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  1. SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNACHAITANYÄY NAMAH

    GURU SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREE SHIVASHIVÄYA NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREE BHAKTA VRINDA...

     

     

     

    They are descended from Ramanuja in terms of sampradaya but they regard Swaminarayan as an avatar of Vishnu. That is why they worship his murti in the temple; it is not that different to Gaudiya Vaishnavas worshipping Chaitanya Mahaprabhu as avatar.

     

     

    an avatar is not decided/recognized on anybody's whims and sentimentalism, the avatar should have been clearly mentioned in the Vedic Shästras,

     

    dont talk just anything without having any information, dont be kiddish!

     

    the eternal Devotees and the Gaudiya Vaishnavas dont declare Lord Chaitanya out of thier whim or mere realization or just on account of ShreeChaitanya Charitämrita or Shree Chaitanya Bhägavata,

    dare not compare anyone with Lord Chaitanya!

     

    both the Ägama and the Nigama Shästras clearly and at umpteen places, mention that Lord ShreeChaitanya Mahäprabhujee is the SelfSame, Pürna Purushottma Bhagavän ShreeKrshna and Shreematee Rädhikämätä!

     

    this svaminiaryana guys are foolishly imposing on other foolish people, without any evidence they keep clamouring about their guru as god avatar!

     

    and this is expected in kaliyuga!

     

    i give due respect to svaminaraya, but, dont even dare try to compare them or any one in the whole creation with Lord ShreeVishnu! and/or Lord ShreeShambhu!:mad:

     

    i'm sure even that svaminarayan must not be happy about such bogus proclamation!

     

    again, dont dare compare svaminarayan with Lord Chaitanya, dont be foolish

     

    u better stand accountable to what u write here, this is not a time-pass blogging portal!:mad2:

     

    SHREENITÄIGAURAPREMÄNANDE...SHREEGAURAHARIBOL


  2. SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNACHAITANYÄY NAMAH

    GURU SHREEGAURÄNGA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAKTA VRUDN...

     

     

    Is Golok a black hole? After all, nothing can come out of a black hole too. I have seen this topic so many times that I thought of having some fun.:P

     

    wow, that is sheer rascaldom!

     

    a product of neo-athiestic-scietistic generation!

     

    rebellious researchers!:mad2:

     

    brazen and vulgar fun! must say!

     

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    first of all, we havent fallen in material world, we have come here by our own volition. we could not have come from Goloka because, on who goes there, never returns, and we all are rotting here with lumps of desire multiplying into miillion each seconds, formatting our future births!

     

    ShreeKripälujee teaches that, since time immemorial, we have turned our face from ShreeKrshna and HIS devotion, due to harboring individual and selfish desire of sense-gratification! when that began? well, if we could fathom that, probably we'd not be bound at all!

     

    we should not try to stretch beyond our limits guys!

     

    its realy beyond logic!

     

    such questions are mere indirect atheism only!

     

    believe more than 100% in the Vaishnavas.

     

    Rämasukh däsajee said, to always seek intellectually satisfying reply is slavery of intellectuality!

     

    dont be a slave of mind!

     

    one is better a servant of ShreeKrshna!

     

    because even if Bhagavän Shankara gives someone the instruments with which someone might fathom such answers, such answers would in return raise billion other questions, and ultimately that poor slave of intellectuality would be even more perplexed!

     

    jignäsä is not wrong...but at the same time, one must understand its own capacity to understand otherwise jignäsä becomes pari-kalpanä!

     

    however there is a nice explanation here...

     

    http://www.encyclopediaofauthentichinduism.org/creation_of_the_universe.htm

     

     

    SHREENITÄIGARAPREMÄNANDE...SHREEGAURAHARIBOL!


  3. SHREEEERÄDHÄKRSHNACHAITANYÄY NAMAH

    GURU SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAKTA VRUNDA...

     

     

     

     

    Well, every Swaminarayan temple I've seen has had murtis of Lord Krishna, Radha, Nara-Narayan etc. in them as well as Swaminarayan's murti (it should also be noted that they believe Swaminarayan is God, not just a guru). Where was this temple you visited?

     

    might as well visit, akshardham in gadhinagar,

     

    and check for urself...

     

    and by the way, a guru should be (i) shotriya and (ii) Brahmanishtha!

     

    and i dont think even 7 in 7 billion today, can pass that test or even can take that test!!

     

    as a matter of fact, there can only be ThreeGuru(s)...

     

    ShreeKrshna, ShreeNityänandajee and ShreeShambu!

     

    all others are merely repeating Their divine Teachings...

     

    and well, u might be aware of the sorry state of svaminarayan sect today, i mean those scandals and what not...

     

    actually, the scientific and devotion oriendted teachings are time-proof!

     

    Just like the Teachings of the Vedas, anyone who sincerely follows has to succeed, even in the last lag of Kaliyuga.

     

    but non-scintific (unVedic) followers have to fall apart!

     

     

    so far as having guru deity in temple is concerned, certainly, that is on! its absolutely Vedic! but having deities of only guru is yavanish! its self imposition or concoction or mere sentimentalism! problem with svami sect is that they dont have even a small deities of ShreeKrshna, ShreeSadäshiva or even Hanumäjee Mahäräj, (actually diety of guru should always be smaller than that of ShreeKrshna!)

     

     

    SHREENITÄIGAURAPREMÄNANDE...SHREENITÄIGAURAHARIBOL


  4. SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNACHAITANYÄY NAMAH

    SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMH

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAKTA VRUNDA...

     

     

    I have recently come across an excellent scripture called yoga vashista, I think it is a dialogue between vashista and rama, its a huge scripture but I was wondering if anyone has read it , it is very thought provoking though

     

     

    yes, with HIS grace i also picked up and read Yoga Väshishtha, but it is not recommended for the current age!

     

    >there is no reliable translation available, i, actually had read divya jeevan sangh publication, but to my shock it was horrible, i finished it though, but only Lord Chaitanya saved me! it tends to leave its reader in a 2 dimentional world.

     

    >there are hardly any gurus (Jagadguru ShreeKripälujee) who can actually understand and make others understand it.

     

    >it requires pure and sharp intellect

     

    >cannot grant u even säyujya mukti...

     

    yes, it is the final teachings and can take its sincere reader to the Brahma Loka, but certainly not beyond...

     

    if ya are addicted to intellectual reading, yoga Väshishta is the final say!

    no doubt!

     

    but it is very very esoteric!

     

    and certainly, after u are done, u will not believe in Personal Bhagavän!

     

    SHREENITÄIGAURAPREMÄNANDE...SHREEGAURAHARIBOL


  5. SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNACHAITANYÄY NAMAH

    SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAKTA VRUNDA...

     

    thanks a lot, avinas!

     

    i accepted that kinda reply,

     

     

    asking somebody a question means that I have rebellious, doubting thomas mind

     

    asking question is not athiesm but when u have access to the Asnwers, it certainly is!

     

     

     

     

    According to you, being interested in Science means hunger, lust, desire to be famous and it also means limited perception. Go and learn get common sense.

