The original version of 'Happy Xmas the War is Over' by John Lennon profoundly mentions Hare Krishna


Go on youtube and the originak historical Xmas song is had to find

The oiginal background lyrics was 'Hare Krishna' and NOT happy xmas

the song also originally ends with = you can have Hare Krishna if you want'

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That way heavy.

Don't get the point though about the original saying Hare Krishna.

I did notice that they sang merry CHRISTmas and not merry Xmas.

Merry Christ-mass
to all,
and a happy new year.

A hare new year to you too Theist.

Same with Lennon's, "Give Peace A Chance", Hare Krishna has been deleted on most versions at youtube. Thanks Yoko.

Really? Is this true? She would have the legal rights to do it I guess.

Reminds me of that movie Siddhartha. The original ended with a Kirtan being chanted through a spindly forest, like Vrndaban, by six or seven skinny men with sikhs and big smiles wandering amongst the trees.

Later versions had that scene deleted.

This is the BBT. Fighting at court against devotees who are kicked out of ISKCON when they use pics of Prabhupada's books on their websites or have a Bhagavad-gita for download.

John Lennon was not a Vaishnava, right, but his gesture to include the Holy Name in some of his songs was his service, his start in spiritual life. When some rascals manipulate his songs and delete Hare Krishna what are the BBT lawyers doing - right, keep quiet.

This is clearly a case of cheating, something like book change. Since the BBT has obviously adopted this practice of book change, they might feel not the right people to protest when Hare Krishna is removed from Lennon's songs?

I am surprised by Alan Clark’s ignorance of such an historical song as Happy Xmas, the War is Over by John Lennon.. For a man who is at School of Film, Music and Media University of Hertfordshire, in the UK, you would think he would know better.
Lennon/Ono


<CENTER></CENTER>BY: ALAN CLARK <CENTER></CENTER>

Nov 30, HATFIELD, ENGLAND, UK (SUN) — I am writing in response to <A href="http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/11-08/editorials3678.htm" target=_blank>the article by Gauragopala dasa about John Lennon's song, 'Happy Christmas War is Over'.


<CENTER>FULL STORY</CENTER>
John Lennon - 'Happy Xmas and Hare Rama if you want'.‏

I am surprised by Alan Clark’s ignorance of such an historical song as Happy Xmas, the War is Over by John Lennon.. For a man who is at School of Film, Music and Media University of Hertfordshire, in the UK, you would think he would know better.

I have the Album in front of me http://lyrics.rockmagic.net/lyrics/l..._1975.html#s11

And further more the slow background chorus in the background originally alternates between Hare Krishna if you want and war is over if you want.

History should remember that His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada lived with John and Yoko at the Tittenhurst Mansion in 1969. As far as Yoko Ono is concerned, age has nothing to do with it, I’m old myself. Nevertheless, she was kind enough to host the devotees and Prabhupada however, for some reason, all her historical accounts barely mentions the influence of ‘Hare Krishna’ on John.

Also, her constant complaining to the devotees was vindictive - John was really getting into the mood of Hare Krishna. Did you know he used to sing different tunes of Hare Krishna on the piano for hours?

As the saying goes, history is never recognised while it’s happening and non was taped but some photos were taken.

You cannot change history.
John Lennon lyrics
Album: Shaved Fish [1975]

Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

Happy Xmas Yoko
Happy Xmas John

So this is Xmas
And what have you done
Another year over
And a new one just begun
And so this is Xmas
I home you have fun
The near and the dear one
The old and the young

A very Merry Xmas
And a happy New Year
Let's hope it's a good one
Without any fear

And, so this is Xmas
For weak and for strong
For rich and the poor ones
The world is so wrong
And so happy Xmas
For black and for white
For yellow and red ones
Let's stop all the fight

A very Merry Xmas
And a happy New Year
Let's hope it's a good one
Without any fear

And, so this is Xmas
And what have we done
Another year over
And a new one just begun
And, so happy Xmas
We hope you have fun
The near and the dear one
The old and the young

A very Merry Xmas
And a happy New Year
Let's hope it's a good one
Without any fear

Hare Rama, if you want it, e_t_c.
Hare Rama, now
e_t_c.
Happy Xmas

I have the Album in front of me http://lyrics.rockmagic.net/lyrics/l..._1975.html#s11

John Lennon, George Harrison, Patti Boyd, Yoko Ono and devotees
enjoying prasadam at John Lennon's Tiittenhurst Park estate, 1969

Hare Krishna, from you fallen old servant Gauragopala dasa ACBSP

Speaking of changing lyrics who the hell are you to complain when you replace Christmas with an xmas. Did John write happy xmas? You tell me as you "have the album right in front of you."

