Govindaram

<font color="red"> 6. The Relative Potency of the Names "Krishna,Rama," and "Visnu" </font color>

<font color="brown"> The holy name "Rama" is equal to one thousand holy names of Visnu: </font color>

<font color="brown"> [siva to Durga]: </font color> "Lord Siva addressed his wife Durga as Varanana and explained, 'I chant the holy name of Rama, Rama, Rama and thus enjoy this beautiful sound. This holy name of Ramacandra is equal to one thousand names of Lord Visnu.'"

Brhad-Vishnu-sahasra-nama-stotra, 72.335

(from Padma Purana, Uttara-khanda)

[cited: Sri Caitanya-caritamrita Madhya-lila 9.32]

<font color="brown"> The holy name "Krishna" is three times as powerful as the holy name "Rama": </font color>

"'The pious results derived from chanting the thousand holy names of Vishnu three times can be attained by only one repetition of the holy name of Krishna.'"

This verse from the Brahmanda Purana is found in the Laghu-bhagavatamrta (1.354), by Rupa Gosvami. For every three times one chants the holy name of Rama, one can attain the same results simply by chanting the name of Krishna once.

Sri Caitanya-caritamrita Madhya-lila 9.33

<font color="brown"> The relative transcendental value of the names "Vishnu,Rama," and "Krishna": </font color>

It is said in the scriptures that one thousand names of Vishnu are equal to one name of Rama, and three names of Lord Rama are equal to one name of Krishna.

Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.19.6

<font color="red"> 5. The Meaning of the Name "Hare" </font color>

<font color="purple"> "Hare is the vocative form of "Hara," the supreme pleasure energy of the Lord: </font color>

The word Hara is the form of addressing the energy of the Lord, and the words Krishna and Rama are forms of addressing the Lord Himself. Both Krishna and Rama mean "the supreme pleasure,".and Hara is the supreme pleasure energy of the Lord, changed to Hare in the vocative. The supreme pleasure energy of the Lord helps us to reach the Lord.

The Science of Self-Realization

<font color="purple"> Hara is Krishna 's internal potency, Srimati Radharani or Laksmi: </font color>

When we are chanting the maha-mantra, we are actually addressing God and His energy, Hara. Hara is Krishna 's internal potency, Srimati Radharani. Thus the Vaisnavas worship Radha-Krishna, Laksmi-Narayana and Sita-Rama. In the beginning of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra we first address the internal energy of Krishna, Hare. Thus we say, "O Radharani! O Hare! O energy of the Lord!"

Teachings of Lord Kapila, the Son of Devahuti

<font color="purple"> The Hare Krishna mantra is first addressed to the spiritual energy of the Lord, which enlightens one: </font color>

Spiritual enlightenment is possible by the mercy of the spiritual energy of the Lord. The chanting of the Hare Krishna mantra is first addressed to the spiritual energy of the Lord, Hare. This spiritual energy acts when a living entity fully surrenders and accepts his position as an eternal servitor. When a person places himself at the disposal or order of the Supreme Lord, that is called sevonmukha; at that time the spiritual energy gradually reveals the Lord to him.

Srimad-Bhagavatam 4.9.6

<font color="purple"> A Vaisnava worships the energy of the Lord along with the Lord through chanting the maha-mantra: </font color>

Because Krishna and His energy appeared simultaneously, people have generally formed two groups-the saktas and the Vaisnavas-and sometimes there is rivalry between them. Essentially, those who are interested in material enjoyment are Saktas, and those interested in spiritual salvation and attaining the spiritual kingdom are Vaisnavas. Because people are generally interested in material enjoyment, they are interested in worshiping Mayadevi, the energy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Vaisnavas, however, are Suddha-saktas, or pure bhaktas, because the Hare Krishna maha-mantra indicates worship of the Supreme Lord's energy, Hara. A Vaisnava prays to the energy of the Lord for the opportunity to serve the Lord along with His spiritual energy. Thus Vaisnavas all worship such Deities as Radha-Krishna, Sita-Rama, Laksmi-Narayana and Rukmini-Dvarakadhisha, whereas durga-saktas worship the material energy under different names.

Srimad-Bhagavatam 10.2.11-12

<font color="red"> 4. The Meaning of the Name "Rama" </font color>

<font color="blue"> "Rama" means spiritual enjoyment: </font color>

Those who are actually yogis truly enjoy, but how do they enjoy? Ramante yogino 'nante-their enjoyment is unlimited, that unlimited enjoyment is real happiness, and such happiness is spiritual, not material. This is the real meaning of Rama, as in the chant Hare Rama. Rama means enjoyment through spiritual life. Spiritual life is all pleasure, and Krishna is all pleasure.

