Govindaram

Hare Krishna

Why is it i cannot trust Krishna? what is wrong with me?

Hare Krishna

From what i have learnt theres no point forcing ppls to believe more in Krishna, you can encourage your wife, i know you already know this..hearing is very important esp from a self-realised soul, they have an amazing effect on your mind, so listen to Srila Prabhupada lectures with your wife, or watch videos of SP giving lectures.

There is another thread which i started called 'over familiar with Krishna', i feel many Hindus think they are loving Krishna more, so they not think sadhana is not important, they have automatic ticket to Goloka, anyway we don't have a monopoly over Krishna (God), sravanam ki jai.

Hare Krishna

Also, you made me realize i was fooling myself into thinking i have some kind of attachment/love for krishna, i need to look at my sadhana more, thankyou again, hey if this is what you call offending, what will you be like when you are being merciful! jaya sri radhe!

Hare Krishna

I heard somewhere that cloning is mentioned in the Qu'ran, and that it warns future generations of its effect, i don't know if cloning is mentioned in the Vedas, if it is it could help you, in your quest.

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I can see what you have written and you are right, there is a chance we might think that Krishna is normal person, so does attachment for Krishna not grow by chanting hare-krishna, i know its does, also we are all on different levels of realisation and also with what you said if we think we are really close to Krishna (artificially) then we can give-up sadhana, thankyou for you advice very much appreciated. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Hare Krishna

don't even try.

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Theists Prabhu, post is wonderful, also Srila Prabhupada says in the purport to Hare-Krishna Maha-Mantra than when chanting we are calling for the energy of krishna Hara (mother).

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ancient_paztriot:

I see it in my speech. (I see it in your speech.. alot of the time)

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I was talking more of joking with Krishna, i know about Sahajiya etc, that is NOT why i started this thread, i feel talking with Krishna in a familiar sort of way can build attachment..is it not?

Hare Krishna

I have a question:

Do you think we can be over-familiar with krishna.

11.2.40

evam-vratah sva-priya-nama-kirtya

jatanurago druta-citta uccaih

hasaty atho roditi rauti gayaty

unmada-van nrtyati loka-bahyah

SYNONYMS

evam--vratah-when one thus engages in the vow to chant and dance; sva-own; priya--very dear; nama--holy name; kirtya--by chanting; jata--in this way develops; anuragah--attachment; druta cittah--with a melted heart; uccaih--loudly; hasati--laughs; atho--also; roditi--cries; rauti--becomes agitated; gayati--chants; unmada-vat--like a madman; nrtyati--dancing; loka-bahyah--without caring for outsiders.

TRANSLATION

By chanting the holy name of the Supreme Lord, one comes to the stage of love of Godhead. Then the devotee is fixed in his vow as an eternal servant of the Lord, and he gradually becomes very much attached to a particular name and form of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. As his heart melts with ecstatic love, he laughs very loudly or cries or shouts. Sometimes he sings and dances like a madman, for he is indifferent to public opinion.

http://vedabase.net/sb/11/2/40

Adi 7.76

harer nama harer nama

harer namaiva kevalam

kalau nasty eva nasty eva

nasty eva gatir anyatha

SYNONYMS

hareh nama - the holy name of the Lord; hareh nama - the holy name of the Lord; hareh nama - the holy name of the Lord; eva - certainly; kevalam - only; kalau - in this Age of Kali; na asti - there is none; eva - certainly; na asti - there is none; eva - certainly; na asti - there is none; eva - certainly; gatih - progress; anyatha - otherwise.

TRANSLATION

"'For spiritual progress in this Age of Kali, there is no alternative, there is no alternative, there is no alternative to the holy name, the holy name, the holy name of the Lord.'

http://caitanyacaritamrta.com/adi/7/76

CC:Adi.Chapter7

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CC Adi 7.62: The leader of all the Mayavadi sannyasis present was named Prakasananda Sarasvati, and after standing up he addressed Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu as follows with great respect.

CC Adi 7.63: "Please come here. Please come here, Your Holiness. Why do You sit in that unclean place? What has caused Your lamentation?"

CC Adi 7.64: <font color="red"> The Lord replied, </font color> "I belong to a lower order of sannyasis. Therefore I do not deserve to sit with you."

