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Krsna is totally controlled by love, totally. And Sri Radha is the highest personification of that love.
You see, Gaudiya Vaisnava's express their devotion and service to Sri Radha. If Sri Radha is pleased with the devotees devotion and service, Sri Krsna is sure to be pleased.
Surely God is nothing but love, as seen so mercifully by the appearance of such beautiful scriptures. To wait upon the appearance of this love to manifest in the heart, must by the pinnacle of life for souls.
Just a humble opinion.
About Krishan living Radha, a sincere devotee cannot question that to krishna. Krishna's position is very very subtle , difficult to understabd with the normal human mind. Which makes nothing other than the so called distinction with the lviving entity. The following verse from gita makes more sense of what I am trying to say in the above lines
janma karma ca me divyam
evam yo vetti tattvatah
tyaktva deham punar janma
naiti mam eti so 'rjuna
Lord's activities are transcendetal so are his activities involving leaving radha. You can question them then you are bringing krishna to the normal human being level
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Could you kindly explain to me who Sri Chaitanya is? I have never heard of him.
I don't understand this. Krishna makes no mention of Vrindavana and says that if a woman leaves her husband, she will not be able to attain the heavenly planets (Swarga). I have no qualms with this, however, why should chaste men be able to marry again after leaving their bad wives, but chaste women be punished for leaving bad men?
What did Krishna do to Radha besides leave her?
Have you read Srimad Bhagavatam? if not, no point in discussing anything about sri Krishna , so is the case with Lord Sri Krishnachaitanya....Gita is a nectar though, yet Bhagavath is the nectar of the nectar:)
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Bishadi, no offfence but the langaue you use appears as if I am reading some psychiatric journal...
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Hare Krishna!
Hello to all the nice devotees on this forum, please accept my humble obeisances.
I do not want to get involved with any kind of sectarianism or groupism but I would like- and need- some nice vaisnava association. Please can someone tell me of any nice vaisnava groups or associations?
Thank you very much.
Mira.
Its not following this sect or that sect. Its about following the spiritual masters who have been referred by the scriptures. Isckon spiritual master Sri Lord Sirikrishna chaitanya has been referred in the scriptures (so are his followers, obviously). So if you want the real bhakthi you can find here. However, there are other lines like Sripada Madhwa, Sri ramanuja sects, which are also genuine ones. So its up you to follow. But, to say in that manner " NON-ISKCON " would irk some particular vaishnawas. And offending any vaishnawa wouldnt serve the purpose of serving Krishna.
You have come to this forum, its nice now try to get as much as possible without offending any Vaishnawas...
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Everybody can see if humble without selfish intent and just because that one sect you pursue stands as a rock be humble to the brethren all over the globe and see through their eyes.
No clue what ya trying to say! use formal english
As for the sciences; they are universal and theology are renditions of men based from knowing but without the ability to articulate for example a 6 armed Shiva or Ganasha; a man with an elephants head; the son of Shiva who is of Vishnu the supreme, some blue guy!<?xml:namespace prefix = o />
And you represent what?
As you mentioned it as theology ( I never say them theology, its coined by modern day fools and rascals), its science , the science of soul. Well everything has got PERFECT meaning, but the basic requirement to learn in the spiritual science is the humblenes and surrender, well the proud people have no place here.Be happy with your material science. If you wish you can see and talk to the four handed Shiva and elephen headed Ganesh or for that matter with much of austerity blusih Lord Visnu... You see as your sceince books, there are certain books, which asks you to follow certain rules and following them in that way, u can even talk to any of the gods, or perhaps ask them why they have four hands and elephant head or bluish color:) . Why do ya think you have got two legs and 2 hands, why cant ya have four legs like animals or whay cant animlas walk like you, hope you got the answer. It makes no sence to citique without having the tiniest knowledge about spirit and its significance..just blabbering wont do:smash:
God is the total and it is only because of honoring him does man even learn the sciences. We pursue to understand as God intended. Are you on a computer? That book didn’t make it. Learn with questions versus putting the ‘old’ foot in the ……
Greatest comp your mind; when the mind is Kaput u need a comp, see books its writen duriong the age of kali, the mind cant remember things , so needs a comp .. U see again the books have taken its part, afterall they are written by supreme he he
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Poti pade pade jaga muha; pandith hua na koi
Dhai akshar prem ka so pandith hoi
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Its good ol' RedSox again, asking some pretty interesting questions , eh?
