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Sambya copied and pasted the material from muslim sites without going in to the original texts and he claims to be a 23 year old brahmin()
Answering one by one let me start with
Agni is the son of his father and his sister [Rg Ved.I.91.7]
Sambya who claimed to be a brahmin(i dont have any idea if some muslims call themselves as brahmins) didnt even check it.
The actual hymn is (http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/rv01091.htm)
7) To him who keeps the law, both old and young, thou givest happiness,
And energy that he may live.
There is no mention of any birth here, leave alone agni or surya
next Rg Ved X.3.3][Apte 11](http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/rv10003.htm)
3 Attendant on the Blessed Dame the Blessed hath come: the Lover followeth his Sister.Agni, far-spreading with conspicuous lustre, hath compassed Night with whitelyshining garments.
Agni compassed night...There is no clarity in this verse if NIGHT referred to as sister.
And about pushan and aswins.([Rg Ved VI.55.4][Apte 11],RV I.116.19
Asvins, sons of Pusan are pre-dawn and Usas his sister is dawn;
There is no god or shakti representing dawn(before arrival of sun) or predawn,
it is one of those elusive references in vedas
Referring to his another one IV) The Ashvisns married Surya and Savitri who is their sister [RV I.116.19].
The actual hymn is (http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/rv01116.htm)
19 Ye, bringing wealth with rule, and life with offspring, life rich in noble heroes; O Nāsatyas,Accordant came with strength to Jahnu's children who offered you thrice every day your portion.
It refers to nasatyas the aswins (the heralders of the dawn)
The so called marriages are referring to Heralders of dawn to predawn and dawn.
They are no marriages because there doesnt exist any devas called usas(Dawn and predawn).These hymns are one of those undecipherable things in rigveda
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.the highest nobility would be if i say i respect and believe in truth of all religions.hindu scriptures have always stood for this. in the oldest religious book of mankind rig veda we find the famous verse
" ekam sat vipra vahuda vadanti " (Rig Veda 1.164.46)
ekam - unity ,only
sat - eternally existent or perment, truth ,reality
vipra - men of knowldge or intelligence, brahmins
vahuda - many,numerous
vadanti -to speak.
the truth is one ,the wise call it by many names.
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Too much of a coincidence...lol i saw muslims quoting this verse to say that Allah is the only god.
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Sambya,
Did u read the relevent portion of Badshahnama??.
It may be also of interest to you to go through this article http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/Printable.aspx?GUID=401C6222-3668-4E4B-9824-D85A9D2B4B6A
The article also quotes from "The Story of Civilization, by historian Will Durant "
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as i believe in teachings of ramakrishna paramahamsa i cant tolerate narrowmindedness and condemming other faiths.
You may have lot of tolerance but abrahamic faiths especially islamic faith condemns people like u with ferocity.As per them polytheists(they define u that way) has no reason to live
among my numerous fields of interst is the history of india. i have tried to read through many books and writings regaurding indian mughal history and architecture.You should read mughal history written by mughals themselfes, Not written by leftist hindu hating historians.
Fatehpur sikri was built after making Pyramid of hindu skulls(This was actual happening recorded ) Take a look at the book "
A History of the Great Moghuls
By Pringle Kennedy"
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Now tell me what is bogus in the book "
The True Story of the Taj Mahal"
I have answered the points raised by you.
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probably he would next claim fatehpur sikri a direct hindu dham as because it has even more hindu and jain influence.
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He(p.n. Oak) is not alive to make such a claim.But why does it bother you ???
The ferocity with which you are rubbishing Mr oak without reading the article tells me something.
Are u a muslim??
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you didnt get me . i read through most of the article ( not entirely though to be honest) and found it idiotic. i dont have the patience to proove each and every point wrong. if it was a matter of a few isolated points it was easy.but in oak's study almost all points are baseless and conjured from fertile imaginative power. its a sheer waste of time to refute all these idiotic points one by one.i dont have patience for that.Sure, You dont have any patience whatsover .Since you now, with great patience read and raised the points in Sri Oak's article let us examine them one by one
but for your understanding i shall give you a few examples :1 . there is no trident but a crescent moon on top of taj.
Is it inconceivable for you to think that the trident was removed and Moon symbol was placed???
2 . muntaz might not have been the complete name of the empress but certainly the one in which she was known all over india.Now you are speculating without reading the article and not doing any research.
Her name was "Mumtaz-ul Zamani" as recorded in Badshahnama(Take a look at home.freeuk.net/tajmahal/4badshah.htm for the scan copy obtained from archives of Government of India)
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why dosent the idiot mention the names and location of the two workers who have seen the shiva lingam.and what proove is there to suggest that archaeological survey is keeping silent ?archaeological survey of india will not be taking any risks without government approval.Dont u know that?
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all his 'documentary evidence' is mere narration of incidents , not depiction of sources or proofs.One of the important proofs is Badshanama .Pls go through the link i gave above.
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his 'architectural evidence' is also nonsense. indo islamic art always had a combination of hindu and muslim architecture.no wonder some features of taj are prominently hindu.Do you know of any muslim mausoleum built with so called "indo islamic art".
Did you read any points he raised about the architecture..
