krishnadasa

Co habitant culture of europe!!

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1234535.cms

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In olden days people dint invent cars and planes

who told that they didnt invent any cars or planes? infact they had most advanced ones, the ones which moved wiht spiritual energy and cud endure for thousand years. Havent u heard about Pushpaka vimana which was gifted to yakshas by brahma which was later forcefully taken by Ravana. Cars they never needed as they cud literally move to any place at their will by their Yogic power

They dint have jeans and tee shirts

I hope u re not making fun of , are u? then i too can make fun of u and your science , but thats not the vedic way he he. Todays Science is just a bunch of crafted theoris which are based on so many axioms and assumptions, this doesnt know anything about spirituality , then wht to speak about dhothis ? In 60s and 70s there were articles advocating Smoking and eating nonveg, but now, its the opposite , might be in future (if Krishna wills´) it wud even come to conclusion that Vedas are the essance and Krishna is ultimate aim......

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Can you please let me know where exactly one can find the info about these three dehas you have mentioned. viz. sUkshma deha, kAraNa deha, and mahAkAran deha.

Thanks in advance

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Belive me if Bharath is taken over by Muslims /pakis, then there will niether be any place for ISKCON nor for ISKCONites(or for that matter any temples will cease to exist), all will be converted forcefully (as it happened before) to follow islam and their prophet. as its righty said in hindi, na rahega baas , na bajegi basuri.

SO the conclusion is that, people in bharath have always liked Krishna, and they will forever. and about the condition of bharath, hey common don be a materilastic fool, spiritual condition is still good here, still people visit temples, still they worship krishna and still all the rites are performed according one's own capacity.

Still people marry with whom they are going to live (unlike US or europe), still although they are not so well to do with their material life, the upliftment for the higher planets (if not to Vaikunta) is assured . But for the eupeans and US people , they will be damned to the lower most hell cos of their materialistic , animilistic life. pityfull he he!

Srila Prabhupada was such a great soul, that he tried to lift u all, but it was not for all i guess (or might be only for those devotees who by their past sins took birth in Mlecha land and Srila Prabhupada came to deliver them)

All glories to Srila Prabhupada

All glories to Srila Madhwa

All glories to all the Vaishnawa bhaktah vrinda

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[Robert Kagan, in his booklet - of Paradise and Power -

indicates that the Christian US that is a great military power guards the Europe, the Christian paradise, after WWII]

Very true and we see thats whats happening!!

[After WWII, while Europe never wants to do a war, it has grown economically due to the protecton of US. While US is the law keeper/fighter, Europe is the saloon keeper who does not want to fight.]

Here I wish to add something more. On the onehand european countries like Germany, frnace, want to get as much work (interms of projects)as possible from US to give their nationals more jobs, and on the otherhand they dont want to support the US war on terror. Somtimes I feel so crazy about these people, as I see they are so crazy about US music, US style of leaving and even sometimes one you can find people wearing US flags and city T shirts, and at the same time if you ask whether they like US then they say . . US ,just don understand whatkinda flickering mentality is this.

[This (US:Europe) relation compares to the Hindu nationalists and the vedic culture in India.]

Guess the answer for the above clarifies that US :EUROPE realtion is purely commercial and business oriented. Believe me still somewhere in the minds of (europeans ) especially Germans there is a bitterness which comes directly from their defeat of WWII.As I live here I can feel that!!!! So the comparison isnt quite fair

[An existance of a nice ganden requires

a guard,

gardener, and

ground

to grow nice flowers and fruits.

Similarly, the existance of the vedic culture requires

the vedic nationalsits,

the vedic gurus, and

the Vedic motherland Bharat.

the guard and the gardner need to be united

in the best interest of keeping the garden for the future generations of the world.]

They did come somany times in my mind. But whenver they came the folllowing questions followed.

1)Did I really (honestly)like the vedic Land bharath?

2) Then why did I come out of it (i.e to europe) ?

3) For all this to happen the first thing I have to do is to go back and let our people know that what they are followig (especially our youth) is nothing but just a .! and am I ready to go back? now don say that u can do it from US, i dont see thats practical.

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I imagine to add unot the number one shud also add might be couple of more millions , as nowadays virtually everywhere in the world poeple use pills and condoms to have no children there by killing the unborn foetus itself. even in India i guess this is quite common.

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The very best thing to do is certainely take the shelter of the Lord's lotus feet. As Srila prabhupada himself says, never even think of doing anyother things to curb your misery, just the lotus of feet of Lord Sri Radha Madhava and this will bring all peace, all peace and only peace.

I pray to my spiritual master and his beloved sri sri Radha Madhava to bring all peace to you

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I appreciate your views and comparison with the one proposed by Einstein. But it was other day I was explaining the difference in fermions and bosenons to someone(in the perspective of Statistical mechanics), I saw the theories and creiterions proposed by these people looked to me as if althought they have done alot of work but only in vain, afterall the reserahc brought only destruction thru atom bombs. what was lacking here was knowledge of soul, which cant be captured by any so called dimensions nor can be treated as a tensor quanitiy to transfer to any coordinate systems :-))

All the theories whatsoever without the knowledge of soul and super soul dwelling in and their influence is just a work towards the darkness, not towards light!!!!

