Why Kundalini Awakening impossible in women?Ramakrishna Paramahamsa

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Kundalini awakening. Additionally, Vivekananda who spoke and wrote extensively

on Raja yoga had female disciples and never did he ever mention that the process

was not suitable for women. These are some points to ponder upon. Best

Regards Ajith"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Namaste

Prabodh, Just to clarify, I was not "angry" at all. This is simply a strong

disagreement and no emotions are involved, as far as I am concerned. > Basic

aim of Sadhana is to obtain > gyana in Adhyatma. You can obtain knowledge by

many means like by > Gyana,Raj,or Bhakti yoga. Kundalini yoga is subclass of

Raja yoga. > Now to say that those who follow Gyana or Bhakti marga will also >

expirence KA is very bold statement. It is not a bold statement but a simple

fact that people following Gyaana Yoga or Bhakti Yoga too can experience

Kundalini awakening. In a book titled "Kundalini Tantra", Swami Satyananda

Saraswati (a disciple of Swami Sivananda) describes various methods of

awakening Kundalini. Raja Yoga is only one of the several methods mentioned. To

say that Kundalini awakening cannot be obtained by those not following Raja Yoga

is definitely incorrect. I personally know people who had Kundalini awakening

thru different methods. One person, for example, was a

devotee of Krishna and had an amazing experience involving an appearance of Lord

Krishna at the time of his Kundalini awakening. The same person had another

amazing experience involving a Bhairava Yogi a few years later, who curiously

knew all about the previous appearance of Krishna and Kundalini awakening and

gave him further experiences by simply touching him! This gentleman definitely

was not making things up, as he was not the one who started the discussion. He

did not say anything about his Kundalini experiences and it was I who first

asked him if he had Kundalini experiences in early 1980s. I saw something in

D-20 and Vimsottari dasa and asked him. THEN ONLY he opened up and narrated his

experiences. Interestingly, the basic experience is the same in people

following different methods, though some details are different. Electric

explosion at the base of spine, feeling of a live electric wire in the back,

ecstasy, bliss, hearing certain sounds,

feeling of being propelled like a rocket, seeing some light, merging with the

light etc etc are common to several experiences I have heard. In fact, there

are cases of Kundalini awakening in all cultures and religions, even among

cultures in which Raja Yoga is not practiced and people don't know about

Kundalini. Kundalini awakening and rise happen when one's ego consciousness

rises above the normal state. One's religion, culture, creed and spiritual path

do not matter. I fully stand by my statement earlier that Kundalini is nothing

but the chid-shakti of one's ego consciousness. Kundalini rise is nothing but

one's ego consciousness reaching higher planes of consciousness. Samadhi is

nothing but the ego consciousness rising to the highest plane of consciousness,

i.e. perfected consciousness that one is non-different from Supreme Brahman. You

can ask the saints who taught you about Kundalini awakening and ask them

directly to comment on my statements. > I was taught to read Ramayana and

Mahabharata is this way. Just try > to understand why Rama asked Laxyamana to

cut Stana-Nak-Kana of > Shoorpankha? or even, why Shiva and Brahma are enemies

of each > other? In YogaVashista, why Indra and Ahilya story comes again and >

again.(I dont exactly remember in which adhya as I read YogaVashista > seven to

eight years back.) I humbly suggest that you should keep your biases to

yourself and not rub them on Maharshi Vasishtha. In "Yoga Vaasishtha",

Vasishtha taught several stories of women who were fully enlightened and

obtained perfect self-knowledge. Please see the examples of queen Lila and

demoness Karkati. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha

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------------------------------- > Dear All

Namaste> > There were

angry and some very angry reactions on this thread. It > seems that my

understanding of Kundalini activation is different > than most of the people in

this thread. My knowledge is stright from > the persons who have experienced KA

and have told me many hidden > things in most logical manner.(Many have doubt

about this but they > are not at fault. I am very poor at expressing what I

know!)> > There seems to be some confusion about the keywords such as >

Moksha,Bhaktimarga and Kundalini. Basic aim of Sadhana is to obtain > gyana in

Adhyatma. You can obtain knowledge by many means like by > Gyana,Raj,or Bhakti

yoga. Kundalini yoga is subclass of Raja yoga. > Now to say that those who

follow Gyana or Bhakti marga will also > expirence KA is very bold statement.

Every marga will give you > ultimate knowledge but every marga will not be

through Kundalini. > The person who has fully

activated Kundalini and person who has > reached ultimate level in Bhakti marga

will have same knowledge to > share. Both will be realized souls and will have

same knowledge. But > there means will be different. Bhakti marga is more

popular as it > is considered to be simple and safe. Most of the Santa are from

> Bhakti marga. So many feel that Bhakti marga Santa must have obtain >

knowledge through Kundalini activation. > > Since Kundalini activation

experience is very difficult to express, > Rishis have written Puranas and

MahaKavyas(Ramayan & Mahabharat) to > explain those hidden secrets with the

help of stories and > allegories. Once such story is of

Kacha-Devayani-Shukracharya. It > ends with the statement that Mantra should

not be given to woman.( > Read Gurucharitra). Shukrachary was forced to teach

Sanjeevini> (Kundalini is temporary death and Sanjeevini is life after

such > death) to his daughter. Shukracharya knew that this vidya should not > be

given to woman but succumbed to the pressures put by his > daughter.

Shukracharya dies in the process and Devayani learns. > Kacha as well learns as

he was in the stomach of Shukracharya. Kacha > comes out in Bramha where as

Devayani makes a strong request for > marriage which Kacha turns down. Devayani

hence curses Kacha that he > will not be able to use this vidya(like

BhargavaRama cursed Karna > in Mahabharata). In turn Kacha says that Devayani

will not marry > Brahman(Brahma Janati eti Brahmana)i.e will not be able to

control > Brahma. Finally Brihaspati curses to all Brahman that if anybody >

teaches Mantra(Kundalini Vidya) to woman he will go Rairaiva Naraka. > > Those

who believe in this story in this way strictly follow it. > Others, who follow

literally, suggest Vratas instead of Mantras to

> women.> > I was taught to read Ramayana and Mahabharata is this way. Just try

> to understand why Rama asked Laxyamana to cut Stana-Nak-Kana of >

Shoorpankha? or even, why Shiva and Brahma are enemies of each > other? In

YogaVashista, why Indra and Ahilya story comes again and > again.(I dont

exactly remember in which adhya as I read YogaVashista > seven to eight years

back.) > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.> > Prabodh Vekhande> Jai Jai

Shankara> Har Har Shankar

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