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ROYAL PATRONAGE OF THE THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY ? ANGLICAN AND EPISCOPALIAN SUPPORT OF THE 'JESUS SEMINAR' GROUP'S BORG AND CROSSIN
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Subject: ROYAL PATRONAGE OF THE THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY
> ? ANGLICAN AND EPISCOPALIAN SUPPORT OF THE 'JESUS
> SEMINAR' GROUP'S BORG AND CROSSIN
>
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> THE BELOW IS ABOUT OCCULT THEOSOPHY AND MASONRY IN
> THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND, THE AMERICAN EPISCOPAL
> CHURCH, AND HOW THESE ARE BACKING THE
> DE-CONSTRUCTIONIST 'GERMAN HIGHER CRITICISM'
> RELATED SCHOOL OF THE "JESUS SEMINAR" GROUP, AND THE
> ANTI-JUDEO-CATHOLIC CAMPAIGN OF MARCUS BORG AND J.D.
> CROSSIN.
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> FOR DECADES I HAVE SAID THAT THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND
> AND ITS AMERICAN OFF-SPRING, THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH,
> WERE ESOTERICALLY INVOLVED IN SPREADING THEOSOPHICAL
> AND MASONIC TEACHINGS IN AMERICA AND AROUND THE
> WORLD. I REPORTED THAT AT THE 'JESUS SEMINAR'
> 'JESUS AT 2000' CONFERENCE IN OREGON USA, I
> PERSONALLY WITNESSED MARCUS BORG, JOHN CROSSIN AND
> OTHER 'JESUS SEMINAR' LEADERS AND MEMBERS PROMOTING
> THEOSOPHICAL AND MASONIC-RELATED NEO-GNOSTIC NEW AGE
> TEACHINGS UNDER THE GUISE OF SO-CALLED 'HISTORICAL
> JESUS RESEARCH'. THE 'BACK-ROOM' AND OFF-THE-RECORD
> CONVERSATION OF THE 'SCHOLARS' AND 'RELIGIOUS
> LEADERS' AT THIS EVENT WAS PURELY 'NEW AGE' AND
> INCLUDED CREDULOUS SPECULATION ABOUT JESUS BEING
> BURIED IN INDIA (THE AHMADDIYA MUSLIM FRAUD), JESUS
> VISITING TIBET (NICHOLAS NOTOVITCH), JESUS BEING A
> THERAVADIN BUDDHIST (KERSTEN AND GRUBER), JESUS
> BEING A 'ESSENE' OF THE (BOGUS MODERN) ESSENE CULT
> (SZEKELY), JESUS BEING A SUFI (SUFI AND EGYPTIAN
> MASONRY), JESUS BEING A HINDU MONIST (BESANT'S
> THEOSOPHY), JESUS BEING A WOMAN, OR GAY, JESUS BEING
> A TANTRIC SOCIAL ANARCHIST WHO WOULD MARRY HIS GAY
> DISCIPLES, JESUS BEING THE LOVER OF MARY MAGDALENE,
> AD NAUSEAM. IT WAS BASICALLY OK TO SAY ANYTHING
> ABOUT JESUS AS LONG AS IT WAS NEW AGE, AN ESOTERIC
> TEACHING, AND NOT ANY KIND OF TRADITIONAL
> JUDEO-CATHOLIC 'DOCTRINE' REGARDING A TRANSCENDENT
> PERSONAL GOD OR A PERSONAL INCARNATING SAVIOR. IN
> FACT, JESUS WAS PORTRAYED AS A TEACHER OF HINDU
> IMPERSONALISM OR BUDDHIST VOIDISM BY ALL THE 'JESUS
> SEMINAR' MEMBERS THAT I HEARD SPEAK. BORG ET AL
> OUT-RIGHT DENIED THE EXISTENCE OF ANY TRANSCENDENT
> OR PERSONAL GOD, OR UNSEEN SPIRITUAL REALM AND
> MIRACLES, AND REDUCED JESUS TO A PUPPET MOUTH-PIECE
> FOR THEIR OWN SOCIAL AGENDA. THE WHOLE CONFERENCE
> WAS MOSTLY AN INTELLECTUAL ORGY OF
> ANTI-JUDEO-CATHOLICISM FOCUSED ON DECONSTRUCTING
> CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHRISTIANITY AS A POLITICALLY
> MOTIVATED INVENTION OF PAUL AND HIS CO-CONSPIRATORS.
