placement of saturn,ketu and rahu from arudha lagna

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dear members and gurus,

 

can anyone tell me what are the results of placement of

 

1) ketu and saturn in 8th house from arudha lagna.i mean is that

placement good.

2)rahu in second from AL

 

regards

ram

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

----------------

Dear Ramapriya,

 

Malefics should be placed in 3rd, 6th, 9th, 11th or

12th from Arudha Lagna to do any good at all.

However 12th from AL shows all those influences/people

we ignore. So Malefics there is fortunate.

 

8th from AL shows those who secretly support/obstruct

you. Malefics there is very bad, whilst benefics there

are good.

 

Benefics should be placed in 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th

10th or 11th todo good.

 

Note that all grahas give protection/gains in 9th and

11th respectively, but i would personally rather be

protected by benefics.

 

Nodes in 2nd gives monetary/poverty problems. This is

for sure if Moon aspects.

 

Sun is to be considered a benefic for dharmic matters,

and a malefic towards evil. Hence consider it a

malefic in these matters, yet its placement in 12th

will not be fortunate, as its hard to ignore the king

without getting into trouble.

 

Hope this helps.

Best wishes, Visti.

 

--- ved_ram <ved_ram wrote:

> dear members and gurus,

>

> can anyone tell me what are the results of placement

> of

>

> 1) ketu and saturn in 8th house from arudha lagna.i

> mean is that

> placement good.

> 2)rahu in second from AL

>

> regards

> ram

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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dear sir,

 

thank you so much for ur explantion .i am not ramapriya but ram.ya!in

one sense i am ramapriya as my name also includes hanuman,who is

obviously rama-priya :-)

 

regards

ram

wrote:

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

> ----------------

> Dear Ramapriya,

>

> Malefics should be placed in 3rd, 6th, 9th, 11th or

> 12th from Arudha Lagna to do any good at all.

> However 12th from AL shows all those influences/people

> we ignore. So Malefics there is fortunate.

>

> 8th from AL shows those who secretly support/obstruct

> you. Malefics there is very bad, whilst benefics there

> are good.

>

> Benefics should be placed in 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th

> 10th or 11th todo good.

>

> Note that all grahas give protection/gains in 9th and

> 11th respectively, but i would personally rather be

> protected by benefics.

>

> Nodes in 2nd gives monetary/poverty problems. This is

> for sure if Moon aspects.

>

> Sun is to be considered a benefic for dharmic matters,

> and a malefic towards evil. Hence consider it a

> malefic in these matters, yet its placement in 12th

> will not be fortunate, as its hard to ignore the king

> without getting into trouble.

>

> Hope this helps.

> Best wishes, Visti.

>

> --- ved_ram <ved_ram> wrote:

> > dear members and gurus,

> >

> > can anyone tell me what are the results of placement

> > of

> >

> > 1) ketu and saturn in 8th house from arudha lagna.i

> > mean is that

> > placement good.

> > 2)rahu in second from AL

> >

> > regards

> > ram

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more

> http://games./

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Jaya Jagannath!

Dear Visti,

 

> Malefics should be placed in 3rd, 6th, 9th, 11th or

> 12th from Arudha Lagna to do any good at all.

> However 12th from AL shows all those influences/people

> we ignore. So Malefics there is fortunate.

>

 

The point of good and bad is quite relative, and I am sure that you know it.

Malefics in 12th from AL also show people we loose, so if Mangal is there, a

loss of enemity with siblings will occur which is not fortunate. Activities

will hardly support one's career and there will be loss of courage,

initiative etc, which is not good. So it all depends. Whether malefics are

good in 3rd and 6th from AL, we should ask Shrila Prabhupad and Swami

Vivekandand:)))You know that benefics in 3rd and 6th from AL give saintly

frame and direction, so I would prefer to have them there. If Fortune is

thought as material progress than malefics there are good.

 

>

> 8th from AL shows those who secretly support/obstruct

> you. Malefics there is very bad, whilst benefics there

> are good.

>

 

All grahas in 8th from AL would damage health on one side, and cause setback

in material rise. All these rules are general

 

>

> Benefics should be placed in 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th

> 10th or 11th todo good.

>

> Note that all grahas give protection/gains in 9th and

> 11th respectively, but i would personally rather be

> protected by benefics.

>

> Nodes in 2nd gives monetary/poverty problems. This is

> for sure if Moon aspects.

>

> Sun is to be considered a benefic for dharmic matters,

> and a malefic towards evil. Hence consider it a

> malefic in these matters, yet its placement in 12th

> will not be fortunate, as its hard to ignore the king

> without getting into trouble.

>

> Hope this helps.

> Best wishes, Visti.

 

With rest, I agree

Best wishes

Zoran

--

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Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre

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Hare Rama Krishna

---------------------

Namaste Visti,

 

Will you please elaborate on the following point you have written?