The Perfection of Yoga

<font color="blue"> "Hare Rama" refers both to Sri Balarama and Lord Ramacandra: </font color>

We may mention an incident that took place between two of our sannyasis while we were preaching the Hare Krishna maha-mantra in Hyderabad. One of them stated that "Hare Rama" refers to Sri Balarama, and the other protested that "Hare Rama" means Lord Rama. Ultimately the controversy came to me, and I gave the decision that if someone says that "Rama" in "Hare Rama" is Lord Ramacandra and someone else says that the "Rama" in "Hare Rama" is Sri Balarama, both are correct because there is no difference between Sri Balarama and Lord Rama... Those who are aware of the vishnu-tattva do not fight over all these details.

Sri Caitanya-caritamrita Adi-lila 5.132

<font color="blue"> [Lord Krishna to Yogamaya]: </font color> The son of Rohini will also be celebrated as Sankarsana because of being sent from the womb of Devaki to the womb of Rohini. He will be called Rama because of His ability to please all the inhabitants of Gokula, and He will be known as Balabhadra because of His extensive physical strength.

These are some of the reasons why Balarama is known as Sankarsana, Balarama or sometimes Rama. In the maha-mantra-Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare-people sometimes object when Rama is accepted as Balarama. But although devotees of Lord Rama may object, they should know that there is no difference between Balarama and Lord Rama. Here Srimad-Bhagavatam clearly states that Balarama is also known as Rama (rameti). Therefore, it is not artificial for us to speak of Lord Balarama as Lord Rama. Jayadeva Goswami also speaks of three Ramas: Parasurama, Raghupati Rama and Balarama. All of them are Ramas.

Srimad-Bhagavatam 10.2.13

<font color="blue"> The word "Rama" refers both to Lord Balarama and to Lord Nityananda: </font color>

In the maha-mantra Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare, the word Rama refers to Balarama. Since Nityananda is an expansion of Balarama, Rama also refers to Lord Nityananda. Thus Hare Krishna, Hare Rama addresses not only Krishna and Balarama but Lord Caitanya and Nityananda as well.

Sri Caitanya-caritamrita Adi-lila Intro.

Ps.Thankyou Pritta Mata, i find reading about Holy names gives me the enthusiasm to chant better and more!

<font color="red"> jaya sri-krishna-caitanya prabhu-nityananda </font color>

<font color="red"> sri-advaita gadadhara srivasadi-gaura-bhakta vrinda <font color="blue"> </font color> <font color="blue"> </font color> </font color>

jaya -all glories; sri-krishna-caitanya -Lord Krishna, who has descended in the age of Kali as Lord Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu; prabhu-nityananda ; Lord Nityananda, the incarnation of Lord Baladeva; sri-advaita -Advaita Acarya, the incarnation of Maha Vishnu; gadadhara -Gadadhara Pandita, the incarnation of Srimati Radharani; Srivasadi -Srivasa Thakura, the incarnation of Narada Muni; gaura-bhakta vrinda -all the followers of these five.

<font color="blue"> All glories to Lord Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Lord Nityananda, Advaita Acarya, Gadadhara Pandita Prabhu, Srivasa Thakura and all those devotees who follow in their footsteps. </font color>

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Hare Krishna

<font color="red"> 3. The Meaning of the Name "Krishna" </font color>

<font color="orange"> The meaning of the name "Krishna": </font color>

The name Krishna means "all-attractive." God attracts everyone; that is the definition of "God." We have seen many pictures of Krishna, and we see that He attracts the cows, calves, birds, beasts, trees, plants, and even the water in Vrndavana. He is attractive to the cowherd boys, to the gopis, to Nanda Maharaja, to the Pandavas, and to all human society. Therefore if any particular name can be given to God, that name is "Krishna".

The Science of Self-Realization

<font color="orange"> Etymology of the word "Krishna": </font color>

'"The word "kris" is the attractive feature of the Lord's existence, and "na" means spiritual pleasure. When the verb "kris" is added to the affix "na" it becomes Krishna, which indicates the Absolute Truth.'"

