Govindaram

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(1)

<font color="red"> (kiba) jaya jaya goracander aratiko sobha

jahnavi-tata-vane jaga-mana-lobha

jaga-jana-mana-lobha </font color>

(First Refrain)

<font color="red"> gauranger arotik sobha

jaga-jana-mana-lobha </font color>

1) All glories, all glories to the beautiful arati ceremony of Lord Caitanya. This Gaura-arati is taking place in a grove on the banks of the Jahnavi [Ganges] and is attracting the minds of all living entities in the universe.

(2)

<font color="red"> dakhine nitaicand, bame gadadhara

nikate adwaita, srinivasa chatra-dhara </font color>

On Lord Caitanya's right side is Lord Nityananda, and on His left is Sri Gadadhara. Nearby stands Sri Advaita, and Srivasa Thakura is holding an umbrella over Lord Caitanya's head.

(3)

<font color="red"> bosiyache goracand ratna-simhasane

arati koren brahma-adi deva-gane </font color>

Lord Caitanya has sat down on a jeweled throne, and the demigods, headed by Lord Brahma, perform the arati ceremony.

(4)

<font color="red"> narahari-adi kori' camara dhulaya

sanjaya-mukunda-basu-ghos-adi gaya </font color>

Narahari Sarakara and other associates of Lord Caitanya fan Him with camaras, and devotees headed by Sanjaya Pandita, Mukunda Datta, and Vasu Ghosa sing sweet kirtana.

(5)

<font color="red"> sankha baje ghanta baje baje karatala

madhura mrdanga baje parama rasala </font color>

(Second Refrain)

<font color="red"> sankha baje ghanta baje

madhur madhur madhur baje </font color>

Conchshells, bells, and karatalas resound, and the mrdangas play very sweetly. This kirtana music is supremely sweet and relishable to hear.

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<font color="red"> bahu-koti candra jini' vadana ujjvala

gala-dese bana-mala kore jhalamala </font color>

The brilliance of Lord Caitanya's face conquers millions upon millions of moons, and the garland of forest flowers around His neck shines.

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<font color="red"> siva-suka-narada preme gada-gada

bhakativinoda dekhe gorara sampada </font color>

Lord Siva, Sukadeva Gosvami, and Narada Muni are all there, and their voices are choked with the ecstasy of transcendental love. Thus Thakura Bhaktivinoda envisions the glory of Lord Sri Caitanya.

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Haribol Prabhu

First of all, you already have a humble attitude, with what you say in your post, 2nd. Krishna and His name are non-different, so each time you chant, imagine the humbleness coming over you, and think of the privilege, that Krishna is soo kind that He has manifested Himself in His name. How do you feel now?..also spiritual duties never end, so no matter how much you chant it is never enough, think about this.how long have you been serving Maya, you bored yet?

There is no comparison to spiritual life.

I hope this meets you well, hare krishna.

Hare Krishna

I don't think Muslims ever depict pictures of their Prohfit Mohammad, thats why you could't find any!

CC: Madhya-lila 13.119

PURPORT (excert)

PURPORT (excert)

In his Anubhasya, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura describes the ecstasy of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu as follows. After giving up the company of the gopis in Vrindavana, Sri Krishna, the son of Maharaja Nanda, engaged in His pastimes at Dvaraka. When Krishna went to Kuruksetra with His brother and sister and others from Dvaraka, He again met the inhabitants of Vrindavana. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu is radha-bhava-dyuti-suvalita, that is, Krishna Himself assuming the part of Srimati Radharani in order to understand Krishna. Lord Jagannatha-deva is Krishna, and Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu is Srimati Radharani. Caitanya Mahaprabhu's leading Lord Jagannatha toward the Gundica temple corresponded to Srimati Radharani's leading Krishna toward Vrindavana.

Arrival Lecture and Press Conference

San Francisco, July 4, 1970, (Ratha-yatra)

Lord Caitanya, when He appeared, He took sannyasa at the age of twenty-four years, and by His mother's request He was living at Jagannatha Puri. So every year He was taking part in this car festival of Jagannatha. This Jagannatha Deity was established by one King Indradyumna about more than three thousand years ago.

