chandu_69

We already know that your theories and world view is the only one that is right.

I dont mind calling a spade a spade.

You are a very objective person and constantly tell people that don't to your view that their view is stupid.

I could be stupid sometimes but your conspiracy theories are plain nonsense because they are not based on any facts but opinions of some people.

if you could refrain from replying to my posts anymore it would be appreciated unless you are going to say something you haven't already told me.

Ok.I will remove your name from the quotes.

But this is an open forum not your personal blog.

You'd really have to check this site out...http://dancutlermedicalart.com/AlbertEinstein%27sZionism/01EinsteinBeforeZionism.htm Yeah, its long and boringly educational but if you don't mind a little perspective and history its pretty good.

Conspiracy Theory is all easy till we place the Human Element in the picture. How likely will you take up arms to murder your brother or sister human at the behest of Sharon types or Arafat types. There is an inner belief inside of these arm-bearers that justifies the violence. All the manipulators have to do is to tap into that inner belief. It happened in Nazi Germany, Rwanda, recent Mumbai, etc...Why would Arafat be an "unwitting accomplice" and not a fully agreeing member? This seems slanted.

The Jewish lobby in Washington is very strong.

Not any more.The jewish influence on american establishment is on downhill and there are no signs whatsover of getting back that influence they lost.

Sorry, AncientMariner' But i have to tell you something, you,like suchandra on this board form your opinions based on stupid theories and warped opinions.

People who are suffering with delusions of friendship should follow what is happening with in the state of pakistan.

Pakistan is vehemently denying the nationality of Kasab, the lone terrorists caught in attacks.The pakistani establishment is wiping the records clean but they could not erase the family of kasab.

Fridaytimes of pakistan reports about ajmal kasab's family.Baba Farid’s kot is on Google Earth by Jugnu Mohsin

http://www.rediff.com/news/2009/jan/05mumterror-how-ajmal-kasab-took-to-radical-islam.htm

The particular web page of fridaytimes is not opening from today onwards.But the content can be read from it's forum as reported by jugnu Mohsin.

http://forum.atimes.com/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=196682&TOPIC_ID=14408&FORUM_ID=4

"His mother’s heart would sink when he'd say “I am going to liberate Kashmir”. They say she broke down and went to pieces the minute she saw that famous CCTV photo grab of him in his blue Versace T-shirt and the killing machine in his hand

Faridkot of Ajmal ‘Qasai’ fame is a mere ten miles from my ancestral village in tehsil Depalpur, Punjab. Before the 21 year-old went on his killing spree in Mumbai,"

Interview: ‘Third party behind Mumbai attack’

 

 

Chetan Upadhyaya – Sify December 31, 2008

 

A war between India and Pakistan is unthinkable, believes Shah Zaman Khan, Minister, Press, at the Pakistan High Commission in New Delhi.

 

The war hysteria in both nations is being fuelled by “one common enemy that does not want India and Pakistan to be friends,”

Friends .Man, what a gullible fellow you are.If you read musharraf and other ISI(pakistan) chief statements they will also be dripping with desire of peace and friendship.

Yes, I agree with you. No religion is actually in favour of killing innocents

Lol, another stupidity.All those jihadi terrorists read their scriptures in original arabic and they know who is innocent and who is not.

Unless the jihadi factories are crushed and removed out of existence india will be facing these jihadi attacks nonstop.

I think it is Prabhupada's prediction. When there would be war starting between India and Pakistan it would turn out to become a world war.

 

"Prabhupāda: Yes, they are getting. They are already getting. The Pakistan will start the war with India. And then everything will be…"

Pakistan won't be starting war with india till they are sure of victory.Meanwhile they will continue to bleed india by terror till india is weakened on all fronts.

http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Is-Dawood-Ibrahim-behind-Mumbai-attacks/392185/

Nobody is downplaying role of Dawood ibrahim in providing mobile sim cards and other logistics to jihadis.

The report is dated nov29 and some indian muslims are arrested.

Pakistan is vehemently declining to handover Dawood ibrahim for the last 25 years.

Dawood ibrahim was the main culprit in 1993 mumbai(then bombay) blasts.Dawood was declared guilty in india courts and interpol notice is on him.

obviously the writer of this article don't know any thing about the situation in india.

It is completely open and known to everybody that the alqaida operatives were provided weaponry by america in soviet days of afghanistan occupation.

The jihadists after tasting success in defeating the soviets have now trained their guns on westerners .

Geo News television is the latest to confirm that the lone gunman captured during the Mumbai carnage does indeed belong to a village in Pakistan’s Punjab province. The channel’s 9 p.m. news report on Friday showed footage of people at Faridkot in Deepalpur tehsil, Okara district in south Punjab talking about Mohammad Ajmal Amir (‘Kasab’) as a boy from the village who had last been seen four or five months ago.

