Mesh - Kanya shadashtak.

August 30, 2005

I want to ask about Mesh - Kanya shadashtak.

What if the boy is Aries (Mesh - moon sign) and girl Virgo (kanya - moon sign).

I have learnt that this calls for a Shadashtak yoga and marriage cannot happen.

Is there something called benefic shadashtak and malefic shadashtak.

Kindly adivse on this and how does one neutralize the negativity of this

relation if the marriage is required.

Regards,

Sachinvedic astrology wrote:

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There are 22 messages in this issue.Topics in this digest:1.

gopal.jethwani (AT) xansa (DOT) comFrom: "karundelhi" 2. Re: Mooladharam

"sanjayprabhakaran" 3. RE: Re: job loss/ is there more to come....//

"Ramesh Gangaramani" 4. Re: Need ExplanationRAJAN NAYYAR 5. Re: job loss/

is there more to come....//"amswamy14" 6. Re: Financial/Business

Problems"John" 7. Star Report: August

30th, 2005 NEW MOON: SEPTEMBER 2, 2005..... >> Mark Kincaid 8/30/05Mark

Kincaid 8. Re: Dear Guruji's"satheeshbabu_v" 9. Re: Effect of Lordships

Exchange"preventina" 10. Delay in Marriage"vivekn74" 11. Please

Evaluate this relationship!!!-- UrgentArch 12. Re: Financial/Business

Problems"discipleofbuddha" 13. Re: Please Evaluate this relationship!!!--

Urgent"Rafal Gendarz" 14. Guru Murthy from BK"Venkatarama Sreelatha"

15. Re: Please Evaluate this relationship!!!-- Urgent"sanjayprabhakaran"

16. Re: Guru Murthy from BK"sanjayprabhakaran" 17. QUIZ RESULT

"Tanvir" 18.

Another quiz"Tanvir" 19. Re: Another quiz"Raghunatha RaoNemani" 20.

marriage"rishi909" 21. Re: Re: Another quiz"Tanvir" 22. Re: Jupiter

Dasha"msupratik"

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1 Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:07:22 -0000"karundelhi" Subject:

gopal.jethwani (AT) xansa (DOT) com http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net/book1-for-CD.pdf__________Message:

2 Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:49:56 -0000"sanjayprabhakaran" Re:

Mooladharam|| Om Gurave Namah ||Namaste Narasimha garu and Friends,> Now, the

obvious question is: "If Sc covers genitals, anus and "4angulas" between them,

why is the middle point of them shown by theend of Scorpio rather than the

middle of Scorpio???"> I wanted to express a point. My understanding is, The

NakshatraLayout can be different from Rashi Chakra, So the mapping

theNakshatra's body parts can be differently placed in the Rashi mandala.There

are many forms the Nakshatra mandala can take, Since Nakshatramandala denotes

the Prakriti, She gives the bodies to all beings. Thisthe fundamental reason

why we have many Diagrams of both living andnon living beings drawn with

Nakshatra. Like,1. Shoola Chakra: Nakshatras drawn in the form of Trishoola.2.