 

With Warm regards

Dilip Banerjee

 

12th from AL shows all those influences/peoplewe ignore. So Malefics there is fortunate.

 

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Visti Larsen

vedic astrology

Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:19 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] placement of saturn,ketu and rahu from arudha lagna

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah----------------Dear

Ramapriya,Malefics should be placed in 3rd, 6th, 9th, 11th or12th from Arudha

Lagna to do any good at all.However 12th from AL shows all those

influences/peoplewe ignore. So Malefics there is fortunate.8th from AL shows

those who secretly support/obstructyou. Malefics there is very bad, whilst

benefics thereare good.Benefics should be placed in 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th10th

or 11th todo good.Note that all grahas give protection/gains in 9th and11th

respectively, but i would personally rather beprotected by benefics.Nodes in

2nd gives monetary/poverty problems. This isfor sure if Moon aspects.Sun is to

be considered a benefic for dharmic matters,and a malefic towards evil. Hence

consider it amalefic in these matters, yet its placement in 12thwill not be

fortunate, as its hard to ignore the kingwithout getting into trouble.Hope this

helps.Best wishes, Visti.--- ved_ram <ved_ram > wrote:> dear members

and gurus,> > can anyone tell me what are the results of placement> of> > 1)

ketu and saturn in 8th house from arudha lagna.i> mean is that > placement

good.> 2)rahu in second from AL> > regards> ram> > >

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Dear Sanjay ji,PVR ji and Visti,

 

Namaskar !

 

Recently i read from respected guru sanjayji's web

site that,natural malefics positioned 3rd,6th from AL

makes one materially good and bold .

 

The same i have read from respected guruji PVR's book

"vedic astrology-Integrated approach".

 

If that same planet is functionally benefic for that

native what will be the result.,does it make the

native more spritual ?

 

Might be this question is very simple but i can't

proceed my learning without having clear

understanding.So pls put some light on this simple

query.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Regards,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- "Dr.D.Banerjee" <drdilip wrote: >

Hare Rama Krishna

> ---------------------

> Namaste Visti,

>

> Will you please elaborate on the following point

> you have written?

>

> With Warm regards

> Dilip Banerjee

>

> 12th from AL shows all those influences/people

> we ignore. So Malefics there is fortunate.

>

>

> -

> Visti Larsen

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:19 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] placement of

> saturn,ketu and rahu from arudha lagna

>

>

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

> ----------------

> Dear Ramapriya,

>

> Malefics should be placed in 3rd, 6th, 9th, 11th

> or

> 12th from Arudha Lagna to do any good at all.

> However 12th from AL shows all those

> influences/people

> we ignore. So Malefics there is fortunate.

>

> 8th from AL shows those who secretly

> support/obstruct

> you. Malefics there is very bad, whilst benefics

> there

> are good.

>

> Benefics should be placed in 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th,

> 9th

> 10th or 11th todo good.

>

> Note that all grahas give protection/gains in 9th

> and

> 11th respectively, but i would personally rather

> be

> protected by benefics.

>

> Nodes in 2nd gives monetary/poverty problems. This

> is

> for sure if Moon aspects.

>

> Sun is to be considered a benefic for dharmic

> matters,

> and a malefic towards evil. Hence consider it a

> malefic in these matters, yet its placement in

> 12th

> will not be fortunate, as its hard to ignore the

> king

> without getting into trouble.

>

> Hope this helps.

> Best wishes, Visti.

>

> --- ved_ram <ved_ram wrote:

> > dear members and gurus,

> >

> > can anyone tell me what are the results of

> placement

> > of

> >

> > 1) ketu and saturn in 8th house from arudha

> lagna.i

> > mean is that

> > placement good.

> > 2)rahu in second from AL

> >

> > regards

> > ram

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

-------------

Dear Dilip,

Of all the grahas, which would you rather ignore, or

stay away from?

 

Best wishes, Visti.

 

--- "Dr.D.Banerjee" <drdilip wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna

> ---------------------

> Namaste Visti,

>

> Will you please elaborate on the following point

> you have written?

>

> With Warm regards

> Dilip Banerjee

>

> 12th from AL shows all those influences/people

> we ignore. So Malefics there is fortunate.

>

>

> -

> Visti Larsen

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:19 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] placement of

> saturn,ketu and rahu from arudha lagna

>

>

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

> ----------------

> Dear Ramapriya,

>

> Malefics should be placed in 3rd, 6th, 9th, 11th

> or

> 12th from Arudha Lagna to do any good at all.

> However 12th from AL shows all those

> influences/people

> we ignore. So Malefics there is fortunate.

>

> 8th from AL shows those who secretly

> support/obstruct

> you. Malefics there is very bad, whilst benefics

> there

> are good.

>

> Benefics should be placed in 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th,

> 9th

> 10th or 11th todo good.

>

> Note that all grahas give protection/gains in 9th

> and

> 11th respectively, but i would personally rather

> be

> protected by benefics.