CC Adi 7.65: Prakasananda Sarasvati, however, caught Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu personally by the hand and seated Him with great respect in the midst of the assembly.

CC Adi 7.66: Prakasananda Sarasvati then said, "I understand that Your name is Sri Krsna Caitanya. You are a disciple of Sri Kesava Bharati, and therefore You are glorious.

CC Adi 7.67: "You belong to our Sankara-sampradaya and live in our village, Varanasi. Why then do You not associate with us? Why is it that You avoid even seeing us?

CC Adi 7.68: "You are a sannyasi. Why then do You indulge in chanting and dancing, engaging in Your sankirtana movement in the company of fanatics?

CC Adi 7.69: "Meditation and the study of Vedanta are the sole duties of a sannyasi. Why do You abandon these to dance with fanatics?

CC Adi 7.70: "You look as brilliant as if You were Narayan?a Himself. Will You kindly explain the reason that You have adopted the behavior of lower-class people?"

CC Adi 7.71: <font color="red"> Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu replied </font color> to Prakasananda Sarasvati, "My dear sir, kindly hear the reason. <font color="red"> My spiritual master considered Me a fool </font color> , and therefore he chastised Me.

CC Adi 7.72: "'You are a fool,' he said. 'You are not qualified to study Vedanta philosophy, and therefore You must always chant the holy name of Krsna. This is the essence of all mantras, or Vedic hymns.

CC Adi 7.73: "Simply by chanting the holy name of Krsna one can obtain freedom from material existence. Indeed, simply by chanting the Hare Krsna mantra one will be able to see the lotus feet of the Lord.

CC Adi 7.74: "'In this Age of Kali there is no religious principle other than the chanting of the holy name, which is the essence of all Vedic hymns. This is the purport of all scriptures.'

CC Adi 7.75: "After describing the potency of the Hare Krsna maha-mantra, My spiritual master taught Me another verse, advising Me to always keep it within My throat.

CC Adi 7.76: " <font color="red">'For spiritual progress in this Age of Kali, there is no alternative, there is no alternative, there is no alternative to the holy name, the holy name, the holy name of the Lord. </font color> '

CC Adi 7.77: "Since I received this order from My spiritual master, I always chant the holy name, but I thought that by chanting and chanting the holy name I had been bewildered.

CC Adi 7.78: "While chanting the holy name of the Lord in pure ecstasy, I lose myself, and thus I laugh, cry, dance and sing just like a madman.

CC Adi 7.79: "Collecting My patience, therefore, I began to consider that chanting the holy name of Krsna had covered all My spiritual knowledge.

CC Adi 7.80: "I saw that I had become mad by chanting the holy name, and I immediately submitted this at the lotus feet of my spiritual master.

CC Adi 7.81: "'My dear lord, what kind of mantra have you given Me? I have become mad simply by chanting this maha-mantra!

CC Adi 7.82: "'Chanting the holy name in ecstasy causes Me to dance, laugh and cry.' When My spiritual master heard all this, he smiled and then began to speak.

CC Adi 7.83: "'It is the nature of the Hare Krsna maha-mantra that anyone who chants it immediately develops his loving ecstasy for Krsna.

CC Adi 7.84: "'Religiosity, economic development, sense gratification and liberation are known as the four goals of life, but before love of Godhead, the fifth and highest goal, these appear as insignificant as straw in the street.

CC Adi 7.85: "'For a devotee who has actually developed bhava, the pleasure derived from dharma, artha, kama and moks?a appears like a drop in the presence of the sea.

CC Adi 7.86: "'The conclusion of all revealed scriptures is that one should awaken his dormant love of Godhead. You are greatly fortunate to have already done so.

CC Adi 7.87: "'It is a characteristic of love of Godhead that by nature it induces transcendental symptoms in one's body and makes one more and more greedy to achieve the shelter of the lotus feet of the Lord.

CC Adi 7.88: "'When one actually develops love of Godhead, he naturally sometimes cries, sometimes laughs, sometimes chants and sometimes runs here and there just like a madman.

CC Adi 7.89-90: "'Perspiration, trembling, standing on end of one's bodily hairs, tears, faltering voice, fading complexion, madness, melancholy, patience, pride, joy and humility; these are various natural symptoms of ecstatic love of Godhead, which causes a devotee to dance and float in an ocean of transcendental bliss while chanting the Hare Krsna mantra.