> DISDAIN FOR THE GOD OF THE OLD TESTAMENT AND JEWS
> WAS PROMINENT, AS PARTICIPANTS BARELY SUCCEEDED AT
> MASKING OUT-RIGHT ANTI-SEMITISM AND HOSTILITY TO
> BIBLICAL MONOTHEISM.
>
> THEOSOPHY / ESOTERIC ATHEISM AS 'HIGHER WISDOM'
> PERVADED THE WHOLE THING AND OOZED FROM IT DESPITE
> THE PARTICIPANTS' ATTEMPTS TO PORTRAY THEMSELVES AS
> 'OBJECTIVE' RESEARCHISTS. RADICAL FEMINISM AND
> FEMINIST 'THEOLOGY' AND HATRED OF IMAGINED
> MONOTHEISTIC PATRIARCHY WAS THE UNDERLYING CURRENT
> OF THE EVENT. I WAITED THROUGH THE WHOLE THING TO
> HEAR ONE WORD ABOUT JESUS CHRIST THE GREAT PHYSICIAN
> RELATIVE TO THE HEALING SERAPH CULT AMONG THE JEWS
> AND ASCLEPIUS AMONG THE GREEKS (BALADEVA AS THE AYUR
> VEDIC CARAKA) , AND THE SUBJECT WAS NEVER TREATED
> ONCE ! SO OBVIOUSLY THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT INTERESTED
> IN THE REAL GENEALOGY OF JESUS CHRIST, WHO LIKE THE
> PLATONIC ASCLEPIUS WAS WORSHIPED AS THE SON OF GOD
> (HELI-OS / ELI-YAHU) 'TRUE GOD AND TRUE MAN'. THEY
> ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN THE JESUS OF THEIR OWN
> INVENTION, THE ONE OF THEIR FRAUDULENT 'SEARCH FOR
> THE HISTORICAL JESUS' THAT THEY CAN PRESS INTO THE
> SERVICE OF THEIR OWN ANTI-JUDEO-CATHOLIC
> SOCIO-POLITICAL AGENDA. THE SEMINAR WAS BILLED AS
> THE TOP EXPOSITION OF THE MOST RECENT FINDINGS
> REGARDING THE 'HISTORICAL JESUS'. TO OMIT ANY
> DISCUSSION OF ASCLEPIUS IN THE MATTER OF THE
> GENEALOGY OF JESUS IS AN INEXCUSABLE AND ASTOUNDING
> OMISSION. EITHER THE WHOLE 'JESUS SEMINAR'
> DISCIPLINE HAS UTTERLY FAILED TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT
> THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT AREA OF EVIDENCE FOR THE
> GENEALOGY OF JESUS WORSHIP, OR THE JESUS SEMINAR
> MEMBERS WELL KNOW ABOUT THE ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF
> EVIDENCE FOR THE JESUS-ASCLEPIUS-CARAKA CONNECTION,
> AND THEY ARE PURPOSELY HIDING AND OBSCURING IT.
> ASCLEPIUS MUST BE THE STARTING PLACE FOR ANY SERIOUS
> DISCUSSION OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE WORSHIP OF JESUS
> CHRIST. HERE IS THE MOST CONCISE COLLECTION OF
> LITERARY AND INSCRIPTIONAL EVIDENCE REGARDING
> ASCLEPIUS (BUT NONE OF HIS CONNECTIONS) AVAILABLE.
