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Theist, you obviously enjoy that bhakti salve for your eyes that you just can't purchase with money. Vedas say the same thing… you don't jump over the spiritual master. Guest(s)… next… ? (So many challenges, but no understanding.) Then go off and follow Jesus. Why are you here with us sinners? To convert? Or derail? Do you jump over the "teacher" when acquiring knowledge from any field? "Guru" simply denotes a spiritual teacher… and you can call 'em Jesus or Prabhupada… or Buddha… the song remains the same. What changes is the time and circumstance of the performance. They all agree that material life is harmful for the conditioned soul. What is the merit of your Christian process contrasted with KC? (Silence? …yawn.) Everything is contained withing the Aboslute. You are a part of that - even if you can't ascertain the cause. You post a challenge. But can you justify your own religion/philosophy from all angles? Or you just trying to exploit religion? Are you being objective? Are you gonna answer? (Pssst: All we can do is TRY AGAIN!)

Here's a great idea for the Thirld World Order… I'm a patriot after all… You can set up some little radar dish or something and direct it at the house of the dissodent. (It could easily be hidden). Just send signals that will give everyone in the household cancer… and have it all approve under a "fighting terrorism" bill. Now there may be collateral damage. (Neighborhoods and all that.) But… This is an actually an American supreme court ruling: "We're (the government) is not responsible for protecting you." .......................... "Goin' Back" In a foreign land There were creatures at play Running hand in hand Leading nowhere to stay Driven to the mountains high They were sunken in the cities deep Livin' in my sleep. I feel like goin' back Back where there's nowhere to stay When fire fills the sky I'll still remember that day These rocks I'm climbin' down Have already left the ground Careening through space. I used to build these buildings I used to walk next to you Their shadows tore us apart And now we do what we do Driven to the mountains high Sunken in the cities deep Livin' in our sleep. I feel like goin' back Back where there's nowhere to stay – Neil Young

(My own account… Believe ME!) There's a posting now on another abortion board that says an essay on abortion I've posted before is at a couple different locations and they even give the address. (They're slandering me for uh plagerism and being proud and so many things). And all I did was post the essay… Still haven't responded to anyone regarding my post. I never went there. I felt it was argument and slander and political positioning and subversion and so many other things that I didnt respond. But what does that tell you about the lengths some people will go? Oh yeah. I forgot to mention. I never go anywhere but here and that one other board (rarely) and I didn't post those essays anywhere else as accussed. Ask me… I'll give the links. Tell me what's there. ......................................... Here is a post from that board called "Trial Watching"… current event I believe… Here’s a gem from the partial birth abortion trial in San Francisco. Our hero is abortionist Maureen Paul, director of the San Francisco Planned Parenthood. “At one point, Paul refused to acknowledge that, by performing an abortion, she is ending the life of an unborn child. "I know what my purpose is," Paul explained. "That my purpose in bringing ... the fetal trunk out past the navel is to empty the uterus in the safest way possible. Yet [the ban] implies that I have this other purpose, which is to kill the fetus." ............................ There's so much knowledge out there. "Why we know more than we've ever known in history." (Everyone gullibly swallows that!)

I'm looking around on the net for a pic - without much luck. … I was shocked by the responce as well, many individuals were still 'not sure' This is a sad state of affairs when people don't realize their empitness. John Lennon phrased it nowhere man - without a point of view. Their head is being filled with garbage from our leaders which always turns out to be little more than cheap programming. People are being turned into unfeeling machines. Everyone is justifying their acts in the name of logic and truth, but that justification usually stops the higher it goes… at which point it becomes illogical and selfish.

Does the film lie? Well, not yet I think. What age fetus? It's hard for me to imagine someone could abort their baby on tv (or knowing it would be on tv)? Whatever the public's reaction, it will be reflective of their empathy and compassion… which is not very promising seeing how it has come to this. But then again, it may be just the thing they need. But such things can be used many ways. Governments have been known to show violent films to people in an attempt to condition them to insensitivity. A similar strategy might be to condition people to offenses by bragging about my offenses - as if I'm being humble. My religion is to talk about my faults and post quotes that relate to them. I'm a humble, religious man. That everyone can see. Yes, people see it. But play the game too long? Then, the hypocrisy begins to show. That might be missed by someone insincere. But we can always change the rules as we play. We control the Matrix! "Lets see what the responce is.." Yes, what do we know and understand. And how do we act on it. I would expect the "pro choice" and "right to lifers" to argue over different spins on the same evidence. I mean there's nothing but arguing everywhere.