>

> Nodes in 2nd gives monetary/poverty problems. This

> is

> for sure if Moon aspects.

>

> Sun is to be considered a benefic for dharmic

> matters,

> and a malefic towards evil. Hence consider it a

> malefic in these matters, yet its placement in

> 12th

> will not be fortunate, as its hard to ignore the

> king

> without getting into trouble.

>

> Hope this helps.

> Best wishes, Visti.

>

> --- ved_ram <ved_ram wrote:

> > dear members and gurus,

> >

> > can anyone tell me what are the results of

> placement

> > of

> >

> > 1) ketu and saturn in 8th house from arudha

> lagna.i

> > mean is that

> > placement good.

> > 2)rahu in second from AL

> >

> > regards

> > ram

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and

> more

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> Krishnaarpanamastu ||

>

>

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>

>

 

 

 

 

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

-----------

Dear Krithi,

I'm almost exhausted by this prime old question;

"Whats the difference between Natural and Functional

Nature?".

 

To get a clearer picture of the answer, stop thinking

in terms of functional benefic/malefic. It will only

hinder your understanding.

 

Natural malefics lording the 10th house will show that

the 10th house activities will find their fortune

through malefic means. I.e. this could be work which

takes alot of anger(Mars) or deception(Rahu) or maybe

even very hard physical labour(Saturn).

 

So how can such a house be benefic if we must succomb

to such tamasic qualities??

 

Meditate on what it means for a graha to lord a

house.. also what happens in case of dual lordship;

Rahu and Saturn lords Aqua, and Ketu & Mars lords

Scorpio.

 

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om gurave namah

------------------------

Dear Hayagriva

The 3 & 6 are houses of Parakrama & Yuddha and it is for us to decide as to

whether we are prepared to eat the fruits of this in this life. Parakrama

enhances the image no doubt, say the image of President Bush has increased

many fold after his parakrama and yuddha against terrorism. But then this

related to the material plane and grants success in this plane. The malefics

in these houses will surely give parakrama and success in war. In the sixth

house, they also make a person corruptible and one who can use force (mars),

fear (saturn) or fraud (rahu) to gain material objectives and success.

Is thisgood for spiritual advancement? Definitely not. So, the spiritualist

will surely renounce these things and prefer Ahimsa in the place of

parakrama and compromise in the face of war as he is looking for success in

spiritual plane. Natural benefics out here shall help him. If the natural

benefic is exalted in Rasi or amsa, it helps us to time the event and

causes.

Some examples that really inspire:

1. Vivekananda: Mercury & Venus are in 6th from AL with venus in exalted

Navamsa showing that this renunciation will happen exactly around the time

of marriage & path shall be Shakti (Venus) patha.

2. Prabhupada: Mercury & venus in 6th from AL with Venus in debility (Bhoga)

& mercury in exaltation (Tyaga-renounce). thus, he married (Venus) and

suffered in this karmic world. When the time came for writing /trnaslation

(Mercury) of the Bhagavatam, he left his family and renounced. The path

chosen was Vaishnava (Mercury).

For more details & examples, see the link 'sixth house from AL' in my

website.

With best wishes

Sanjay Rath

Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com

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"Krithi Hayagriva" <krithi_hayagriva

<vedic astrology>

Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:35 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] placement of saturn,ketu and rahu from arudha

lagna

 

 

Dear Sanjay ji,PVR ji and Visti,

 

Namaskar !

 

Recently i read from respected guru sanjayji's web

site that,natural malefics positioned 3rd,6th from AL

makes one materially good and bold .

 

The same i have read from respected guruji PVR's book

"vedic astrology-Integrated approach".

 

If that same planet is functionally benefic for that

native what will be the result.,does it make the

native more spritual ?

 

Might be this question is very simple but i can't

proceed my learning without having clear

understanding.So pls put some light on this simple

query.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Regards,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- "Dr.D.Banerjee" <drdilip wrote: >

Hare Rama Krishna

> ---------------------

> Namaste Visti,

>

> Will you please elaborate on the following point

> you have written?

>

> With Warm regards

> Dilip Banerjee

>

> 12th from AL shows all those influences/people

> we ignore. So Malefics there is fortunate.

>

>

> -

> Visti Larsen

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:19 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] placement of

> saturn,ketu and rahu from arudha lagna

>

>

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

> ----------------

> Dear Ramapriya,

>

> Malefics should be placed in 3rd, 6th, 9th, 11th

> or

> 12th from Arudha Lagna to do any good at all.

> However 12th from AL shows all those

> influences/people

> we ignore. So Malefics there is fortunate.

>

> 8th from AL shows those who secretly

> support/obstruct

> you. Malefics there is very bad, whilst benefics

> there

> are good.

>

> Benefics should be placed in 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th,

> 9th

> 10th or 11th todo good.

>

> Note that all grahas give protection/gains in 9th

> and

> 11th respectively, but i would personally rather

> be

> protected by benefics.