Dimbha Chakra: Nakshatras drawn in the form of Boy.3. Koorma Chakra: Naskatras

forming a Tortoise.4. Simhaasana Chakra: Nakshatras

Forming a Thorne.5. Kaalachakra: Nakshatras forming Kaala Chakra.6. Kumbha

Chakra: Drawn as Pot.7. Sarvotobhadra Chakra: Auspicious Chakra etc etcBut they

can Map differently to Rashi Chakra which is Kaala Purusha.The physical body is

given by Prakrithi (Nakshatra) Which is can bevery different from Kaala Purusha

RAshi Chakra.The Exaltation nakshtra of Sun, Ashwinin Nakshatra can be used

asbasis for mapping on basis of Sun. Zero degree Aries. Like the mappingin

Rashi ChakraThe Exaltation nakshatra of Moon, Krittika Nakshatra ruled by

Brahmacan be used while mapping Moon based. Like in case of

Sarvotobhadrachakra.So Nakhshatra's can be mapped in many way to Rashi chakra

and decidingthe Ayanamsha based on Nakshatra looks fallible to me. My point is

Ayanamsha should be based on Narayana, The representationof Sun is Narayana for

this Loka. The Rashi chakra is based Sun. ManyI think would agree to

this.Warm RegardsSanjay PHare Rama Krishna--- In

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"wrote:> Namaste

Sreenadh,> > Due to the paucity of time, I have to keep it very short

andfocussed for now.> > > clear picture. As per Siva-samhitha-> >

Gudathudhyanguladoordhvam mendrathudhyanguladadha> > Chathurangula

vistharamadharam varthathe samam> > 'Above 2 angulas from anus and below 2

angulas from> > genitals Mooladhara is located. It covers an area of 4> >

angulas' > > Therefore it is clear that, Mooladhara is at the> > middle of Anus

and genitals.> > Some points:> > (1) What I said is that Mooladhara chakra is

situated at the base ofthe spine. That basically points to an area a little

above anus. Sothe above quote is not at all inconsistent with what I

said.> > (2) The idea I vehemently opposed is that Mooladhara chakra is inlinga

(genitals). Even the quote you gave confirms that Mooladharachakra is NOT in

linga (because it is supposed to be "2 angulas"*below* linga)! Thanks for

giving a quote that supports my view. :-)> > (3) Then Pradeep asked: "Why the

Kundalini is depicted as sleepinground the Lingam in Tantra works". I strongly

oppose the idea thatthat Lingam that Kundalini is depicted to be coiling in

Tantra worksis the external and physical lingam (genitals). The quote you

givealso should make it amply clear that the lingam depicted in Tantraworks is

something else and not the bahya lingam that is "2 angulas"above Mooladhara

chakra. Please do give a consideration to theunderstanding I shared of the 3

internal lingas situated in theMooladhara, Anahata and Ajna chakras.> > (4) The

6th, 7th and 8th houses are tricky. Identifying the

exactareas of human anatomy represented by them is not straight-forward.They are

all crowded and cover a small area. The 6th house is supposedto show the lower

abdomen, the 7th house is supposed to show basti(the sack/bladder that contains

various internal organs near genitalsand anus) and the 8th house is supposed

show genitals and anus. If the5th and 6th houses show upper abdomen and lower

abdomen, what exactlydoes basti (7th house) show?> > In my view, 8th house

shows external organs such as anus andgenitals, while the 7th house shows

various internal organs in theirvicinity. Thus, the mooladhara chakra area

outlined in the verse abovedoes fall in basti area in my view.> > However, to

keep the argument simple, let us *assume* that all bodyparts from genitals to

anus are covered by the 8th house (Sc). So, wewill *assume* that Mooladhara

chakra, which is "2 angulas" belowgenitals and "2 angulas" above

anus, ends up being represented by Scorpio.> > Now, the obvious question is: "If

Sc covers genitals, anus and "4angulas" between them, why is the middle point of

them shown by theend of Scorpio rather than the middle of Scorpio???"> > > The

14 Lokas and 14 Chakras> > ---------------------------> > Are we speaking of

astrology or some concepts in> > Bhagavathaam? (When we speak about astrology

we should> > quote astrological texts). PVR just got irritated by> > the word

Linga.> > How do you know whether or not I was irritated and by what word?

Areyou a mind-reader? :-)> > Seriously, I was not irritated by the word Linga

at all.> > I merely took a strong exception to the suggestion that

Mooladharachakra is situated in Linga.> > The external lingam is a symbol that

everybody can understand. Butthe three internal lingas I mentioned

are more subtle and only somecan understand them. If I get lost in the external

symbol, I will onlymiss the true meaning of Linga and the true nature of

Shiva.> > > Pradeep is saying "SANKARA is FINAL,> > fix your mind in HIM". Are

we into some Vishnava-Saiva> > controversy? > > PVR argues like an ISKONist who

putting aside texts> > like Njaneswari and Geetha-rahasyam find trust in> >

'Real'-Geetha, and finds an investment there-in. One> > whose religion comes

from outside and not from> > with-in. (Are you an ISKON devotee?). > > To

answer your irrelevant question, I do not belong to ISKCON.However, there are

several ISKCON devotees on this list and please beconsiderate (I am saying this

as the list admin). It is not acceptableto dismiss any group on this public

list. Please show some restraintin future and do not make such derisive

dismissals of any group

ofpeople. Please show courtesy in a public forum like this.> > When the issue of

Shiva vs Vishnu came up on this list in the pastand some people ruled Shiva

inferior, I was a vehement voice againstthem. You can see it in the archives. I

am a devotee of Lakshmi,Narayana and Shiva and have no biases. To me, all Gods

are variousfaces (with gunas) of the same supreme divinity (with no gunas).> >

> See this> > statement of PVR - "I know for a fact where MY> > Mooladhara

chakra is and ........." I don't think you> > know.> > I sincerely apologize

for that arrogant statement.> > > To PVR I would like to say -"It is not

possible that> > you are not knowing all this even after doing such an> >

in-depth study on astrology. If you are putting wrong> > arguments (that are

against ancient authorities) even> > after knowing all this then you are

doing a sin, which> > is not at all good for a follower of truth". > > I never

claimed having done an "in-depth study on astrology". I amonly a seeker of

truth who has read a little, heard a little, thoughta little, understood a

little and tried to share a little with others.> > If people take me more

seriously than they should and startanalyzing my motives etc, it is their

problem!> > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha>

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vedic astrology, sree nadh wrote:> > To PVR, Pradeep and all