What is Tamasa way of praying God? Narasimha installs fear in us, it shows how God gets when he is angry, so you try to pray him in fear of him, then is that Tamasa or Sattva?
Fear of God is not tamsic! Prayer could be tamsic though
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i have a brief knowledge about karmas.i know that karmas get extinct when they bear their fruits of action in course of time... my doubt is that how do we clear our daily karmas...
after every karma do we say 'krishnarpanam' or at the end of the day we pray to god and offer all day's karmas to the lord?
pls clarify....
thanks
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Krishna has to be appeased!!! Krishna's devotees have to be exhalted whole heartedly, they have to appeased. Go become a greatest of the devotees, sins would vanish in no time. What sin can touch for the one who has taken the shelter of a pure devotee of the lord....That says it all........
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Diary of a Traveling Preacher
Volume 7, Chapter 15
September 9 - 12, 2006
By Indradyumna Swami
"Bearing the Burden"
During the festival in Odessa, one of my aspiring disciples asked to see me.
Fifteen-year-old Radha Sakhi dasi was born into the Krsna consciousness
movement. When she was a child, I gave her a lot of attention and care, as I
do for many children, and while we talked, I could tell that such love had
borne fruit.
She told me that her mother had recently passed away, a few weeks after
suddenly coming down with a lung infection. Radha Sakhi was alone in taking
care of her and was with her when she died. Though shaken by her mother's
impending death she bravely collected herself, and put a Tulasi leaf into
her mother's mouth, poured Ganges water on her head, and loudly chanted the
Hare Krsna mantra into her ear.
"You did the right thing," I told Radha Sakhi. "Just as your mother brought
you into the world and helped you become Krsna conscious, so you helped your
mother to leave in the most auspicious circumstances. Mother and daughter
have proved themselves to be the best of family members by serving each
other's deepest interest: to return back to Godhead."
The day before I left, I initiated 10 people, bringing the number of my
disciples close to 2,000. The next morning as I was packing to leave, I had
a small seizure. My body stiffened, my neck and arms were full of intense
pain, and I couldn't speak. It lasted only a minute or two but left me
exhausted. As I went to lie on my bed I tried to understand why it had
happened.
"I am in good health," I thought.
Then I remembered that the same thing had happened two years ago, just after
another initiation. Although Tamala Krsna Maharaja once told me not to
attribute bad health solely to the karma of my disciples, I couldn't ignore
Srila Prabhupada's statement in Perfect Questions, Perfect Answers, that a
spiritual master takes on the burden of the sinful activities of his
disciples.
"Krsna is so powerful that He can immediately take up all the sins of others
and immediately make them right. But when a living entity plays the part on
behalf of Krsna, he also takes the responsibility for the sinful activities
of his devotees. Therefore to become a guru is not an easy task. You see? He
has to take all the poisons and absorb them. So sometimes - because he is
not Krsna - sometimes there is some trouble"
[Perfect Questions, Perfect Answers, Chapter 6]
I had thought about stopping initiations last year but decided to continue.
Now, as I lay on the bed, it became obvious that something had to change. I
decided that from now on I would accept disciples only if I knew them well
and had long-standing relationships with them. I would be more selective.
Then I got up to take a shower. While lathering I slipped and fell, hitting
my head hard on the floor. I was knocked out for a few moments. Then I woke
up and stumbled back to the bed.
"That makes my decision even more firm," I thought.
That afternoon a young man approached me with a letter of recommendation
from his temple president asking me to accept the boy as an aspiring
disciple. I politely refused. Word spread quickly.
After the festival, I left with my Russian disciple and translator,
Uttama-sloka das. Dressed in dhotis, we flew from Odessa to Kiev, where we
would catch a plane to Baku, the capital of Azerbaijan, Uttama-sloka's
native country. It is a small Muslim country on the Caspian Sea bordered by
Russia, Iran, Georgia, and Armenia.