"Geo News" (pakistani news channel) reported that “He told his mother to give him her blessings as he was going for jihad,” one old man told the Geo reporter.

http://www.hindu.com/2008/12/13/stories/2008121359931000.htm

http://www.asianage.com/presentation/leftnavigation/news/india/kasab-to-village-i%E2%80%99m-going-for-jihad.aspx

http://specials.rediff.com/news/2008/dec/13sld1-inside-pakistans-terror-schools.htm

Terror training schools, teaching hundreds of new and young recruits in suicide missions and the use of sophisticated weapons, have been active in many parts of Pakistan, including Punjab, the North West Frontier Province, Waziristan and Pakistan occupied Kashmir. Different terrorist groups, including the Lashkar-e-Tayiba, often with the help of former Pakistan army soldiers, run these schools or camps. The syllabus, the training and indoctrination are far more sophisticated than the pre-9/11 training camps.

The terrorists who attacked Mumbai on November 26, 2008, and killed over 160 people were trained in one or two of these schools where several hundred others have been undergoing training for more than two years.

Pakistan's Intelligence Chief says on tv, he's innocent!<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hwVoY4Ft5I&hl=de&fs=1&color1=0xe1600f&color2=0xfebd01" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344">

Of course pakistan is in denial mode for last 2 decades.

What do you expect? announce in public their support to jihadi factories.

You are really funny , suchandra.

That's nice thinking but what practical action do they propose?

More homams for peace, perhaps.

I have heard there is eventually going to be a war between India and Pakistan or that the US would invade Pakistan for a few months now. The articles say that is what the international bankers want and how they profit. We will see if this comes true. I heard there were going to be some kind of event that would escalate tensions. I don't know if it was a lucky guess by the author that wrote it or not but seeing this terrorist attack where one of the men arrested is an indian counterinsurgency officer that apparently didn't do a good enough job sure was strange to manifest in reality, we will see what happens.

The writer(the article quoted) was cleverly mixing up things

Mumbai attackers were identified as pakistanis .

Mariner, it appears that chopra etal are the conspirators paid by pakistan sympathisers to deflect attention from it's jihadi factories.

It is now established beyond doubt That pakistan is a worldwide training centre for jihadis .

google news search http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&rlz=1B3GGGL_enIN296IN297&q=pakistan%20training%20camps%20jihad&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn

google websearch- http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1B3GGGL_enIN296IN297&q=pakistan+training+camps+jihad&btnG=Search

Old article:

Pakistan haunted by jihadis in the closet - http://www.arabtimesonline.com/kuwaitnews/pagesdetails.asp?nid=25622&ccid=11

Save your breath. I think the point has been driven home. Ad hominic attacks are always a sign that the person has no more arguments to make, but is unwilling to accept the fact.

 

Cheers

Save your breath

My earlier comment on sleeper is for Sambya and i provided evidence all over the place.

As i said earlier i have nothing else to discuss with you.

Cheers

CORRECT !!!!! these discussions are beyond the intellectual capacity of modern gaudiya vaishnavas.

 

in the olden days the most intellectual of all people including kings , philosophers etc got into gaudiya vaishnavism. god knows when did it all change and for what reason......

Hahaha says who?. A sleeper who quotes rigveda interpretations from muslim sites.I have'nt seen a cheat who is as shameless as you.

Show me where I compared Islam and Vaishnavism.

 

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Dishonesty and hair splitting.As pointed out by bhaktajan there is no point in any discussion worthwhile with you.

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Gopis are subconsciously thinking about other things besides Krishna. That is what you say.

 

No reference whatsoever about gopis in the original post.

No need to get worked up about a minor thing.Obviously gopis are on a different plane compared to ordinary people.

An ordinary bhaktha is not interested in semantics.No need to fight over semantics.That is my opinion for sure.

Peace.

The above quote (from an unnamed source?) says nothing about SB accepted as Sruti. Popular does not equate to Sruti, in case that is your argument. Vyasa's good intentions are completely irrelevant in classifying a text as Sruti/Smriti.

SB is shruti and a commentary on vedas accepted by acharyas worth their name.If you differ show your sources.

Edit:Text Mixed up and hence removed.

ranjeetmore,

I am sorry to say this but your posts are offensive and ridiculous .I request you with all sincerity to refrain from posting any further.It seems you lose sight of the fact that this is a public forum and any hindu posting such silly thoughts is going to make hinduism a laughing stock.I strongly object to your first post(post no:121) on this page.

