#3: Marriage Puzzle! - Wife's Analysis (Utpal Pathak)

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Dear Utpal,

 

Thanks for considering my suggestion to go through the WIFE's chart.

I apologize for the pains I have given with 2 charts and 4 options.

However pls wait for the correct answer to be posted on 24th.

 

Thanks for all the pains! I really appreciate your time and effort!

Jeyaram

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vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak

<vedic_pathak> wrote:

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> Dear Jayaram,

> today my mind was not calm in the late morning. I was doing many

things at same time and heistily looked at wife's chart. even after

correcting my self, i had feeling that i may have gone wrong again.

I checked the chart again and found that i have repeated the mistake

in Dasha period.This is turning out to be comedy of errors. I was

reluctant to see wife's chart and when tried to see today in hurry,

i made mistakes.

> Though now i am at peace and looked at the chart & my analysis

again.

> the lady was running ven/jU/ven on 26.1 & Ven/Ju/Moon on 9th may.

both the dates are capable to bestow merraige.

> Moon is also becuse it is placed with UL +A7 lord Mars in D1 & UL

+A7 lord mercury in D9.

> the other analysis of Transit & TP Remains.

> One more point i looked for this time is 'Vivah Sahams' to have a

one more clue. It is in Mesha and lord is again Mars.

> if you see now Transit on 9th May, 7th lord Sun is in Mesha (Where

Vivah saham is placed) & Mars (Lord of Vivah Saham) is in 7th house.

hence 7th lord & Vivah Saham lord has exchanged the places. their

placement is also conducive as both are transiting thro' Kaam

Trikona.

> where as on 26th of Jan, both are placed in 8th & 12 th house in

transit.

> This confirms that though 26.1 jan is a very potent marriage

giving period in terms of Pratyantar period, 9th may seems to be the

most fitting one.

> lastly i'll say that by giving 2 charts & 4 dates you have made

people to do lot of exercise.

> best regards,

> yours

> utpal pathak

>

>

> Utpal Pathak <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> Dear Jayarama,

> I am sorry. I have seen wrong dasha for Wife. I gave my analysis

with some other dasha instead of Vim. i realised it just now.

> I apologise for my lapses in earlier mail.

> 0n 26.1 she was having VEN/JU/VEN & on 9th May VEN/JU/SUN both are.

> Venus can give marriage as karka. guru also Patikarka for females

is capable.

> Pratyantar lords Ven & sun are also both capable. sun is 7th lord

palced with lagnesh in 5th.

> The other analysis are as per previous mails. which is again given

below.

>

> > Test this with Transit

> >

> > 26.1.97 & 9.5.97 --> on 26.1 Venus along with merc in 2nd from

UL but Mars (UL Lord) is in 8th with Rahu & sun (7th lord) is in

12th.

> >

> > on 9.5 Venus is transits his own natal place & 7th from UL, Mars

as UL lord transits 7th house & 7th lord Sun is in 3rd which can be

consider little better than 12th as in case of 26.1 transit.

> >

> > The common transit of Saturn & Guru is good becuse they

combinedly influence 4th house & Karka Venus.

> >

> > So with the above transit analysis, 9.5 seems to be little better

> >

> > Let me use Final tool i.e TP :- both the dates will fall in

the domain of 1996 TP Chart of her.

> >

> > TP Chart of 1996 is on 20.6.1996, at 17.43.49 ---> I think I

hope that i am not affected with Jundice --- Hora lord is Mercury

placed in 7th with 7th lord Venus & lagna lord Mars - what more is

required to convince me that marriage must have happenned in 1997 -

over & abvove, ju is lord of 2nd & UL and placed in UL . in D9 -

Venus (Karka) is in 7th house & Hora lord merc is well placed in

5th. Venus in d9 is also aspected by Lagna cum 2nd lord Shani & 4th

lord Mars.

> >

> > i am tired of seeing marriage everywhere here in TP. what about

our final choice between 26Jan & 9May. let's check final tool

called 'Tithi Ashtottari Dasha'

> >

> > 26.1 falls in Moon & 9.5 falls in Merc period

> >

> > both are capable but I tend to give Merc more marks here becuse--

> >

> > --- my earlier derivation about husband was 9th may and if i say

wife would have married on 26th jan then i would be Inventor of all

together new 'marriage Parakara' i.e can be named as ' Na bhooto Na

Bhavishyati Marriage'

> > --- Merc is a hora lord and placed in 7th with 7th & lagna lord

definately was more potent then moon to give marriage.

> >

> > The Husband & Wife must have got married on 9.5.1997

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > Utpal

>

> though both dates are equally powerfull, i tend to think honestly

that 9th may has more chances.

>

> regards,

> utpal

>

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> Jeyaram <jeyaram009> wrote:

> Dear Utpal,

>

> Many thanks in taking part in the puzzle and sharing your

excellent

> analysis. Although I feel to write comments on your analysis, for

> the benefit of others attempting the puzzle I will reserve the

same

> till 24th.

>

> What don't you try and analyze the wife's chart as well ? It

should

> also point to the same result right ?

>

> Thanks & Respetful Regards

> Jeyaram

>

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> vedic astrology, Utpal Pathak

> <vedic_pathak> wrote:

> > Dear Jayaram,

> >

> > I am trying to answer your puzzle taking only Husband's chart in

> to consideration for avoiding any confusion for my self (Wife

Lagna

> is in Boarder)

> >

> > I am mainly using 2 charts D1 & D9, Vimshottari (Dwi-sapt- for

> curiosity as well as testing), Transit & Tithi Pravesha.