CC Adi 7.91: "'It is very good, my dear child, that You have attained the supreme goal of life by developing love of Godhead. Thus You have pleased me very much, and I am very much obliged to You.

CC Adi 7.92: "'My dear child, continue dancing, chanting and performing sankirtana in association with devotees. Furthermore, go out and preach the value of chanting krsna-nama, for by this process You will be able to deliver all fallen souls.'

CC Adi 7.93: "Saying this, My spiritual master taught Me a verse from Srimad-Bhagavatam. It is the essence of all the Bhagavatam's instructions; therefore he recited this verse again and again.

Hare Krishna

I feel when i chant devotees names, are they listening?..so I was thinking that Krishna within the heart (as witness) must know what i am doing, praising devotees is most good, because i feel it humbles me though i am not aware of what effect it does have on me as such, i am sure it must please Lord Krishna.. premsa kaho jaya gauranga!

Hare Krishna

Don't worry if banana's become extict they will still be enjoyed on other planets.

Ps. I love banana milkshakes. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Hare Krishna

I like your comments prabhu, and living entitie Mata, i don't know what started this so-called material fued, but alls good in love and war, premsa kaho jai sri radhe!

Hare Krishna

I know i should really know this, but i get confuced easy..

The Bhagavatam came about how?

This is what i have information of..

Lord Krishna spoke to Lord Brahma--then Brahma to Narada Muni who in turn spoke to Vyasadeva, who then spoke to Sukadeva Goswami, who then spoke to Maharaja Paraskit, in the presence of Suta Goswami (disiple of sukadeva G), also is Sukadeva G disiple of Narada Muni/or Vyasa deva? Please Please somebody explain in so many words this to me. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Hare Krishna

Adminji could you please tranfer this thread to the jokes section /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

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I understand devotees are empowered by krishna, the names of devotees come from the spiritual world, so thats why devotees are called by different krishna names!

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If we chant jaya prahlada maharaja!, who is devotee of Lord Krishna, he resides in the spiritual world, so when we chant the Pure Devotees Name..

I am trying to think what sort devotional effect (potency) it has, also is the name non-different, or is Only Krishna non-different from His name.?

Hare Krishna

<H1 align="center"> <font color="orange"> Jaya Gauranga! </font color> </H1>

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When offering food to Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, does He give the food to Krishna directly? and then when it comes back, does it go through the diciplic succession unto srila prabhupada/or your guru, and the food becomes Maha-Maha Prasadam LOL?

Hare Krishna

Sometimes i see the world as Maya, it is!

But it is also Krishna Mercy, so if we look at it that way, maybe i/we can appreciate our position and execute devotional 'the stick' service, how can a person who has no strenght to walk, walk? He need a stick, and a person who can cure his temp illness, jaya gurudeva!!

Hare Krishna

Yes, i missed that, i remember somebody said to me, that Krishna accepts even a little love you have for Him, at least i can be grateful for the food i recieve. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Hare Krishna

How can you offer somebody food that doesn't require it, i try to prepare food lovingly, but it doesn't seem to work in my mind, i feel Krishna will not accept, it is more mechanical the way i do it, any suggestions?

Hare Krishna

Thats clears it up i feel a little, eternal spiritual with Eternal spiritual, i was thinking in my mind about my body, once i realize my eternal nature, it should be easy to find krishna /images/graemlins/cool.gif the thing is with chanting, you can feel bliss instantly it doesn't take years, though it is just a taste. Its makes me think and wonder that there is something beyond material happiness.

Jaya sri radhe!

Hare Krishna

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I got this which i did not notice..its quite long, oh well..

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Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.9

Nellore, January 7, 1976

Prabhupada:

drsta-srutabhyam yat papam

janann apy atmano 'hitam

karoti bhuyo vivasah

prayascittam atho katham

[sB 6.1.9]

"Maharaja Pariksit said: One may know that sinful activity is injurious for him because he actually sees that a criminal is punished by the government and rebuked by the people in general, and because he hears from the scriptures and learned scholars that one is thrown into hellish condition in the next life for committing sinful acts. Nevertheless, in spite of such knowledge one is forced to commit sins again and again, even after performing acts of atonement. Therefore what is the value of such atonement?"

kvacin nivartate 'bhadrat

kvacic carati tat punah

prayascittam atho 'partham

manye kunjara-saucavat

[sB 6.1.10]

"Maharaja Pariksit said: Sometimes one who is very alert so as not to commit sinful acts is victimized by sinful life again. I therefore consider this process of repeated sinning and atoning to be useless. It is like the bathing of an elephant, for an elephant cleanses itself by taking a full bath but then throws dust over its head and body as soon as it returns to the land."

