesus alive.

Don't be fooled, you are only save WHEN Christianity is NO MORE on this World.

Sephiroth,

I am just wandering if you follow the preaching of srila prabhupada (ISKCON)? If the question bothers you or is inappropriate, my appologies, dont reply. Thxs

Jai Radhe

Answer - No, I don't follow ISKCON's teachings.

I don't follow any beliefs which incorporate Christianity and Christians, because I believe that by doing so, you will only sow seed of your own demise.

I noticed many of the references comes from USA (Wisconsin). I wonder if they have proper authority to say such things.

Anyway, don't worry about it. It is useless to worry on what some Westerners (Yes, even secular Hindus from West are Westerners) say about India's heritage.

Jai Sriman Narayana:

In some news papers or articles whenever there is some news about a dalit being illtreated by upper castes, the people will generally tend to assume upper castes = brahmins while this is not the case. There are various classes among the so-called lower classes and this is what is not properly understood. This type of caste system is what is getting undue popularity/condemnation from everyone. I am not sure if Brahmins are really to be blamed for everything related to so-called upper caste problems.

So, yes, I agree, the entire society has to understand and change. I am still thinking this change has to somehow start from Brahmins. Simple things like renouncing TV, outside food, cheap entertainment etc can start from Brahmins. They need to spend time in learning / teaching etc and yet show happiness. This will arouse curiosity among others who will automatically come over and try to ask questions and pave the way for further learning for all including Brahmins.

Upper Caste are NOT Brahmins by whatever standards.

Brahmins are those who perform duties in temples and toward Gods and dieties. What does the Upper Caste does? The same? I doubt that.

Also, in Vedas, it stated there is 4 Varna according to the 4 Duties and even the Gita stated the same thing. So where does the other Upper Caste came from?

And why must Brahmins start first? Do you think anyone will bother to follow if they start?

If they renounce entertainment, outside food ( ) and TV and so on, will any else follow? Nope, you will simply say, "those are Brahmins and they can do it; we are sudras, we are too weak to change" and continue to live like pigs.

If you want to change the society, EVERYONE must change NOW and from THIS moment. Small change in household first, then gather together with other society members and change the society. Sooner or later, the whole community will change.

What does Sikhs have against Sri Krishna?

Faith heals, not your prayers alone.

if you have no faith, there will be no healing. Common sense ... something that Science fails to understand.

By Guest

I think this article is more about knowing your culture's reach and glory than to convince a muslim.

You should glorify your religion NOW and HERE by working toward Hindusm instead of talking on what Hindusm had achieved in one time alone.

What is your achievement for Hindusm NOW? That should be the question.

If you do nothing for your religion NOW, then you learn and pride yourself about past history FOR WHAT?

Back to my theory about Brahma ashtra and naga ashtra.

Many in India may not know it, but in the West, Scientists already developed Electrical-based weapons which used to harness and discharge against enemies. Tazer guns are one of such weapons.

Harnessing power up to 10,000 volts, a person with tazer gun can bring down an attacker up to half an hour or so.

EMP weapons are reported to be in research now. EMP uses Electro-Magnetic Impulses to neutralize electrical equipments and this can be found in naturally occuring phenomena like Sun spots and electrical storms.

I undertand waht you mean. Even in India, people are not taught about hinduism properlly. What I meant to say is no one teaches about Vedas, purans or Upnishads. I learn about Itihas through popular TV serials. I feel like the only reason I know more about hinduism is because I love to read and love stories. Sadlly My brother and cousin doesnot, and know so little about our beautiful trudition. I wish there were places equalant to christian sabbath school, where hindu children can learn about their faith, espically in America.

Why don't you start one?

Find other Hindus who have similar passion and start something like a community to gather information about Hindusm, educate yourselves and to show others who are interested to learn on what Hindusm is.

It doesn't need to be a school ... even under a tree is fine. No one said you need a large building with beautiful decoration, only then God will be with you.

I live in America, and you're right; they aren't supposed to teach religion in public schools! But, that is more or less the point that I am trying to make. Many people have no problem breaking the law and violating the freedoms of others in order to "save Hindus" and evangelize by converting them to Christianity.