> >

> > I may not be able to provide analysis for all the dates here but

> will try to give in brief.

> >

> > Dates: - 26.1.1997 - Rahu / Sat / Venus 17.8.1998 -

Rahu /

> Mer / Mer

> > 09.5.1997- Rahu / Sat / Moon 22.8.1999 -

> Rahu / Mer / Moon

> >

> > Now to broadly judge which Antardasha can give marriage, i have

> done following analysis -

> >

> > Saturn :- D1 - 4th & A7 lord placed in 5th with Rahu (Mahadasha

> nath), aspects 7th house. it also aspects UL cum 2nd house with

> Graha & rashi drashti. Saturn is also 7th lord from Moon lagna.

> >

> > D9- He is a yogakarka (4th & 5th lord) placed in 2nd house &

more

> importantly exchanged house with 7th cum 2nd lord Mars.

> >

> > Mecury: - D1 - Malefic for Scorpio as a 8th & 11th lord palced

in

> 3rd

> > D9 - Well placed in 9th in house and also placed

in

> 7th from UL aspecting it with Rashi & Graha Drashti.

> >

> > The above factor indicates to me that Though both palnets are

> capable of giving marriage in their own Antara, Saturn is more

> potent to give result in comparison to Budha.

> >

> > The native was running his 30th year in 1997, hence Saturn has

> already played his part in delaying the marriage here. now saturn

i

> his Pratyantar should bestow good results and also it aspects 7th

&

> well placed w.r.t to Mahadasha nath.

> >

> >

> > Test with Transit : - Transit again clarifies what i have

> concluded above. Transit of Saturn & Guru during 1997 was from

5th

> & 3rd respectively (from d1). The main point here which

immediately

> stuck my mind is that 7th house is activated by combined aspect of

> Saturn, Guru & Rahu in transit hence they should bring about the

> marriage in 1997. another point here is that though Ju is

debiliated

> but exchanges house with Saturn during Transit and can give good

> transit results (pl. don't ask me source here. this is my

> understanding)

> >

> > Where as in 1998, The 7th house actiavtion is missing in

transit.

> though Ju aspects 7th lord from 5th.

> >

> > Now the more Tricky question of identifying 26.1.1997 &

> 9.5.1997.

> >

> > 26.1.1997 suggest quickly and in a straight forward way the

> marriage because it comes under period of Rahu / Saturn / Venus.

> Saturn aspects 7th house & Venus is the lord of 7th placed in

lagna

> & aspects 7th house. only problem is that it is placed in 6th

house

> in D9.

> >

> > The other Prantyatar lord Moon (date 9.5.1997) is though badhaka

> is well placed in 10th with UL Jupiter creating Gajakesari yoga.

> Moon is very strongly palced in D9 because it has exchanged house

> with Ju which is a UL & A7 lord in D9.

> >

> >

> > Hence looking at Vimsh. dasha both Pratyantara are capable of

> giving marriage.

> >

> > checked with Transit - On 9th may, Venus is transiting 7th house

> which is own house & lagna lord mars from 10th house over natal

moon.

> >

> > on 26th jan - Venus is transiting 2nd house from UL

> >

> > Transit is also not give me clear judgement. Though i feel 9th

may

> has better transit here becuse in D9 Mars & Sun (7th & 11 th

lords)

> are in exchane during transit on that day.

> >

> > Final try with TP Chart:- I am not discussing TP related to

> 26.1.1997 here. members can check for themselves.

> >

> > TP of 1997 falls on 28.1.1997, at 16.36.23 with Hora lord Venus

> placed in 7th with lagna lord Budha. in D9 Venus as 7th lord

palced

> in UL in 9th house ----------check the Tithi Ashtottari - the date

> 9.5.1997 falls in Ven / Mer period & both are palced in 7th in TP

> Chart.

> >

> > Intrestingly enough, the Period in dwi-saptati is Rahu/Moon/Sat

> >

> > I am quite clear now.

> >

> > My judgment is that the marriage was performed on 9.05.1997

> >

> > I am tired, bye for now

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > utpal

> >

> >

> >

> > Jeyaram <jeyaram009> wrote:Respected List Members,

> >

> > Following is the accurate data of a married couple:

> > HUSBAND:

> > DOB: 20.01.1968

> > TOB: 02:55 HRS (between night of 19th and morning of 20th)

> > POB: Bangalore (Karnataka State, India)

> >

> > WIFE:

> > DOB: 23.06.1974

> > TOB: 22:15 HRS

> > POB: Mysore (Karnataka State, India)

> >

> > Please assume that the birth time rectification is not required.

> >

> > Could you please tell which of the following was their marriage

> > date ?

> > option A) January 26, 1997

> > option B) August 22, 1999

> > option C) May 9, 1997

> > option D) August 17, 1998

> >

> > Your analysis would be a great learning experience for lots of

list

> > members, including me.

> >

> > Request you to use as many versatile tools as possible like

> > Vimshottari Dasa, Rasi Narayana Dasa, Navamsa Narayana Dasa,

Tithi

> > Pravesh Chakra, Dasa Pravesh Chakra, Varga Transit, Astakavarga,

> > Double Transit Principle, Sarvotobhadra Chakra, Sudharshan

Chakra,

> > Prasna etc.

> >

> > The answer to this puzzle will be posted on May 24, 2005.

> >

> > Thanks & Respectful Regards

> > Jeyaram

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