others

who are listening to> > this conversation,> >

======================================================================> > In a

previous mail to PVR I said,> > >The Vyenjanm (Linga of Kalapurusha) is

ascribed to> > Scorpio (210 deg -240 deg).> > >Certainly Mooladharam of

Kalapurusha should come in> > that region, is it not so? > > This statement

says, "Mooladharam should come in the> > 210-240 deg region (as per

Varaha-hora)". Now just see> > how PVR twists that statement.> > > The point

240 deg is the end of genitals and> > beginning of thighs.> > > It is not at

all true that Kala Purusha's mooladhara> > chakra is in his linga (genitals).>

> >To me, Mooladhara chakra of Kala Purusha being at 240> > deg or being at the

end of his > > >genitals is a totally unappealing concept.> > Now just

see what response he gets from Pradeep? > > >Dear Narasimhaji, > > >If thighs

begin after genitals, how do we align or> > locate genitals is going to be an

interesting> > question. Do we have to wait until the end of genitals> >

(depending on the length) to begin thighs!!!> > One gets what he gives!!! That

is to PVR. But please> > stop all these nonsense. Are we here to discuss the> >

length of genitals or to discuss astrology? With due> > respect I would appeal

to Pradeep, dear Pradeep please> > don't use such language. There is one sloka

in> > Yoga-vasishta-> > Nanu tharkkikthamethe nasaneeya prebudhatha> > 'Using

the wrong arguments don't destroy the rising> > of mind towards truth'> > Let

us go back to astrology. For clarificaion let us> > subdivide the subject into

many.> > 1) Does Moola star qualify to

be the fixed reference> > for zodiac division?> > 2) Where Mooladhara is located

in human body?> > 3) Does the Sastharas propose a one to one> > correspondence

of Human-body and Kalapurusha?> > 4) Where should come the Mooladhara of

Kalapurusha?> > 1) Does Moola star qualify to be the fixed reference> > for

zodiac division?>

>-------> >

Moola means root. Root of what? Moola is part of> > zodiac division. So it is

simple to understand that> > Moola means 'The root of zodiac division'. It is

the> > base star, which is, used as a reference for the fixed> > zodiac

division, which is used as a fixed reference> > frame to, assesses the movement

of Sun, Moon, Planets,> > Nodes etc. Moola star is located very near to the> >

center of our galaxy, Milky Way. It

(Moola stellar> > division) is the root from which the whole Milky Way> > sprung

up. See the name of stellar division next to> > Moola star - 'Jyeshta' (Meaning

eldest or first).> > Therefore Moola star well qualifies to be the root of> >

zodiac division. (There is no other stellar division> > with such clear

etymological connotation) Zodiac is> > the fixed reference frame using which

calendar> > phenomena such as movements of planets are assessed.> > Therefore

one should make it clear in his mind that -> > Moola - means 'Root of zodiac

division' > > Jyeshta - means 'The first stellar division'> > 2) Where

Mooladhara is located in human body?> >

------------> > Mooladhara, Swadhishtana etc

are all words related to> > Yoga. Therefore let us look at the Yoga books to

get a> > clear picture. As

per Siva-samhitha-> > Gudathudhyanguladoordhvam mendrathudhyanguladadha> >

Chathurangula vistharamadharam varthathe samam> > 'Above 2 angulas from anus

and below 2 angulas from> > genitals Mooladhara is located. It covers an area

of 4> > angulas' > > Therefore it is clear that, Mooladhara is at the> > middle

of Anus and genitals. Even though Pradeep says> > that 'this is not I have read

anywhere, but just my> > feeling', just see how clearly he puts it. He says,> >

"Identified by Yoga as the 'Root Chakra', this> > Aura-center is located just

below the base of the> > spine, between the anus and sexual organs". Certainly>

> it neither the end of genitals, nor in basti (the area> > just above

genitals). I would suggest PVR to read Yoga> > texts or Upanishads like

Yoga-thathvopanishad,> > Yoga-rajopanishad, Yoga-chaoodamani

upanishad etc> > before making such absurd statements. See this> > statement of

PVR - "I know for a fact where MY> > Mooladhara chakra is and ........." I

don't think you> > know. Not only you are denying all the upanishads on> > this

but also the Yoga system. See that big MY in> > which nothing but ego is

reflected.> > 3) Does the Sastharas propose an one to one> > correspondence of

Human-body and Kalapurusha?>

>----------->

> The whole Indian culture speaks about the one to one> > correspondence of the

Universe and Human body (The one> > to one correspondence of the Macrocosm and

Microcosm).> > PVR also states the same thing - 'The way I see it,> > one's

body is a microcosm of the Brahmanda> > (Universe)'. For astrology universe

means the

zodiac.> > The whole zodiac is nothing but the parts of body of> > Kalapurusha.