Mahabharata (Udyoga-parva, 71.4)

[cited: Sri Caitanya-caritamrita Madhya-lila 9.30]

<font color="orange"> The etymology of the name "Krishna": </font color>

If we analyze the nirukti, or semantic derivation, of the word "Krishna," we find that na signifies that He stops the repetition of birth and death, and kris means sattartha, or "existence." (Krishna is the whole of existence.) Also, kris means "attraction," and na means ananda, or "bliss."

Srimad-Bhagavatam 10.8.15

<font color="orange"> The name "Krishna," meaning "all-attractive," can be applied only to God: </font color>

Srila Prabhupada: .. Krishna means "all-attractive."

Bob: Oh, I see.

Srila Prabhupada: Yes. God has no name, but by His qualities we give Him names. If a man is very beautiful, we call him "beautiful." If a man is very intelligent, we call him "wise." So the name is given according to the quality. Because God is all-attractive, the name Krishna can be applied only to Him. Krishna means "all-attractive." It includes everything.

Perfect Questions, Perfect Answers

Hare Krishna

Srila Prabhupada recommended chanting pancha-tattva mantra before each round.

Gauranga dharma is KC, there are many pure devotees, sincerely ask Krishna to guide you.

Also..

Srila Prabhupada:

In the maha-mantra Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare, the word Rama refers to Balarama. Since Nityananda is an expansion of Balarama, Rama also refers to Lord Nityananda. <font color="red"> Thus Hare Krishna, Hare Rama addresses not only Krishna and Balarama but Lord Caitanya and Nityananda as well. </font color>

Sri Caitanya-caritamrita Adi-lila Intro.

Hare Krishna

Krishna is known as Hari 'one who takes away', i feel this is my karma, and not Krishna saying to me, become my devotee, so i am confuced, thats why i asked can we trust Krishna. It was meant as a deep meaning question, not like it sounded. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Hare Krishna

I saw a site which says this helps.. i did this one my self, i'm sure you great devotees could think up more!

1. Matsya--My

2. Kurma--Kichen

3. Varaha--Vacuum

4. Narasimha--Never

5. Vamana--Veered

6. Parasurama--Please

7. Rama--Run

8. Balarama--Behind

9. Krishna--Kumara

10. Kalki--Krishna

My Kichen Vacuum Never Veered, Please Run Behind Kumara Krishna.

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<font color="red"> 2. "Krishna" Is the Principal Name of God </font color>

<font color="orange"> "Krishna" is the principal name of the Supreme Lord: </font color>

In his prayer, the author of Srimad-Bhagavatam first proposes that Lord Sri Krishna is the primeval Lord and that if any transcendental nomenclature for the Absolute Personality of Godhead is to be accepted, it should be the name Krishna, the all-attractive... In Padma Purana it is also stated that of the innumerable names of the Lord, the name of Krishna is the principal one.

Teachings of Lord Caitanya

<font color="orange"> The name "Krishna," indicating the Supreme Lord, is the name of the highest order: </font color>

In the Vedic literature the supreme person is properly claimed to be Krishna. The name "Krishna," indicating the Supreme Lord, is the only truly intelligible name of the highest order. He is the controller of both material and antimaterial energies, and the very word "Krishna" signifies that He is the supreme controller.

Easy Journey to Other Planets

<font color="orange"> According to Vedic knowledge "Krishna" is the supreme name of God: </font color>

When we speak of Krishna we refer to God. There are many names for God throughout the world and throughout the universe, but Krishna is the supreme name according to Vedic knowledge. Therefore Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu recommended the chanting of Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare as the supreme means for realization in this age.

Raja-vidya: The King of Knowledge

<font color="orange"> Because His opulences attract everyone, "Krishna" is the principal name of God: </font color>

God has many names according to His activities, but because He possesses so many opulences and because with these opulences He attracts everyone, He is called Krishna . The Vedic literature asserts that God has many names, but "Krishna" is the principal name.

The Science of Self-Realization

<font color="orange"> Of all the holy names of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the name "Krishna" is the most powerful: </font color>

Srila Sukadeva Goswami has concluded the Nineteenth Chapter of the Tenth Canto of Srimad-Bhagavatam by pointing out five particular excellences of Lord Krishna... The fourth excellence of Lord Krishna's appearance concerns the glories of His name. It is stated in the Vedic literature that by chanting the different names of Lord Vishnu a thousand times, one may be bestowed with the same benefits as by thrice chanting the holy name of Lord Rama. And by chanting the holy name of Lord Krishna only once, one receives the same benefit. In other words, of all the holy names of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, including Vishnu and Rama, the holy name of Krishna is the most powerful. The Vedic literature therefore specifically stresses the chanting of the holy name of Krishna: Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. Lord Caitanya introduced this chanting of the holy name of Krishna in this age, thus making liberation more easily obtainable than in other ages. In other words, Lord Krishna is more excellent than His other incarnations, although all of them are equally the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead

