RE: Curse-Swee

08-24-2003, 12:49 AM

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

Dear Swee,

I dont think Shri Lashman responded to this. I would
have liked to know if the engagement was broken!

Let me take this opportunity to get some of my basic
clear! Can you elaborate more on grahas showing the
desires but rashi drishti being benefic. I presume in
this case 7th house is not afflicted by Graha drishti
and rashi drishti is benefic! What would be the case
if house had malefic graha drishti but benefic rashi
drishti?

I would also like to have better understanding of
parivartana between 2 planets, first in Rashi chart
and then in Navamsa.

I shall appreciate your help.

Kind Regards
Ramesh

--- Swee Chan wrote:
> Jaya Jagannatha
>
> Dear Lashman,
>
> Comments below.
>
> Swee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lakshman Brahma [mailto:lbrahma@...]
> Sent: 16 August 2003 17:09
> To: vedic-astrology (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> Subject: Re: [vedic-astrology]Curse
>
> Respected Gurujis & List
> I have a doubt in Curses. Please throw some light on
> this.
>
> I do have Sa, Ra participating in the curse on 7th
> house/Venus.( Curse of the spouse). JHD file
> attached.
> In D1: The curse is taking place in 7th house, and
> participating planets are Sa/Ra & Ve.
> since it involves spouse, I also lookd for these
> indications in D9 & D60.
> D9: Ra conjoins Ve in 6th house with Saturn's 10th
> house aspect. Here Ju is in lagna(Pi) and 7th house
> is
> not afflicted rather protected by Ju from Pi.
> D60: Here Ve conjoins Ju in 2nd house in scorpio and
> 5th house aspect from Ra , 7th house aspect of Ma.
> Note Sa is not involved here.
> One thing is clear. Sarpa dosha broken by Ve and ve
> is
> involved in curse (Spouse).
> How do we interpret this? which chart has more
> weightage?
> is the curse is because of shock (sa) and deceit(Ra)
> as these are involved in D1, D9 where as due to
> anger(Ma) and deceit(Ra) as per D60.
> I also remember Gurudeva mentioning it in VRA that
> 7th
> lord should also be involved for the curse to be
> complete. does it apply to natural 7th lord ve *OR*
> 7th lord in D1, D9, D60?
> What happens when the 7th lord happens to be Ma
> which
> is a malefic but not getting afflivted.
> Thanks and would appreciate any help in deciphering
> this.
>
> Lakshman
> Swee: Saturn (sorrow) Rahu (cheating) The lord of
> 7th is Mars and is
> involved in a VRY with Jupiter. (Mars is also the
> 12th lord aspecting
> the 8th lord).
> The 7th lord itself is not afflicted so there is no
> curse.
> The grahas may show the desire, but the rasi drishti
> on the 7th all have
> benefic aspects. The 6th lord conjoins it. So the
> sorrow and cheating
> relates more to the break of an engagement or within
> a relationship in
> this current life.
>
> You will also notice that Venus is in parivatana
> with Sun in Navamsa.
>
> Swee
>
>
>
>
>

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08-24-2003, 12:49 AM

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

Dear Swee,

I dont think Shri Lashman responded to this. I would
have liked to know if the engagement was broken!

Let me take this opportunity to get some of my basic
clear! Can you elaborate more on grahas showing the
desires but rashi drishti being benefic. I presume in
this case 7th house is not afflicted by Graha drishti
and rashi drishti is benefic! What would be the case
if house had malefic graha drishti but benefic rashi
drishti?

I would also like to have better understanding of
parivartana between 2 planets, first in Rashi chart
and then in Navamsa.

I shall appreciate your help.