> Asclepius: Collection and Interpretation of the
> Testimonies/Volumes I and II in One
> by Emma J. Edelstein, Ludwig Edelstein
> (Contributor), Gary Ferngren (Introduction)
>
> a.. Paperback: 747 pages ; Dimensions (in inches):
> 2.01 x 9.97 x 7.03
> a.. Publisher: Johns Hopkins Univ Pr; Reprint
> edition (February 1998)
> a.. ISBN: 0801857694
>
> Ingram
> Legendary ancient Greek physician and healer god
> Asclepius was considered the foremost antagonist of
> Christ. Providing an overview of all facets of the
> Asclepius phenomenon, this work, first published in
> two volumes in 1945, comprises a unique collection
> of the literary references and inscriptions in
> ancient texts to Asclepius, his life, his deeds,
> cult, temples--with extended analysis thereof.
>
>
> IN EITHER CASE, THEY ARE DOING A GREAT DISSERVICE TO
> HUMANITY BY PROMOTING THEIR NON-ASCLEPIUS OR
> ANTI-ASCLEPIUS CENSORIOUS NON-SENSE AS THE TRUTH
> ABOUT THE 'HISTORICAL JESUS'. I SEARCHED BORG'S
> EGROUP SITE FOR REFERENCES TO ANY SERIOUS DISCUSSION
> ABOUT ASCLEPIUS AND THERE WAS NONE ! THEN WHEN I
> TRIED TO RAISE THE ISSUE OF ASCLEPIUS IN BORG'S
> 'JESUS SEMINAR' 'SEARCH FOR THE HISTORICAL JESUS'
> EGROUP, I WAS BANNED !!! WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OF?
> THE TRUTH IS WHAT THEY ARE AFRAID OF. THEY REFUSE
> TO EVEN ADMIT THE EVIDENCE INTO THEIR COURT !!! AT
> THE END OF THEIR 'JESUS AT 2000' UNIVERSITY
> CONFERENCE, I STOOD UP AND CHALLENGED THEM ALL WITH
> A SERIES OF QUESTIONS, WHICH NONE OF THEM COULD OR
> WOULD ADDRESS. HOWEVER, AFTERWARDS THE GREAT
> HISTORIAN OF RELIGION HUSTON SMITH CAME UP TO ME AND
> GAVE ME A HUG AND EXPRESSED INTEREST IN MY
> QUESTIONS. I GAVE HIM SOME NOTES ON MY RESEARCH,
> AND LATER RECEIVED A NICE PERSONAL LETTER FROM HIM,
> IN WHICH HE EXPRESSED APPRECIATION FOR MY IDEAS.
>
>
> OF COURSE WHEN I REPORTED TO MY CONTACTS THAT THE
> 'JESUS AT 2000' UNIVERSITY SEMINAR WAS JUST ANOTHER
> EXERCISE IN COVERED THEOSOPHY, PEOPLE FOUND IT HARD
> TO BELIEVE. AT GREAT COST, THE SEMINAR WAS CARRIED
> LIVE BY SATELLITE TO COLLEGE AND UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES
> ALL OVER THE USA. THIS ENORMOUSLY EXPENSIVE
> COVERAGE WAS SPONSORED BY THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH !
> THE UNIVERSITY RECEIVED A LARGE ENDOWMENT FOR A
> CHAIR FOR BORG TO HEADQUARTER HIS 'SEARCH FOR THE
> HISTORICAL JESUS' MISSION, DISGUISED AS REAL
> OBJECTIVE SCHOLARSHIP, AT THE UNIVERSITY THERE. SO
> LIKE THE ROYAL UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF THEOSOPHY (SEE
> BELOW) AND THE UNIVERSITY DEPARTMENTS HIJACKED BY
> THEOSOPHY IN CALIFORNIA AND AUSTRALIA AND
> GOD-KNOWS-ELSEWHERE, NOW OREGON HAS ITS OWN COVERED
> THEOSOPHICAL PROPAGANDA DEPARTMENT OPERATING OUT OF
> A MAJOR UNIVERSITY. THEOSOPHY BY ANY OTHER NAME IS
> STILL THEOSOPHY. WHAT ASTOUNDS ME IS THAT ANY
> UNIVERSITY CAN ALLOW THE TEACHING OF H.P.
