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Originally posted by Tarun:
Usama bin Laden? Usama bin Long Gone.
Osama Bin Hidin -- ya can run, but ya jus canna hide, least not for long. Course he may have just offed himself a la Hitler...
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Seems like right about here this thread took a strange twist which I can't see as related to the original subject matter in any way, except perhaps in that even discussing celibacy drives some people nuts, what to speak of those that may be somewhat askew to begin with...
Tarun
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posted 01-17-2002 03:22 PM
Sometimes even Celibacy is not enough.
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Originally posted by Tarun:
If you'ver experienced household life, can you blame Him?
Tarun, back with a bang! On behalf of the better half: OUCH!!!
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Radhe Radhe always Radhe!
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Your problem could be excessive flicking of the doohickey without first connecting the hoosit to your watchamacallit. This inevitably results in shorting which in turn causes arcing that can, in the worst case scenario, ignite your fartz and blow up the entire system without warning.
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For your info: `angel dust` is the street name for a widely misused drug whose conventional use is to tranquilize horses. Whether or not this has any relationship to the individual under discussion on this thread or his state of mind is unknown to this poster... -
"Ahbeeb!"
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For those who may not `get` my add-on above, one word: transvestite!
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Found this on another forum, Does anyone have any info about the devotee who wrote it? valaya
our confession and request
OH RADHE ! HEAR the crying of Your naughty quarrlesome children !
We have made a terrible mess of the beautiful home that you prepared for
us ! We have ruined everything, but we are dishonest and proud and blame
each other. We are envious and all claim to be YOUR FAVORITE. We
think that we can abuse you because you are so mericful, and Father is not
watching ! We are so deluded by Your own spell of Maya ! Please forgive
our terrible behavior and our vices and remove the veil of prideful ignorance
that we have earned by our offences unto You, (our APARADHA). Please
remove your veil from before our eyes and let us see you once again ! We
have willfully wandered away from Your Motherly Protection into the dark
night of a cold entropic cosmos, and we are weeping and shivering without
Your Consolation and Your warm embrace. Show us again the soothing
Golden moon-like luster of Your Smiling Face that lights and warms the
Three Worlds and the Heart of Sri Hari ! Enlighten us ! Oh Radha Mata Devi !
We are dirty, destructive and disobediant. Please cleanse us, mend us and gently
bend us to YOUR SWEET WILL for our good, and the good of all creation,
SHANTI ! AUM and HARE KRISHNA! JAYA RADHE ! and AMEN !
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offered this Holy Radhastami by your troublesome, immature, rascal son,
Bhakti Ananda Goswami
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Radhe Radhe always Radhe!
[This message has been edited by valaya (edited 01-27-2002).]
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The sweeter the nectar, the more frenzied the bugs...
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Srila Promode Puri Gosvami writes in "The Heart of Krsna." http://bvml.org/ SBPPG/hok-intr.html:
"THE ETYMOLOGICAL development of the word aparadha is radhat arthat aradhanat- apagatah, which means `to be distanced from worship.` Offenses committed at the lotus feet of Vaishnavas, the Devotees, distance one from devotional service to the Supreme Lord. But in a higher sense it means to be removed from the service of Sri Radha. All divine service to Krishna is being conducted under her direction. To offend her servitors is to make one unfit for her divine service. The whole aim of Krishna consciousness is Radha-dasyam, the divine service of Sri Radha, and offenses at the lotus feet of Vaishnavas make one unfit for such service"
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Radhe Radhe always Radhe!
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To put it simply, time conquers all. Though we may struggle physically, mentally and/or `spiritually` the fact is that ultimately we must come to the realization we are not in control. Time moves on in spite of everything, no matter what.
Realizing time (Krsna) as the inevitable controller within our relative world, where we may appear relatively in control of our lives, helps us to surrender to Him personally. That of course is the real message of Bhagavad Gita, at least as far as devotees are concerned, while the passage quoted is just one sloka.
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Radhe Radhe always Radhe!
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Srila Gurudeva’s Australian Tour
Murwillumbah
12th–20thFeb 2002
Brisbane
21-23Feb 2002
Cessnock
24-27Feb 2002
Dandavats Prabhus and Didis
Please accept our dandavat pranams. This is the 6th visit of Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja to bless us in Murwillumbah. This has always proved to be one of the best stops on Srila Gurudeva’s world tours and we invite all of the vaisnavas to come so that we may have a chance to serve you. Gurudeva’s appearance day will be on the 12th of February – his arrival in Murwillumbah.
Festival Fees:
You are coming as invited guests so that we may have a chance to serve you. There are no festival fees. The disciples are the foot dust of the Guru and no one should stay away and not hear Bhagavatam because they have no money.
Prasadam Fees:
Prasadam is the mercy of the Lord. At this festival there will be no one collecting money for distributing mercy. If you give a donation we will not see this as you paying any fees but you giving us your mercy.
Transportation:
All can be collected from the train and bus station in Murwillumbah by ringing 66727113 without prior notice. Most can be collected from Coolangata (15 min away) and Brisbane (90 min away) but it is best to give advance notice to avoid waiting.