Kind Regards
Ramesh

--- Swee Chan wrote:
> Jaya Jagannatha
>
> Dear Lashman,
>
> Comments below.
>
> Swee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lakshman Brahma [mailto:lbrahma@...]
> Sent: 16 August 2003 17:09
> To: vedic-astrology (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> Subject: Re: [vedic-astrology]Curse
>
> Respected Gurujis & List
> I have a doubt in Curses. Please throw some light on
> this.
>
> I do have Sa, Ra participating in the curse on 7th
> house/Venus.( Curse of the spouse). JHD file
> attached.
> In D1: The curse is taking place in 7th house, and
> participating planets are Sa/Ra & Ve.
> since it involves spouse, I also lookd for these
> indications in D9 & D60.
> D9: Ra conjoins Ve in 6th house with Saturn's 10th
> house aspect. Here Ju is in lagna(Pi) and 7th house
> is
> not afflicted rather protected by Ju from Pi.
> D60: Here Ve conjoins Ju in 2nd house in scorpio and
> 5th house aspect from Ra , 7th house aspect of Ma.
> Note Sa is not involved here.
> One thing is clear. Sarpa dosha broken by Ve and ve
> is
> involved in curse (Spouse).
> How do we interpret this? which chart has more
> weightage?
> is the curse is because of shock (sa) and deceit(Ra)
> as these are involved in D1, D9 where as due to
> anger(Ma) and deceit(Ra) as per D60.
> I also remember Gurudeva mentioning it in VRA that
> 7th
> lord should also be involved for the curse to be
> complete. does it apply to natural 7th lord ve *OR*
> 7th lord in D1, D9, D60?
> What happens when the 7th lord happens to be Ma
> which
> is a malefic but not getting afflivted.
> Thanks and would appreciate any help in deciphering
> this.
>
> Lakshman
> Swee: Saturn (sorrow) Rahu (cheating) The lord of
> 7th is Mars and is
> involved in a VRY with Jupiter. (Mars is also the
> 12th lord aspecting
> the 8th lord).
> The 7th lord itself is not afflicted so there is no
> curse.
> The grahas may show the desire, but the rasi drishti
> on the 7th all have
> benefic aspects. The 6th lord conjoins it. So the
> sorrow and cheating
> relates more to the break of an engagement or within
> a relationship in
> this current life.
>
> You will also notice that Venus is in parivatana
> with Sun in Navamsa.
>
> Swee
>
>
>
>
>

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08-24-2003, 01:47 AM

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Ramesh,

In curses, if its lord is afflicted together with the significator
together or separately. Recollecting the chart (I do not have it any
more) the significator is afflicted, but the its lord is not, so no
affliction as such, Grahas there indicate the broken promise being 6th
lord Venus in this case, in marana sthana (the natural indicator for
love) with Rahu (through cheating or shock). The presence of a benefic
also saves the curse. If indications are that you'll be bitten by a
snake, the benefic influence will allow you to survive the bite. Of
course, the basic nature is that at least 2 malefics must be involved.
In answer to your second question, then the curse can be lifted. If it
is Moon's rasi drishti, Sanjayji recommends Shiva Mantra. If Venus, then
Mahamrityunya Mantra etc.

Best wishes,

Swee

-----Original Message-----
From: Ramesh F. Gangaramani [mailto:rgangaramani@...]
Sent: 24 August 2003 12:50
To: vedic-astrology (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Subject: RE: [vedic-astrology]Curse-Swee

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

Dear Swee,

I dont think Shri Lashman responded to this. I would
have liked to know if the engagement was broken!

Let me take this opportunity to get some of my basic
clear! Can you elaborate more on grahas showing the
desires but rashi drishti being benefic. I presume in
this case 7th house is not afflicted by Graha drishti
and rashi drishti is benefic! What would be the case
if house had malefic graha drishti but benefic rashi
drishti?

I would also like to have better understanding of
parivartana between 2 planets, first in Rashi chart
and then in Navamsa.

I shall appreciate your help.