At the airport in Kiev I ran into Prabhavisnu Swami, who was on his way to
another region in the CIS. "Are you going into a Muslim country dressed like
that?" he asked.
I had been in a hurry when I left Odessa, and it hadn't occurred to me that
it might be wiser to travel in conventional clothes.
The trip had been organized months in advance, but because of the outdated
communications in Azerbaijan we had not been able to contact the temple or
local devotees for weeks.
"It's like flying into the unknown," I said to Uttama-sloka.
"We don't even know who's picking us up," he said with a half-hearted laugh,
"or where we'll be staying or even if they'll have prasadam ready."
"I love it," I said. "This is sannyasa: completely dependent upon the Lord."
But the love wasn't without apprehension. I felt nervous as I mulled over
Prabhavisnu Swami's comment about my clothes. I recalled the last time I
visited Azerbaijan two years ago, when an official had demanded a
hundred-dollar bribe as I departed.
I turned to Uttama-sloka "Do any tourists ever go to Azerbaijan?" I asked.
He laughed.
I looked around the cabin. I saw only Azerbaijanis, silently staring back at
me.
I turned to Uttama-sloka. "There's a heavy mood in here," I said.
Toward the end of the flight, as I was nervously arranging my documents for
entry, I noticed a large man sitting across the aisle, wearing a black coat
and sporting a big mustache. He suddenly turned to me. "Hare Krsna!" he said
loudly.
I don't know who was more startled, I or the other passengers.
"Are they going to wash your feet when you arrive at the temple?" he asked
in a booming voice. He was speaking Azerbaijani, and Uttama-sloka
translated.
Everyone looked at me, and I wasn't sure how to reply. Either way would
confirm that washing the feet of distinguished guests was part of the
tradition I followed. I doubted any of the passengers had ever heard of such
a thing. Then the same man came to my rescue.
"It's not our Islamic custom," he said, "but nevertheless it is your
tradition's way of honoring guests. And respecting guests is very much part
of Islamic culture."
I took a quick look around and saw a number of people nodding their heads in
agreement.
"How do you know about this?" I said.
He laughed. "I used to live next to your temple in Baku," he said. "Every
time a guru would come I would watch the reception from my window. You are
good people. You love Allah with a passion."
I looked around the cabin again. Everyone was smiling at me. All my
misgivings vanished.
When we landed, the other passengers stepped back to let me take my baggage
out of the overhead compartment. Some motioned that I should go forward and
be the first to leave the plane.
The woman at the immigration desk smiled and asked if I was going to stay at
the Hare Krsna temple. When customs officials asked if I had any goods to
declare, I replied that I didn't. One of them smiled. "But do you have any
Hare Krsna baklava?" he said, referring to a traditional Middle-Eastern
sweet.
"No," I said. "I'm sorry, I don't."
"Make sure you have some on the way out," he said. "We work both directions,
coming and going."
As I walked toward the exit I looked up and saw a sign: "Welcome to the
country where it is a tradition to serve and respect guests."
I chuckled. "Things have certainly improved since my last visit," I thought.
When Uttama-sloka and I left the terminal we were greeted by about 50
devotees. As I walked along, the devotees gave me flowers and garlands,
which I immediately distributed to the many curious Azerbaijanis watching.
Each time I offered someone a flower I would greet him. "Salaam aleikum," I
would say. "Peace be unto you."
"Wa aleikum salaam," they would reply, wishing me the same.
I marveled at being so openly received in a devout Muslim country.
As we drove to the temple, I spoke to my disciple Sahadeva dasa. "Things
have changed," I said.
"Yes and no," he said. "The government wants to join the European Union, so
it is welcoming foreigners and making it easy to come and go. It wants
foreign investment and US dollars for its large oil reserves."
Then he lowered his voice, as if out of habit, "But the government is very
corrupt," he said. "The officials keep most of the money and the people
remain poor. I won't say more."
I looked out at the city. It appeared much as it did when I first came, in
1992.
"What is the population?" I asked.
"Eight million," said Sahadeva, "but 20 million Azerbaijanis live next door
in Iran."
"How is that?" I asked.
"Gasoline costs one US cent a liter in Iran and bread is practically free,"
he said.