Internet is a good communication tool since it allows others to communicate with each others, so, come online, spend time reading about Hindusm from proper websites, and discuss it with others.

You must educate yourself ... others cannot do it for you, especially in a place like America.

You can educate those who are interest in Hindusm as well, to prevent them from being victims of this so-called "Saviours" but try not to break the Laws yourself. And if you are strong enough, you can take actions by legal means for this law breakers and throw the book back on their faces.

Be patient and learn to be strong. Your path will be revealed to you if "He" thinks you are ready.

Why could you so interested in Yama?

by Guest,

The best example is Sri Krsna himself who went to Duroyadhana with a peace proposal, even after so much had happened, that if he gives 5 villages, war can be averted.

Asked for Five Village - answered No.

Asked for Five houses - answered No.

Even answered that Duryodhana will not even depart himself with 5 square feet of land for Pandavas. They even went to extend of humilating Sri Krishna. Answer - WAR. Not blind tolerance.

Why is Hindus BEGGING in their own land for rights to follow their own religion? Answer - Blind tolerance.

... But they are not inherently evil, even though many of them may be Abrahams, they don't accept the teachings of their religions to kill, loot and rape non-abrahams (many in fact genuinely try to avoid those passages of their religious books, ...

IF someone told you that the seat you going to sit have a bomb strapped to it, could you still go and sit down?

Of course not. because you have common sense to know that, even so the bomb do not go off this instant, it will go off sometime in the future and your a$$ will go with it.

But right now, Hindus are sitting on a time bomb called Islam. Even so the Muslims you see in India are tolerant, sooner or later, they will go off like a time bomb - same like what happened in Kasi/Varnasi.

Going by your example, if a consumer has choosen a wrong product and hence suffers (in fact may suffer literally like in Afghanistan, can't change the product or face death), do you pity them or get angry at them?

Both.

I pity them because they are animals. ONLY animals cannot change their own life and have to follow where their masters take them. Same here with those idiots in Afghan ... they follow their Muallah like cows waiting to be slaughtered.

And I angry at them because, they follow their stupid religion and instead of living in their own hell, they come and bomb and make trouble for other race.

by Guest,

Santanana dharma talks about Dharma, Satya and Karuna (compassion) also.

If you take out one component, then it would not be true santanana dharma.

I don't remember Compassion to be part of Santana Dharma.

... it is not the fault of the people.

Oh yes it is. Ever heard of Consumer Rights?

Not sure whether India has Consumer Rights or not, but in Malaysia, Consumers (buyers) HAVE the right to get the best product for their money and if the product is fault, they have right to sue the company, get back their money and stop buying altogether.

It IS the people's fault IF :

1. Do not recognise faulty products upon using it.

2. Do not attempt to reclaim their money back or SUE.

3. Continue to use the product even so knowing it is faulty and do not choose other products.

Consumers HAVE rights and ability to choose. IF they do not use it, WHOSE fault it is then?

By Guest,

No need to hate or get anger on all the misguided people, they were/are being carried under the force of Kali and when they realise it, time might have run out, only thing we can do is feel sorry for them.

You can pity them if you choose, me? I attend to kick them out of my sight and back into the hole they came out from.

This sort of people are "leftovers" from British Age - still consider West to be greater and more advance and follow them around like some stupid pubs. They are useless as far as I could see.

I rather concentrate in educating and making the people (especially youngsters) proud of who they are so they could have an identity and know that they belong to a group of special people who were peaceful at most time, BUT can fight back when forced to.

Japan is great today because about 400 years ago (in late 1700s), the Japanese Emperors there too stern steps to ensure that Christianity was kicked out. Japanese after the war face crisis with Christianity again and once again, it stepped out to ensure no Christian missionaries comes to Japan and corrupt Japan anymore, something India failed to do.

Sorry, India have a LOT of things to do if it want Santana Dharma back. Otherwise, Hindus do not NEED India anymore. They have settled down in Malaysia (and from there, to the rest of the World). Santana Dharma and Gita WILL exists, YOU will not.