>

> Nodes in 2nd gives monetary/poverty problems. This

> is

> for sure if Moon aspects.

>

> Sun is to be considered a benefic for dharmic

> matters,

> and a malefic towards evil. Hence consider it a

> malefic in these matters, yet its placement in

> 12th

> will not be fortunate, as its hard to ignore the

> king

> without getting into trouble.

>

> Hope this helps.

> Best wishes, Visti.

>

> --- ved_ram <ved_ram wrote:

> > dear members and gurus,

> >

> > can anyone tell me what are the results of

> placement

> > of

> >

> > 1) ketu and saturn in 8th house from arudha

> lagna.i

> > mean is that

> > placement good.

> > 2)rahu in second from AL

> >

> > regards

> > ram

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and

> more

> http://games./

>

> Archives:

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>

> Group info:

>

vedic astrology/info.html

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> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri

> Krishnaarpanamastu ||

>

>

> Terms of Service.

>

>

 

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Regards,

 

Krthi

 

Ohm Sri Lakshmi Hayavadana Parabrahmane Namaha !

 

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Ohm Sri Lakshmi Hayavadana Parabrahmane Namaha !

 

Dear Sanjay ji and Visti ji,

 

Namaskarams !

 

Thanks for giving a clear idea about natural

malefics.It helps me a lot and i hope it will help me

for further understanding also.

 

Dear Sanjay ji ,PVR ji,Das ji,Visti ji and all

Guruji's,

 

I have an peculiar question about Kala Sarpa Yoga

and Kala Amrita Yoga.After i read about these yogas in

the archive mails of this group and from other

sites(Mr.Guruganga das ji's site),many questions

arised in me.Although i had found some answers i still

have one doubt.,

 

I understood that,

 

Kala Sarpa Yoga(Raghu moving towards Planets ) is

bad and Kala Amrita Yoga(Kethu moving towards Planets

) is good.

 

My question is,

 

Since the first half of kethu is a snake's head

and second part is as human body,

 

How it is said that a snake head(kethu) moving

towards planets(KAY) is good ? Practically thinking it

is bad know.

 

 

Similarly,

 

The first half of raghu is as human head and the

second half is snakes tail,

 

How it is said that a snake tail moving away from

the planets(KSY) is Bad ? Practically thinking it is

good know.

 

I humbly request all the guruji's to put some light on

this.

 

 

Thanks in Advance !

 

Kindly,

 

Krithi Hayagriva

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote: >

> om gurave namah

>

------------------------

> Dear Hayagriva

> The 3 & 6 are houses of Parakrama & Yuddha and it is

> for us to decide as to

> whether we are prepared to eat the fruits of this in

> this life. Parakrama

> enhances the image no doubt, say the image of

> President Bush has increased

> many fold after his parakrama and yuddha against

> terrorism. But then this

> related to the material plane and grants success in

> this plane. The malefics

> in these houses will surely give parakrama and

> success in war. In the sixth

> house, they also make a person corruptible and one

> who can use force (mars),

> fear (saturn) or fraud (rahu) to gain material

> objectives and success.

> Is thisgood for spiritual advancement? Definitely

> not. So, the spiritualist

> will surely renounce these things and prefer Ahimsa

> in the place of

> parakrama and compromise in the face of war as he is

> looking for success in

> spiritual plane. Natural benefics out here shall

> help him. If the natural

> benefic is exalted in Rasi or amsa, it helps us to

> time the event and

> causes.

> Some examples that really inspire:

> 1. Vivekananda: Mercury & Venus are in 6th from AL

> with venus in exalted

> Navamsa showing that this renunciation will happen

> exactly around the time

> of marriage & path shall be Shakti (Venus) patha.

> 2. Prabhupada: Mercury & venus in 6th from AL with

> Venus in debility (Bhoga)

> & mercury in exaltation (Tyaga-renounce). thus, he

> married (Venus) and

> suffered in this karmic world. When the time came

> for writing /trnaslation

> (Mercury) of the Bhagavatam, he left his family and

> renounced. The path

> chosen was Vaishnava (Mercury).

> For more details & examples, see the link 'sixth

> house from AL' in my

> website.

> With best wishes

> Sanjay Rath

> Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com

> Services: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm

> Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/

> SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/

> -

> "Krithi Hayagriva"

> <krithi_hayagriva

> <vedic astrology>

> Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:35 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] placement of

> saturn,ketu and rahu from arudha

> lagna

>

>

> Dear Sanjay ji,PVR ji and Visti,

>

> Namaskar !

>

> Recently i read from respected guru sanjayji's

> web

> site that,natural malefics positioned 3rd,6th from

> AL

> makes one materially good and bold .

>

> The same i have read from respected guruji PVR's

> book

> "vedic astrology-Integrated approach".

>

> If that same planet is functionally benefic for that

> native what will be the result.,does it make the

> native more spritual ?

