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  1. Is there evidence of celluar DNA in AyurVeda? If so where and post it!
  2. Mapping of Human Genome & the possible danger of Karmic Manipulations . Swami Atmananda Kudos to scientists for mapping the genome: ……… The recent mapping of Human Genome by a group of scientists was a landmark achievement for the entire mankind. While lot needs to be done before this knowledge is available to help root out the genetic disorders of man, yet it is indeed an achievement worth elation. In future it will become possible to predict & even help root out the various diseases of man with the least bit of botheration. However, like with any potent knowledge there is a possibility of its possible misuse. Such can be the profound impact of this knowledge that all sort of fears have already started being aired. It might certainly lead to various ethical and social problems. There is also the dangerous possibility of cloning of a superior human race. The problem of misuse of any potent knowledge : ……… The possibility of misuse of any potent knowledge or power is always there, and therefore the debate on the possible misuse of this knowledge of human genome has also rightly begun. Whether it is the nuclear power in the hands of a rogue state, or a gun in the hands of school going children, the powers that be are rightly concerned about averting their possible misuse. The problem is not the power as such, but the power in wrong hands. Spiritual masters the world over are basically concerned about this deep-rooted & devastating problem of ‘misuse of any power’, and this is traceable to the problem of ego-centricity. Ego-centricity is not negated by a healthy body or even good karmas, but only by directly realising the infinite & transcendental truth of this world - as our very Self. Can we work to help bring about a mind which has love, magnanimity & compassion for one & all ? If this is achieved then you can rest assured that no knowledge will ever be misused, and without this the danger of misuse will always be there. Can Karmic data too be manipulated : ……… Some people even feared whether the karmic data of man too may now be manipulated. These fears are baseless. People hereafter will certainly be facing a challenge which has not been dreamt of earlier, yet no such possible manipulations rein the karmic freedom of man, and thus he or she will remain as independent & creative as ever ‘to find a way out’ from these new situations too. That is the freedom & power of karma. The word 'karma' is used in two different ways. One, as an effect of earlier acts, and two, as a ‘potential to act without any conditionings’. While the word karma is secondarily used to indicate the effect of our earlier acts, the primary real meaning of this word is the ‘potential to act without any conditionings’. None of these can be effected by any physical manipulations. The difference between animal yonis & the human yoni is only in the existence if this freedom & capacity. Animals act in a conditioned & programmed way, while the level of awareness of human beings facilitates them to exist at a level where their responses are not conditioned by their situations or past. This alone is the essence of karma. To be human is to be free to act : ……… To accept the possibility of human being conditioned by anything whatsoever in such a way so as to lose our freedom to act is deny the very human-ness & thus the very potential to do karma. To act as per conditionings is no 'action', but a mere 'reaction'. Ability to respond in an unconditioned way is not a genetic trait but something much more fundamental, so I have no basic fears. We intrinsically know this too, that is why insipte of the unfavourable genetics of parents the children can carve out a niche for themself. That is why education is so very important. Thoughts do have physical repercussions but mere physical fitness is no gaurantee for a thoughtful magnanimous mind. Genes do not store Karmas : ……… The sciptures talk about the place of storage of karmic info too, and that place is incidentally not this physical body, but our sukshma sharira or the invisible ‘subtle’ body. The Jiva comes to a mother's womb with its own bag & baggage, this alone explains existence of abnormally different inclinations of child & parents. So no physical manipulation can really alter the 'inclinations' (karma) of any jiva. Yes, the health of people can certainly be altered, and so far so good. Moreover these genes themself are a later manifestation in the beautiful process of creation, and they are basically meant to facilitate bringing about of the ideal conditions for the karmas of a jiva to express & exhaust. Physical features and some such gross things are provided by the parents to the child, but the Jiva comes in the womb with its own karmas. That alone is the reason why a sudra couple too can possibly have a child with the inclinations of a brahmin or even kshatriya. If what was provided by parents alone drew the line within which this jiva lives & operates then such things could never have happened. Genes are because of me and not vice versa : ……… The fundamental difference between materialism & spirituality is that while the former believes that ‘matter’ is 'the important’ thing and it alone controls our lives & its joys, the latter brings about a paradigm shift in our priorities & perceptions by passing the buck of importance to an all-pervasive, non-material, conscious principle - the subjective essence of all. When the scriptures talk about this entire cosmos coming out of a spiritual essence - which is your true self, they in fact are saying that you are the creators of these very genes. Genes maybe chemically made up of DNA molecules etc – but are in this context are clubbed under one generic term – the ‘matter’. They are comparable to seeds. They are the first perceptible manifestations in this beautiful process of the grossification of the great yet highly subtle creative self-revealing, blissful existence which is continously unfolding itself – in a highly intelligent & orderly way. This so called ‘spirit’ or more appropriately - the Consciousness, is not a product of any chemistry, but is that becuse of which the basic elements can be what they are. This consciousness is called as Brahman by the Upanishads, it from this alone everything has come, and into this alone everything goes back. That alone is the truth, rest is an illusion, a mere continuum of time & space. ……… If someone can be called a ‘human’, then the fears about karmic manipulations are irrelevent, and if the manipulations are to such a degree that the fellow cannot be called a human, then also the question becomes irrelevent. So as long as we are humans so long we have the potential to act in an unconditiond way - provided we exercise our freedom. Here alone is the important role of right shiksha & samskaras. Real education too is not any new conditioning, but implies bringing about ‘awareness’ of facts of life to such a degree so as to decondition us from past and realise our freedom to choose & act. This is possible in an ambiance where the goals are invoking things like love etc in the hearts of one & all. Self-knowledge alone prevents misuse of any Power: ……… I sincerely pray that one day the resourceful nations will give as much importance to the subjective knowledge as much as they give to the objective one. So while I am happy at this achievement of mapping of the human genome I do not yet see any luxury of any complacency to ignore the spiritual subjective knowledge. The most important knowledge is the one which can help invoke deep-rooted love in the heart of one & all. This alone can gaurantee total absence of misuse of any kind of power what-so-ever. Unfortunately this knowledge is yet to become a priority of the policy makers the world over. That day when this becomes a priority will be a day of real celebration for all those people who sincerely wish for the well being of one & all.