Album: Shaved Fish [1975] Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

I only wrote what I read in front of me now finishing with Hare Rama, if you want it, e_t_c.
Hare Rama, now
e_t_c.
Happy Xmas
http://lyrics.rockmagic.net/lyrics/l..._1975.html#s11 note this link has mysteriously been deleted, probably by Ono

I see your point, historically if we look at this history that many of us lived through in the 60s as teenagers, the Beatles years was enhanced the hippie movement of so called peace and love made more populr by the fame of the beatles. This also inclues the famouse 'peace' saying of Hare Krishna.

Also, 'Xmas' to Lennon was NEVER about Jesus, it was about his peace and free love tripthat he got off Ginsberg, Leary and Kesey.

Also 'Hare Krishna' to Lennon also was NEVER about Krsna, the 'saying' of Hare Krsna was also another way to say 'peace man' that he got from Ginberg and later on, it's real meaning from Prabhupada that frankly, he did not like and Yoko detested, she never liked the devotees, that's an historical fact and frankly John was never into the real undertanding of Hare Krishna either. What he prpaged in song was what he thought Krsna was and not Krsna PERSONALLY.

The word 'Krishna' was IN, was cool, was the rave of the Grateful Dead, Alan Ginsburg and the Beatles (I am the Walrus) It was another way of saying - 'peace man and chicks, letsd have free love, drop acid and eat brown rice'

It was never about the real Krishna until they met Prabhupada and learnt singing and chanting Hare Krishna was not about all their nonsense peace love, anti-Vietnam war and brown rice peace trip

It's the same with the word Xmas as opposed to the real Christ- mass. That song is NOT about Jesus.

Lennons trip was trying to build the Kingdom of God without God (the IMAGINE song) · Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

I think you should listen to the song again, Are you suggesting someone replaced John's original happy xmas with happy Christmas?

If there once was Hare Rama in the background I have no idea but that is not my point.

"God is a Concept by which
we measure our pain
I'll say it again
God is a Concept by which
we measure our pain
I don't believe in magic
I don't believe in I-ching
I don't believe in Bible
I don't believe in Tarot
I don't believe in Hitler
I don't believe in Jesus
I don't believe in Kennedy
I don't believe in Buddha
I don't believe in Mantra
I don't believe in Gita
I don't believe in Yoga
I don't believe in Kings
I don't believe in Elvis
I don't believe in Zimmerman
I don't believe in Beatles
I just believe in me...and that reality

The dream is over
What can I say?
the Dream is Over
Yesterday
I was the Dreamweaver
But now I'm reborn
I was the Walrus
But now I'm John
and so dear friends
you'll just have to carry on
The Dream is over."

I hardly think John Lennon is rolling around in his grave right now because someone got rid of 'Hare Krishna' in a few of his songs. I don't see why it's that big a deal to you guys.

If you're an atheist this might be right from your honoured point of view.
Since John included Hare Krsna in a couple of his songs he surely wasn't an atheist. For him it is therefore rather a tragedy how they garbled, mangled his songs.

No, I thought you did not like the word xmas because it does not represent what christmas (christ mass) really is?

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Originally Posted by Deathless I hardly think John Lennon is rolling around in his grave right now because someone got rid of 'Hare Krishna' in a few of his songs. I don't see why it's that big a deal to you guys.

Agree, Although this is how I humbly saw the history I lived through --

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This also includes the famous 'peace' saying of Hare Krishna that came from both Prabhupada and Ginsberg in 1966.

Also, 'Xmas' to Lennon was NEVER about Jesus, it was about his peace and free love trip that he got off Ginsberg, Leary and Kesey.

Also, 'Hare Krishna' to Lennon was NEVER about Krsna originally at the beginning of 1967, it was just another word for 'peace'. The 'saying' of Hare Krsna was just another way to say 'peace man' Turn on, tune in, drop out" and was part of a counterculture phrase originally coined by Timothy Leary and Alan Ginsburg in the 1960s.<o:p></o:p>
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Not really, this was started simply because I listened to an old version of happy xmas and could hear not just Hare Rama, but Hare Krishna CLEARLY as well, then hear the modern version where its now simply not there.

Sorry but this wasn't my quote, I said the opposite, John Lennon is for sure rolling around in his grave. He couldn't perform any other spiritual activity except include Hare Krsna in his songs and this is being destroyed by a bunch of atheists. It is intolerable and should be battled against by all means.

Apologies to you suchandra prabhu, I have corrected that quote

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=pHrVG06U5MA

The above version has both 'war is over' and 'Hare Krishna' deleted - very sweet version though by Celine Dion

Hare Krsna, merry christmas or merry Krishna!!

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=I-NRriHlLUk

Exactly true. But you posted the supposed real original lyrics of Lennon's song and put xmas where he said Christmas in a post criticizing the changing of lyrics.

No, he did - Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

Forget about it sheesh.