> BLAVATSKY'S FRAUDULENT 'MAHATMAS' AS FACT IN THEIR
> CURRICULUM. TEACHING RELIGION OR ABOUT REAL
> RELIGIONS IS NOT THE SAME AS PRESENTING THE CREATION
> OF A RELIGIOUS CON-ARTIST AS SOMETHING AUTHENTIC AND
> WORTHY OF STUDY AS AUTHENTIC !
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> BETWEEN THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH SUPPORT OF BORG AND
> CROSSIN ET AL AND THE ANGLICAN CHURCH (CHURCH OF
> ENGLAND), WHOSE HEAD IS THE BRITISH ROYALTY, IS
> OBVIOUS. SO FOR ALL THOSE WHO FIND IT HARD TO
> BELIEVE MY ASSERTIONS THAT THERE IS A THEOSOPHICAL
> CONNECTION TO THE BRITISH ROYALS AND THEREFORE THE
> CHURCH OF ENGLAND AND THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH, PLEASE
> CONSIDER THE BELOW.
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> THE DEPARTMENT OF THEOSOPHY WAS FOUNDED AT THE
> UNIVERSITY IN 1901. BELOW ARE THE CONNECTIONS
> BETWEEN THE BRITISH ROYALTY AND THE UNIVERSITY OF
> LONDON. THE DEPARTMENT OF THEOSOPHY THERE IS
> ASSOCIATED WITH THE ACTUAL THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY,
> ANNIE BESANT'S BRANCH, WITH ITS AFFILIATIONS IN
> INDIA AND AUSTRALIA. REMEMBER THAT THE BRITISH
> ROYAL CROWN IS ALSO THE HEAD OF THE ANGLICAN CHURCH
> OF ENGLAND, AND THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH IN AMERICA IS
> MERELY AMERICAN ANGLICANISM. IT IS THE EPISCOPAL
> CHURCH THAT HAS GIVEN BACKING TO BORG AND HIS
> 'HISTORICAL JESUS' ANTI-JEWISH AND ANTI-CATHOLIC
> CAMPAIGN TO DECONSTRUCT AND DESTROY THE 'PATRIARCHAL
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> BORG'S THOUGHT WAS FORMED BY SO-CALLED 'GERMAN
> HIGHER CRITICISM'. HIS WIFE IS AN EPISCOPAL
> 'PRIEST' (WHY NOT A PRIESTESS?). IN THE BELOW
> LINK,( WHICH SUMMARIZES HIS JOURNEY TO THE 'TRUTH'
> ABOUT 'THE HISTORICAL JESUS'), WHERE IS THERE ANY
> MENTION OF ASCLEPIUS-CARAKA THE GREAT PHYSICIAN AND
> SON OF GOD ELI-YAHU / HELIOS ? ASCLEPIUS MUST BE
> THE STARTING PLACE FOR ANY SERIOUS DISCUSSION OF THE
> GENEALOGY OF THE WORSHIP OF JESUS CHRIST.
> Asclepius: Collection and Interpretation of the
> Testimonies/Volumes I and II in One
> by Emma J. Edelstein, Ludwig Edelstein
> (Contributor), Gary Ferngren (Introduction)
>
> a.. Paperback: 747 pages ; Dimensions (in inches):
> 2.01 x 9.97 x 7.03
> a.. Publisher: Johns Hopkins Univ Pr; Reprint
> edition (February 1998)
> a.. ISBN: 0801857694
>
> Ingram
> Legendary ancient Greek physician and healer god
> Asclepius was considered the foremost antagonist of
> Christ. Providing an overview of all facets of the
> Asclepius phenomenon, this work, first published in
> two volumes in 1945, comprises a unique collection
> of the literary references and inscriptions in
> ancient texts to Asclepius, his life, his deeds,
> cult, temples--with extended analysis thereof.
>
>
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> ESSENTIAL FOR THE STUDY OF ASKLEPIOS, March 31,
> 2000
> Reviewer: A reader from USA
> Simply the most comprehensive book on Asklepios, the
> greek good of healing, available. Edelstein has
> every reference to the god in both the original and
> translation. For a serious scholar this is a holy
> grail, but for someone without some familirity with
> the myth, this book might be a little overwhelming.