  3. Are we sure that taleban is behind this? [This message has been edited by Caitanyachandra (edited 09-23-2001).]
  4. What is the eye-witness testimony to O.B.L's existence and whereabouts...? For all we know, it appears that he an actor in a stage in our tv's! GGroovy.
  5. What is the eye-witness testimony to O.B.L's existence and whereabouts...? For all we know, it appears that he an actor in a stage in our tv's! GGroovy.
  6. 1) www.itihaas.com 2) www.itihas.com/org [This message has been edited by Caitanyachandra (edited 09-22-2001).]
  7. HEIGHT FORMULA: STRAWBERRIES IN MILK WITH ORANGES ON THE SIDE. Banana afteRWARDS. [This message has been edited by Caitanyachandra (edited 10-17-2001).]
  8. /SOMEONE POST A NEW EXCERCISE PROGRAMS./ [bOLD]Excercise Program[/bOLD] [This message has been edited by Caitanyachandra (edited 10-17-2001).]
  9. HE he he. [This message has been edited by Caitanyachandra (edited 10-17-2001).]
  10. PANI ASANA TURNS TO FUNNY ASANA IF YOU DO IT FOR THREE WEEKS> [This message has been edited by Caitanyachandra (edited 10-17-2001).]
  11. Perhaps 10% of Silicon Valley Billionaires were BORN IN INDIA. In true American spirit they are now opening first-class educational institutions in India so that disadvantaged young Indians can follow their success. 10% / 25% doesn't make a diff. We Hindoos invented everythingin this world and everything outside this world and everything inside your mind / brain. Personally, i don't believe there are any disadvanteaged indians in india. As for first-class educational institutions in America. There are none except MIT. Hopefully americans will catchup to Indians in technology, literature, but nvr philosophy. Tahdah.
  12. I have nvr seen such a racist post in my life. Anyway, there is no white hegemony except in Western Hemisphere. Capitalism originated from Italy. I don't have time to waste with your junk.
  13. Finish my wonderful aphorism: "Democracy needs liberty while capitalism needs freedom." The supply-demand-transfer of money converts the two however,...
  14. "Thus the growth of capitalism is synonymous with democratic governments, bringing the many material advantages desired by all." Note: The secondery scientifyic achievments come when there is a small group of scientists part of society working on new developments. Not like now where there are people pumped out of educational slaughterhouse VILLES. As for the recent terroristic bombings on New York. It's clearly United States fault. They keep pumping Saudi's oil for them. We should of moved on long tiems ago and built alternative energy sources and put them in our villages... Too bad. NEW WORLD ORDER UNDER GOD NOW.
  15. 'Thus the growth of capitalism is synonymous with democratic governments' Wow. How? 'Is it time to talk of a "white man's burden" again?' Yes in west world. But Hindu mans burden afterwards for now what it looks like in 'Occident. Democracy needs liberty while capitalism needs freedom. Tudah.
  16. keyword 'point' Howeever, eliminating the material side will increase the euphoric consciousness flarez of meditational devotionz.
  17. "Prostrating before God is also way of full surrender to God. By doing that we shed our ego . Krishna is caught by Yashoda (to tie Him ) only when she throws away the stick in her hand. Here God indicates unless we shed off our feelings of I & mine(dandam) it will not possible for us to reach Him. So it is the best asana." You fooz. The point is not to eliminate the material but to transcend it by doing devotinal service. NOte: Everything in Krsna's service is Hare Krsna hare krsna krsna krsna hare hare hrama rama hare rama rama rama hare hare.......
  18. Gc and dasanudas must be cooperating today. Because dandavats is definitely hard for speakers.
  19. How does an asana agree? I thought it is humans that agree. Since that is a sign of intellectual ability. A Asana does not have life. However humans and lower species do. Such as you. Personally, I would like to hear from Jijaji why he answered Niddhiasana to Gc's most difficult asana questION.
  20. nididhyasana ------------ How does this asana co-relate to the learning-curve,,cognitionative curves...? Simply by contemplating how does one achieve liberation? I thought one needs vidya in order to attain status of liberation... The 3 pramans according to JGoswami are vedic shabda, (h)anuman, &&& perception (determinate/indeterminate). Also comparison is accepted by Mayavadis'...
  21. http://www.philosophy.ru/library/asiatica/indica/authors/chemistry.html
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