     

    i dont consider science as wrong, the adjectives used are for so called scientist, again u got this wrong!

     

     

     

    .If God wishes, he can create the world in whatever way he likes - including big bang.

    Even Darwinian theory is not really atheism. Atheism means "not believing in God." Darwinian theory may be contradictory to your religious belief, but it is not contradictory to theism in general.

    where ur logic of ShreeKrshna creating the world the way HE likes is acceptable...,

     

    what u might not be aware of is ShreeKrshna Himself has revealed the actual process of Creation, in Shreemad Bhägavatam, and that is through Brahmäjee! not some vagrant cacophonic derivatives or sick formulae!

     

     

    Atheism means "not believing in God.".

    probably, u havnt gotten the definition of thiesm right,

    if u at all sincerely believe in ShreeKrshna, why do u shirk to accept HIS teachings?

    but as put, this is not athiesm, i think it is foolishness also!

     

     

    darwinian theory may be contradictory to your religious belief, but it is not contradictory to theism in general

    hieght of obsession! u guys are obsessed with anything imported, even foolishness!

     

    darvinian theory is also against the Vedas! and illogical...theory, clearly bypasses the Brahmäjee's agency of copulation-linked mortal world, it says, us humans are modified apes!

     

    but it might take some time for u to get this, i was actually more sinful than u, but with HIS grace, i accepted HIS Pristing teachings, and is saved!

     

     

     

    belief in modern Science is limited perception for you but blind belief in Vedas means that you have a very broad perspective. hypocrisy

    blind beliefs in Vedas is not possible, it is so very logical, that even blind believers get through to the Light!

     

    u'd accept 'but' as bat and 'put' as poot, is that blind belief?

    obsessed with imported things!

     

    might as well watch matrix series (not for devotees, though), may have a hint as to what i mean by limited perception of not science but that of humans...

     

     

     

    if being theist means becoming like you i.e. losing one's way of thinking, becoming abusive and hypocrite, then I hate such kind of theism.

    well, u might abuse me of being a hypocrite, abusive, having lost way of thinking...its clear to be seen that who is abusive! and i certainly dont mind abusing the athiests...or rather agnostics

     

    once more, we can fight out on place u decide, pls. dont spread ur godless virus on this sober, and thiestic discussion portal!

     

    in the end, i'm sorry, for coming across u, u better carry on with ur ideas, as ur signature goes...get prepared for the worse

     

    but i definitely warn u of not spreading such vagrant theories and beliefs, there upmteen other portals for such concoccted theories,

     

    i think it is only hypocricy to claim to be thiest and not believe in ShreeKrshnaa's teachings and search for other theories.

     

    not here, pls.

     

    SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNACHAITANYÄY NAMAH


  6. SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNACHAITANYÄY NAMAH

    SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNADA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAKTA VRUNDA...

     

     

    akshar, i see that your post is rubbish,

    Sun moon, all are demi gods as per hinduism. They Are Not Gods!.

     

    aksar seems to be from svaminarayan sect, these guys consider their guru (user foto) to be a god!:mad:

     

    SHREENITÄIGAURAPREMÄNANDE...SHREEGAURAHARIBOL!


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    Why do you think that Big Bang expansion is impossible? Big Bang expansion is said to have taken place approx 14 billion years ago. Universe is expanding at present. Then, why is it so difficult to believe that it was expanding 14 billion years ago?

     

     

    i must say avinas, u r at a wrong place, may b u should, loitering around nasa corridors, your rebellious and doubting thomas mind wont let u settle in a peaceful Temple!

     

    u seem to be a victim of the of neo-athiesm generation. who in the name of science, are only spreading athiesm...whether it is darvinian theory or this bogus big bang stuff.

     

    i mean, u can simply mortage ur mind to some few so called scientist, who are inflicted with hunger, lust, desire to be famous etc., who have limited perception, who are fraught with athiesm and rebel towards ShreeKrshna, but u'd feel damned ashamed of having to accept the Pristine Vedic Teachings, which are incomparably higher than this figmentive propositions of foolish observationists!

     

    sad indeed!

     

    anyway u may read this article online....

     

    http://www.internationalreporter.com/news/read.php?id=973

     

    i certainly dont endorse this article, but to a fool, one has to talk in a foolish language! may be u can see some ray of hope...

     

    but a piece of advise, pls dont bother us with ur bogus beliefs, u might as well hang ur self among ur like minded athiests!:mad2:

     

     

    SHREENITÄIGAURAPREMÄNADE...SHREEGAURAHARIBOL


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    SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNACHAITANYÄY NAMAH

    SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENIYTÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREE ADVAITA ÄCHÄRYA

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAKTA VRUNDA....

     

     

     

    Often times read that big bang was the beginning of time and therefore we should not ask what happened before big bang' date=' because there was no 'before'. According to two physicists (from Cambridge and Princeton universities), the current model of the universe is flawed[/quote']

     

     

    as a matter of fact, there has actually been no big bang at all!

     

    while tryin'g to gauge age of (Four Headed Brahmäjee's) universe, foolish scientists miss one important logic presented by them only...age of black holes...

     

    on one hand they say...age of blackholes cannot be determined (which is also false!), on the other hand, they proclaim to have found age of that universe, which has infinite such black holes...

     

    this two arguments are opposite to eachother!

     

    more on this issue and other issue regarding time and others can be read from book The True History and Religion of India here:

     

    http://www.encyclopediaofauthentichinduism.org/articles/48_the_exact_calculations.htm

     

    http://www.encyclopediaofauthentichinduism.org/articles/47_creation_of.htm

     

     

    http://www.encyclopediaofauthentichinduism.org/articles/49_actual_age.htm

     

    http://www.encyclopediaofauthentichinduism.org/21_intriguing_questions.htm

     

    actually, its only futile, not only for us, even for Lord Brahmäjee, to try to understand something which is beyond sense perception...its nothing smarter than act of a foolish child, trying to touch moon and in that pursuit, trying to climb to the roof top...this is the sum and substance of a scientist's phsyche and their foolish endeavors, wasting HIS time and energy! scientists are a little more rebellious and demoniac, nevertheless, though!

     

     

     

    SHREENITÄIGAURAPREMÄNANDE....SHREENITÄIGAURAHARIBOL

     


  9. SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAKTA VRUNDA....

     

     

    Some stupids are thinking that the satyasai baba is a kalki avtar. They are foolish and this baba is a fraud.

     

    they are not stupid, they are demons, rascals...

     

    there is also one bogus, athiest in jain (ir)religion, who, in name of universal cheatings (teachings) is actually passing off (bogus) jain theory, its name is dada bagavan! in name of a common philosophy, this dude is only passing-off jainism:mad: and a lotta foolish and so called Krshna Bhaktas are attending its athiestic classes

     

    kali-yuga is spreading its wings!

     

    its pertinent to note that jainism is a bogus, concocted and rebellious theory, aimed at further antagonizing wicked souls against Bhagavän ShreeKrshna and Bhakti märga!:mad2:

     

    another one is svaminarayan sect...bogus...