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> FINALLY, I HEARD BORG AT THE "JESUS AT 2000"
> SEMINAR PREACHING ADVAITI IMPERSONALISM / COVERED
> ATHEISM TO HIS EPISCOPAL AND NEW AGE MONIST GNOSTIC
> 'CHRISTIAN' FAN-CLUB, SO TO READ THE BELOW
> HYPOCRITICAL SERMON FROM HIM, DELIVERED AT A CHURCH,
> IS REALLY UNNERVING. IN TYPICAL TWO-FACED FASHION,
> HE DELIVERS A DEVOTIONAL-SOUNDING HOMILY TO A
> RELIGIOUS CONGREGATION, DESPITE THE FACT THAT HE IS
> THE SAME MAN WHO REPEATEDLY ASSERTED HIS ATHEISM AT
> THE "JESUS AT 2000" UNIVERSITY SEMINAR TO A CROWD OF
> HUNDREDS OF 'HIGHER CRITICISM' SCHOOL RELIGIOUS
> SCHOLARS AND ULTRA LIBERAL EPISCOPAL AND LUTHURAN
> 'PRIESTS', WHO ALSO DENIED THE EXISTENCE OF ANY
> 'GOD' OTHER THAN THEMSELVES.
>
> "I was there exposed to the central claims of modern
> gospel scholarship (mostly German, despite Davies'
> British connections). "
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http://www.westarinstitute.org/Perio.../borg_bio.html
> ...
> In seminary itself, I had planned to focus on social
> ethics. To my surprise, Jesus moved center stage,
> thanks to a New Testament course my first semester.
> Taught by Welsh scholar W. D. Davies (said to be one
> of the two favorite students of C. H. Dodd, the
> premier British new Testament scholar of this
> century), the course focused on Jesus and the
> synoptic gospels, and I was there exposed to the
> central claims of modern gospel scholarship (mostly
> German, despite Davies' British connections).
>
> The effect was, for me, dramatic. I realized that
> the image of Jesus from my childhood—the popular
> image of Jesus as the divine savior who knew himself
> to be the Son of God and who offered up his life for
> the sins of the world—was not historically true.
> Moreover, I learned that scholars had been saying
> this for almost two hundred years.
>
> This mind-boggling realization was based on the
> understanding of the gospels that has developed
> during the last two centuries. I learned that the
> gospels were neither divine nor particularly
> historical. They were not, as I had thought, "divine
> products" inspired directly by God, whose contents
> therefore were to be "believed." And they were not
> "eyewitness accounts" written by people who knew
> Jesus and who sought to report what they had seen
> and heard. I was fascinated. In spite of the heavy
> workload assigned to Union students in those days, I
> did voluminous amounts of extra reading about the
> quest for the historical Jesus.
>
> From that first semester came some central
> awarenesses about Jesus and the gospels. These
> realizations were, I think, the "common property" of
> most of us doing graduate work in the 1960s. Several
> remain foundational to my work on Jesus, though some
> have fallen away.
>
> The first four realizations were about the gospels:
>
> 1.. The gospels are not primarily history, but
> "proclamation" (kerygma, as we learned to call it).
> 2.. The oldest parts of the gospel tradition are Q
> (a collection of sayings) and Mark (the oldest
> narrative).
> 3.. The gospel of John is highly symbolic and
> essentially not historical.
> 4.. Even the material in the synoptic gospels is
> the product of a long process of development, shaped
> by Christian communities during the time of oral
> transmission, and further redacted by the
> evangelists. Using them as historical sources for
> Jesus is thus difficult.
> The next six realizations were about Jesus himself:
>
> 5.. Most (perhaps all) of the "exalted titles" by
> which Jesus is known In the Christian tradition do
> not go back to Jesus himself. He did not speak of or
> think of himself as "the Son of God," or as "one
> with the Father," or as "the light of the world," or
> as "the way, the truth, and the life," or as "the
> savior of the world." Only two "exalted titles"
> might possibly go back to him: "messiah" (about
> which "cutting edge" scholarly opinion seemed to be
> negative), and "Son of man" (see "9" below).