If you see any of the research in olden days in any of the puranas by the rishis even when it was purely material, the element consciousness and God is present everywhere. More than all these present was the renunnciation from all the results , as they knew perfectly that whatsoever they do in the field of material science can NEVER be even compared to Spiritual science , which is just a toolto become happy forever!!!

I too do research in the Uni,but I know my research is just one of those ways for serving my stomoch and nothing more , but I am still happay as my end results I will dedicate to the Spiritual master and his beloved Krishna, and for this there is no doubt!!!

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"When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and reflect about how God created this universe everything else seems so superfluous." ~ Albert Einstein

"The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God which is manifested by actions." ~ Dr. Albert Schweizer

Now do u think you are higher than these souls? if you think so then you shud prove it by bringing theories like what Einstein brought!! lol believ me you are deluded!!!

"Of the sciences Spiritual science i,e the science if soul is the greatest " Srimad bhagavadgita confirms it!!!

Advice: Its not good to take only the theory of relativity from eistein, shud take his views on the religion as well

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thats a nice one , humorous but still true

Lemme first offer my sincere respects to my Spiritual master because of whose grace I could understand what the soul and the super souls are !!!

Let me start directly from the verse of Gita which gives a clear explanation of the same

Whats Soul?

Lord says,

indriyani parany ahur

indriyebhyah param manah

manasas tu para buddhir

yo buddheh paratas tu sah

The working senses are superior to dull matter; mind is higher than the senses; intelligence is still higher than the mind; and he [the soul] is even higher than the intelligence.

Characteristics of soul

The supreme lord says

nainam chindanti sastrani

nainam dahati pavakah

na cainam kledayanty apo

na sosayati marutah

traln:

The soul can never be cut to pieces by any weapon, nor burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind.

acchedyo 'yam adahyo 'yam

akledyo 'sosya eva ca

nityah sarva-gatah sthanur

acalo 'yam sanatanah

This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, all-pervading, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same.

jatasya hi dhruvo mrtyur

dhruvam janma mrtasya ca

tasmad apariharye 'rthe

na tvam socitum arhasi

For one who has taken his birth, death if certain; and for one who is dead, birth is certain. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament.

ascarya-vat pasyati kascid enam

ascarya-vad vadati tathaiva canyah

ascarya-vac cainam anyah srnoti

srutvapy enam veda na caiva kascit

Some look at the soul as amazing, some describe him as amazing, and some hear of him as amazing, while others, even after hearing about him, cannot understand him at all.

dehi nityam avadhyo 'yam

dehe sarvasya bharata

tasmat sarvani bhutani

na tvam socitum arhasi

O descendant of Bharata, he who dwells in the body is eternal and can never be slain. Therefore you need not grieve for any creature.

The above one is very important one as it says clearly that you are actually not this body but a powerful entity called soul. As you have engrossed into this body and because of external illusions you have started thinking that you are a body . But by controlling one'S senses and following on the footsteps of Vaishnawa spiritual masters one can by the mercy of spiritual masters and Govinda know that one is nothing but a powerful entity soul and is a part and the parcel of the supreme lord Govinda.

Hope that help....for more info on the actual identity of onself i.e soul visit http://www.krishna.com/e-books/Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is.pdf

Hope that brings you peace .........

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Let me clarify certain things here on the basis of their meanings

1. Endurance - Is defined as the ability /susceptibilty of an existant fallible being to certain material task. And " for the non existance no endurance means, the concept of endurance is ruled out for the soul which is independent of time. Sceintifically , endurance of a metal eg. decreases as it undergoes cycle of loads with respect to TIME and this TIME is unpresent in the case of soul and thus there is no endurance for the soul.

Moreover when the endurance is not present or infinite (one and the same) the entity becomes permanant - as simple as that isnt it?

Listen dude Lord is not out ther to confuse , inact he is least botherered about that. You can understand the Lord and his activities only by his grace . Utter submission is required, else all look just a bunch of confusing things!!!

[why do you cling to a master??..do you want to sell something??

Why do you say hard work when there is nothing to do??

you cant fool me.]

For any realisation be it be material or spritual, first comes the theory i.e thru books and scriptures and then comes a deep research by the Guidance of Spiritual master to realise the truth as it is, this is a simple truth , there is no fooling ,otherwise one wud simply be lost.

I am not compaigning here for anybody nor do I wish to become ur spiritual master, I just say whats been heard and read from my spiritual masters.

Ya I know the old Owl story is beutiful and thats the reason its there for you to SEE it.