The leaders want everyone on the "same page." I mean that's the basis of a society right. But they aren't on the "same page" with the public. Therefore, it's really not the same page.

Some of you devotees are being played here by the same powers that tell you who your enemies are. They think themselves players… isn't the move in Iraq just bold as hell? They know there's very little knowledge out there to stop them. But then, they don't know enough. Everyone is allowed to fake everyone else out - until they die. But karma can come sooner than that. We don't have the time or patience for this… "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." So we shorten it to this… "Do unto others."

Would they still want this stuff if they had to pay for it… ? … with THEIR money and THEIR lives (by facing these things on the battlefield)? Where does the quest for artificial power and might stop? When you have one bomb that blows up the world? The universe? Will it be used? Advantages are compromised and traded just like any business deal. It's getting increasingly dangerous. I think just about everyone in the world feels threatened. It's really getting insane. Especially, when you consider how fast it can happen and that we seem to be rushing toward it. But then that's always the case or the result with hypocritic !#$% who think they can live at the expense of everyone else. Did we really learn that history lesson?

Is that what we argue about? Or do we walk thru this world all alone?

So I believe Babhru is posting this… SB 1.1.2 Completely rejecting all religious activities which are materially motivated, this Bhagavata Purana propounds the highest truth, which is understandable by those devotees who are fully pure in heart. The highest truth is reality distinguished from illusion for the welfare of all. Such truth uproots the threefold miseries. This beautiful Bhagavatam, compiled by the great sage Vyasadeva [in his maturity], is sufficient in itself for God realization. What is the need of any other scripture? As soon as one attentively and submissively hears the message of Bhagavatam, by this culture of knowledge the Supreme Lord is established within his heart. I was gonna challenge you. I can't do it! (Somehow I still don't believe this reference covers all possibilities.) "MY" senses could… uh… get it wrong [sad]. LOOK at YOU, LOOK AT ME! Are "WE" seeing reality? … (Damn tangent!) I'm sorry. What did you say?

Copy and Paste, surely the sign of a professional "diplomat". (He doesn't even write his own speeches.) He's expert at choosing people that talk better than him. My, the luxuries of the privileged. Money buys the best brains and EVERYTHING! People who are crying so much with their post{s) here… are they authorities? Do they hear others crying? Do ya feel comfortable and satisfied or are you feeling exploited? Comfortably numb? Is that the result of knowledge? Knowledge is power? They never answer the big questions or stand accountable… And We're paying for it! Where does responsibility lie? (Silence?) But a politician… "Vote for me" … [Ego: I'm a lean, clean, machine! Whatever. I've got what it takes. Otherwise, how could I be here… leader among men? By deception? Never! I'm qualified in every way… BUT my competitor… YES, he's responsible for all your problems!] (I think I'm feeling faked-out) Ok, I'm programed. Thanks guys… for making me OFFICIAL! YOUR Time Is Gonna Come … (Jones/Page) Lyin', cheatin', hurtin, that's all you seem to do. Messin' around with every guy in town, Puttin' me down for thinkin' of someone new. Always the same, playin' your game, Drive me insane, trouble is gonna come to you, One of these days and it won't be long, You'll look for me but baby, I'll be gone. This is all I gotta say to you woman: Your Time Is Gonna Come (Chorus) Made up my mind to break you this time, Won't be so fine, it's my turn to cry. Do want you want, I won't take the brunt. It's fadin' away, can't feel you anymore. Don't care what you say 'cause I'm goin' away to stay, Gonna make you pay for that great big hole in my heart. People talkin' all around, Watch out woman, no longer Is the joke gonna be on my heart. You been bad to me woman, But it's coming back home to you – Led Zepplin