     

    due to sins of my past lives, i once went inside their temple, what i found was that there only big statues of their theory found ers made were portrayed, there was not a single diety of LordShreeKrshna or LordSadäShiva! :crazy:

     

    this is a bogus sect, far away from Vedic Teachings!

     

    its very disgusting to know this...

     

    there must be 100s such bogus so called gurus, for bogus disciples!

     

     

     

    ShreeNitäiGauraPremänande...ShreeNitäiGauraHaribol

     


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    SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNACHAITANYÄY NAMAH

    SHREE CHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREE NITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREE SHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAKTA VRUNDA...

     

     

    any impediment that we might think, are for us conditioned souls

     

    ShreeKrshna is

    kartum-akartum-anyathäkartum...

    HE can do, undo, not do, or otherwise the things in the way HE likes...which are beyond anybody's possible imagination...

    and HE is svaräta...

     

     

    but, obviously, the envious nondevotees cant understand this...

     

     

     

    ShreeNitäiGaura Premänande...ShreeGauraHaribol

     


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    SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNACHAITANYÄY NAMAH

    SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREE BHAKTA VRUNDA...

     

     

     

    bing a yogi is not a trivial thing. Its certainly hard to explain to others who are not.

     

     

    yogees are from just another cast of athiesm, they're non-devotees, as they dont accept the innocent service to the Supreme and take to rebellious way to find eight psychic amusemnts to please gullible and greedy crowd.

     

    and these eight so called siddhis are achieved by that selfish yogee only by the Supremed Grace of the Unassuming Näräyana!

     

    whether it is sampragnyät or asampragnyät samädhi, or tureeya or tureeyäteeta, these bogus mental status is gotten by the Grace of that Supreme Näräyana only, but the ingratiate and thankless yogee, engrossed in revelling in those eight siddhis, never realized that Causeless Kripä!

     

    as Revealed by ShreeChaitanya Mahäprabhujee, it might be better, from a nondevotee's point of view to be a yogee, but to a shuddha Vaishnava, anything else than pure devotional service is worse than hellish planets, even if it is awarded one of five liberations. Moreover, the Bhaktas, simply kick the impersonal liberation and refrain from other four Vaikuntha muktis, as they take away from them, the opportunity to Serve Their Beloved Master, ShreeKRSHNA.

     

    Rämasukha däsajee has said, that a yogee, who, shoots out its präna from the Brahma-randra and gives up its body, is certainly committing a sätvic ätma-hatyä!

     

     

     

    yogi.jpg

     

     

     

    Mahäprabhujee only knows what sai baba was, but certainly, NONE...NONE except SHREEKRSHNA is or could be BHAGAVÄN.

     

     

     

    SHREENITÄIIGAURAPREMÄNANDE...SHREEGAURAHARIBOL

     


  12. SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNACHAITANYÄY NAMAH

    SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNADA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREERÄDHESHYÄM BHAKTA VRUNDA...

     

     

    So why Srila Prabhupada sometimes talk about Lord Shiva and Lord Brahma as demigods?

     

    what about Lord Brahma, is a demigod or not?

     

    whrever there is any hint from Shrila Prabhupadajee, it surely referes to the Rudra, one of partial aspects of LordShambhu.

     

    its Rudra who was born from the middle of the eyebrows of Brahmäjee (Shreemad Bhägavatam 3.12.7); Lord SadäShiva is Primeval, Eternal and beginningless and endless...

     

    by the way, the grantha, ShreeChaitanya Charita Mahäkävya, in a .doc format will be uploaded in a weeks time.

     

    SHREENITÄIIGAURA PREMÄNANDE...ShreeGauraHARIBOL


  13. SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNACHAITANYÄY NAMAH

    SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAGAVADA BHAKTA VRUNDA...

     

    one of friends (who is generally very reliable on these issues), has informed me that in one book The True History and Religion of India, by HD sVÄMEE Prakäshänanda Sarasvatee, it has been proved that Jesus Christ is Indra deva, although i myself havent read it, i can suggest u visit its website

     

    http://www.encyclopediaofauthentichinduism.org/articles/18_comparisons_of.htm

     

    http://www.thetruehistoryandthereligionofindia.org/

     

    JAY JAY SHREEGAURANITÄII


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    SHREERÄDHÄKÅÑËACHAITANYÄY NAMAH

     

     

     

    SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

     

     

     

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

     

     

     

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

     

     

     

    JAY JAY SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

     

     

     

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAGAVAD BHAKTA VRUNDA...

     

     

    Many people are offended by the word 'demigod.' But surely, except Vishnu, no one can be Supreme. There cannot be 'two' supreme entities. So Shiva is NOT supreme, even though the word demigod may not be palatable to some. So a better choice would be 'devata.' Anyway, here is the episode which clearly shows that even Shiva is under Narayana's control.<?xml:namespace prefix = v ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" /><v:shapetype id=_x0000_t75 stroked="f" filled="f" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" o:preferrelative="t" o:spt="75" coordsize="21600,21600"> <v:stroke joinstyle="miter"></v:stroke><v:formulas><v:f eqn="if lineDrawn pixelLineWidth 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 1 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum 0 0 @1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @2 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @0 0 1"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @6 1 2"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelWidth"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @8 21600 0"></v:f><v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelHeight"></v:f><v:f eqn="sum @10 21600 0"></v:f></v:formulas><v:path o:connecttype="rect" gradientshapeok="t" o:extrusionok="f"></v:path><o:lock aspectratio="t" v:ext="edit"></o:lock></v:shapetype><v:shape id=_x0000_i1025 style="WIDTH: 24pt; HEIGHT: 24pt" alt="" type="#_x0000_t75"></v:shape>

    Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 8.12.27tām anvagacchad bhagavān

    bhavaḥ pramuṣitendriyaḥ

    kāmasya ca vaśaḿ nītaḥ

    kareṇum iva yūthapaḥ

    SYNONYMS

    tām — Her; anvagacchat — followed; bhagavān — Lord Śiva; bhavaḥ — known as Bhava; pramuṣita-indriyaḥ — whose senses were agitated; kāmasya — of lusty desires; ca — and; vaśam — victimized; nītaḥ — having become; kareṇuma female elephant; iva — just as; yūthapaḥa male elephant.

    TRANSLATION

    His senses being agitated, Lord Śiva, victimized by lusty desires, began to follow Her, just as a lusty elephant follows a she-elephant.

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    All this doesn't mean Shiva isn't worthy of worship. On the contrary, one must worship Shiva to bless us with a pure mind, a mind that can focus on Vishnu with perfect attention. But to worship him as supreme is certainly an offense, at least sheer stupidity, according to Vishnu Himself. Here's the relevant verse:

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    Bhagavad-gītā 7.23

    antavat tu phalaḿ teṣāḿ

    tad bhavaty alpa-medhasām

    devān deva-yajo yānti

    mad-bhaktā yānti mām api

    SYNONYMS

    anta-vat — perishable; tu — but; phalam — fruit; teṣām — their; tat — that; bhavati — becomes; alpa-medhasām — of those of small intelligence; devānto the demigods; deva-yajaḥ — the worshipers of the demigods; yāntigo; mat — My; bhaktāḥ — devotees; yāntigo; māmto Me; api — also.