So, if you want to survive - open up your minds, learn new things and and reeducate yourself. Find new friends in Asians and stop following Westerners in everything they do. You (Hindus now) FAIL to do this ... PLEASE don't blame others if you perish. Hindusm IS needed, Hindus don't.

by Guest

People like Ratheesh are the biggest threat to Hinduism. I bet he's some south indian christianized hindu, which is just sad. People like him are the real wolves in sheep's clothing.

if these sort of people think they are being so logical, rational and great in living in their so-called "reality", I suggest they go and "preach" to Muslims about their illogical religion. I want to see if Ratheesh's head still intact on his shoulders or not.

by Ratheesh

I may not KNOW but i GUARENTEE that no one else, including you, knows!!! That is a fact. None of us were around back then so none of us can truly know. All we know is based on the facts given to us in our lifetimes.

JUST because you are a certificited FOOL, don't expect others to be the same.

I have studied Hindusm in form of the 9 Avatars (of Vishnu) for years and I have brought forth various episodes of Actual events which could linked to what happened in the stories regarding the Avatars - from creation of the Universe, Cambrian Explosion and creation of Mitochondria (driving force behind ALL (non-plant) lifeforms, Genetic knowledge (by Parasurama Avatar) and such.

WHAT did people like you brought forth for your Hindusm? NOTHING. WHY? Because you're NEVER a Hindu to begin with.

Please do not offer false hope.

You have NO beliefs therefore, you only see false Hope. Don't blame me if you do not have faith in God.

Most importantly, please do not change the present facts, thereby disrupting all future attempts to truly understand the original truth.

WHAT is fact? Who talks facts here? You? Nope ... people like ME who talks about facts. People like you only talk about false beliefs which you yourself have problem believing, which is why I said you have no belief in God.

When Christians come and whine that jesus come and commit suicide for Man, people like YOU are the first to hail him onto your shoulders and parade around like the fools that you are. WHY? because Jesus offers you Placebo Effect - foolish notions that your sins are forgiven and you can indulge in as much as sinful activities without worrying about Hell.

But when Hindus come and bring forth their truth to the World, people like YOU who claims to be Hindu becomes their first enemies by riddiculing them and even try to dislogic their arguments from within.

My personal opinion :- People like YOU are the first to be gathered and shot in the street IF Hindusm were to be revived again. WHY? because people like YOU are traitors in the midst and MORE dangerous than any foreign Muslim or Christian.

While your tales of Indian greatness in the past is nice to hear, it is not a reality, it is only a fake delusion taht you live in.

You want to know what is facts are?

Facts are :

Creation and Expansion of the Universe as accepted by Modern Science already described in Hindusm - FACT.

Cambrian Explosion, Creation of Mitochondria and Quantum Consciousness (all which can be found on the Net) is accepted by Science already described in Hindusm (Kurma Purana) - FACT.

The Evolutional Stages of Life and Man as stated by Darwin and accepted by Science - described in Hindusm by the 9 Avatars - FACT.

Mendel's Experiments with Genetics as stated by Parasurama Avatar - FACT.

FACTS ... FACTS ... FACTS ... I deal with FACTS, NOT bullsh!t like mindset that those (Puranas and such) are fairy tales which one should ignore. UNDERSTOOD?

Please accept facts and do not try to "MAKe" hinduism greater than it is. Leave it to God to make it great.

Wrong ... Those who do not have faith in Hindusm WILL say nonsense like this. Hindus WILL not. You are NOT a Hindu, you are a pretender.

Over-glorification of the religion for psychological/ego gains in the present will eventaully bring about the downfall of the religion in the future. Perpetrating falsities for present wellbeing will surely come back around and karma will bite you in the ass in the future.

If I do something for Him, He will bear me - teaching of the Gita, is it not? WHY should I fear to glory Him then?

So please, live in reality - - - - - - not in a fantasy world where the history of india lives outside of the reality of the history of everywhere else.