<font color="red"> Lord Krishna and Balarama Meet the Inhabitants of Vrindavana </font color>

http://www.krsnabook.com/ch82.html

In the above pastime Subhadra(Krishna's sister) is not mentioned,why is that?

Come on dear devotees /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

2. To correct a devotee one must be:

(a) non-envious

(b) <font color="red"> desirous to practically assist the devotee in his Krsna consciousness. </font color>

© in a position spiritually or managerially which justifies

and/or necessitates such intervention.

Point No.2 looks good, what do you think Guestji?

Haridham:

"Ofcourse these are for the devotees here and not some Random "hindu" or "hindian" that strolls in."

LOL. I'm not saying anything. (being a Hindu).

I think your Aunti needs a health check.

Testing testing.

I think your Aunti is truthfully, living in the dark ages, i guess its better than the 'hip and happening' Aunties, who tell you to have 'lurve marragies', even Hindu Grannies are getting all 'modern', i blame Tv, thankgod for Harinama.

Haribol!

Shiva Prabhu:

"Bhaktisiddhanta and Srila Prabhupada taught the concept

of Vraja lila being non different then Gaura lila,

In Bhaktivinodas Jaiva Dharma when asked about how to enter

into Krsnas pastimes,the first answer is that Sri Caitanyas

pastimes are Krsnas pastimes, they are non different,so

engaging in the sankirtan lila in the association

of the vaisnavas is considered non different then

Krsnas lila in Vraja,they are one on the transcendental level."

Very nice!

Ps. The last verce you posted, is the same for Vadhi-Bhakti, that when you are liberated, you can remember Krishna. something like that anyway /images/graemlins/smile.gif..i didn't understand everything you said, but i'm sure somebody else did. Haribol.

I was just kidding, i feel flattered that you think, i could be offended /images/graemlins/grin.gif brb. Jaya Jagannatha! Jaya Subhadra!

Devotees ki jai!

i think you could reveal a lot, but are being humble and unkind, explain to me, please, before i post a 'made-up' joke in the Jokes section, (i can feel the urge coming on) Lol. I might actually do a seach in Folio, and see what i come up with, thx again haribol!

is the sripture for this age.

..he should know Krishna/Rama/Balarama, are same person.

http://www.nectarofdevotion.com/15

In this connection, we should be careful about <font color="red"> the so-called siddha-pranali. </font color> The siddha-pranali process is followed by a class of men who are not very authorized and who have manufactured their own way of devotional service. They imagine that they have become associates of the Lord simply by thinking of themselves like that. This external behavior is not at all according to the regulative principles. The so-called siddha-pranali process is followed by the prakrta-sahajiya, a pseudosect of so-called Vaisnavas. In the opinion of Rupa Gosvami, such activities are simply disturbances to the standard way of devotional service.

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Not wanted to start a fight /images/graemlins/wink.gif, but what is meant by the above?

excuse me, but are you actually reading the previous posts, or are you here to just critisize?

Haribol.

<font color="red"> The Life and Legacy of Sripada Madhvacarya Bhagavatapada </font color>

by Jaya Tirtha Charana dasa

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Hare Krishna

I am sorry to say, but i still do not understand much about Lord Jagannatha, could anybody guide me please?

I thought about it after seeing this Purport:

If a devotee accepts Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu as the universal guru and Lord Jagannatha as the Supreme Personality of Godhead Krsna,he is benefited by the combined mercy of Krsna and guru. Madhya 13.18 purport

Guestji:

"People's senses may be imperfect but how is faith and acceptance of the present version of the Gita's authority any less imperfect?"

http://www.asitis.com/16/24.html

TRANSLATION

One should understand what is duty and what is not duty by the regulations of the scriptures. Knowing such rules and regulations, one should act so that he may gradually be elevated.