"western building which is claimed to be a mosque has no minarets"
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numerous places he cites lack of records as an conclusive evidence . it is ridiculous to expect all records to survive in history.Badshahnama did survive and it has description about Mumtaz burial
sorry ,couldnt help it.have no mercy for such persons trying to rob others of their glory.What Glory??? Glory of claiming other's work as their own?? Destruction of hindu temples and using the idols as steps???
What islamic glory you are talking about??
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.the entire article is sheer non sense. almost all the 'proofs' and resoning are bogus. im really sorry for not having the required patienceIf you don't have the patience to read you should not be commenting on it in the first place
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.taj mahal a hindu temple ?!!!!!!!!!!!could you go ask the propagaters of this bizzare theory what proove they have for this ? .
A well researched article is at http://stephen-knapp.com/true_story_of_the_taj_mahal.htm
Tej-o-Mahalaya:
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Scientists, in most of the cases set out to FIND something.And science is ever evolving.And Scientitsts go wrong many times , but spiritual minded people need not jump in everytime and comment on something which they dont understand.
Let the scientists create life out of chemicals and then we will comment.Why do u want to rob them of their right to speculate??
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So called scientists explaining that they have full control over the DNA and are about to increase life up to 200 years.Since modern science cannot analyze all the data stored in the subtle body it seems they only know things concerning the gross body.
What exactly is your objection?.They are called scientists for a good reason.They do what they set out to do.
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Interesting news.
Thanks
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Dating of Bhagavadgita invariably ties up with dating of mahabharat war.There is no clinching evidence for the dating of mahabharat war.
The dating is as difficult as dating the disappearence of Saraswati river which was considered mythical by the western scholars (until it's evidence found from satellite imagery)-
gisdevelopment.net/application/archaeology/site/archs0001a.htm
gisdevelopment.net/application/archaeology/site/archs0001pf.htm
I would take with a pinch of salt any dating of mahabharat war(and hence Gita) since many details are missing in the subsequent history.
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. Advaita is more a scientific concept.Oh yes, Einstein actually was a advaitan.Einstein actually devised Theory of relativity from advaitan concepts :idea:
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Of course, logically speaking the whole concept of wanting to be free is flawed. Most people who want to be free, accept this freedom will not happen during their lifetime. So it is more of avoiding rebirth. But why do they care? Cheers
Many do care.
That new person will have no recollection of the past and will not miss anything. And we have no way of knowing how that person's life will be. He may be one of those who sails through life with no pain at all and is happy about his life. So really, it does not make much sense to think and work towards avoiding rebirth.
It makes sense to many who are still happy with their lives, here on earth.
But there is no compulsion that one has to work towards avoiding rebirth.There is No punishment for not working towards salvation(mukthi)
Just like we do not remember any of our past births and know only this single birth, the same will be true in the next birth. So in that sense, there is no rebirth at all. There is only one birth at any point of time. But again, all this is valid only if we choose to bring in logic, and logic as we all know, is a bad thing .Cheers
If we remember our past lives it is going to be one hell of a life.Is it not.The idea is to live life as it is.
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Nobody needs to decide your Karma Phala. Are you reducing the power of God to a watch-dog or a judge to monitor/judge and punish or bestow?.
How god decides / arrange to decide the fruits of karma is not the botheration of humans.Why it makes u angry that KARMA has a role to play???
Is it because of the arrogant mayavadi assertion that u are no different from god ??
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This is discussed extensively in many threads.Why dont u go through them instead of spamming the forums with same question???
U already opened a thread at indiadivine.org/audarya/spiritual-discussions/449748-kalki-purana.html
I already informed u at that thread opened by you
to go through indiadivine.org/audarya/spiritual-discussions/445621-kalki-avatar-2.html.
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He talks like a vaisnava except in this very vital area. " Buyer beware"Yeah, vaishnavism is a threat all hindus beware :rolleyes:
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Sarcasm is welcome...Not when it is the only argument.lol
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Yes dear. Agreed. But I do not need your endorsement to care or not care. I know. I say. You know, so you do. If you think I am Shani Dev himself, thanks. You have alliviated me to the highest position. You are my next victim of Saadey Saathi. I will follow wherever you go.This doesnt belong here..
Wow srikanth, ranjeet didnt reply to u.Why so much of anger????.
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Yes,Advaita is a complete hoax.I agree
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JPS is surely a spiritual teacher but since he does not recognize 10,000 world wide devotees who worship Srila Prabhupada as current spiritual master of Krsna's parampara he is not a spiritual teacher for all kind of Gaudiya-Vaishnavas.You dont have to accept him as ur spiritual teacher.
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The father has said himself, I am 'my son' [Rudra]..[/unquote]The father wont be angry if a humanbeing worships his son as his own manifestation.
Got it??????
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The weapons described in mahabharat dont have ANY resemblence to Nuclear weapons.So this news even if it is true has no correlation to Asthras of those times.
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Why not just ban these silly fellows like Hindustani and ARJ.
they are not here for spiritual discussions.
ARJ is a confirmed missionary and hindustani certainly is no hindu.
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Sambya also copied and pasted(from muslim sites)
VI) Yama wards off his sister Yami, saying marriage between brother and sister is forbidden [R.V.X.10][Apte 11]
FYI there is no such thing with the number mentioned
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/rv05010.htm
There are only 7 aptes in book 5 hymn 10