You're the one who living in fantasy world of self-delusion and Self-indulgement. You fear that if what stated in Hindusm is true, then Karma is true also. Which means all those nonsense that Sins are forgiven is false. Your sins WILL come to haunt you and that is the nightmare for people like you. So you attend to make things false by turning it into blind truth (false truth - you think it is true but ONLY to your acceptance level).

by Kalkin714

Lol. Well you'd better go tell the Unitarian Universalist church that they don't exist then. You're a riot!

Why should I be bothered to tell them anything? As far as I consider, they are God-less people and I have no interest in saving any God-less people like Muslims and Christians.

You see, this is what we call the fundie veiw.

I don't give rat's a$$ what you call such views. FACT - Muslims AND Christians consider you to be DAMNED. That's all that matters here. Capiece?

My dear jack ass, I wasn't talking about south Africa, or modern missionary Christians.

DO NOT PATRONIZE ME, FOOL.

I have already informed you of Christians' creation of Apatheid System in South Africa and their role in destruction of China and also several Asian countries. ALL this ARE proven HISTORICAL FACTS.

Not enough? Go and read about Christians creating Communism in Russia. Not enough, India's current Caste System is based on British's Divide and Rule policy which they used in India and Malaya. ALL PROVEN HISTORICAL FACTS, even agreed by Historians in recent Discovery Documentary named "Legacy of Great Britain" which aired a few months ago.

So I do not need to proof to you anymore about Evil of Christianity and Jesus Christ anymore. There is more then ample proof. Only choice you have is whether you ACCEPT or DENY.

You know I've seen someone say that the world, all of the illuminati and free masons who supposedly run the worlds governments are all controlled by Brahmins in the mountains of N. India. And what you just said is just as silly.

Silly because you are not a Hindu but a (probably) a Christian in disguise. That is why you do not accept the Evil Christians had commited and continued to commit TO THIS DAY.

So a bunch of non-jews who happened to come to Isreal then decided to follow some guy around who no one else was following (since no Jews beleived him), decided he fullfilled Jewish prophecy and then spread that message out side of Isreal?

WHAT Prophecy? Jesus NEVER existed ... how are you going to say he fullfilled ANY prophecies? Historicans cannot find ANY traces of Jesus ANYWHERE and several Historians agreed that Jesus was a Myth created by Romans who followed Zeus (Roman Pagan belief) and made Jesus myth.

WHY do you think Jesus's birthday falls on Dec. 25? because that what his birthday? NO, that is the time of Winter Solistic - common festivals which Romans during that time.

PS : READ book called Ceaser's Messiah for further detail of Roman's Jesus Christ and how they managed to fool the World for 2,000 years by stating that they are continuotion of Jewish Tradition and even fooled Muslims into accepting them.

Oh yes, because if you know a Jewish word that makes you an expert! Sephiroth is also a caracter in a video game.

Hmph ... Arrogant fool.

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How many times did Indra used Thunderbolds? I don't remember him using it much so cannot say much also.

Matter a fact, didn't Ravana's son conquered Indra and got the name Indrajit and he got Naga astra which he used against Sri Rama later? There's a link between Naga astra and Thunderbold.

by Ratheesh

Although I have no idea what the real weapons were, and i dont say outright that it WASNT the weapons you propose, but im strongly leaning towards the latter.....

My best guess would be to look at it practically, saying at first that 'i dont know'. we should all say that and work towards answering that question rather than coming up with possible suppositions based on weak connections.

If you do not know, then do not waste my time with some nonsense about groups and people.

Dear Kalkin714

Hmph you are as blind as you are foolish and ignorant. You do not know enough of this World.

First lesson about forums :- DO NOT write in Multipost (more than one post). It is considered improper to write in too many post, especially when others are answering your post.

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could you please stop with this universalism crap! This is a Hindu forum discussing Hindu philosophy! Go market somewhere else!

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Question - Are Muslims Universalists? Are Christians Universalists? Answer - NO in both account.

In Christianity, you MUST accept Jesus or damned for eternity. In Islam, you MUST follow Muhammad and his ways or damned for eternity. So it this Universal? Is this acceptable by Govinda's standards?

So Christians = White supremicists then? Well mabey you should tell that to the millions of members of original Christian churches in Africa, the Middle East, India and China. I'm shure they'll be interested to know that they think that they are superior to them selves and should dominate themselves.