Must Be Alot of Knowledge Out There… Here's a true story from my personal experience. It's very interesting… And I don't believe I've told it here before. I'm sure I haven't said this on the net before. I once met a guy in a fish store. Turns out he used to have a fish store in another city. (Story gets better, I promise). Anyway, this guy I met said an eccentric gentleman once approached him in his store he once owned: The following is as he told it to me… A gentleman once approached me in my store and said he'd been looking for me. Well, that caught my attention. He said someone talked to him about my marketing skills and he had this "product" he wanted to market… his own creation. (Can't remember the names involved. Sorry. But it can still be verified). Turns out this guy is a scientists. He was the government scientist who actually proved the existence of ESP (in their terms) by creating somekind of transparent ball where uh something was inside and it couldn't be tampered with. Great science huh? So this scientist in question is that person, whoever he is. (I'm just repeating what I heard). Here's where it gets interesting. Turns out this scientist had also islolated some chemical in the brain (I'm not even a layman here) that relates… now get this… to CLEAR thinking. This government scientist discovered a drug the empowers the brain… like steroids does for muscles. And he wanted to market it. He was talking about putting it in candy bars, etc. He wanted marketing advice from me in a consultant role. So he took me home and we talked business etc. I tested the drug and it was an amazing experience! It makes you very quick, very alert, and able to see all angles of a situation. (Now these are his words). I questioned him further. He said the drug did not make you moral, but just facilitated what you wanted to do. For some reason, the deal did not go through. End of story. ................................ Now the next time you see a sleezy politician staring you staight in the eye as he tells you how much he loves you, you can wonder if he's not on drugs. (Could some of these guest(s) be using this stuff?).

Ever get the creepy feeling that some of the people you are talking to are just doing their job? …that it's their job to talk to you? A smart man will wonder if he might not be paying for that privilege to argue with a dissenter through his taxes.

Start a revolution. Prabhupada will continue to preach widely. There's more to come. Prabhupada said, "If the people understand what's going on, there will be a revolution."