Accommodations:
Those satisfied with simple accommodation and suitable for a temple environment may stay very near to Gurudeva at the Brisbane Street Temple and next door as last year.
Those families with small children should contact us early so we can see how to best serve you.
Those wanting a quiet country setting and willing to travel 40 minutes to the programs may stay at the country retreat for free.
Those desiring luxury and ocean views may stay at one of the many near by resorts. Here you will find the scenery better than California and the prices less. But this is not the mood of the Goswamis so we encourage all to live simple and with the devotees.
Financing:
The cost of this festival is $8000 for prasadam and hosting. Plus $10,000 for airfares that Brajanath Prabhu has asked for. It will be helpful if all the financial devotees, especially those on the East Coast of Australia (Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne etc.) help meet this target. This is our festival we are the hosts. Ramanuja Acharya would not visit his wealthiest disciple because they only showed interest in serving him not his disciples. Instead he went to the poorest disciple because, even though it was beyond their means they desired to serve not only their Guru but also all of his disciples.
Two Giriraja Govardhana Gavdiya Math accounts are ready for direct deposit via internet from anywhere in the world or at any branch in Australia:
Prasadam and hosting ---- Commonwealth # 062580 2800 6912
Air Fares ----------------------- Commonwealth # 062580 1016 1113
Please notify Lilasuka@bigpond.com.au (61 266797025) of donations so we can send you a receipt. Also checks can be made out to Giriraja Govardhana Gavdiya Math and posted to 56 Brisbane Street, Murwillumbah N.S.W. 2484.
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In Uddhava Kyeri, in great love and affection, Srimati Radhika deeply
remembered Krsna. Weeping, she asked the bumblebee, "Krsna is coming? When is He coming? Is He on the way here? Can you tell me? How is He? Does He remember His friends in Vrajabhumi? Does He remember His father and mother? Does He remember Us? Does He remember Me? Does He at least say to any of His Queens, 'Radha is not as intelligent as you.' Or, does He perhaps tell one of them, 'This garland is not as good as those made by the gopis.'" Speaking in this way, Radhika became unconscious.
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Radhe Radhe always Radhe!
[This message has been edited by valaya (edited 01-26-2002).]
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Originally posted by Yashoda_dd:
"Sri Radha-Krpa-Kataksa-Stava-Raja", verse 7 (song spoken by Lord Siva in a conversation with Gauri in the Urdhvamnaya-tantra)
mrnala-vala-vallari taranga-ranga-dor-late
latagra-lasya-lola-nila-locanavalokane
lalal-lulan-milan-manojna mugdha-mohanasrite
kada karisyasiha mam krpa-kataksa-bhajanam?
Your soft arms are like fresh, delicate lotus stems elegantly swaying in the waves. Just as a creeper dances in a gust of wind, Your restless bluish eyes flash an enthralling glance. Your charm entices Madana Mohana Himself to follow after You, and when meeting, You steal away his mind and then give him shelter in his spellbound condition - O Srimati Radhike, when, oh when will You bestow upon me Your merciful sidelong glance?
Jai Jai Sri Radhe!
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Krsna trying to console Himself:
"Oh no I never got over
those blue eyes,
I see them everywhere.
Oh no I never got over
those blue eyes,
And She thinks
I don't care..."
(From a song by Ronnie Hawkins, sort of)
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Radhe Radhe always Radhe!
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Originally posted by Tarun:
Not to pass gas? Wat van party was dat?
Unleaded? Premium?
More like natural gas...or, come to think of it (and I kinda wish I hadn't), un-natural. Phwooee! You bring out the worst in me!
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Yeh, but Binnie's `life threatening disease` is the U.S. military!
[This message has been edited by valaya (edited 01-26-2002).]
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Keep your beads with you always, except in the washroom of course. If you are unable to chant, just hold onto those 108+ gopis and cry pitifully...most of us are yet suckling babes in need of close nurturing. The more we admit our absolute helplessness and complete dependency on unconditional mercy and His Unlimited Divine Grace, the more that precious milk will flow. Only our foolish pride stands in the way!
A baby cannot be placated with mere words or some cheap plastic pacifier. Nothing but Mother's breast will do and he is not at all shy about demanding it! That tangible experience is what we're all so hungry for. She's freely available to each of us, so why fool ourselves into thinking we can be satisfied with anything/anyone else?
First we must learn to take full shelter of Radhika, then we may be ready to take on Krsna. In case you haven't noticed, He can play a little rough at times, to put it mildly...
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Radhe Radhe always Radhe!
[This message has been edited by valaya (edited 01-26-2002).]
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So, like, are we having fun yet? Could someone please pass the Haldol?
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[This message has been edited by valaya (edited 01-26-2002).]