My dear shallow-minded friend, the Africans knows this already in a term called APATHIED which existed till some 1980s. Perhaps you heard of them, if you ever bothered to educate yourself.

In Apatheid System (which by the way, was broken by Mahatma Gandhi who taught Africans how to stand for themselves when he was in service in South Africa), White men are considered superior and Black men are considered lower than them. Christianity is taught to them NOT because they are equals, but because Christian White men had compassion and wish to save lowly black people.

In China, Christian Missionaries worked hand-in-hand with Merchants to bring Opium in and drug Chinese Youth. When Chinese Official tried to stop them, Missionaries hide Opium addicts and sellers alike in their Churches in name of Jesus and Compassion.

In Japan, they (Christians) tried to trade weapons to warring parties in Japan but Japanese Shogun were smarter ... he kicked out ALL the Christian Missionaries out of Japan and closed the country to foreigners.

In India ... well, I'm sure you don't need history lessons. Middle-East ... Christians worked together with Romans at first and then Muslims to wage war with Jewish People.

The brand of Christianity that is responsible for heinous crimes to humanity the globe over is a product of the Roman empire's government, not of Jesus or his apostales.

Maybe someone fooled you into thinking such, but please ... do not attend to fool me. I took Asia History Major and I know the history of almost ALL Asian country in Asia, and most of the the World's History.

Christians ARE responsible for ALL this crimes against Humanity. They are NOT product of Roman empire like you claimed. Do you know why? Because Rom perished before Islam came but Christians continued to corrupt Asia and South America. That is proof enough.

Guess what Sephiroth? The people who originaly belived in Jesus as the fulfillment of messianic prophecy and spread his message to other countries.........THEY WERE JEWS!!!!!!

Wrong ... I stated already that Jews had REJECTED Jesus and his claims of being Son of a God. Jewish God - Yahweh (simply means One who is Eternal) has NO Sons, Daughters, Beginning, End or an Equal.

You know very little about Christ's message or Jewish spirituality.

Hmph ... I will persume you do not know the meaning of my username.

It's unfortunate that Hindus continue to disgrace the holy figures of other religions. Hinduism itself believes in the concept of Avatara. Does that mean that God takes avataras only in India? I dont think so. He sends his message throughout the world. Jesus was a holy figure. I'm not Christian, but even I see divinity in him. Never disrespect a man who only preached love for God. Isn't that just a form of bhakti?

Love your ishtadeva, love your Guru, love your shastras, but never disrespect other forms of dharma.

Going back to the original topic, does anyone know why India get's so little credit for its accomplishments in mathematics and science? We still do have manuscripts of Bhattāchārya and Bhaskerāchārya from the 10th and 11th centuries. Why aren't they accredited?

You need your head to be examined. How can you say Jesus is a holy figure when the people who he (allegedly) came from - the Jews - had rejected him to be a Holy figure? What? You are wiser than Jews who studied their Scripture?

Don't be fooled by Christians and Christ. His so-called love is conditional one - you MUST accept him or damned for ever in hell. THAT is the love of Jesus and his god. Such concept DOESN'T exist in Judaism.

Read : http://search.aish.com/jewishissues/jewishsociety/Why_Jews_Dont_Believe_In_Jesus.asp?s=g&k=jesus

Question to your answer on why India gets so little credit had already answered. Answer was - White men Supremacy.

Take History for example. West still believe that Egypt is the oldest (modernized) civilization because their Bible stated so (it never stated so in Hebrew, it just didn't mention any other civilizations).

So, if you suggest something like Dwarka which existed 5,000 years ago, you have to ask them to re-write their history books and Christians WILL NOT do that.

Same way, Christians attend to look at their civilizations as the most advanced in the world, slowly coming from Dark Ages and into a new Smart Age. To think that they were in Dark Age for thousands of years while Hindus were measuring distance of the Sun and monitoring the Stars is too much for them to accept. Their Egos WILL NOT allow it.

ONLY way Hindus can get credits their deserve is by promoting their own culture, heritaga and history, especially to their own Hindus first. Never mind that Christians don't give you credit, you should start crediting yourself and your forefathers first.