<font color="red"> 1. The Lord Has Innumerable Names (to Indicate Different Functions and Dealings) </font color>

<font color="orange"> Krishna expands Himself into many different names: </font color>

[Lord Caitanya to Svarupa Damodara and Ramananda Raya]:

"My Lord, O Supreme Personality of Godhead, in Your holy name there is all good fortune for the living entity, and therefore You have many names, such as Krishna and Govinda, by which You expand Yourself"...

Sri Caitanya-caritamata Antya-lilA 20.16

<font color="orange"> God has unlimited names, each of which is God: </font color>

Srila Prabhupada: Because God is absolute, His name, His form, and His qualities are also absolute, and they are nondifferent from Him...

Father Emmanuel: But our understanding of the name of God is limited.

Srila Prabhupada: Yes, we are limited, but God is unlimited. And because He is unlimited, or absolute, He has unlimited names, each of which is God. We can understand His names as much as our spiritual understanding is developed.

The Science of Self-Realization

<font color="orange"> The different names of the Supreme Lord indicate different functions: </font color>

There are different names for the Supreme Lord, and these names have different purposes and meanings. For instance, He is known as Paramatma the Supersoul, Brahman the Supreme Absolute, Sristikarta the creator, Narayana the transcendental Lord, Rukminiramana the husband of Rukmini, Gopinatha the enjoyer of the gopis, and Krishna. In this way the Lord has different names, and these names indicate different functions.

Teachings of Lord Caitanya

<font color="orange"> According to people's various desires, Krishna distributes various holy names: </font color>

[Lord Caitanya to Svarupa Damodara and Ramananda Raya]: "Because people vary in their desires, You have distributed various holy names by Your mercy."

Sri Caitanya-caritamata Antya-lila 20.17

<font color="orange"> God has innumerable names, according to His dealings with innumerable devotees: </font color>

Since God is unlimited, His names also must be unlimited. Therefore we cannot settle on one name. For instance, Krishna is sometimes called Yasoda-nandana, the son of mother Yasoda; or Devaki-nandana, the son of Devaki; or Vasudeva-nandana, the son of Vasudeva; or Nanda-nandana, the son of Nanda. Sometimes He is called Partha-sarathi, indicating that He acted as the charioteer of Arjuna, who is sometimes called Partha, the son of Patha.

God has many dealings with His many devotees, and according to those dealings, He is called certain names. Since He has innumerable devotees, and innumerable relations with them, He also has innumerable names.

The Science of Self-Realization

<font color="orange"> One cannot fully realize the Lord merely by understanding the name of the creator: </font color>

Because the Lord is on the absolute platform, there is no difference between the holy name of the Lord and the Supreme Lord Himself. There are different names for the Supreme Lord, and these names have different purposes and meanings.... The aspect of the Supreme Lord as the creator is different from the aspect of the Lord as Narayana. Some of the names of the Lord as the creator are conceived by materialistic men. One cannot fully realize the essence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead by understanding the name of the creator because this material creation is a function of the external energy of the Supreme Lord.

Teachings of Lord Caitanya

Taken from Srila Prabhupada Folio, in the Folders section, Sri Namarita.

Hare Krishna

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Hare Krishna

Thankyou for explanation of plenary, also:

http://srimadbhagavatam.com/1/3

1. Purusa incarnation (Maha-Vishnu)

2. Lord Varaha (Boar incarnation)

3. Maharsi Narada

4. Nara and Narayana

5. Lord Kapila

6. Sage Atri

7. Yajna

8. King Rsabha

9. King Prithu

10. Tortoise incarnation

11. Dhanvantari

12. Woman (beauty of)

13. Lord Nirsimha!

14. Dwarf-brahmana

15. Brigupati (Parasurama)

16. Lord Ramachandra

17. Lord Balarama

18. Lord Krishna

19. Lord Buddha

20. Lord Kalki

http://srimadbhagavatam.com/1/3/28

Translation

<font color="red"> All </font color> of the above-mentioned incarnations are either plenary portions or portions of the plenary portions of the Lord, <font color="red"> but </font color> Lord Sri Krishna is the original Personality of Godhead. All of them appear on planets whenever there is a disturbance created by the atheists. The Lord incarnates to protect the theists.