I was happy to be back. Baku is one of my favorite places for preaching. I
can never get over the fact that I can preach freely there, in the midst of
the Muslim world. All of my 25 disciples in Azerbaijan were born in Muslim
families, but no one opposed them when they joined the Hare Krsna movement.
The next morning, Sahadeva told me a bit of recent history. "Some years ago
the government cracked down on the 200 non-Muslim religious movements in the
country," he said. "We thought we were finished. But then it officially
registered 20 of them, including us."
"Why did it do that?" I said.
"The government was primarily concerned about the opposing political parties
using religion as a front," he said. "Many of the groups were merely facades
for political opposition. Because we're a purely spiritual movement with no
political intentions, the government had no complaints. But it did place
some stiff restrictions on us. After all, it is a Muslim country. It forbade
us to preach outside Baku, and we are not allowed to hold public programs.
People can only visit our temple. But we got permission to distribute Srila
Prabhupada's books anywhere we want in Baku."
I smiled. "Lord Caitanya's secret weapon," I said.
"People like us and know who we are," he said.
I got first-hand experience of that as we drove through the city. When we
stopped at a red light, two men walked by in front of our car. One man
turned to the other. "You see in that car?" he said. "It's a Hare Krsna
guru."
The next morning I was thinking of visiting the local hospital to follow up
on the seizure. But just as I was about to bring up the idea, I overheard
two devotees joking about the doctors in Azerbaijan. "When a patient goes to
the hospital," said one, "the doctors have to decide whether to treat the
patient or let him live."
I just kept quiet.
My heart goes out to the devotees in Azerbaijan. They preach in an isolated
part of the world and are rarely visited by senior devotees, so I decided to
go ahead with the initiations they had planned, although I knew little about
some of the candidates. I have always relied on temple presidents to
recommend disciples, just as Srila Prabhupada did.
Before the ceremony I asked to meet the candidates. One man in particular
caught my attention, as I had stayed at his house when I was in Azerbaijan
two years ago. He was originally from Iran, but he took up communism and
fled to Azerbaijan when it was a republic in the former Soviet Union. He
started a business in Baku and soon became wealthy.
Later he fell away from communism because he saw it failing. He turned again
to Islam and became a devout Muslim.
Then several years ago he met the devotees and was fascinated by the
philosophy of Bhagavad-gita. He was impressed by the temple programs but
hesitated to fully surrender because of his attachment to wealth. He then
went to India, on a pilgrimage to learn more about Krsna consciousness.
Overwhelmed by the beauty and transcendental atmosphere of Vrindavan, he
decided to become a devotee. I was in Vrindavan at the same time, and one
day he approached me and asked to become an aspiring disciple.
That night he prayed to Sri Sri Radha-Syamasundara at our temple and asked
Them to take away any impediments to his Krsna consciousness. After he
returned to Azerbaijan, his business failed, and he started a smaller one
that brought in less money but gave him more free time.
"How do you use that free time?" I asked. I wanted to see how serious he
was.
"I use it to chant between 32 and 64 rounds a day," he said.
At the initiation ceremony, I mentioned that his life was simpler than when
I first met him. "Allah always gave me what I wanted," he said, "but Krsna
took everything away and left me only the shelter of His lotus feet."
Everyone smiled.
"I can easily bear the burden of a few more disciples like this," I thought.
I handed him his beads and gave him the name Nilacala-candra das.
"Caitanya Mahaprabhu has forbidden, 'Don't make many siksas, many
disciples.' But for preaching work we have to accept many disciples - for
expanding preaching - even if we suffer. That's a fact. The spiritual master
has to take the responsibility for all the sinful activities of his
disciples. Therefore to make many disciples is a risky job unless one is
able to assimilate all the sins."
[Perfect Questions Perfect Answers, Chapter 6]
Indradyumna.swami (AT) pamho (DOT) net
Official website for Diary of a Traveling Preacher
Great souls, souls from Vaikunta, personal servants, I bend one crore times...
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No need for a new thread. This was sent sideways because I was asked to define what I meant by you and still nothing quality to learn from in either of your posts.
The thread had great basis and as a guests contributions to the conversation have been made but still nothing of quality to read since.