    TRANSLATION

    Men of small intelligence worship the demigods, and their fruits are limited and temporary. Those who worship the demigods go to the planets of the demigods, but My devotees ultimately reach My supreme planet.

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    >Lord SadäShiva is a SHREEKRSHNASvarüpa, not a demigod…

    try to understand with simple, human logic...that the demigods have a limited life span and with the cosmic annihilation they also are submerged in the Mahodar of Lord ShreeMahäVishnujee!

    Now, i hope, you must be knowing that LordShiva is the ONE, under Whose supervision, the cosmic annihilation is carried out!

    now, even a child can understand that to carry out the function, one has to last through out the function until its finished, if a child dies before finishing its painting, then the painting is not finished, similarly, LordShiva's suprevision carries out the annihilation of infinite number of material plantets. so, how can a demigod carry out annihilation inwhich it also has to die as a part of its procedure?

    this proves that Bhagavän SadäShiva is not a demigod (at least!).

    Moreover, as Bhagvän ShreeKrshna, reveals in Shreemad Bhagavad Geetäjee that,

     

     

     

     

    Bhagavad-gītā 7.23

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    tad bhavaty alpa-medhasām

     

     

     

     

    devān deva-yajo yānti

     

     

     

     

     

     

    SYNONYMS

     

     

     

     

    anta-vat — perishable; tu — but; phalam — fruit; teṣām — their; tat — that; bhavati — becomes; alpa-medhasām — of those of small intelligence; devānto the demigods; deva-yajaḥ — the worshipers of the demigods; yāntigo; mat — My; bhaktāḥ — devotees; yāntigo; māmto Me; api — also.

     

     

     

    TRANSLATION

     

    Men of small intelligence worship the demigods, and their fruits are limited and temporary. Those who worship the demigods go to the planets of the demigods, but My devotees ultimately reach My supreme planet.

    The shloka clearly states ‘their fruits are limited’, but Lord ShreeSadäShiva bestows a qualified soul with the KrshnaPrema, what about that?

    Moreover, Bhagavän ShreeChaitanya Mahäprabhu HIMSELF, worships LORD SHIVA (of course, to teach us fallen souls), by composing a sweet Shiväshtakam, appeared in ShreeMuräri Guptajee’s ShreeChaitanya Charita Mahäkävya (3.8). Now, Why would Mr. Mahä-Vadänyäya, teach us to do this?

    Now, can anyone name a single demigod viz. Indra deva, Väyu deva, Agni-deva and others has ever given anyone Devotion towards Bhagavä ShreeKRSHNA's LotusFeet?

    Lord Shankar Becomes a Shiväni Gopee…and it also is the Protector of ShreeVrindävana Dhäma and ShreeDhäma Navadveep and Shree Varsänä Dhäma also!

    ShreeVrishshabänujee actually, Just like Lord Janaka is a great Shaiva! You have any info about that, dont post offensive threads or u’ll soon be under the hellish realm!

    Lord ShreSadäShiva has the Power to bestow upon any qualified soul the Pure Devotion!

    HE is the one Who Invited LordShreeChaitanya to the hellish world of earth planet!

    if ya don’t know, dont commit blunders or the nämäparpädha will ruin ya.

    HE is KRSHNASvarüpa, and has accepted the poison to save the Universe!

    >ShreeMohini Rüpa, is divine as it is ShreeNäräyana’s Rüpa: So Its no wonder that the ONE, who effortlessly conquered käma by Killing Kämadeva, lost all HIS control at the very sight of the Divine Form of Shreematee Mohini Devee jee out HIS shuddha Prema for Her (Lord ShreeHari).

    One may refer to ShreeRäma Charita Mänasa (Tulaseedäsajee) ShreeBäla Kända 83.89, where is it has been stated, how käma deva tried to vainly test ShreeSadäShiva but eventually got burnt by Lord SadäShiva’s Grace.

    Then, how can u try to accuse LordSadäShiva of having been agitated at the sight of ShreeMohini Rüpa,

    because u thought ShreeMohini Rüpa is transcendental so, its rightly said in Shreemad Bhägavatam 8.12.27 the ShreeSadäShiva’s senses were agitated due to seeing the Mohini Rüpa, but foolish souls under three modes of material nature, cannot understand that ShreeMohini Devee is Divine Rüpa of ShreeNäräyana Prabhujee. So its no wonder, that Lord Shiva, who killed and burned the käma-deva, the demigod in chage or mundane sex affairs, to ashes, as that käma deva tried to test Lord SadäShiva, Looses all HIS control for HER (Bhagavän ShreeNÄRÄYANA)

    that u are surely bewildered by the illusory energy as u r blind do see ShreeHara as ShreeHari...

    the fallacy: a lotta so called vaishnavas and a lotta so called shaivas suffer from a miopic disease that ShreHari and ShreeHara are different and impose upon them and others that their Lord is the supreme. but such foolish and bigotic appraoch makes them ever trail behind their flight of fantacy.

    The Truth: ShreeHari and ShreeHara are the Same SupremeBhagavän. But ShreeKrshna is the Ädi Purusha, and to supervise various principle functions HE dons different Rüpas. Lord Shiva is one of such Svarüpa. He is Eternal, Omnipotent, and Bhagavän (better bother to read Shiva Puräna, with open mind!) Moreover, the sweet Leeläs that ShreeKRSHNA has revelaed are not exhibited by any of HIS other Svarüpas viz.ShreeRäma, ShreeSadäShiva...

    Some of Infinite Evidential Testimony: actually their infinite Evidences in the Shästras that Hari is Hara, but stating the two, that ignorant me has come across, are:

    >Padma Puräna: swarga khanda, 87.19-21, here Lord ShreeKrshna HIMSELF reveals that whosoever tries to differentiate between HIM and LordShiva is surely chasing the darkest reagion of hell.

    >Garga Samhitä, 39.23-24: the same is meant here also by the Supreme BhagavänShreeKRSHNA.

    >ShreeRäma charita mänasa: here Lord ShreeRäma, time and again, states that those who approach ME without worshipping ShreeHARA are not approaching ME sincerely! and the same is stated by ShreeHara, (to offensive Shaivas) that those who approach ME without worshipping SHREEHARI are not approaching ME sincerely!

    >there are infinite others that u cant expect a fool like me to know.

    speaking for Gaudiya Vaishnavism...

    one may refere to ShreeJeeva Gosvämeejee's ShreeBhävänuväda teekä on Brahma Samhitä ch 5.45, I don’t know if ya are qualified to see this teekä, I’m certainly not, but still it is posted here to save fallen souls from falling further by gliding under such great misconceptions…

     

    refer to two attachemnts about the Very important and significant shlola 45 of the 5th chapter of ShreeBrahma Samhitä

    > from SHREELA JEEVA GOSVÄMEE Pabhupädajee's Teekä (ShreeBhävänuväda)

    and Shreela Bhaktisiddhänta Sarasvateejee's Teekä

     

    Thus,Lord Shiva is not a separate Godhead, HE is Godhead but not Seperate or Independant of ShreeKRHSN, which further expostulates that They are ONE!