In every religious system there is a process of atonement. In Christian religion there is a process of atonement called confession. The Pariksit Maharaja is practical politician. He said that... He had also experience that a criminal is punished and again he commits the criminal act. Nowadays we practically see also that government has enacted so many laws against criminality, but criminality is going on without any stoppage. We have got practical experience, as we have explained last night, that in the airport the security checking is going on for everyone, which means that after so much education, every one of us, we are dishonest. This answer is there in the sastra: yasyasti bhaktir bhagavaty akincana sarvair gunais tatra samasate surah. This means that if one is turned to be a pure devotee, then all the good qualities automatically become manifest in him. Harav abhaktasya kuto mahad-guna manorathenasato dhavato bahih [sB 5.18.12]. Whereas a nondevotee, he has no good qualification because he is acting on the mental platform, as such, he will be always attracted by material things.

In this connection I shall recite one historical incident from the Puranas. There was a hunter in Prayag. Prayag you know, in Allahabad. So he was hunting in the forest indiscriminately. So Narada Muni was passing through the jungle and he was very compassionate to see the animals being half-dead and half-killed by the hunter. Narada Muni, being Vaisnava, he was very kind to all living entities, so he went to the hunter whose name was Mrgari. So the Mrgari thought that "This saintly person is coming to me for some deerskin," so he said, "Sir, don't disturb in my business. If you want deerskin I shall give you. Please get out of my activities for the present." Narada Muni said that "I have not come here to ask for deerskin, but I simply ask you that if you want to kill the animals, you kill them total. Why you are killing half?" The hunter said, "What is the difference between killing whole and killing half?"

Actually he had no idea about papa and punya. Actually, those who are animal-hunter, they cannot understand what is spiritual life, what is God, what is sinful life, what is pious life. There is a verse in the Srimad-Bhagavatam quoted by Maharaja Pariksit,

nivrtta-tarsair upagiyamanad

bhavausadhac chrotra-mano-'bhiramat

ka uttamasloka gunanuvadat

puman virajyeta vina pasughnat

[sB 10.1.4]

Unless one is animal hunter, he cannot be away from chanting this Hare Krsna mantra. So Narada Muni said that "If you kill the animal totally it is less sinful than you kill them half." Narada Muni said, "No, if you kill the animal half, it is more sinful than you kill them whole." The hunter said that "From my childhood I have been taught like this by my father. I do not know which is sinful, which is pious." Narada Muni, as Vaisnava, advised him that "You stop this hunting business and I will give you your livelihood." So hunter, having seen a Vaisnava, was little convinced about spiritual life. Then he said that "Sir, if you give me my livelihood, then I can give up my, this business." Then Narada Muni suggested that "You and your wife may come with me. I shall arrange for your livelihood. You give up this business."

So they followed the instruction of Narada Muni, the spiritual master, and they came with Narada Muni and sat down in a place on the bank of the Ganges at Prayag. Narada Muni gave them one tulasi plant, and they sat down near the tulasi plant, and he advised that "Go on chanting Hare Krsna mantra." In the meantime, in the village it was advertised that "The hunter has become a Vaisnava. Let us go and see." So people who were coming to visit, they were bringing... It is the custom still now, India, that when you go to see some Deity or a Vaisnava, sadhu, you bring some..., one must give rice or attar; you give them as contribution. So he thought that Narada Muni was sending the attar, rice, dahl, and everything. So he became confident that he would not die because he is chanting Hare Krsna mantra. In this way he gradually became a perfect Vaisnava because he was chanting under the instruction of the spiritual master and committing no sinful activities. So we being in the disciplic succession of Narada Muni, this Krsna consciousness movement, we are advising the same principle, that "Don't commit sinful activities, and chant Hare Krsna mantra."