It appears that kindness and compassion are definitely present yet the ability to articulate is a little short and there is a specific purpose to even being here.
when seeking if the owls are too busy dodging questions or areas of concern, how does anyone learn anything?
Even though within we can know, applying to a tangible reality could never materialize within this group.
What I will mention is we are here and it is so sad that such a kind sect can be so shallow.
What are in the incense, maybe that is what I am missing!
I sing all day so that isn't it.
Is chastity a norm, if so that is not healthy nor good for your continued existanse on the globe. It would be like saying 'I do not want my cells to replenish my skin.'
Let me offer my hand and I promise never to lie to you as I have only one purpose, please let share to this sect what is true to all.
To india, I must go, to share the gifts for tomorrow!
Hoenstly, that makes no sense to me!!!!
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Simple things can mean so differently for different people in this diverse world... Just like when Krishna says, Sarva dharma parithyajyo maam eka saranaam vraja, He meant it directly and in the simplest way, didnt he? but look at the wayfar explanation of that these days....its up to you to take in whatever way you want , afterall you are the one who is gonna reap for what you have sowed for.....
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the meaning of the word Vaikuntha? I read it somewhere but forgot.
Hare Krsna
Jay Sirla Prabhupada:)
Vai-kunta the place where there is no Kunta i.e misery...
Vaikunta -place without misery
Jaya jaya
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its so sad that people still think that Ramayana and Mahabhartha are mere epics and try to find so called modern proofs for this...
Wake up before its too late...
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here is direct link:
everypart of the world when the Kirthana is sung its in different tunes, I wonder it was differnt in Germany, and in the UK its different and then in the Laguna beach its entirely different, though sounds sweet in all tunes....
Thanks for sharing .........
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and if your child is not shown where to suckle, then you yourself will eventually die.
live by what you can leave to another or die by your selfishness desire to bask in your own knowledge
I cant understand a bit of what u re trying to say? can you be a little more simpler
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The basic tenets of the Sikh religion reflect the time and place circumstances of its development. Essentially, the Sikhs believe that there is only one God, who is the Creator, Sustainer and Destroyer. God cannot take human form. The goal of human life is to break the cycle of birth and death and merge with God. This can be accomplished by following the teachings of the Guru, meditation on the Holy Name and performance of acts of service and charity. The five cardinal vices are; Kam (lust), Krodh (anger), Lobh (greed), Moh (worldly attachment) and Ahankar (pride). Narm Marg emphasizes daily devotion to the remembrance of God. Sikhs reject rituals, which includes fasting, vegetarianism, pilgrimages, yoga, as idol worship. Family life (Grasth) is encouraged, and celibacy or renunciation is not. The Sikh Holy Book (Guru Granth Sahib) is the perpetual Guru, there is no place in Sikhism for a living Guru today. Sikhism rejects all distinctions of caste, creed, race or sex. They stress the equality of women, rejecting female infanticide, sati (wife burning), permitting widow remarriage and rejects purdah (women wearing veils). Work, charity and service (seva) to community are emphasized.
God cannot take human form.
That means krishna's forms are baseless , hmm find another forum lol!!!!
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Whoa! calm down there .
This forum is for discussion of world events,
discussion
n 1: an extended communication (often interactive) dealing with some particular topic; "the book contains an excellent discussion of modal logic"; "his treatment of the race question is badly biased"
2: an exchange of views on some topic; "we had a good discussion"; "we had a word or two about it"
There is no point in responding to cut-and-pastes because they require no thought. Want to post a news story and your feelings about the story, you would get a response then.
Again you post an opinion piece, I could cut and paste several opinion pieces that state the direct opposite, instead I prefer to excersise my mind and discuss the events with my own words
You claim that these Soldiers face rebirth and state it as a fact ? Do you know each one personally ?
Anyway, feel free to have an opinion, it is kind of nice to think for and express yourself
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Suchandra had a point here, whomsoever dies in this age during the war wouldnt go to heaven if not hell!!! The war is not a Dharmayuddha, its filled with lots of dirty tacticts. No kings lol, the politicians are behind the wars, n they never comeinto the battle field.....And when the civilians die in the war, what do ya expect more? a Heaven , a hell ???? Rebirth would be a mercy from krishna:smash:
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Lock the UN and throw the key into the Indian Ocean
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Just wondering what did Srila Prabhupada say about Sikhs. Seems like they reprsent india outside, most of the foriegn world although they are 0.000001% of orginal india:smash: ...No offence but this is the fact...