You yourself said that you are unaware of the original scriptures but post what you here from some illinformed and small time gurus.

I did not ask for Upanishads. If you see such a request from me somewhere on this thread, please correct me.

Oh yes u didnt ask for it it is actually mahanila who felt compelled to post scriptures other than BG and sb.

Wrong. Shankara and Rananuja never quoted from the Bhagavatam. They only quoted the Vishnu Purana. Madhva wrote a summary on the Bhagavatam, but it is common knowledge that he we was ver clear about the distinction between Shruti and Smriti - and a work authored by Vyasa does not pass as Shruti in his doctrine. If you do not believe me, I can produce Madhva's exact quotes on this distinction.

Bhagavatam(SB) is shruti( i Misspelled) ofcourse and

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The Bhagavata Purana is held in the highest esteem by Vedic tradition, Vaishnavism, and Hinduism in general. Within Vaishnavism (and many other Hindu traditions), no other Hindu text surpasses the Bhagavata Purana in significance or importance. Hindu tradition maintains that the author of the Bhagavata Purana (Veda Vyasa), wrote the Bhagavatam with the intent that it be the summation point of all Vedic literature and philosophy.

unquote.

And Shankara and Ramanuja didnt dare to disown Bhagavatham either.

That rules out the Big 3 & leaves only the Hare Krishnas to believe the Bhagavatam as Shruti. You may also want to get some basics on what Shruti means both literally and in common parlance as well.

It may rule out for critiques like you but for the vast majority of hindus and acaryas there is no dispute whatsover about Bhagavatam.

Any text that ranks Gods and singles one out as the highest is sectarian. All Puranas are sectarian. So is the Mahabharata. Again, these are simple basics.

Surely Rigveda makes it clear that vishnu is at the topmost.

And yet, you patted Mahanila for the same post with a "well said". So you vehemently object to and appreciate this - both at the same time.

 

Cheers

Yes i patted him for his stand on what he beleives.But i criticized Iskcons and vaishnavites who declare Siva as a demigod .

Really, you are making much ado about nothing.

Now would you care to explain on your ridiculous comparison you made above .I responded to you one post above.

US warning is yielding results.Pakistan which was vehemently declining to acknowledge Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) camps have finally arrested their leaders.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article5305642.ece

Lashkar-e-Taiba is the main group involved in major terror attacks in kashmir and mumbai.

excellent

It is like devils quoting scriptures.This fellow posts hate and nonsense all over this forum.

Chill out, ranjeetmore.The article essentially is agreeing with what you say.I

Suggest you reread the article and sarva response.

Cheers.

And your comments indicated panic and anger.

 

"PLSSS, don't speculate." Hahaha

Hahaha.Get to the point.Will you

Why do you feel the need to call certain gods and goddesses 'demi--half--gods' and 'demi--half--goddesses' but not others?

I dont feel a need nor i support the word demi-god.Didnt u notice i included deva/deity.Does it give pleasure to you to focus on silly things?.Perhaps you like to play Dumb.

Do you also call certain animals 'demi-animals'? Or certain people 'half-people'? If so, what makes them only half and not whole?

Are u not capable of intelligent discussion??.Perhaps you love to see your words more often.

Do you realize that the word you translate as 'demigod' [deva] is also used to describe Krishna? Does 'Vasudeva' ring a bell? How would you translate that? 'Demigod of the Vasu Tribe', and call Krishna a demigod?

Unlike you i dont bi*tch if somebody translates a word differently.

Enough said.Now can we expect some intelligent comments from you in future.

Hahahahaha! I'd love to see how vehemently you'd react if I said, "Sriman Narayan is a demigod." Yet, when I make one small comment, you blow your lid. What nonsense.

Where did i react vehemently???.And where did i blew my lid on such occassion??.PLSSS, dont speculate.

Get a grip. There's no reason for a panic attack.

No panic whatsover.Get to the point.

And, in turn, I'd like to ask you:

How does my comment affect anyone chandu? Especially you?

Your comment indicates it effects you.

Are the worshipers of Vishnu under threat from the Shaktas? Are Vishnu worshipers under threat?

Not in the least.

Do Shaktas abuse them? Do the Shaktas say all non-Shaktas go to hell?

As far as i am aware Shaktas don't abuse and neither do vaishnavas.

Now get to the point . will you???.

Worshipping demigods(devas) is not a bad thing as per bhagavadgita.

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BG 7.22: Endowed with such a faith, he endeavors to worship a particular demigod and obtains his desires. But in actuality these benefits are bestowed by Me alone.

Now are you going to open any thread explaining your concept of Advaitha.Or you are just content spamming with your silly posts calling people who disagree with you as fools.