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Might be u shud ask those so called indians in malaysia to come around and join this forum. Hopefully then we wud be able to revive (if its existing) the orignal values of thier original cultures

And then the movie directors, i guess there is no seggregation , all must be burnt in their asses. These are no 1 responsible for the degradation of indian chaste women.

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Read the following lines from one of the articles

“Until Vasco da Gama discovered the sea route to the East in 1497-1499, the "West knew little about India let alone the countries further east. It is not that there was no awareness of India in the West, meaning thereby mainly Europe. Marco Polo had come visiting India and there certainly was a lively trade between north India and central Asia. Indian silk, among other commodities, was justly famous. So were Indian spices. It was India's misfortune that it should have been 'discovered' by a Portuguese sailor with criminal intentions.

India's first major contact began when Vasco da Gama landed with gunboat and priests. The newcomers were not only merchants but also devout Christians. They had the pope's mandate to convert heathens in the lands they conquered. They found that the natives had a flourishing religion of their own. They destroyed their temples

well guess english just followed the footsteps

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Existance is defined in terms of the birth and death of certain material things, and also with respect to things which are perccivable to your mind. But higher than the mind and intelligence is the soul, which is not even percieved by intelligence , and this soul is non existant- meaning beyond birth and death , in otherwords independent of time, unchanging and always the same.

To percive this, that you are an unchanging, immutable and eternal (without birth and death) a very big Sadhana (research and hard work) is required. And also required is a grace from the spiritual master. The soul cant be percieved by reading books and doing anything independently without the help of an authorised spiritual master.

Read Bhagavadgita once and you will get more info about the non existant (without birth and death)directly thru the Supreme Lord

As Lord says, " for the eternal there is no endurance "

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. [for those that think i should take language lessons - thank you for your suggestion. you should be happy to learn that i am taking a semester of punjabi, which started last week. i wanted to take either hindi or sanskrit, but punjabi was the only one offered at my school. also, since you DO speak the language, why dont you just clear it up for me. as i understood it, bhimasena refered to bhima WITH his army or just the army of bhima itslelf.]

i guess thats not for me

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I guesss there wont be anymore requests to translate thier names into devanagiri lipi.

Huu! people dont take the essence! these europeans never left anything fantacized , even sanskrith!!

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Srila prabhupada in one of his lectures gave a very beutiful 1 and 0 loigc for the the Presence of God and spiritual consicousness.

he says

America is advancing very rapidly on the material platform, day by day news companies , new technologies are coming up, every thing is on the rise but materially , everything is just like addition of another Zero to the already existing zero, eg: first you have Car one zero , 0 then comes aeroplane two zeros 00 but the value still remains Zero , then comes the space exploration another zero 000 but still the value is zero.

what needs to be brought with all these is God consciousnes or Krishna consciousness, i.e a just number 1 before the zero and now if evyrtime we increase one zero eg. 10 and then 100 and 10000 and so on eveytime the value become 10 fold , so he says the material advancement with the god consciousness is required then the advance ment will be a nice one and USA can become a world leader and can lead the world very nicely. whats needed is just 1 (Krihsna) infront of all zeros (material advancement)

To add on to this this beutiful philosophy can even be applied to our body.

eg: if we just take one by one our body parts , like hands , legs , head, ears and for that matter till the intelligence all are just addition of one more zeros to the already existing zeros , which dont yieled any value. But now if add an element of spirituality to it i.e Soul the real dweller the whole equation becomes a valuable with a 1 infront of all , and thus become a completely functional body ofcourse with a driver supersoul within who is different of the soul

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Nice one, keep it up

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Abhramam Bandghrahitam

Ajadam Vimalam Sadaa

Anandathirtham Atulam

Bhaje Taapatrayapaham

Oh Undeluded one , Filthless one

you are always unobstructable and slothless.

Oh Anandathirtha oh uncomparable one

I salute you ,oh the remover of all the difficulties

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It waa mentioned mostly about his activities than his bodily structure. Nevertheless one can see ,he was /is well bulit from his photos available . He was also a voracious eater like Bima and have performed many herculean tasks during his tenure .

There is a hill called Kunjaru Giri (hill) in the place where he was appeared , and he use to jump from the top of that hill to the bottom at a stretch whenver his mother used to call him, and also when he was a litttle older in age he wrestled with his young followers and defeated them and showed them how he was still strong at that age. Infact there are so many such activities recorded of this spiritual master.

for more info visit

http://www.splendourindia.org/splen_july2002/cover_story_Madhva.htm

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The way can be shown only to the blind not to the one who is pretending to be!!!!

So no point in persuading such people!!!

let them be in thier darkenss. Inany case ask him(if he is computer literate) to go thru the following site

http://www.gosai.com/chaitanya/saranagati/html/vedic-upanisads/aryan-invasion.html

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common get a username first i will show u what dasa I am!

don be a coward, have an identity !

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Keep up with the work

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I imagine its the matter of orientation of swasthika which makes the energy to flow in right/wrong directions.

The one used by the Nazis was oriented in the anticlockwise direction and so are the abnormal results

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