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No speaky hindi.
Punar charvitha charvinaam Chewing the alredy chewed; its in sanskrith
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We are all aliens even in the land of our present births in this world. How long will we wander here? From one corner of the universe to the other, enjoying and suffering the reaction to that enjoyment over and over. Are we exhausted yet?
We must be exhausted before we can approach Krsna with sincere feeling.
"My Lord, Your Lordship can easily be approached, but only by those who are materially exhausted. One who is on the path of [material] progress, trying to improve himself with respectable parentage, great opulence, high education and bodily beauty, cannot approach You with sincere feeling."-SB 1.8.26
But unfortunately punar charvitha charvinaam.........
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Q: What are the features of a Jivanmukta or a Jnani or a Yogi?
UG : I wish I knew. If a Jivanmukta is sitting right in front of you, you will never know that he is one. You have
no way of knowing whether a man is a Jivanmukta. You have a definition, a behavior pattern. If he fits into that
framework, you call him a Jivanmukta. If there is anyone like that, he will never know that he is a self-realized
man or a Jivanmukta. You have been told by somebody that I am a Jivanmukta.
I may be a phony, a clever chap. I have picked up the art of elocution and all that. I have travelled around the
world. Any actor could do that. How would you know?
He He he is telling about jeevanmukhthas as they are for sale in the saturday sandry market. ....one in millions if not found u re a fool
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And the Eastern culture fostered despots such as Pol Pot*, and situations like China taking over Tibet by military force.
*See DVD "The Killing Fields" for details.
On the other hand, some people from the West really liked Eastern culture from the word go. So there's always been nice people as well sociopaths in every culture and in every society.
For example, do you know how Great Britain got men for the British Navy? Navy "recruiters" went around to all of the pubs, and whoever was passed out drunk, then some sailors would round up all of those people and put them aboard ship.
So you did not exactly have the intelligentsia of society fighting its battles for the British Empire and doing these horrendous acts. They had the choice of jail or serving in the armed forces as the punishment for public intoxication.
And likewise there were some bummer things also. I won't go into details but suffice to say that at least one Irish nun came to India and rescued young girls from a life of prostitution at the Temples. She opened up an orphanage for them and took care of them, so they wouldn't have to be human trafficked in the Temple by their own parents and the pujaris.
See Deepa Mehta's film "Water" for details.
So every society has had bad things. And there have always been some nice people and some not so nice people.
The thing I like about the Hindu Deities most of all is how loving They are. They get their revenge on the horrendous people who came and "shook the pagoda tree" by turning the great grandchildren and grandchildren of that country into Vaisnavas and Shaivites.
They get Their revenge by making the descendants of those people give up
their families and their education and their careers and their native religion to serve those Deities.
They get their revenge by having Hindu souls reincarnate all over the planet setting up Temples everywhere. They get Their revenge by creating a Hindu diaspora so that gorgeous Indian style Temples are built all over the world.
They get Their revenge by having millions of kids all over the world listening to sacred mantras when the second British invasion come via rock and roll, the Beatles, George Harrison, Ravi Shankar, et al. They get their revenge by celebrities doing Yoga and wearing bindi, making it trendy and popular.
That is why I really admire the Hindu Deities. They truly have alot of class. They get Their revenge through love and by drowning the entire world with nectar. To me, now that is truly amazing, such mercy and sweetness.
So let's work together to help each other: the lame man of the East and the blind man of the West. Let's work together to make a better world for everyone.
Very nice, very sweet email. Just like the words from my lord's keshava's mouth......
Keep rocking with hare krishna:)
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Kaliyuga really sucks:(
What's accusative, dative....
in The Sanskrit Forum
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Accusative case: Lord Krishna held the govardhana hill
Nomiantive case: Lord krishna is the supreme personality of godhead
Dative case: He lives in the heart
Fourth case: He lives in the heart of the devotees
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