> 6.. It follows that Jesus message was not about
> himself or the importance of believing in him.
> 7.. Jesus was an eschatological figure. He
> expected "the end of the world" in his own
> generation. This expectation was quite literal,
> involving the coming of the Kingdom of God "in
> power," the gathering of the elect, and judgment.
> This expectation was central, not peripheral, to
> shaping and animating Jesus' ministry and message.
> This point, along with the next three, has fallen
> away as a foundation to my work.
> 8.. His central message was the imminent coming of
> the Kingdom of God, understood eschatologically.
> 9.. Jesus also spoke of "the coming of the Son of
> man," whose advent would be associated with end of
> the world events. Scholars were divided about
> whether he was referring to himself (that is, to his
> own future role), or whether he was speaking about a
> figure other than himself (that is, though he
> expected "the coming of the Son of man," he did not
> identify himself with that figure).
> 10.. Finally, we cannot know much about Jesus. Any
> very specific claim about him is highly problematic.
>
> The news that "the Jesus of history" (as I learned
> to call him) was very different from the Jesus I had
> heard about growing up in the church seemed
> important to me. It also seemed vaguely scandalous,
> and something I shouldn't tell my mother about. But
> I was hooked.
>
>
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>
> BELOW BORG SPEAKS FLOWERY WORDS OF DEVOTION, WHEN HE
> DOES NOT EVEN BELIEVE IN ANY PERSONAL GOD AND AGREED
> WITH CROSSIN'S STATEMENT THAT "IF JESUS WAS ALIVE
> TODAY HE WOULD MARRY HIS GAY FRIENDS". THE POINT
> BEING THAT BELOW BORG PRAYS TO SOMEONE WHO HE
> CLEARLY HAS REPEATEDLY STATED IS DEAD AND GONE.
> BORG IS A HYPOCRITE OF THE WORST KIND. THROUGHOUT
> THE ENTIRE "JESUS AT 2000" SEMINAR HE ASSERTED THAT
> JESUS WAS A MERE MAN WHO IS DEAD AND GONE. HE
> CHALLENGED THE VERY AUTHENTICITY OF JESUS'S WORSHIP
> AS THE 'LIGHT OF THE WORLD', AND HIS WORSHIPERS
> 'BODY AND BLOOD' ETC. !! YET BELOW HE PRAYS IN THE
> NAME OF THIS SAME THEOLOGICAL JESUS CHRIST THAT HE
> HAS DEVOTED HIMSELF TO DISCREDITING !! THUS BORG
> EMPLOYS TYPICAL THEOSOPHICAL DOUBLE-SPEAK.
>
> http://www.covenantweb.org/sermons/120802.html
>
> Sermon by Dr. Marcus Borg
> Second Sunday in Advent
>
> The Church of the Covenant
> December 8, 2002
>
>
>
>
>
> Advent: Exile and Return
>
> (Mark 1:1-8)
>
>
> I bring you greetings from my home parish, Trinity
> Episcopal Cathedral in Portland Oregon, where my
> wife Mary Ann is a priest. I have sometimes joked
> that I’m even married to a priest which was not one
> of my childhood fantasies, but so my life has turned
> out.
>
> I especially appreciate the invitation to preach. I
> don’t get to preach all that often -- maybe 12 or 15
> Sundays a year. I am a lay person after all, and I
> need to warn you that I have been told that my
> sermons often sound like lectures; but then I’ve
> also been told that my lectures often sound like
> sermons. So it kind of all evens out.
>
> I invite you now to join me in a brief moment of
> centering prayer.
>
> Lord Jesus Christ, You are the Light of
> the world. Fill our minds with Your peace
> and our hearts with Your love. In Your
> name O Christ, our body and our blood,
> our life and our nourishment. Amen.
>
> The gospel text this morning is from the first
> chapter of Mark and it in fact consists of the
> opening lines of our earliest gospel. Mark is the
> first gospel to be written so these are the opening
> lines of our earliest story of Jesus.
>
>
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