Begins with Srimad Bhagavatam 6.1.39 – The History of the Life of Ajamila As the soul is being dragged out by the Yamaduttas, the Visnuduttas (from the spiritual world) appeared to liberate Ajamila… They inquire about the duties of the attendants of death they are now checking… (See the language; how they are desribing circumstance and duty even as they act… ) ............................ What is the process of punishing others? Who are the actual candidates for punishment? Are all karmis engaged in fruitive activities punishable, or only some of them? The Yamadutas replied: That which is prescribed in the Vedas constitutes dharma, the religious principles, and the opposite of that is irreligion. The Vedas are directly the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Narayana, and are self-born. This we have heard from Yamaraja. The supreme cause of all causes, Narayana, is situated in His own abode in the spiritual world, but nevertheless He controls the entire cosmic manifestation according to the three modes of material nature—sattva-guna, rajo-guna and tamo-guna. In this way all living entities are awarded different qualities, different names [such as brahmana, ksatriya and vaisya], different duties according to the varnasrama institution, and different forms. Thus Narayana is the cause of the entire cosmic manifestation. The sun, fire, sky, air, demigods, moon, evening, day, night, directions, water, land and Supersoul Himself all witness the activities of the living entity. The candidates for punishment are those who are confirmed by these many witnesses to have deviated from their prescribed regulative duties. Everyone engaged in fruitive activities is suitable to be subjected to punishment according to his sinful acts. O inhabitants of Vaikuntha, you are sinless, but those within this material world are all karmis, whether acting piously or impiously. Both kinds of action are possible for them because they are contaminated by the three modes of nature and must act accordingly. One who has accepted a material body cannot be inactive, and sinful action is inevitable for one acting under the modes of material nature. Therefore all the living entities within this material world are punishable. In proportion to the extent of one’s religious or irreligious actions in this life, one must enjoy or suffer the corresponding reactions of his karma in the next. Those who act in the mode of goodness are promoted to higher planetary systems to become demigods, those who act in an ordinary way and do not commit excessively sinful acts remain within this middle planetary system, and those who perform abominable sinful actions must go down to hellish life. O best of the demigods, we can see three different varieties of life, which are due to the contamination of the three modes of nature. The living entities are thus known as peaceful, restless and foolish; as happy, unhappy or in-between; or as religious, irreligious and semireligious. We can deduce that in the next life these three kinds of material nature will similarly act. Just as springtime in the present indicates the nature of springtimes in the past and future, so this life of happiness, distress or a mixture of both gives evidence concerning the religious and irreligious activities of one’s past and future lives. The omnipotent Yamaraja is as good as Lord Brahma, for while situated in his own abode or in everyone’s heart like the Paramatma, he mentally observes the past activities of a living entity and thus understands how the living entity will act in future lives. As a sleeping person acts according to the body manifested in his dreams and accepts it to be himself, so one identifies with his present body, which he acquired because of his past religious or irreligious actions, and is unable to know his past or future lives. Above the five senses of perception, the five working senses and the five objects of the senses is the mind, which is the sixteenth element. Above the mind is the seventeenth element, the soul, the living being himself, who, in cooperation with the other sixteen, enjoys the material world alone. The living being enjoys three kinds of situations, namely happy, distressful and mixed. The subtle body is endowed with sixteen parts—the five knowledge-acquiring senses, the five working senses, the five objects of sense gratification, and the mind. This subtle body is an effect of the three modes of material nature. It is composed of insurmountably strong desires, and therefore it causes the living entity to transmigrate from one body to another in human life, animal life and life as a demigod. When the living entity gets the body of a demigod, he is certainly very jubilant, when he gets a human body he is always in lamentation, and when he gets the body of an animal, he is always afraid. In all conditions, however, he is actually miserable. His miserable condition is called samsrti, or transmigration in material life. The foolish embodied living entity, inept at controlling his senses and mind, is forced to act according to the influence of the modes of material nature, against his desires. He is like a silkworm that uses its own saliva to create a cocoon and then becomes trapped in it, with no possibility of getting out. The living entity traps himself in a network of his own fruitive activities and then can find no way to release himself. Thus he is always bewildered, and repeatedly he dies. Not a single living entity can remain unengaged even for a moment. One must act by his natural tendency according to the three modes of material nature because this natural tendency forcibly makes him work in a particular way. The fruitive activities a living being performs, whether pious or impious, are the unseen cause for the fulfillment of his desires. This unseen cause is the root for the living entity’s different bodies. Because of his intense desire, the living entity takes birth in a particular family and receives a body which is either like that of his mother or like that of his father. The gross and subtle bodies are created according to his desire. Since the living entity is associated with material nature, he is in an awkward position, but if in the human form of life he is taught how to associate with the Supreme Personality of Godhead or His devotee, this position can be overcome. ............................ And Later the Visnudutta's reply… Sukadeva Gosvami said: My dear King, the servants of Lord Visnu are always very expert in logic and arguments. After hearing the statements of the Yamadutas, they replied as follows. The Visnudutas said: Alas, how painful it is that irreligion is being introduced into an assembly where religion should be maintained. Indeed, those in charge of maintaining the religious principles are needlessly punishing a sinless, unpunishable person. A king or governmental official should be so well qualified that he acts as a father, maintainer and protector of the citizens because of affection and love. He should give the citizens good advice and instructions according to the standard scriptures and should be equal to everyone. Yamaraja does this, for he is the supreme master of justice, and so do those who follow in his footsteps. However, if such persons become polluted and exhibit partiality by punishing an innocent, blameless person, where will the citizens go to take shelter for their maintenance and security? The mass of people follow the example of a leader in society and imitate his behavior. They accept as evidence whatever the leader accepts. People in general are not very advanced in knowledge by which to discriminate between religion and irreligion. The innocent, unenlightened citizen is like an ignorant animal sleeping in peace with its head on the lap of its master, faithfully believing in the master’s protection. If a leader is actually kindhearted and deserves to be the object of a living entity’s faith, how can he punish or kill a foolish person who has fully surrendered in good faith and friendship? Ajamila has already atoned for all his sinful actions. Indeed, he has atoned not only for sins performed in one life but for those performed in millions of lives, for in a helpless condition he chanted the holy name of Narayana. Even though he did not chant purely, he chanted without offense, and therefore he is now pure and eligible for liberation. The Visnudutas continued: Even previously, while eating and at other times, this Ajamila would call his son, saying, “My dear Narayana, please come here.” Although calling the name of his son, he nevertheless uttered the four syllables na-ra-ya-na. Simply by chanting the name of Narayana in this way, he sufficiently atoned for the sinful reactions of millions of lives. The chanting of the holy name of Lord Visnu is the best process of atonement for a thief of gold or other valuables, for a drunkard, for one who betrays a friend or relative, for one who kills a brahmana, or for one who indulges in sex with the wife of his guru or another superior. It is also the best method of atonement for one who murders women, the king or his father, for one who slaughters cows, and for all other sinful men. Simply by chanting the holy name of Lord Visnu, such sinful persons may attract the attention of the Supreme Lord, who therefore considers, “Because this man has chanted My holy name, My duty is to give him protection.” By following the Vedic ritualistic ceremonies or undergoing atonement, sinful men do not become as purified as by chanting once the holy name of Lord Hari. Although ritualistic atonement may free one from sinful reactions, it does not awaken devotional service, unlike the chanting of the Lord’s names, which reminds one of the Lord’s fame, qualities, attributes, pastimes and paraphernalia. The Visnudutas, who are superior authorities, gave orders to the Yamadutas, who did not know that Ajamila was no longer subject to tribulation in hellish life for his past sins. Although he had chanted the holy name Narayana to indicate his son, the holy name is so transcendentally powerful that he was automatically freed because he had chanted the holy name while dying (ante narayana-smrtih). As Krsna confirms in Bhagavad-gita (7.28): yesam tv anta-gatam papam jananam punya-karmanam te dvandva-moha-nirmukta bhajante mam drdha-vratah “Persons who have acted piously in previous lives and in this life, whose sinful actions are completely eradicated and who are freed from the duality of delusion, engage themselves in My service with determination.” Unless one is freed from all sinful reactions, one cannot be promoted to the platform of devotional service. Elsewhere in Bhagavad-gita (8.5) it is stated: anta-kale ca mam eva smaran muktva kalevaram yah prayati sa mad-bhavam yati nasty atra samsayah If one remembers Krsna, Narayana, at the time of death, one is certainly eligible to return immediately home, back to Godhead. One who chants the holy name of the Lord is immediately freed from the reactions of unlimited sins, even if he chants indirectly [to indicate something else], jokingly, for musical entertainment, or even neglectfully. This is accepted by all the learned scholars of the scriptures. If one chants the holy name of Hari and then dies because of an accidental misfortune, such as falling from the top of a house, slipping and suffering broken bones while traveling on the road, being bitten by a serpent, being afflicted with pain and high fever, or being injured by a weapon, one is immediately absolved from having to enter hellish life, even though he is sinful. Authorities who are learned scholars and sages have carefully ascertained that one should atone for the heaviest sins by undergoing a heavy process of atonement and one should atone for lighter sins by undergoing lighter atonement. Chanting the Hare Krsna mantra, however, vanquishes all the effects of sinful activities, regardless of whether heavy or light. Although one may neutralize the reactions of sinful life through austerity, charity, vows and other such methods, these pious activities cannot uproot the material desires in one’s heart. However, if one serves the lotus feet of the Personality of Godhead, he is immediately freed from all such contaminations. As a fire burns dry grass to ashes, so the holy name of the Lord, whether chanted knowingly or unknowingly, burns to ashes, without fail, all the reactions of one’s sinful activities. If a person unaware of the effective potency of a certain medicine takes that medicine or is forced to take it, it will act even without his knowledge because its potency does not depend on the patient’s understanding. Similarly, even though one does not know the value of chanting the holy name of the Lord, if one chants knowingly or unknowingly, the chanting will be very effective. Sri Sukadeva Gosvami continued: My dear King, having thus perfectly judged the principles of devotional service with reasoning and arguments, the order carriers of Lord Visnu released the brahmana Ajamila from the bondage of the Yamadutas and saved him from imminent death.