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For your info: My above post has been substantially re-edited for clarification. I do hope it will be at least acceptable enough to remain on this forum for further discussion. Thank you.
valaya
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Here is the post from last night as promised. Any implied criticism should be seen in the context of what I firmly believe are most important philosophical points involving the very root of our spiritual focus as Gaudiya vaisnavas. Those who see no relevance to themselves need not participate in this or any other discussion. We are all free to choose for ourselves where we wish to join in these forum threads.
jndas may have been receiving complaints from certain people.
jndas: Just for the record, 95% of the time I delete anything it is because some user has complained. Most of the time I'm just skimming and miss something that may be offensive. Regarding this particular thread, I had not read it at all until I received several complaints from users.
Some usually anonymous users (see above quote) seem to feel, however, that they have the right or duty to demand that the moderator delete posts/threads or even permanently ban supposed gross offenders. Surely that defeats the very freedom of debate that `Spiritual Discussion` requires if it is to be productive in our common search for a deeper understanding of what realization of the absolute truth actually entails.
Certainly, it is not a cheap or painless process by any means. We must challenge ourselves as well as each other if there is to be real sincerity in our interactions. It's not for the faint of heart!
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Originally posted by Pita das:
Well Janus All we can say is you had a bad experence with Rocana Prabhu
which we havent
It is better that you forget and forgive
Let it go and let it pass.
we dont have to assiocate with everyone but we look for those devottees
which inspirit us to continue on.
avoid those that do not.
Originally posted by valaya:
Sadly, Pita das, while I must agree with `forgive and forget`, association according to our own heartfelt inspiration is exactly what Rocana is advising against! Brahma das and Audarya Lila das harbour no ill will or bad feelings towards Rocana das. They are personally and philosophically disputing, quite expertly I might add, what is being broadcast publicly through an internet forum, on a harekrsna website no less, in an effort to influence older devotees or entice newcomers backwards up a narrowing one-way street with no exit.
Without confirming our evolving realizations and personal viewpoints at least with those of previous acaryas through their books, but preferably under the personal guidance of a living guru (absolutely perfect or not), at the very least our advancement becomes stifled. That's one thing, but to stifle others is surely far more serious., which I believe is the motivation behind the confrontation on Dharma-mela.
Although we were all trained to preach and it is the desire of Lord Caitanya that everyone become guru, there's a world of difference between parroting scripture and realizing it. To truly distribute His Divine Grace, one must actually become His Divine Grace and thereby manifest His Divine Grace. If we limit His Divine Grace to any one personality or group, living or not, and cannot see Srimati Radharani and Lord Caitanya as it's sole source, then we are not followers of the parampara we profess to be. It is our personal responsibility to realize for ourselves what the term `Rupanuga` means and if it cannot be seen as synonymous with `Prabhupadanuga`, then something within our realization requires correction.
That is the `great enemy` Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur warned us against,
known as sectareanism. In fact, sectareanism goes much farther to include the exclusion of all religions, indeed everyone! The solution is, as Bhaktivinode advised, to become an essence follower and attach ourselves there, learning to extract that same essence everywhere and developing a taste for it.
It is perfectly clear to me that the spiritual essence is personalized as none other than Srimati Radharani Herself, and Mahaprabhu due to Her mood. She is pure devotional service as well as the controller and bestower of it, whether through Lord Caitanya, Sri Gurudev or even Her own Sweet Self. That is how and why She controls Sri Krsna, which is what makes Bhakti effective as a means of self-realization.
That self the bhakta comes to realize, in this particular sampradaya anyway, is part and parcel of Sri Radhika and one with Her in mood. The difference is, we serve Her mood through Sri Gauranga as Her variegated infinitesmal portions, while She remains the gushing source of that Divine Love which is our very life and soul. Through devotional service under the guidance of a pure devotee the doors are all opened to an emotional attachment directly with Her, our dearmost Swamini-Kisori.
This is the real dovetailing recommended by Srila Prabhupada as the fastest process. Once that is achieved to some extent, anything and anyone can help to cement it more firmly. One who genuinely knows himself/herself as the least is able to benefit from the association of their beloved Sri Gurudev in all!
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Radhe Radhe always Radhe!
[This message has been edited by valaya (edited 01-26-2002).]
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jndas
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posted 01-25-2002 01:14 PM
If you want to post a message which you feel has spiritual content, please post it in a fresh thread. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Thank you for the expression of regret, if that's the proper term. I'll try to dig up the post that was singled out for deletion from the Dharma-mela thread last night, without explanation or comment.
Also thanks to Janus for such understanding support. As usual, you've fearlessly grasped the bull by the horns. Hopefully I'll come up with a worthy reply to your direct and challenging post.
valaya
[This message has been edited by valaya (edited 01-26-2002).]
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There's a place for us
A time and a space for us
Time to love, and
A time to share
Wait for us somewhere...
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Guess the words may be a bit off,
but the sentiment shines through.
valaya
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Radhe Radhe always Radhe!
[This message has been edited by valaya (edited 01-25-2002).]
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I've been known to collect a pocketful of change at parties by promising not to pass gas...come to think about it, for the right price I'll promise not to post! Now that should be worth a tidy sum, eh?
valaya a la maya
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