So one day Narada Muni asked his friend, Parvata Muni, "I have got a disciple. Let us go and see him." (to translator:) Parvata Muni, his friend. Yes. So when Narada Muni and Parvata Muni was coming to the same hunter who had become now a Vaisnava, so he was going to receive his spiritual master by going forward. So while he was going forward towards his spiritual master to receive him, on the way he was jumping in so many places. So Parvata Muni asked him that "Why you are jumping on your way while coming to us?" The hunter, the Vaisnava, he replied, "Sir, there were so many ants on the ground. Therefore I was trying to avoid trampling them." So Parvata Muni was surprised, that "This man was hunting and killing animal half. Now, because he has become a Vaisnava, he is not prepared to kill even an ant."

So this is the practical instance that if one becomes devotee of the Lord, all the good qualities manifest in his body. Therefore Sukadeva Gosvami replied to Pariksit Maharaja that "You are saying right that simply by atonement, simply by punishment, one cannot become honest." Practically speaking, if you simply enact laws to make people honest, it is impossible to do that. So Sukadeva Gosvami said,

karmana karma-nirharo

na hy atyantika isyate

avidvad adhikaritvat

prayascittam vimarsanam

The Sukadeva Gosvami said, "O son of Vedavyasa..." The Sukadeva Gosvami, the son of Vedavyasa... Sukadeva Gosvami is the son of Vyasadeva. He answered, "My dear king, since acts meant to neutralize impious action are also fruitive, they will not relieve one from the tendency to act fruitively. Persons who subject themselves to the rules and regulation of atonement are not at all intelligent. Indeed, they are in the mode of darkness. Unless is freed from the mode of ignorance, trying to counteract one action through another is useless because this will not uproot one's desire. Thus, even though one may superficially seem pious, he will undoubtedly be prone to act impiously. Therefore real atonement is enlightenment in perfect knowledge, Vedanta, by which one understands the Supreme Absolute Truth." In this verse there is one particular word, vimarsanam. The meaning of this vimarsanam: "full knowledge of Vedanta."

Then Sukadeva Gosvami continued to speak, "My dear king, if a diseased person eats the pure, uncontaminated food prescribed by a physician, he is gradually cured and the infection of disease can no longer touch him. If one follows the regulative principles of knowledge, he gradually progresses toward liberation from material contamination." Therefore in the Vedanta-sutra it is said that athato brahma jijnasa: "Now this life, human form of life, is simply meant for inquiring about Brahman." At the present moment, especially in this Kali-yuga, nobody is interested in brahma-jijnasa. Therefore he prescribes from scripture,

tapasa brahmacaryena

samena ca damena ca

tyagena satya-saucabhyam

yamena niyamena va

[sB 6.1.13]

One should make his life successful by tapasya, austerity, penance. So brahmacarya is one of the item. Tapasya means beginning with brahmacarya, celibacy. Here we have given the meaning of tapasya: "by austerity or voluntary rejection of material enjoyment." Tapasa bramacaryena. So tapasya. I do not like something to do because it is pleasing to me, but for the sake of my advancement of spiritual life I must have it. This is called tapasya. We prescribe four kinds of regulative principle: no illicit sex, no meat-eating, no gambling, no intoxication. In the Western countries these four things are very ordinary means of life. In the Western countries practically cent percent population, they are addicted to these sinful activities. So in our society, anyone who joins, he has to accept these four principles of regulative life.

So brahmacarya, celibacy, sex, prohibition of sex life, especially illicit sex life... Unless one is married, no sex life is allowed. That is called brahmacarya. Tapasya begins with brahmacarya, life of celibacy, or accepting one wife only. That's all. Then samena. Samena, controlling the senses, controlling the mind. Samena damena ca, these two things required. We should not become the servant of the mind; we should become master of the mind. And tyagena. Tyagena. Therefore in the sastra the process of charity is recommended. In the Bhagavad-gita it is also recommended that yajna-dana-tapah-kriya na tyajyam karyam eva tat. Because I have renounced this world, it does not mean I shall give up the process of performing yajna, dana, and tapasya. It is further stressed, yajna-dana-tapah-kriya pavanani manisinah. Even if you think that you are very advanced, still, you should not give up these three processes, means performing yajna, giving in charity, and performing tapasya. "One must then control the mind and senses, give charity, be truthful, clean, and nonviolent, follow the regulative principle, and regularly chant the holy name of the Lord. Thus a sober and faithful person who knows the religious principle is temporarily purified of all sins performed with his body, words, and mind." In the Bhagavad-gita it is also recommended,

yuktahara-viharasya

yukta-cestasya karmana

yukta-svapna..., yukta

yogo bhavati duhkha-ha

In this way, if we practice yoga, bhakti-yoga, then gradually we are elevated to the perfectional stage.