Therefore, in astrology we use to> > consider an one to one correspondence of

Kalapurusha > > (Zodiac) and Human body. See this statement in> > Saravali -> >

Kalanarasyavayaval purushanam kalpayel > > Presavakele pushimchopadravaschethi>

> 'Considering the body parts of Kalapurusha, we can> > predict the good/bad

things connected with the body of> > the child, at the time of birth'.> > Both

PVR and Pradeep are well aware of this. As> > Pradeep puts it - "Now we know

Kalapurusha and Human> > body has one to one correspondence as per

Jyothisha-Am> > I wrong?" See his humbleness in putting forward an> > already

known fact.> > 4) Where should come the Mooladhara of Kalapurusha?> >

------------------>

> Now if we accept that 'The Kalapurusha and Human body> > has one to one

correspondence', where should come the> > Mooladhara? As per Siva-samhitha it

should be "Below 2> > angulas from genitals". From the sloka "Kalangani> >

varangamana muro..." of Varaha-hora, it is clear that> > it should come in the

sign Scorpio (Vrischika).> > Because in this sloka the Vyenjanm (Linga/genitals

of> > Kalapurusha) is ascribed to Scorpio (210 deg -240> > deg). Now Mooladharam

is below the genitals of> > Kalapurusha and certainly above thighs (The sign> >

Sagittarius - Dhanu). In the junction of Scorpio and> > Sagittarius we see the

Moola star. Also considering> > the fact that it is the root from which the

whole> > milky way sprung-up, can any objective scholar of> > astrology, deny

the correlation of Moola star and> > Mooladharam? It is a lost

link of zodiac division that> > Hari restores. (Instead of just saying that the

zodiac> > division occurred considering the Mooladhara of> > Kalapurusha, he

mathematically shows as how it is> > done, and reveals the theoretical

foundation as per> > Surya-sidhantha. Shouldn't we appreciate his efforts?)> >

As far as Bhavas are concerned, look at the sloka -> > Moordhasya gala skankdha

hridayodara vasthidesa> > guhyani> > Ooru janu jenkhe padou Bhava kredadya

legnadya> > (Jathakadesam)> > In this sloka 'guhya' (Anus/Linga region) is

ascribed> > to 8th, and Ooru (Thighs) are ascribed to 9th.> > Mooladharam

should come in the junction of this means,> > it should be in the junction of

8th and 9th Bhava.> > (Don't mix-up Kalapurusha and Bhavapurusha)> > To PVR I

would like to say -"It is not possible that> > you are not

knowing all this even after doing such an> > in-depth study on astrology. If you

are putting wrong> > arguments (that are against ancient authorities) even> >

after knowing all this then you are doing a sin, which> > is not at all good

for a follower of truth". > > Now what about PVR's argument that Mooladhara is

at> > the basti area (180 deg) of Kalapurusha? Just look at> > the fact, PVR's

Kalapurusha has got 2 Mooladharas, 2> > Manipoorakas etc. Have we ever seen or

heard of such a> > thing? I would ask why stop at 2, why don't 5, 10,> > 100,

or 1000? As Veda says 'Sahasra seersha> > purusha...', 1000 would be a better

option. OK. Leave> > it. Taking the conversation to a communicable level, I> >

should be better ask, "Dear PVR can you quote your> > authorities?", "Which are

the slokas you base your> > assumptions upon?". If there is

sufficient authority> > to this argument, we should drop our prejudice and> >

accept it as another possibility. We have got 10ths of> > Desa systems, many

methods to find Arooda lagna, many> > methods to fix numbers, many methods for

birth> > rectification, thousands of gods etc, then it is also> > a

possibility. But still if you want me or others to> > accept your argument as

one of the possibilities, then> > you should quote your authorities. Astrology

is a> > branch of knowledge based on ancient advice. Therefore> > the

Kalaprekasika sloka -> > Jyothisham vyevaharam cha prayaschitham chikithsakam>

> Vina sasthrena yo brooyath thamahur brahmakhathakam=== message truncated ===

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August 30, 2005

I am not learned one in this concept but this shad -ashtak is good one from what i have learned .

Learned Gurujis will rectify me and add more knowledge.

Thanks.

Shaziya Khan.Sachin Pande <sachin_pande > wrote:

Dear Gurus,