PURPORT

As stated in the Fifteenth Chapter, all the rules and regulations of the Vedas are meant for knowing Krsna. If one understands Krsna from the Bhagavad-gita and becomes situated in Krsna consciousness, engaging himself in devotional service, he has reached the highest perfection of knowledge offered by the Vedic literature. Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu made this process very easy: He asked people simply to chant Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare and to engage in the devotional service of the Lord and eat the remnants of foodstuff offered to the Deity. One who is directly engaged in all these devotional activities is to be understood as having studied all Vedic literature. He has come to the conclusion perfectly. Of course, for the ordinary persons who are not in Krsna consciousness or who are not engaged in devotional service, what is to be done and what is not to be done must be decided by the injunctions of the Vedas. One should act accordingly, without argument. That is called following the principles of sastra, or scripture. Sastra is without the four principal defects that are visible in the conditioned soul: imperfect senses, the propensity for cheating, certainty of committing mistakes, and certainty of being illusioned. These four principal defects in conditioned life disqualify one from putting forth rules and regulations. Therefore, the rules and regulations as described in the sastra--being above these defects--are <font color="red"> accepted </font color> without alteration by all great saints, acaryas and great souls.

With you imperfect sences and post, i would think you are the one who is wrong my friend. This is why i posted verses from the Srimad Bhagavatam complied by the Incarnation of Lord Krishna..Srila Vyasadeva..who being perfect in knowlegede knew everything about past/present/future.

Haribol

after re-reading your posts, i have understood a little of what you are saying, (sort-of), and what Thiest said is very interesting also, so the Mars poddle landed on the 'shadow of Mars', so if somebody from another planet sent a probe here, you are saying we would not be able to percieve it right? very interesting. What do you think about 'human' moon landings..did they happen?

http://srimadbhagavatam.com/1/1/21

Knowing well that the age of Kali has already begun, we are assembled here in this holy place to hear at great length the transcendental message of Godhead and in this way perform sacrifice.

http://srimadbhagavatam.com/1/1/23

Since Sri Krsna, the Absolute Truth, the master of all mystic powers, has departed for His own abode, please tell us to whom the religious principles have now gone for shelter.

http://srimadbhagavatam.com/1/3/24

Then, in the beginning of Kali-yuga, the Lord will appear as Lord Buddha, the son of Anjana, in the province of Gaya, just for the purpose of deluding those who are envious of the faithful theist.

http://srimadbhagavatam.com/1/3/25

Thereafter, at the conjunction of two yugas, the Lord of the creation will take His birth as the Kalki incarnation and become the son of Vishnu Yasa. At this time the rulers of the earth will have degenerated into plunderers.

Prabhupada Sitting Praying

i think the pictures are being broadcast, from Paramount studies in Area 51. or Area 108. Lol

also who cares!

What life do they expect to find? a ten foot girrafe?

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<font color="red"> How to Develop Offenseless Chanting </font color>

<font color="brown"> Repeated chanting brings one to the stage of offenseless chanting: </font color>

The chanting of the Hare Krishna mantra is recommended even for persons who commit offenses, because if they continue chanting they will gradually chant offenselessly. By chanting the Hare Krishna mantra without offenses, one increases his love for Krishna...

Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura quotes this verse from the Padma Purana:

namaparadha-yukt

namany eva haranty agham

avisranti-prayuktani

tany evartha-karani ca

Even if in the beginning one chants the Hare Krishna mantra with offenses, one will become free from such offenses by chanting again and again. Papa-ksayas ca bhavati smaratam tam ahar-nisam: one becomes free from all sinful reactions if one chants day and night, following the recommendation of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.

- Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.3.24

<font color="brown"> To become free from offenses to the holy name, one must continue to chant constantly and also humbly offer prayers in glorification of the holy name:

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While chanting the holy name of the Lord, one should be careful to avoid ten offenses...