    So u r suggested not cultivate further nämäparäda by believing that LordShiva is merely a demigod or a Mahäyogee, or Vaishnava!

    In The Neela Rudra Upanishad, Lord ShreeNäräyan is addressed in the following way:

    O Lord, for Your Devotees You Become the Supreme Lord Shankar and For your personal Intimate Beings, You are ShreeNäräyana.

    Anyway, pls. forgive me for my impudence, but don’t harbor such offensive thoughts in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City><st1:place>ur</st1:place></st1:City> mind!

    SHREENITÄIIGAURAHARIBOL

    Çré Brahma Saàhitä (Çréla Jéva Gosväméjé's öékä, Bhävänuväda) 5.45.pdf

    ÇRÉ BRAHM SAMHITÄ 5.45 (Créla Bhaktisiddhänta Sarasvatéjé).pdf


  15. SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNÄBHYÄM NAMAH

    SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAKTA VRUNDA...

     

    not only in isKcon but also in some other Vaishnava sampradäyas, there are a lotta bogus souls, who without having any indepthy theoretical or practical information keep spreading around some bogus concocted figments.

     

    better beware of that...

     

    if one sincerely worshipw LordShiva, HE will bestow upon you the Shuddha Premäbhakti for Bhagavän ShreeKRSHNA...as had happened with Shreela Bhakti Vinoda Thäkurajee, worshipping LordShiva in ShreeDhäm Navadveep, Bhakti Vinodajee got a Darshan of Bhagavän ShreeShiva, who put HIS LotusFeet on his head and bestowed to him the Shuddha Bhakti...

     

    i'd suggest u, not to hobnob with bogus, so-called vaishnavas who differentiate between SHREEHARI & SHREEHARA.

     

    dunno if SHREEMAHÄPRABHUJEE donned one but definitely HE composed a Shiväshtaka...it appears in the 8th chapter of 3rd sarga of ShreeChaitanya Charita Mahäkävya, hope u wouldhave read it in other post.

     

    SHREENITÄIGAURA PREMÄNANADE...SHREENITÄIIGAURAHARIBOL


  16. SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNÄBHYÄM NAMAH

    SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAKTA VRUNDA...

     

     

    when Vedanta means conclusion to Vedas, the interpretation of Vedas, on these lines I feel the buddhist philosophy is just a form of Vedanta.

     

    who misguided u by telling such a nonsense...

     

    Vedanta is not an interpretation of the Vedas, it is the conclusion and the goal of the Vedic practice (Veda+anta). ShreeChaitanya Mahäprabhujee HIMSELF revealed that Shreemad Bhägavatam is the natural commentary on the Vedänta, Vedänta is otherwise pretty esoteric and enigmatically programmed. If not properly decoded it might lead to the present apathy of so many foolish advaita vedäntist, who are on thier way to self-annihilation!

     

    And, the best commentary that one can get over something is through its Author. Now, ShreeVeda Vyäsajee (the compiler of the Vedas, and an avatär of its Author ShreeMahäVishnujee) Himself states in the Shreemad Bhägavatam that Shreemad Bhägavatam is the natural commentary on the Vedänta.

     

    Buddhism is not Vedänta. after Bhagavän returned to HIS Divine abode, the kaliyuga started showing up and due to that the people in general started becoming corrupt and dualistic, coining out their own interpretations of the Prestine and Divine Vedas, and started killing animals in the name of a yagna. Actually, animal killing is there in the yägnic performance but the animal that is sacrificed is not be eaten up but it is to be sacrificed so that it gets a higher mode of life in its next body. But the corrupt and socalled brahmnas, out of their whim and for animal eating, started vehemently carrying out fake yagnas. Lord Buddha, appeared to stop these swindling brahmanas, and said that Ahimsä Paramo dharmah, i.e. the biggest duty of the mankind is to be nonviolent. But the current fake buddhists misinterpreted His teachings and coined out their own interpretations and made a big mistake of neglecting the Vedas. And as we can see, they're so very hell bent upon killing their own mind and intellegence, only to merge into the zero!

     

    jainism, on the other hand, is altogether a different perversion. its not an offshoot of Vedic Religion, its an out and out concocted theory or rather one that is anti-Vedas. jains are averse to the Supreme Näräyan! this is not my vehement belief, this is what so called jain sadhus suffer from and often even try to accuse ShreeKRSHNA of having waged a war against the kauravas. they dont believe in däna, shräddha, yagna, varnäshrama and other many Vedic Injunctions!

     

    In the Padma Puräna there is a reference to this jainism.

    A good and pious king, Vena was carrying out his duty properly and trying to maintain a good scene in its state, until, a jain vegabond, came to him and taught him the athiestic theory, asking him not to do däna, yagna, and shrädhha and other so many rituals enshrined in the Vedas. being stupified by that monks false theory, the king gave up its duties and acted like selfish athiest, the Saptarishis then told them that such religions would pop up only in the kaliyuga and that king Vena should not be mislead by such bogus vegabonds!

     

    jains assert that the size of the soul keeps changing according to its body, so suppose a jeeva is in an elephant's body and if in its next it gets an ant's body, the souls will undergo a change in its size to fit that body. this concocted so called religion suffers from a plethora of other misconception, so its not fair to consider it an offshoot of Hinduism.

     

    Vedänta logically proves that the Para Tattva is a Person, HE is ShreeKrshna and the souls are eternal servants of that Supreme Person.

     

    SHREENITÄIIGAURAPREMÄNANDE...SHREENITÄIIGAURAHARIBOL


  17. SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNACHAITANYÄY NAMAH

    SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAKTA VRUNDA...

     

    i tried to post the whole text in sca-Goudy fonts in the post but it wouldn't be visible so now i'm attaching the 8th chapter of the 3rd Sarga of SHREECHAINTAYA CHARITA MAHÄKÄVYA by ShreeMuräri Gupta.

     

    SHREENITÄIGAURAPREMÄNANDE...SHREEGAURAHARIBOL

    SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNACHAITANYÄY NAMAH, ÇréChaitanya Charita Mahäkävya (by ShreelaMuräri Guptajee) 3.8.doc


  18. SHREERÄDHÄKRSHANCHAITANYÄY NAMAH

    GURU SHREECHAINTAYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAKTA VRUNDA....

     

     

    Haribol Godseed!

    Yes, you got my point.

    Bhagavan's bhakta is considered even higher than Bhagavan. In this case, Lord Shiva is higher than the Supreme Lord. It is definitely true!

     

     

    GauraHaribol, Indulekhädasiji,

    Bhagavän's bhakta is considered higher tha Bhagavän but it is not so! we all know, that ShreeKrshna, ShreemateeRädhäräneejee only is the ONE who elevates the fallen-souls to the higher stages of Shuddha Bhakti.