>

> Might be this question is very simple but i can't

> proceed my learning without having clear

> understanding.So pls put some light on this simple

> query.

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

>

>

--- "Dr.D.Banerjee" <drdilip wrote:

> >

> Hare Rama Krishna

> > ---------------------

> > Namaste Visti,

> >

> > Will you please elaborate on the following point

> > you have written?

> >

> > With Warm regards

> > Dilip Banerjee

> >

> > 12th from AL shows all those influences/people

> > we ignore. So Malefics there is fortunate.

> >

> >

> > -

> > Visti Larsen

> > vedic astrology

> > Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:19 AM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] placement of

> > saturn,ketu and rahu from arudha lagna

> >

> >

> > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

> >

> ----------------

> > Dear Ramapriya,

> >

> > Malefics should be placed in 3rd, 6th, 9th, 11th

> > or

> > 12th from Arudha Lagna to do any good at all.

> > However 12th from AL shows all those

> > influences/people

> > we ignore. So Malefics there is fortunate.

> >

> > 8th from AL shows those who secretly

> > support/obstruct

> > you. Malefics there is very bad, whilst benefics

> > there

> > are good.

> >

> > Benefics should be placed in 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th,

> > 9th

> > 10th or 11th todo good.

> >

> > Note that all grahas give protection/gains in

> 9th

> > and

> > 11th respectively, but i would personally rather

> > be

> > protected by benefics.

> >

> > Nodes in 2nd gives monetary/poverty problems.

> This

> > is

> > for sure if Moon aspects.

> >

> > Sun is to be considered a benefic for dharmic

> > matters,

> > and a malefic towards evil. Hence consider it a

> > malefic in these matters, yet its placement in

> > 12th

> > will not be fortunate, as its hard to ignore the

> > king

> > without getting into trouble.

> >

> > Hope this helps.

> > Best wishes, Visti.

> >

> > --- ved_ram <ved_ram wrote:

> > > dear members and gurus,

> > >

> > > can anyone tell me what are the results of

> > placement

> > > of

> > >

> > > 1) ketu and saturn in 8th house from arudha

> > lagna.i

> > > mean is that

> > > placement good.

> > > 2)rahu in second from AL

> > >

> > > regards

> > > ram

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Krithi,

Neither of Kala Sarpa/Amrita Yoga, are good.

They both supress the mind between the two extremities of Materialism(Rahu) and

Spirituality(Ketu) throughout life, until the Yoga breaks.

 

When the Sarpa breaks, the person has made up their mind and has chosen material way of life.

 

When the Amrita breaks, the person choses god/spirituality.

 

Either way the person is caged until the Yoga breaks.

 

 

As for your question, Rahu is the head of the demon, and also shows a person who

thinks too much with their minds and seeks to please this mind, in various ways.

Hence more debt is aquired and the person becomes reborn once again.

 

Ketu on the other hand is the body/torso of the demon, and doesn't have a head,

where the functions of sight, hearing, smell & taste prevail. Also the it has

no thinking capacity, and hence has no desires!!! There are 8 directions ruled

by the Grahas, and Ketu isn't part of these directions but rules a straight

upwards direction towards Dhruva Loka!

 

Hence Ketu is the path to moksha, and liberation.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

 

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Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:25 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] placement of saturn,ketu and rahu from arudha lagna

Ohm Sri Lakshmi Hayavadana Parabrahmane Namaha !Dear Sanjay ji and Visti ji,

Namaskarams ! Thanks for giving a clear idea about naturalmalefics.It helps me

a lot and i hope it will help mefor further understanding also.Dear Sanjay ji

,PVR ji,Das ji,Visti ji and allGuruji's, I have an peculiar question about

Kala Sarpa Yogaand Kala Amrita Yoga.After i read about these yogas inthe

archive mails of this group and from othersites(Mr.Guruganga das ji's

site),many questionsarised in me.Although i had found some answers i stillhave

one doubt., I understood that, Kala Sarpa Yoga(Raghu moving towards

Planets ) isbad and Kala Amrita Yoga(Kethu moving towards Planets) is good.My

question is, Since the first half of kethu is a snake's headand second

part is as human body, How it is said that a snake head(kethu)

movingtowards planets(KAY) is good ? Practically thinking itis bad know.

Similarly, The first half of raghu is as human head and thesecond half is

snakes tail, How it is said that a snake tail moving away fromthe planets(KSY)

is Bad ? Practically thinking it isgood know.I humbly request all the guruji's

to put some light onthis.Thanks in Advance !Kindly,Krithi Hayagriva--- Sanjay

Rath <srath (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote: > > om gurave

namah>------------------------> Dear

Hayagriva> The 3 & 6 are houses of Parakrama & Yuddha and it is> for us to

decide as to> whether we are prepared to eat the fruits of this in> this life.