Hare Krishna

Impediments in KC, are many.

Thats all i have to say.

Hare Krishna

HARI BOL --means chant Holy Names of God.

HARE KRISHNA --remind ppls of Krishna. better than Hi.

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Hare Krishna

My Ego won't let me trust Krishna, it tells me it knows best, more than Krishna!

Ok, so i am thinking that the issue is not really putting our trust in Krishna, but more His representative.

Jaya Prabhupada! Jaya cream of Vedas Srimad Bhagavatam!

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KrsnaTalk 48

The Proof of Your Devotion

by

Swami B.G. Narasingha

QUESTION: I once heard a devotee say that the proof of when your devotion has become real bhakti is when you can take the betel-nut prasadam from the mouth of Krsna and place it in the mouth of Radharani. Is this the actual standard by which we are to measure or understand when we have real bhakti?

ANSWER: If this is how you are to measure real devotion, then you are either dead or dreaming! Dead means that you have already left this mortal world and you are residing in the eternal pastimes of the Supreme Lord, and dreaming means that you are wasting your valuable time with sahajiya thoughts. In this life real bhakti or devotion is never measured in such a way.

<font color="red"> The measure of ones real devotion is taken from the negative feeling and not from the positive. The less you feel that you have devotion, then the more you actually have it. Or the more you feel that you have devotion, then the less you actually have it. One who thinks he is the lowest is actually the highest and one who thinks he is the highest is actually the lowest. </font color>

"I have no love or devotion to Krsna. I am so, unfortunate. If I had even a drop of pure love of Krsna I could not maintain my life in this mundane world for another moment." That should be the tenor of our thought.

The negative feelings of the devotee attract Krsna. In the negative sentiment we find that the devotee has become very meek and humble. Krsna finds this humility very relishable. And where we find the positive feeling, "Yes, I have real devotion" then the devotee becomes puffed up with false pride and Krsna is displeased.

Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu has shown the negative line in His "Siksastakam" prayers. Mahaprabhu says, "Durdaivam idrsam ihajani nanuragah, I have no love for Your holy name."

We can approach the holy name of Krsna formally, but without entering the negative line of thought as Mahaprabhu prays, then we cannot chant the holy name of Krsna from the core of our heart. First admit, "I have no devotion, no love for Krsna." Not only should we feel that we have no love or devotion for Krsna but we should also feel that we have no good qualities whatsoever. We are bankrupt of anything favorable for real devotion. We are the lowest of mankind. Worse! We are the lowest of the low. Then we can come to the platform of humility. Then real devotion begins. Then we can have real bhakti.

But our problem is that we think that we are something special, that we have rights and that Krsna should honor us by showering us with praises, followers, and wealth. We want to be respected and acknowledged for our insignificant service. We want to be called "Prabhu" or "Maharaja" or "Visnupada" or "Prabhupada" or by some other honorific title. We are offended is someone calls us "Dasa." We are offended when we are asked to serve another Vaisnava because we want to be the guru and to be served by everyone. That is our disease. Therefore we cannot chant the holy name of Krsna from the core of our heart and we are simply rotting in this material existence.

We want prestige (an honorable position) but we should know that prestige is our greatest enemy. We should look upon prestige as if it were the stool of a hog and hatefully reject it.

jader pratistha, sukarer vistha,

jano na ki taha 'mayar vaibhava

"Materialistic prestige is as disgusting as the stool of a hog. Do you not know that it is only a mere illusion cast by the potency of Maya?" (Vaisnava Ke?, verse 2)

So give up everything and accept the lowest position. Rupa Gosvami, Sanatana Gosvami, Haridasa Thakura and others were very dear to Lord Chaitanya because they rid their hearts of false prestige. Although they were highly qualified devotees they accepted the lowest position and though of themselves as having no good qualities. They were humble and therefore they were very dear to Lord Caitanya.

trnad api sunicena, taror api sahisnuna

amanina manadena, kirtaniyah sada harih

"One who is humbler than a blade of grass, more forbearing than a tree, who gives due honor to others without desiring it for himself is qualified to always chant the holy name of Krsna."

Haridasa Thakura is recognized by Mahaprabhu as the Namacarya, the perfect example of chanting the holy name of Krsna. Haridasa was a lower cast by birth, but although he was adorned with all good qualities and very dear to Lord Chaitanya he never clamored for position, or to be respected in society.