     

    moreover, one point that i missed in earlier post was that, while you pointed out Bhagavän ShreeShiva's statement that ShreelPrahläda Mahäräja is a better devotee than HIM (ShreeBrihad Bhägavatämritam 3.75), you definitely missed properly reading 4.20, further in ShreemadBhrihad Bhägavatämrita...

     

    the Shloka is

     

     

     

    Text 20

     

     

     

     

    hanumad-ädi-vat tasya

    käpi seva kritästi na

    param vighnäkule citte

    smaraëam kriyate mayä

     

     

    hanumat-ShreeHanumänjee Mahäräja; ädi-beginning with; vat-like; tasya-of Him; ka api-something; sevä-service; krita-performed; asti-is; na-not; param-greatly; vighna-with troubles; äkule-troubled; citte-in the heart; smaranam-remembrance; kriyate-is done; mayä-by me.

     

     

    I never rendered direct service to the Lord as ShreeHanumänajee Mahäräjajee and many others, did. I simply meditated on the Lord when my heart was troubled.

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    now, this is what ShreelPrahlädajee Mahäräja has to say...

     

     

    and you might be aware of the Truth that Hanumänajee Mahäräja is the twelfth Rudra, i.e. incarnation of Bhagavän ShreeShiva!

     

    you should've mentioned this Truth your thread/post!

     

    So, in that case, the Truth is that Bhagavän Shiva is not Higher than Bhagavän ShreeKrshna, HE is a ShreeKrshnasvarüpa!

     

    anyway, once more, seeking apologies if any reader is genuinly hurt! But its a Vedic Declaration that where there is nindä of HariHara, one should quit that place immidiately or give up body! And, considering ShreeSadäShiva a demigod or a yogi or mere a Vaishnava is indeed very offensive for a True Vaishnava.

     

    SHREENITÄIIGAURAHARIBOL


  19. SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNACHAITANYÄY NAMAH

    SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAKTA VRUNDA...

     

     

    Who are we to judge these great personalities. They are maha bhagavatas in their own specific rasa. But there are gradations of rasa also, although each rasa is filled with deep love.

     

    thats where the emphasis is...

     

    one should not enter with material intellect in the spiritual realm, or downfall is more than just guaranteed!

     

    all the rasas may be filled with deep love but the degree of depth changes and from the bottom in the däsya bhäva, it reaches the peak at the mädhurya bhäva, as clearly instructed ShreeMahäprabhujee through HIS ferretting dialogues with (between Bhagavän ShreeChaitanya Mahäprabhujee and) ShreelRämänanda Räyajee.

     

    forgive me for my impudence, though, but these topics are too sensitive for us fallens to craft our intellect over, its for the likes and heights of ShreeSanätanajee.

     

    SHREENITÄIIGAURAPREMÄNANDE...SHREEGAURAHARIBOL


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    SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNACHAITANYÄY NAMAH

    SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAKTA VRUNDA...

     

     

     

     

    Whatever I wrote came straight from the Brihad Bhagavatamrita, written by Srila Sanatan Goswami. Therefore I suggest you read that book and then report back here.

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    probably you are hinting at 3.75 from ShreeBrihad Bhägavatämritam...

     

     

    the shloka is

     

     

     

     

    tvat-tätato mad-garudäditash ca

    shriyo 'pi kärunya-vishesha-pätram

    prahläda eva prathito jagatyäm

    Krishnasya bhakto nitaräm priyash ca

     

     

     

     

     

    tvat-of you; tätatah-than the father; mat-than me; garuda-aditah-than the other devotees headed by Garuda; shriyah-than the Goddess of fortune; api-even; karunya-of mercy; vishesha-the specific; patram-the object; Prahlädah-Prahläda; eva-certainly; prathitah-is celebrated; jagatyäm-in the universe; Krishnasya-of Lord SHREEKRSHNA; bhaktah-the devotee; nitaräm-very; priyah-dear; ca-and

     

     

     

     

    "Prahläda, whose fame as a great devotee is spread throughout the entire universe, is more dear to Lord ShreeKrshna than your father, than me, than Garuda and all the other devotees, and even than the goddess of fortune herself."

     

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    but even ShreeKRSHNA Bhagavän has time and again put HIS Shuddha Bhakta Higher than HIM, stating that HE is indebted to them etc., but its only HIS unfathomable HUMILITY! and nothing else!:crying2:

     

    Moreoever, its evident and clear that Prahläda Mahäräja is a disciple of Shreela Näradajee, who is a devotee of both Bhagavän Shiva and ShreeVishnu!:)

     

    while you pointed out Bhagavän ShreeShiva's statement that ShreelPrahläda Mahäräja is a better devotee than HIM (ShreeBrihad Bhägavatämritam 3.75), you definitely missed properly reading 4.20, further in ShreemadBhrihad Bhägavatämrita...

     

    the Shloka is

     

     

     

    hanumad-ädi-vat tasya

    käpi seva kritästi na

    param vighnäkule citte

    smaraëam kriyate mayä

     

     

    hanumat-ShreeHanumänjee Mahäräja; ädi-beginning with; vat-like; tasya-of Him; ka api-something; sevä-service; krita-performed; asti-is; na-not; param-greatly; vighna-with troubles; äkule-troubled; citte-in the heart; smaranam-remembrance; kriyate-is done; mayä-by me.

     

     

    I never rendered direct service to the Lord as ShreeHanumänajee Mahäräjajee and many others, did. I simply meditated on the Lord when my heart was troubled.

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    now, this is what ShreelPrahlädajee Mahäräja has to say...

     

     

    and you might be aware of the Truth that Hanumänajee Mahäräja is the twelfth Rudra, i.e. incarnation of Bhagavän ShreeShiva!

     

    you should've mentioned this Truth your thread/post!

     

    So, in that case, the Truth is that Bhagavän Shiva is not Higher than Bhagavän ShreeKrshna, HE is a ShreeKrshnasvarüpa!

     

    anyway, once more, seeking apologies if any reader is genuinly hurt! But its a Vedic Declaration that where there is nindä of HariHara, one should quit that place immidiately or give up body! And, considering ShreeSadäShiva a demigod or a yogi or mere a Vaishnava is indeed very offensive for a True Vaishnava.

     

    SHREENITÄIIGAURAHARIBOL

     

    i think its more of a core-feeling for a sädhaka then a topic of intellectual discussion.

     

    and in anycase, Shreela Sanätana Gosvämeejee may do this in HIS Rasika mood, us fallen jeevas, should not dare do this!

     

     

     

    SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNÄBHYÄM NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITÄIIGAURAHARIBOL

     


  21. SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNACHAITANYÄY NAMAH

    GURU SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAKTA VRUNDA...

     

     

    The benefits of this astakam is that you will attain the abode of Lord Shiva at the end of your life. If this is your goal then there is no problem. But if you wish to go somewhere else (abodes of Krishna, Narayana, Rama etc.), then I think you should chant prayers to Gopishwara Mahadeva instead.