Parakrama> enhances the image no doubt, say the image of> President Bush has

increased> many fold after his parakrama and yuddha against> terrorism. But

then this> related to the material plane and grants success in> this plane. The

malefics> in these houses will surely give parakrama and> success in war. In the

sixth> house, they also make a person corruptible and one> who can use force

(mars),> fear (saturn) or fraud (rahu) to gain material> objectives and

success.> Is thisgood for spiritual advancement? Definitely> not. So, the

spiritualist> will surely renounce these things and prefer Ahimsa> in the place

of> parakrama and compromise in the face of war as he is> looking for success

in> spiritual plane. Natural benefics out here shall> help him. If the natural>

benefic is exalted in Rasi or amsa, it helps us to> time the event and> causes.>

Some examples that really inspire:> 1. Vivekananda: Mercury & Venus are in 6th

from AL> with venus in exalted> Navamsa showing that this renunciation will

happen> exactly around the time> of marriage & path shall be Shakti (Venus)

patha.> 2. Prabhupada: Mercury & venus in 6th from AL with> Venus in debility

(Bhoga)> & mercury in exaltation (Tyaga-renounce). thus, he> married (Venus)

and> suffered in this karmic world. When the time came> for writing

/trnaslation> (Mercury) of the Bhagavatam, he left his family and> renounced.

The path> chosen was Vaishnava (Mercury).> For more details & examples, see the

link 'sixth> house from AL' in my> website.> With best wishes> Sanjay Rath> Web:

http://sanjayrath.tripod.com> Services:

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http://jyotishdigest.com/> SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/> ----- Original Message

-----> "Krithi Hayagriva"> <krithi_hayagriva (AT) (DOT) co.in>> To:

<vedic astrology>> Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:35 AM>

Re: [vedic astrology] placement of> saturn,ketu and rahu from arudha>

lagna> > > Dear Sanjay ji,PVR ji and Visti,> > Namaskar !> > Recently i read

from respected guru sanjayji's> web> site that,natural malefics positioned

3rd,6th from> AL> makes one materially good and bold .> > The same i have read

from respected guruji PVR's> book> "vedic astrology-Integrated approach".> > If

that same planet is functionally benefic for that> native what will be the

result.,does it make the> native more spritual ?> > Might be this question

is very simple but i can't> proceed my learning without having clear>

understanding.So pls put some light on this simple> query.> > Thanks in

advance,> > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Dr.D.Banerjee"

<drdilip (AT) sancharnet (DOT) in> wrote:> >> Hare Rama Krishna> > --------------------->

> Namaste Visti,> >> > Will you please elaborate on the following point> > you

have written?> >> > With Warm regards> > Dilip Banerjee> >> > 12th from AL shows

all those influences/people> > we ignore. So Malefics there is fortunate.> >> >>

> -> > Visti Larsen> > To:

vedic astrology> > Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:19 AM> >

Re: [vedic astrology] placement of> > saturn,ketu and rahu from arudha

lagna> >> >> > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah> > >

----------------> > Dear Ramapriya,> >> >

Malefics should be placed in 3rd, 6th, 9th, 11th> > or> > 12th from Arudha

Lagna to do any good at all.> > However 12th from AL shows all those> >

influences/people> > we ignore. So Malefics there is fortunate.> >> > 8th

from AL shows those who secretly> > support/obstruct> > you. Malefics there

is very bad, whilst benefics> > there> > are good.> >> > Benefics should be

placed in 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th,> > 9th> > 10th or 11th todo good.> >> > Note

that all grahas give protection/gains in> 9th> > and> > 11th respectively,

but i would personally rather> > be> > protected by benefics.> >> > Nodes

in 2nd gives monetary/poverty problems.> This> > is> > for sure if Moon

aspects.> >> > Sun is to be considered a benefic for dharmic> > matters,> >

and a malefic towards evil. Hence consider it a> > malefic in these matters,

yet its placement in> > 12th> > will not be fortunate, as its hard to ignore

the> > king> > without getting into trouble.> >> > Hope this helps.> >

Best wishes, Visti.> >> > --- ved_ram <ved_ram > wrote:> > > dear

members and gurus,> > >> > > can anyone tell me what are the results of> >

placement> > > of> > >> > > 1) ketu and saturn in 8th house from arudha>

> lagna.i> > > mean is that> > > placement good.> > > 2)rahu in second

from AL> > >> > > regards> > > ram> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > >

> > > >

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Ohm Sri Lakshmi Hayavadana Parabrahmane Namaha !

 

Dear Visti ji ,

 

Namaskar !

 

Thanks for ur explanation regarding KSY & KAY.

 

Pls let know some classical/modern author book details

which specifically talks about KSY and KAY.

 

I too have a similar doubt as Saraswathi has,

 

What happens if a natural malefic becomes one's

AK ? Does it leads the person towards the path of

sprituality.

 

I read somewhere that Sani,being a natural

malefic,if becomes one's AK means it will increase the

sprituality of that native.Is it true ?