Now, one may say that "If I give up all these thing which is habituated to me, there will be some painful condition." So therefore Bhagavad-gita has recommended to tolerate. Matra sparsas tu kaunteya. We have to tolerate. This is called tapasya. Even though it is painful for me -- it is not at all painful, but those who are trying to practice in the beginning, it may be painful -- so Bhagavan, Krsna, is advising that even it is painful, you must do it and tolerate it. So matra-sparsas tu kaunteya sitosna-sukha-duhkha-dah [bg. 2.14]. The example is given just like we suffer sometimes in scorching heat and very pinching or chilly cold. But we tolerate and do our business. Sometimes to cure our disease, say, for example, fever, we have to swallow very bitter quinine pills. But Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, considering the people in general of this age, Kali-yuga, He knew that people will not be able to even tolerate such little pain for advancing in spiritual life. So Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu therefore recommended that,

harer nama harer nama harer nama iva kevalam

kalau nasty eva nasty eva nasty eva gatir anyatha

[Cc. Adi 17.21]

It is very difficult in this age to follow the principles of brahmacarya, as it is recommended, tapasa brahmacaryena samena damena va [sB 6.1.13]. (to translator:) Yes, go on. Therefore Narada Muni also... Sukadeva Gosvami also advising that "If one is unable to follow the regulative principles, then," he says,

kecit kevalaya bhaktya

vasudeva-parayanah

agham dhunvanti kartsnyena

niharam iva bhaskarah

[sB 6.1.15]

The translation is, "Only a rare person who has adopted complete unalloyed devotional service to Krsna can uproot the weeds of sinful action with no possibility that they will revive." Kevalaya bhaktya. "Simply... He can do the simply by discharging devotional service, just as the sun can immediately dissipate fog by its rays." So by other processes temporarily it can be ceased, but actually from the root of the cause it is not possible to get it out.

In the previous verse Sukadeva Gosvami gave the example that "The dried leaves of creepers beneath a bamboo tree may be completely burned to ashes by a fire, although the creepers may sprout again because the root is still in the ground." You have seen practically. On the field the grass is dried up, and sometimes fire is set and it becomes all burned into ashes. But as soon as there is rainy season, again they sprout and become green. The idea is that you may perform the religious, ritualistic ceremonies, but if you heart is not cleansed, simply by performing these ritualistic ceremonies you'll not be purified. So we have got two desires: pious desire or impious desires. So either you become desirous of doing pious thing or you desirous of doing impious things, the sufferings of this material world will continue.

It is said in the Bhagavad-gita,

urdhvam gacchanti sattva-stha

madhye tisthanti rajasah

jaghanya-guna-vrtti-stha

adho gacchanti tamasah

[bg. 14.18]

So by pious activities you can be elevated to the higher planetary system in the heavenly planet, but that does not mean completion of your suffering of the material world. Krsna has said, therefore, abrahma-bhuvanal lokan punar avartino 'rjuna. Even you are promoted to the Brahmaloka, where the standard of living, duration of life, is very, very big, still, you cannot avoid there these material pains and pleasure, because after finishing your resultant action of pious activities you'll come..., you'll have to come back again in this lower planetary system. Ksine punye punar martya-lokam visanti. After the resultant action of pious activity is finished, you are again dragged within this lower planetary system. Therefore, unless you take to the devotional path, bhakti, because Krsna says, bhaktya mam abhijanati yavan yas casmi tattvatah [bg. 18.55], if you want to understand God, Krsna, then you have to take the only path, bhaktya, bhakti, or devotional service.

So we shall discuss further tomorrow about this bhakti-yoga and today let us end here. Thank you very much. (end)

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.9 -- Nellore, January 7, 1976