I'LL DO ANYTHING You hold a life there in your hands You probably don't know Somehow your dreams became my plans Somewhere long ago Think about the things we've done and where we've been Your touch made me a king I don't want to live without your love again I'll do anything To make you see what I'm imagining To know the pleasure your smile can bring To keep the light from vanishing I'll do anything I fly this airplane upside down I walk out on the wing To see you watching from the ground I'll do anything When I see the light upon your upturned face I can hear the angels sing Don't ever let another take my place I'll do anything To make you see what I'm imagining To know the pleasure your smile can bring To keep the light from vanishing I'll do anything I make this world a place for you and me I make your happiness my responsibility To make this world the world you want to see I'll do anything When I see the light upon your upturned face I can hear the angels sing To see that no one ever takes my place I'll do anything To make you see what I'm imagining To know the pleasure your smile can bring To keep the light from vanishing I'll do anything – Jackson Browne

Coming Back to Life Where were you when I was burned and broken While the days slipped by from my window watching And where were you… when I was hurt and I was helpless Because the things you say and the things you do surround me. While you were hanging yourself on someone else's words… Dying to believe in what you heard I was staring straight into the shining sun… Lost in thought – and lost in time… While the seeds of life – and the seeds of change – were planted Outside the rain, fell dark and slow While I pondered on – this dangerous but irrestiable past-time I took a heavenly ride through one silence: I knew the moment had arrived… For killing the past – and COMING BACK TO LIFE! I took a heavenly ride through our silence I knew the waiting had begun And headed straight... into the shining sun - Pink Floyd