 

Please put some light on this.

 

Thanks and Regards,

 

Krithi Hayagriva

 

 

 

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Dear Krithi,

Yes when the AK is a malefic the person becomes more spiritual.

Zoran has written an article about this:

http://sjvcusa.org/Articles/ak.htm

 

Best wishes, Visti.

 

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vedic astrology

Friday, April 26, 2002 1:32 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] placement of saturn,ketu and rahu from arudha lagna

Ohm Sri Lakshmi Hayavadana Parabrahmane Namaha !Dear Visti ji , Namaskar !

Thanks for ur explanation regarding KSY & KAY.Pls let know some

classical/modern author book detailswhich specifically talks about KSY and

KAY.I too have a similar doubt as Saraswathi has, What happens if a natural

malefic becomes one'sAK ? Does it leads the person towards the path

ofsprituality. I read somewhere that Sani,being a naturalmalefic,if becomes

one's AK means it will increase thesprituality of that native.Is it true

?Please put some light on this.Thanks and Regards,Krithi Hayagriva

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Namasthe Visti,

 

At what age do Kalasarpa and Kala amritha yogas break

?

 

In earlier discussions I learned that if Moon is

joined with Ketu in Kala amritha yoga then it becomes

Maha Sankha yoga and Guruji suggested that the native

can be liberated of the Amritha Yoga if the Moon is

activated.

Can anyone tell me how to do activate the Moon ?

 

Saikumar

 

 

--- Visti Larsen <vishnu wrote:

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namah

>

-----------------------

> Dear Krithi,

> Neither of Kala Sarpa/Amrita Yoga, are good.

> They both supress the mind between the two

> extremities of Materialism(Rahu) and

> Spirituality(Ketu) throughout life, until the Yoga

> breaks.

>

> When the Sarpa breaks, the person has made up their

> mind and has chosen material way of life.

>

> When the Amrita breaks, the person choses

> god/spirituality.

>

> Either way the person is caged until the Yoga

> breaks.

>

>

> As for your question, Rahu is the head of the demon,

> and also shows a person who thinks too much with

> their minds and seeks to please this mind, in

> various ways. Hence more debt is aquired and the

> person becomes reborn once again.

>

> Ketu on the other hand is the body/torso of the

> demon, and doesn't have a head, where the functions

> of sight, hearing, smell & taste prevail. Also the

> it has no thinking capacity, and hence has no

> desires!!! There are 8 directions ruled by the

> Grahas, and Ketu isn't part of these directions but

> rules a straight upwards direction towards Dhruva

> Loka!

>

> Hence Ketu is the path to moksha, and liberation.

>

> Best wishes, Visti.

>

> -

> Krithi Hayagriva

> vedic astrology

> Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:25 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] placement of

> saturn,ketu and rahu from arudha lagna

>

>

> Ohm Sri Lakshmi Hayavadana Parabrahmane Namaha !

>

> Dear Sanjay ji and Visti ji,

>

> Namaskarams !

>

> Thanks for giving a clear idea about natural

> malefics.It helps me a lot and i hope it will help

> me

> for further understanding also.

>

> Dear Sanjay ji ,PVR ji,Das ji,Visti ji and all

> Guruji's,

>

> I have an peculiar question about Kala Sarpa

> Yoga

> and Kala Amrita Yoga.After i read about these

> yogas in

> the archive mails of this group and from other

> sites(Mr.Guruganga das ji's site),many questions

> arised in me.Although i had found some answers i

> still

> have one doubt.,

>

> I understood that,

>

> Kala Sarpa Yoga(Raghu moving towards Planets

> ) is

> bad and Kala Amrita Yoga(Kethu moving towards

> Planets

> ) is good.

>

> My question is,

>

> Since the first half of kethu is a snake's

> head

> and second part is as human body,

>

> How it is said that a snake head(kethu)

> moving

> towards planets(KAY) is good ? Practically

> thinking it

> is bad know.

>

>

> Similarly,

>

> The first half of raghu is as human head and

> the

> second half is snakes tail,

>

> How it is said that a snake tail moving away

> from

> the planets(KSY) is Bad ? Practically thinking it

> is

> good know.

>

> I humbly request all the guruji's to put some

> light on

> this.

>

>

> Thanks in Advance !

>

> Kindly,

>

> Krithi Hayagriva

>

>

--- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote: >

> > om gurave namah

> >

>

>

------------------------

> > Dear Hayagriva

> > The 3 & 6 are houses of Parakrama & Yuddha and

> it is

> > for us to decide as to

> > whether we are prepared to eat the fruits of

> this in

> > this life. Parakrama

> > enhances the image no doubt, say the image of

> > President Bush has increased

> > many fold after his parakrama and yuddha against

> > terrorism. But then this

> > related to the material plane and grants success

> in

> > this plane. The malefics

> > in these houses will surely give parakrama and

> > success in war. In the sixth

> > house, they also make a person corruptible and

> one

> > who can use force (mars),

> > fear (saturn) or fraud (rahu) to gain material

> > objectives and success.