Do you know what is Contract Marriage? Check it on the Net.

That is what Muhammad - founder of Islam practise. And that is what Muslims in various nations like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghan and even in Malaysia are practising.

WHO said Al Quran stated only one wife? Muhammad himself married 13 (THIRTEEN) wives, including a 8 year old Aishah, which by today's standard means illegal.

Wow, so Jesus cause the dark ages huh?

What's with all the "Christianity is evil" crap on this forum? Sri Jesus preached Love. You can't blame him for what the church-state did in his name a couple hundred years later. That is if infact Christianity is somehow to blame.

Hmph ... Since when did Jesus gets a Sri title?

Problem with Christians are called "Whitemen Supremacy" concept. You may want to run a check on it on Google for further information.

Basically, Christians came to believe that they are chosen people of God for accepting Jesus, a son of a god. They came to believe that their White-men culture was above all and they alone were modern and civilised, while others, especially the dark-skinned people, were uncivilised barbarians.

Matter a fact, till as late as 1900s, Christians from Europe still argued that Europeans NEED to rule over the Asians because it was "White men's burden" to educate and civilise Non-Christians thus saving them with grace of Jesus Christ.

That attitude was the reasons for Europe to be in Dark Ages for nearly 300 years. And Yes, Jesus WAS to blame for it.

Problem with Western Science is in the way on how they started something out.

About 500 years ago, Europe still Dark Ages, thanks to Jesus Christ and Christianity. The Black Plaque managed to wipe out nearly 40% of Europeans and it took Europe almost forever to come out of its shell and recover.

At that time, Europe was in war with Muslims in the Crusades but some of the knowledge Muslims stole from India managed to be stolen in return by Christians who revolutionized Europe (like Maths, Astronomy etc).

However, Science in Europe started in the wrong foot. They pushed away Religion off Science and looked at Science in a blank, spiritual-less and blind-logical ways. And Europeans, growing up in this empty mind, begins to view other cultures as lower than them.

They came to believe that they are advanced in Science while dark-skinned Africans in Africa or Hindus in India are lower and less Scientific-minded than they were. The concept that Hindus could be smarter than Europeans AT LEAST by 1,000 years NEVER crossed their mind.

I have been studying concept of Magic from various cultures for nearly 10 years now, I think I have a pretty good idea how things works.

The four basic elements of on this World is Fire (Agni), Water, Wind (Vayu) and Earth, and in many ways, all four are equal in strength and can strenght and weaken each other.

But there are higher Energies which bound this forces - Magnetism, Weak Nuclear Bonds (whose which helds Elements together), Strong Nuclear bonds (like those who holds human molecules together) and such.

So, ancient Hindus could have experiemented with Magic, developed magical weapons by using Mantras and named it according to their respective Dewas.

Brahma is Lord of Creation so the weapon of Brahma (Brahma ashtra) is most likely related to Power of Creation.

What is the basic of ALL creations? Answer - Atoms. So, is it NOT too hard to consider that Brahma Ashtra - the most fearful weapon in Mahabratha Epics IS indeed Nuclear Weapon?

Ancient Hindus have a nag for naming elements based on their Dewas - Gaseous substance is considered Vayu Energy (based on Vayu Dewa), fire-based elements is named Agni Energy (based on Agni Dewa) and so on. So, maybe Hindus have somehow understood that Atoms are the very basic of ALL creation and associate it with Lord Brahma.

What about Naga Ashtra? What is that? My belief is that it is refers to Electricity.

Naga Ashtra always refers to "snake"-like force which slitthers down to its victim, strike the most vurneable spot, kills IF not paralyse its victim (like what it did to Sri Rama and Laksamana). All this shows a certain degree resembles to Electricity.

If you study victims of Electricity, you will know that many victims were not burn in the whole body like fire did but specific parts like the heart was struck and forced to stop. The electricity will move across the hands or feet, through the nerves system and strike the heart.

So, in my opinion, two of the most powerful weapons of Mass Destruction stated in Mahabratha IS on this world already - Nuclear Weapons and Electricity.

OK, open for comments now.