There is no way to atone for any of these offenses. It is therefore recommended that an offender at the feet of the holy name continue to chant the holy name twenty-four hours a day. Constant chanting of the holy name will make one free of offenses, and then he will gradually be elevated to the transcendental platform on which he can chant the pure holy name and thus become a lover of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

It is recommended that even if one commits offenses, one should continue chanting the holy name. In other words, the chanting of the holy name makes one offenseless. In the book Nama-kaumudi it is recommended that if one is an offender at the lotus feet of a Vaisnava, he should submit to that Vaisnava and be excused; similarly, if one is an offender in chanting the holy name, he should submit to the holy name and thus be freed from his offenses...

One should be very humble and meek to offer one's desires and chant prayers composed in glorification of the holy name, such as ayi mukta-kulair upasyamanam and nivrtta-tarsair upagiyamanad [sB 10.1.4]. One should chant such prayers to become free from offenses at the lotus feet of the holy name.

- Srimad-Bhagavatam 7.5.23-24

<font color="brown"> By developing one's service attitude toward the Lord, one can come to chant without offense: </font color>

Caitanya Mahaprabhu has recommended that everyone chant the Hare Krishna mantra just to cleanse the dust from the heart. If the dust of the heart is cleansed away, then one can actually understand the importance of the holy name. For persons who are not inclined to clean the dust from their heart and want to keep things as they are, it is not possible to derive the transcendental result of chanting the Hare Krishna mantra. One should, therefore, be encouraged to develop his service attitude toward the Lord, because this will help him to chant without any offense. And so, under the guidance of a spiritual master, the disciple is trained simultaneously to render service and at the same time to chant the Hare Krishna mantra. As soon as one develops his spontaneous service attitude, he can immediately understand the transcendental nature of the holy names of the maha-mantra.

- The Nectar of Devotion

<font color="brown"> One can chant Hare Krishna offenselessly by developing genuine humility: </font color>

Devahuti shows us the process for understanding transcendental subject matters. It is not by challenge but by submission. The entire bhakti process is a process of submission. That is also Caitanya Mahaprabhu's teaching:

trnad api sunicena

taror api sahisnuna

amanina manadena

kirtaniyah sada harih

[Cc. adi 17.31]

If one is interested in advancing in chanting Hare Krishna, Caitanya Mahaprabhu advises that one be humbler than the grass and more tolerant than the trees. One should not be very proud of his intelligence but should give all respect to others. In this way, one can chant Hare Krishna offenselessly.

- Teachings of Lord Kapila, the Son of Devahuti

<font color="brown"> When one realizes that the holy name and the Lord are identical, he can chant offenselessly: </font color>

When one realizes that the holy name of the Lord is identical with the Supreme Person, he becomes completely eligible to chant the holy name of the Lord.

-Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Adi-lila 7.73

From the Srila Prabhupada folio-base,

'How to develop Offenseless Chanting'

<font color="red"> guru krsna-rupa hana sastrera pramane </font color>

<font color="red"> guru-rupe Krishna krpa karena bhakta-gane </font color>

"According to the deliberate opinion of all revealed scriptures, the spiritual master is nondifferent from Krishna. Lord Krishna in the form of the spiritual master delivers His devotees."

- Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Adi-lila 1.45

<font color="red"> krishna yadi krpa kare kona bhagyavane </font color>

<font color="red"> guru-antaryami-rupe sikhaya apane </font color>

"Krishna is situated in everyone's heart as caitya-guru, the spiritual master within. When He is kind to some fortunate conditioned soul, He personally gives one lessons to progress in devotional service, instructing the person as the Supersoul within and the spiritual master without."

- Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Madhya-lila 22.47

Although formally Srila Narada Rsi is his spiritual master, Srila Vyasadeva is not at all dependent on a spiritual master because in essence he is the spiritual master of everyone else. But because he is doing the work of an acarya, he has taught us by his own conduct that one must have a spiritual master, even though he be God Himself. Lord Sri Krishna, Lord Sri Rama and Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, all incarnations of Godhead, accepted formal spiritual masters, although by Their transcendental nature They were cognizant of all knowledge.

-Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.5.21

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I am downloading the second Link you provided, my connection is slow, so i have to download it (2 hours!) can't wait to watch what it is about. Praise to all vaishnava's!