… for all of us? Desperado Desperado… Why don't you come to your senses? You been out ridin' fences for so long now, Oh, you're a hard one I know that you got your reasons, These things that are pleasin' you can hurt you somehow Don't you draw the queen of diamonds, boy She'll beat you if she's able You know the queen of hearts is always your best bet Now it seems to me some fine things have been laid upon your table, But you only want the ones you can't get Desperado Oh, you ain't gettin' no younger Your pain and your hunger, they're drivin' you home, And freedom, oh freedom well, that's just some people talkin' Your prison is walkin' through this world all alone Don't your feet get cold in the wintertime? The sky won't snow and the sun won't shine, It's hard to tell the nighttime from the day You're losin' all your highs and lows, Ain't it funny how the feelin' goes away? Desperado Why don't you come to your senses? Come down from your fences, open the gate It may be rainin', but there's a rainbow above you You better let somebody love you, Let somebody love you You better let somebody love you, Let somebody love you You better let somebody love you, Before it's too late - Eagles

"If it is envy, then use it. If it is competition, then use it. Approaching Krsna is the secret; He will eventually purify the motive." My dandavats! (There are no wiser words!)

I offered to work conjountly with all of you early on. I even offered my design skills and services to other individual devotional projects - just to be of help. How often to you get people offering their professional skills for free here? I thought my site would be that much better if it had the best input from various devotees. Damn, what made me think devotees should work together? I always wanted it to be more than my personal project. PS: Those links in the Index and text make the difference of Prabhupada preaching again! (This'll probably tick you off too - because you're blind). And what if Paz's creation is a result of following inspiration - a revelation? Is it still Paz's? Who might cause such a vision and inspire me to do it? You're saying it's Maya?

Now, if you can put aside your feelings for a moment, answer me this… What is wrong with the plan of the website? I am claiming it to be a perfect KC idea. Point out the defect in my thinking. Also, what is wrong with me doing it… in terms of my faulty character you rave so about? If you can not point out problems with these issues, then you don 't know what you're talking about. If my idea is pushing KC forward into exciting new preaching levels and if it is too big for me, then other devotees are at fault for not helping. Your site and many others you mentioned, have serious problems with design, navigation, etc. Frankly, they have serious problems attracting others. Appearance and such make all the difference in the world. In fact, most things are accepted superficially. But my site is not superficial. Through the index, I can direct guests to their specific spiritual interests in a matter of seconds. Do you like to read long posts here or short ones? You people have no vision. You have no sincerity to do what's best for Krsna. You can simply call me puffed-up for pointing out the facts. Hey, I don't even want the help from you people anymore. I don't think you can help. You're too atrophied for that.

Again, not responding to stupid statements from Guest(s).

Prabhupada knew how we felt. But he didn't care for it.

… "there is no dharma here." GHari, you must feel that you have to believe that way. That is not my memory of events at all. You ascribe motives and feelings to me that simply did not occur. Nor does it change my position. I'll continue just as I have and I'm safe in that position. I'm not encroaching or cheating or anything. You blame me as if I'm at fault, but you gave nothing more than your opinion. And I also remember quite well that your were scared of that response and had me take it down immediately - you asked me to delete that rebuttal to you. Now you use that as a basis for your grievance? You say I mistook your post because of my impurity. Actually, I mistook your post (you say I mistook it) because of my experience in talking with you before. I was trying hard to be your friend and less argumentative - as was my previous experiences with you. I thought you might be talking out of the side of your mouth again. In any case, I answered that rather strongly and you had no problem with my explanation or sincerity then other than saying it was a mistake and I should take it down. In other words, I dealt with the purity issue then. Now this outta nowhere? I could say jealousy or anger motivates you if I wanted to take my feelings over evidence. I was not trying to get anyone to help me with Windows again. I'm tasting the bliss of engagement, therefore I'm trying to encourage others to find engangement. Unfortunately, some think their engagement is to villify me on this board - can't distinguish friend from enemy. ......................... I left in a huff because I felt no one had a brain to serve Krsna. You're in a huff 'cause you think I'm criticizing you. And who am I to do that? You're gonna show me and others how you're the bigger man.

… everyone's brand of KC but mine? /images/graemlins/frown.gif