In the material world no one is satisfied with the body they have or with their position in society. Everyone wants a change of position. Women want the position of men. Men want to become women. Everyone wants recognition and everyone is suffering because they do not accept their natural position given to them by the Supreme Lord.

Everyone wants to change, to move up the so-called ladder of success. I cannot become God so let me become a master (Prabhu) or a sannyasi or let me become a guru, then I will be successful and satisfied. But this is simply Maya's illusion of success. Change this, change that and then you will be happy. Then you will be advanced in Krsna consciousness. This idea should be rejected.

If change comes to us by the desire or the order of the higher Vaisnavas then we should accept change. Otherwise one should learn to be satisfied with whatever service Krsna has given him/her. That is a sign that you have real devotion.

Our only desire should be to serve and we should also desire that any remuneration for our service should simply be more energy for more service - more service and more hankering for more unmotivated service. Let no other desire enter our heart.

Everything for Krsna and nothing for one's self. That should be our attempt. Total self-abnegation to the highest degree and that will take us to a plane of higher life, higher thinking, die to live!

The life of a devotee is based on sacrifice, death of the false ego. As much as there is sacrifice, there is life for a devotee, die to live. If we cannot sacrifice/serve then we might as well never have been born in the human form of life.

The closer we come to Krsna, we may think that He is very far away, but we will not abandon our service. We will go on with our service in separation.

aslisya va .-ratam pinastu mam

adarsanam marma-hatam karotu va

yatha tatha va vidadhattu lampato

mat-prana-nathas tu sa eva naparah

"Krsna may embrace me in love or trample me under His feet. He may break my heart by hiding Himself from me. Let that debauchee do whatever he likes, but He will always be the only Lord of my life."

Mahaprabhu uttered this verse and it is the deep heartfelt sentiments of Srimati Radharani that He is expressing. The greatest devotee of Krsna is Srimati Radharani. She has the greatest love, the greatest devotion to Krsna.

Srila Sridhara Maharaja once said that if Krsna is indifferent to His devotee then that is more intolerable than punishment. The law of love cannot tolerate indifference. Even punishment is more desirable than indifference. In punishment Krsna is closer, but if He is indifferent to us then we may naturally feel that everything is lost or that we are unwanted.

When we are chastised or punished by our master then this is a sign that our master cares for our improvement, but if he is indifferent then that may mean that he is disgusted with us. Therefore a devotee never resents chastisement because he knows it to be the mercy of Krsna.

But the fact is that because Krsna is an autocrat He is sometimes indifferent and we must be ready to tolerate that and not make any demand of Krsna to show us any special attention. Our service must be like that of a slave, without rights or demands. In all circumstance we must go on with our service.

So we will know that our devotion has become real bhakti when we have no demands to make of the Supreme Lord, not even the prayer to become pure so we can serve Him better.

Let whatever karma or suffering is due to us from our previous sinful activities fall on our heads, but let us never deviate from the one pointed desire to serve the Supreme Lord, be it in Heaven or in Hell.

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Hare Krishna

My resolution this brand new year, it to try to serve Srila Prabhupada/vaishnavas more, and control my tongue with all peoples.

May you devotees progress unto the Lotus feet of Govinda.

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Hare Krishna

Thats great post, doesn't though a Uttama Adhikari devotee, only see everybody is serving Krishna..

also i know this may sound dumb, but has anybody been doing something (sence gratification) and then thought with eyes wide open, the realisation of how insignificant it is, its almost like relief from Maya, maybe this is a taster provided by Krishna. I don't know.

HARE KRISHNA

We really are ruled by sudras, i wonder when a Vaishava will be elected..(next 10,000 years), i will be taking a peek from Goloka (heh) to see this site. The only prevention to stop abortion is KC, also animal killing is related to this, this is why when Srila Prabhupada preached/talked with Christians he asked them to stop animal killing.

Hare Krishna

Krsnanatha Prabhu

It is said that Krsna answers all of our prayers and wishes, it's just that sometimes His answer is "No!"

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This is the problem, we should desire things for Krishna service, not for Maya, i am so happy for asscociation on this forum!

Narada Bhakti Sutra

NBS Verse: 84: Anyone who trusts these instructions spoken by Narada and is convinced by them will be blessed with devotion and attain the most dear Lord. Yes, he will attain the most dear Lord.

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Very nice LE Mata, that you did not tell me about this LAST verse of NBS, it made me smile.

Ps.cRimAl Prabhu, i am sorry to hear about your loss of job, i also wonder whats around the corner for me, only Krishna knows /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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