> > Is thisgood for spiritual advancement?

> Definitely

> > not. So, the spiritualist

> > will surely renounce these things and prefer

> Ahimsa

> > in the place of

> > parakrama and compromise in the face of war as

> he is

> > looking for success in

> > spiritual plane. Natural benefics out here shall

> > help him. If the natural

> > benefic is exalted in Rasi or amsa, it helps us

> to

> > time the event and

> > causes.

> > Some examples that really inspire:

> > 1. Vivekananda: Mercury & Venus are in 6th from

> AL

> > with venus in exalted

> > Navamsa showing that this renunciation will

> happen

> > exactly around the time

> > of marriage & path shall be Shakti (Venus)

> patha.

> > 2. Prabhupada: Mercury & venus in 6th from AL

> with

> > Venus in debility (Bhoga)

> > & mercury in exaltation (Tyaga-renounce). thus,

> he

> > married (Venus) and

> > suffered in this karmic world. When the time

> came

> > for writing /trnaslation

> > (Mercury) of the Bhagavatam, he left his family

> and

> > renounced. The path

> > chosen was Vaishnava (Mercury).

> > For more details & examples, see the link 'sixth

> > house from AL' in my

> > website.

> > With best wishes

> > Sanjay Rath

> > Web: http://sanjayrath.tripod.com

> > Services:

> http://sanjayrath.tripod.com/zservices.htm

> > Jyotish Digest: http://jyotishdigest.com/

> > SJVC: http://www.sjvc.org/

> > -

> > "Krithi Hayagriva"

> > <krithi_hayagriva

> > <vedic astrology>

> > Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:35 AM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] placement of

> > saturn,ketu and rahu from arudha

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Dear Saikumar,

 

At what age do Kalasarpa and Kala amritha yogas break?

Visti: Rahu reaches maturity at 42, whilst Ketu does so at 45.

In earlier discussions I learned that if Moon isjoined with Ketu in Kala amritha

yoga then it becomesMaha Sankha yoga and Guruji suggested that the nativecan be

liberated of the Amritha Yoga if the Moon isactivated. Can anyone tell me how

to do activate the Moon ?

 

Visti: Easy, go live with your mother, or spend time with her. If she's not

there, then goto your other mother, the one who will always be there... in

truth they are one and the same.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

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---------------------

Namaste Visti,

 

I would rather prefer to stay away from those planets which give me disease,

misfortune, materialism, desire, mental agony, poverty, unhappiness, useless

struggle, meanness, litigation etc.

 

With warm regards

Dilip Banerjee.

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vedic astrology

Wednesday, April 24, 2002 4:06 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] placement of saturn,ketu and rahu from arudha lagna

Vyam Vysadevaya Namah-------------Dear Dilip,Of

all the grahas, which would you rather ignore, orstay away from?Best wishes,

Visti.--- "Dr.D.Banerjee" <drdilip (AT) sancharnet (DOT) in> wrote:> Hare Rama Krishna>

---------------------> Namaste Visti,> > Will you please elaborate on the

following point> you have written?> > With Warm regards> Dilip Banerjee> > 12th

from AL shows all those influences/people> we ignore. So Malefics there is

fortunate.> > > - > Visti Larsen > To:

vedic astrology > Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:19 AM>

Re: [vedic astrology] placement of> saturn,ketu and rahu from arudha

lagna> > > Vyam Vysadevaya Namah>

----------------> Dear Ramapriya,> >

Malefics should be placed in 3rd, 6th, 9th, 11th> or> 12th from Arudha Lagna

to do any good at all.> However 12th from AL shows all those>

influences/people> we ignore. So Malefics there is fortunate.> > 8th from

AL shows those who secretly> support/obstruct> you. Malefics there is very

bad, whilst benefics> there> are good.> > Benefics should be placed in 2nd,

4th, 5th, 8th,> 9th> 10th or 11th todo good.> > Note that all grahas give

protection/gains in 9th> and> 11th respectively, but i would personally

rather> be> protected by benefics.> > Nodes in 2nd gives monetary/poverty

problems. This> is> for sure if Moon aspects.> > Sun is to be considered a

benefic for dharmic> matters,> and a malefic towards evil. Hence consider it

a> malefic in these matters, yet its placement in> 12th> will not be

fortunate, as its hard to ignore the> king> without getting into trouble.> >

Hope this helps.> Best wishes, Visti.> > --- ved_ram <ved_ram >

wrote:> > dear members and gurus,> > > > can anyone tell me what are the

results of> placement> > of> > > > 1) ketu and saturn in 8th house from

arudha> lagna.i> > mean is that > > placement good.> > 2)rahu in second

from AL> > > > regards> > ram> > > > > > > > >

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