     

    probably däseejee, you havent read the Shivästakam properly, i'm copying the whole text here for a better reference...and the Shivästaka has been found in the authentic Shästra of ShreeChaitanya Charita Mahäkävya from ShreeMuräri Guptajee.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Çré Çiväñöakam

     

    (Composed by the Supreme Lord Çré Gauräìga Mahäprabhu Himself)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    namo namaste tri-daçeçvaräya bhütädi näthäya mådäya nityam

    gaìgä-taraìgotthita-bäla-candra-cüòäya gauré-nayanotsaväya (i)

     

     

     

     

     

    namo nama - repeated obeisances; te - to you; tri-daça-éñvaräya - to the lord of the 30 principal demigods; bhüta - of all beings; ädi-näthäya - unto the Primeval Lord; mådäya - to the gracious one ; nityam - perpetually; gaìgä-taraìga - the waves of the Gaìgä; utthita - arises; bäla-candra - by the new moon; cüdäya - crested; gauri - for the goddess Gauré (the fairest of women); nayana-utsavaya - to the festival for the eyes.

     

     

     

     

     

    "I perpetually offer obeisances unto You, the Lord of the thirty primal devas, Who are the Original Father of created beings, Whose character is Gracious, upon Whose Head, which is crested by the sickle moon, the Gaìgäjé springs, and Who are a festival for the eyes of Çrématé Gaurédevé.

     

     

     

    sutapta cämékara-candra-néla-padma-pravälämbuda-känti-vastraiù

     

    sa nåtya-raìgeñöa-vara-pradäya kaivalya-näthäya våña-dhvajäya (ii)

     

    su-tapta - molten; cämikära - gold; candra - moon; néla-padma - blue lotus; praväla - budding; ambuda - cloud; känti - luster; vastraiù - with garments; sa - He; nåtya-raìga - of pleasure-dancing; ita - desired; vara-pradäya - to You, Who bestow the boon; kaivalya-näthäya - to the Lord of the monists; våña-dhvajäya - to He, Whose flag bears a bull.

     

     

     

     

     

    "I offer My obeisances to You, Who resemble a moon of molten gold, Who are dressed in garments colored like a group of budding blue lotuses or lustrous rainclouds, Who bestow the most desirable boon to Your devotees by Your delightful dancing, Who offer shelter to those who seek to attain kaivalya mokña (to become one with the transcendental effulgence of Godhead), and Whose flag bears the image of the bull.

     

     

     

    sudhaàçu-süryägni-vilocanena tamo-bhide te jagataù çiväya

     

    sahasra-çubhräàçu-sahasra-raçmi-sahasra-saïjit-tvara-tejase'stu (iii)

     

    sudhäàçu - nectar-rayed (moon); sürya - sun; agni - fire; vilocanena - by Your Eyes; tamo-bhide - the dissipater of darkness; te - to You; jagataù - of the cosmos; çiväya - for auspiciousness; sahasra - a thousand; çubhräàçu - white-rayed (moon) sahasra-raçmi - the thousand-rayed sun; sahasra - a thousand; saïjit - completely defeated; tvara - swift; tejase - to You, Whose power; astu - let it be.

     

     

     

     

     

    "I offer My obeisances to You, Who dispel darkness with Your three eyes - the moon, the sun, and fire - and thus cause auspiciousness for all the jévätmäs (living entities of the universe), and Whose potency easily defeats thousands of moons and suns.

     

     

     

    nägeça-ratnojjvala-vigrahäya çärdüla-carmämçuka-divya-tejase

     

    sahasra-patropari saàsthitäya varäìgadä-mukta-bhuja-dvayäya (iv)

     

    näga-éça - the king of snakes; ratna - gems; ujjvala - luminous; vigrahäya - to You Whose Form; çärdüla-carma - skins of tigers; amçuka - garments; divya-tejase - to you of divine potency; sahasra-patra-upari - upon a thousand-petalled lotus; saàsthitäya - to You Who stand; vara-aìgada - with beautiful bangles; amukta - dressed; bhuja-dvayäya - to you whose two arms are such.

     

     

     

     

     

    "I offer My obeisances to You, Whose Form is brilliantly illuminated by the jewels of Ananta-deva, the king of snakes, Who possess divine potencies and are clothed in a tiger-skin, Who stands in the midst of a thousand-petalled lotus, and Whose two Arms are adorned by lustrous bangles.

     

     

     

    su-nüpurä-räìjita-päda-padma kñarat-sudhä-bhåtya-sukha-pradäya

     

    vicitra-ratnaugha-vibhüñitäya premänam evädya harau videhi (v)

     

    su-nüpura - fine anklebells; aräìjita - reddish; päda-padma - lotus feet; kñarat - flowing; sudhä - nectar; båhtya - to your servants; sukha-pradäya - to You Who give joy; vicitra - wonderful; ratna-ogha - a multitude of jewels; vibhuçitäya - to You Who are adorned; premänam - love; eva - certainly; ädya - today; harau - for Hari; vidhehi - You should endow.

     

     

     

     

     

    "I offer My obeisances to You, Who bestow happiness to your servitors as You pour upon them the liquid nectar flowing from Your reddish lotus Feet, upon Which charming ankle bells ring. Obeisances unto You, Who are adorned by an abundance of gems. Please endow Me today with pure love for Çré Hari.

     

     

     

    ÇréRäma Govinda Mukunda Çaure, Çré-KÅÑNA Näräyaëa Väsudeva

     

    ity ädi-namämåta-päna-matta- bhåìgädhi-päyäkhila-dukha-hantre (vi)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Çré-Räma - O splendid reservoir of pleasure!; Govinda - O awarder of delight to the cows, the senses and the land!; Mukunda - O giver of liberation!; Çaure - O hero!; Çré-Kåñëa - O all-attractive!; näräyaëa - O shelter of mankind!; väsudeva - O all-pervading Lord, son of Vasudeva!; iti - thus; ädi - headed by; namämåa - nectarean names; päna - drinking; matta - intoxicated; bhånga - bee; adhipaya - unto the monarch; akhila - all; duhkha-hantre - unto the slayer of grief.

     

     

    "`O Çré Räma! O Çré Govinda! O Çré Mukunda! O Çré Çauri! O Çré KÅÑËA! O ÇréNäräyäëa! O Vasudeva!' I offer my obeisances unto you, Çré Siva, Who are the monarch ruling over all the bee-like devotees who are mad to drink the nectar of these and other innumerable names of ÇréHari, and Who thus destroys all grief.

     

     

     

    çré näradädyaiù satataà, sugopya-jijïäsitä-yäçu vara-pradäya

     

    tebhyo harer bhakti-sukha-pradäya, çiväya sarva-gurave namo namaù (vii)

     

    Çré-Närada-ädyaiù - by those headed by Çréla Närada Muni; satatam - always; su-gopya - very confidential; jijïäsitäya - to You Who are inquired of; äçu - easily; vara-pradäya - to You Who give boons; tebhya - to them; Hare - of Lord ÇréHari; bhakti-sukha-pradäya - to You Eho give the joy of devotional service; Çiväya - to the auspicious; sarva-gurave - to the guru of all; namaù - obeisances.

     

     

     

     

     

    "I offer my respectful obeisances to You, O Çré Siva, Who are forever inquired of confidentially by Çréla Närada and other great sages, Who, very easily bestow boons on them, Who bestow the änanda of ÇréHari-bhakti to those who seek boons of You, Who thereby create auspiciousness and are thus the Guru of everyone.

     

     

     

    çré gauré-netrosava-maìgaläya, tat-präëa-näthäya rasa-pradäya

     

    sadä samutkaëöha-govinda-lélä-gäna-praviëäya, namo'stu tubhyam (viii)

     

    Çré-Gauré-netra - for the eyes of Çré Gauré; utsava-maìgaläya - to You Who are an auspicious festival; tat-präëa-näthäya - to the lord of Çrématé Gaurédevé's life breath; rasa-pradäya - to the giver of rasa; sadä - always; samutkanöha - with great longing; Govinda-Lélä - of the pastimes of Lord ÇréGovinda; gäna-praviëäya - to the expert singer; nama - obeisances; astu - let there be; tubhyam - to You.

     

     

     

     

     

    "I offer My obeisances to You, who are a festival of auspiciousness for the eyes of Çrématé Gaurédevé, Who are the Lord of Her life-energy, Who bestow rasa and are expert in forever singing songs with eagerness of the pastimes of ÇréGovinda."

     

     

     

    etat çivasyäñöakam adbhutaà mahat, çåëvan hari-prema labheta çéghram

     

     

    jïänam ca vijïänam apürva-vaibhavaà, yo bhäva-pürëaù paramaà samädaram (ix)

     

    etat – this; çivasyäñöakam – this eight-fold prayers, glorifying Lord Çaìkar; adbhutaà - - unprecedented; mahat – greatness; çåëvan – to listen with rapt attention; Hari-prema - Unmotivated Devotional Service towards Lord ÇréHari; labheta – be benefited with; çéghram - instantly; jïänam - devotional knowledge (eternal); ca – and; vijïänam – science of devotion; apürva-vaibhavam – unprecedented opulence (for higher service); yo bhäva-pürëah – with heart filled with love; paramaà samädaram- with highest respect.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    “A jéva filled with, who hears with rapt attention this wonderful eight-fold prayer to Lord Çiva, can quickly achieve viçuddha niñkäm prema for ÇréKåñëa (ÇréHari-prema) as well as transcendental knowledge, the realization of that divine knowledge, and unprecedented powers."

     

     

     

     

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    ÇRÉNITÄÉGAURA PREMÄNADE…ÇRÉNITÄÉGAURAHARIBOL

     

     

     

     

     

    ShreeMahäprabhujee is clearly teaching through this Shiväshtaka that, Bhagavän ShreeShiva is the bestower of Shuddha Krshnaprema, alll throughout the Stuti and especially in the final stanza, HE teaches us to, beg to Lord Shiva to kindly bestow the Shuddha Prema for SHREEKRSHNA (HIM). So, the aim is to Serve and get Vishuddha premäbhakti towards the LotusFeet of ShreeKrushna! where is the question here to go to the Shivaloka?

     

    SHREENITÄIIGAURAPREMÄNANDE...SHREEGAURAHARIBOL


  22. SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNACHAITANYÄY NAMAH

    SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAKTA VRUNDA...

     

     

     

    What about Sri Sivastakam? is bonafide?

     

    no...no...i'm misleading u guys...huh!:confused:

     

    This Shivästaka is found in ShreeChaitanya Charita Mahäkävya, composed by ShreeMuräri Gupta!

     

    SHREENITÄIIGAURA PREMÄNANDE...SHREEGAURAHARIBOL


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    SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNÄBHYÄM NAMAH

    SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREESHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAKTA VRUNDA...

     

     

    No one, even Lord Ananta Deva knows what is the REAL and ACTUAL meaning of the word SHREEBHAGAVÄN...so how can a stoolworm like me dare to state anything?

    But with the Grace of ShreeNitäiiShambhu even a lame can walk and a dumb can speak...

     

     

    firstly, the word god has, in now way, any association with the actual meaning of the word BHAGAVÄN....it merely hints at some individual, who is relatively higher than its contemporaryt batch of jeevas.

     

    whereas the word BHAGAVÄN has specific connotations. each word in the Sanskrit language connotes a specific and technical allegiance...

     

    the Sanksrit word BHAGAVÄN, is made up of two words viz. BHAGA+VÄN

     

    >Bhaga is the ONE, Who has six oppulences simultaneously viz.

    (1) eternal, infinite an unlimited knowledge (including intellegence and divine knowledge not just material),

    (2) eternal, infinite and unlimited beauty (both bodily and characterwise),

    (3) eternlal, infinite and unlimited fame (pure fame, unlike fame of current celebrities who pose nacked and ruin other souls' human birth)

    (4) eternal, infinite and unlimited aishwarya (wealth,)

    (5) eternal, infinite and unlimited power (including strength, tolerance, stamina etc.)

    (6) renunciation

     

    here ShreeKrshna actually has Infinte Attributes and Opulences but these are only broad aspects that can be interpreted by the human intellect.

     

    here, the common phrase eternal, infinited and unlimited is of prime importance, in the present age also there is hell lotta souls who apparently have, at least, one of the six opulences, but firstly they are not real, because those who consider them of having such opulence are foolish (like the celebrity fan club) and secondly even if one foolishly considers 'em real, they're not eternal and they are them to awarded through demigods for pious acts.

     

    the word VÄN means, the One, Who possesses such opulences.

     

    now, none of the material things are eternal, infinite or unlimited or even pure, for that matter...so Bhagavän is Beyond the Nature!

     

    So, one should first properly understand the real meaning of Bhagavän and then, by the HIS Grace, one can easily discriminate between the fake streetgods (like the current fag), the demigods, the saints etc.

     

    WHO, Then, is that Bhagavän:

     

    All the infinite Ruchäs of the Vedas continuously hint at the Truth that only ShreeNäräyan is ShreeBhagavän and that ShreeNäräyan reveals only one of the Infinite Aspects of Bhagvän ShreeKRSHNA.(ShreeBrahma Samhitä)

     

     

     

    SHREENITÄIIGAURAPREMÄNANDE...SHREEGAURAHARIBOL

     


  24. SHREERÄDHÄKRSHNACHAITANYÄY NAMAH

    SHREECHAITANYA MAHÄPRABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREENITYÄNANDA PREABHAVE NAMAH

    SHREE SHIVASHIVÄY NAMAH

    JAY JAY SHREEBHAGAVAD BHKATA VRNDA...

     

    good attempt, nice test but one unsolicited advise...pls. take care of the addreses to the Supreme, i.e. as you've mentioned in q19. Chaitanya used to call his servant

    Vaishnavas would write ShreeChaitnaya used to call HIS servants

     

    similarly in q22 Nityananda had his grand bathing at the house of

    Vaishnavas would write LordShreeNityänanda has HIS grand bathing at the house of...

     

    or not hanumanaje, but Hanumanjee Mahäräja

     

    these are not just formalities...

     

    pls. do take care, but a good attempt, anyway.

     

    SHREENITÄIGAURAHARIBOL

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