Kind Regards
Ramesh

--- Swee Chan wrote:
> Jaya Jagannatha
>
> Dear Lashman,
>
> Comments below.
>
> Swee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lakshman Brahma [mailto:lbrahma@...]
> Sent: 16 August 2003 17:09
> To: vedic-astrology (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> Subject: Re: [vedic-astrology]Curse
>
> Respected Gurujis & List
> I have a doubt in Curses. Please throw some light on
> this.
>
> I do have Sa, Ra participating in the curse on 7th
> house/Venus.( Curse of the spouse). JHD file
> attached.
> In D1: The curse is taking place in 7th house, and
> participating planets are Sa/Ra & Ve.
> since it involves spouse, I also lookd for these
> indications in D9 & D60.
> D9: Ra conjoins Ve in 6th house with Saturn's 10th
> house aspect. Here Ju is in lagna(Pi) and 7th house
> is
> not afflicted rather protected by Ju from Pi.
> D60: Here Ve conjoins Ju in 2nd house in scorpio and
> 5th house aspect from Ra , 7th house aspect of Ma.
> Note Sa is not involved here.
> One thing is clear. Sarpa dosha broken by Ve and ve
> is
> involved in curse (Spouse).
> How do we interpret this? which chart has more
> weightage?
> is the curse is because of shock (sa) and deceit(Ra)
> as these are involved in D1, D9 where as due to
> anger(Ma) and deceit(Ra) as per D60.
> I also remember Gurudeva mentioning it in VRA that
> 7th
> lord should also be involved for the curse to be
> complete. does it apply to natural 7th lord ve *OR*
> 7th lord in D1, D9, D60?
> What happens when the 7th lord happens to be Ma
> which
> is a malefic but not getting afflivted.
> Thanks and would appreciate any help in deciphering
> this.
>
> Lakshman
> Swee: Saturn (sorrow) Rahu (cheating) The lord of
> 7th is Mars and is
> involved in a VRY with Jupiter. (Mars is also the
> 12th lord aspecting
> the 8th lord).
> The 7th lord itself is not afflicted so there is no
> curse.
> The grahas may show the desire, but the rasi drishti
> on the 7th all have
> benefic aspects. The 6th lord conjoins it. So the
> sorrow and cheating
> relates more to the break of an engagement or within
> a relationship in
> this current life.
>
> You will also notice that Venus is in parivatana
> with Sun in Navamsa.
>
> Swee
>
>
>
>
>

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08-24-2003, 01:47 AM

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Ramesh,

In curses, if its lord is afflicted together with the significator
together or separately. Recollecting the chart (I do not have it any
more) the significator is afflicted, but the its lord is not, so no
affliction as such, Grahas there indicate the broken promise being 6th
lord Venus in this case, in marana sthana (the natural indicator for
love) with Rahu (through cheating or shock). The presence of a benefic
also saves the curse. If indications are that you'll be bitten by a
snake, the benefic influence will allow you to survive the bite. Of
course, the basic nature is that at least 2 malefics must be involved.
In answer to your second question, then the curse can be lifted. If it
is Moon's rasi drishti, Sanjayji recommends Shiva Mantra. If Venus, then
Mahamrityunya Mantra etc.

Best wishes,

Swee

-----Original Message-----
From: Ramesh F. Gangaramani [mailto:rgangaramani@...]
Sent: 24 August 2003 12:50
To: vedic-astrology (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Subject: RE: [vedic-astrology]Curse-Swee

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

Dear Swee,

I dont think Shri Lashman responded to this. I would
have liked to know if the engagement was broken!

Let me take this opportunity to get some of my basic
clear! Can you elaborate more on grahas showing the
desires but rashi drishti being benefic. I presume in
this case 7th house is not afflicted by Graha drishti
and rashi drishti is benefic! What would be the case
if house had malefic graha drishti but benefic rashi
drishti?

I would also like to have better understanding of
parivartana between 2 planets, first in Rashi chart
and then in Navamsa.

I shall appreciate your help.

Kind Regards
Ramesh

--- Swee Chan wrote:
> Jaya Jagannatha
>
> Dear Lashman,
>
> Comments below.
>
> Swee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lakshman Brahma [mailto:lbrahma@...]
> Sent: 16 August 2003 17:09
> To: vedic-astrology (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> Subject: Re: [vedic-astrology]Curse
>
> Respected Gurujis & List
> I have a doubt in Curses. Please throw some light on
> this.
>
> I do have Sa, Ra participating in the curse on 7th
> house/Venus.( Curse of the spouse). JHD file
> attached.
> In D1: The curse is taking place in 7th house, and
> participating planets are Sa/Ra & Ve.
> since it involves spouse, I also lookd for these
> indications in D9 & D60.
> D9: Ra conjoins Ve in 6th house with Saturn's 10th
> house aspect. Here Ju is in lagna(Pi) and 7th house
> is
> not afflicted rather protected by Ju from Pi.
> D60: Here Ve conjoins Ju in 2nd house in scorpio and
> 5th house aspect from Ra , 7th house aspect of Ma.
> Note Sa is not involved here.
> One thing is clear. Sarpa dosha broken by Ve and ve
> is
> involved in curse (Spouse).
> How do we interpret this? which chart has more
> weightage?
> is the curse is because of shock (sa) and deceit(Ra)
> as these are involved in D1, D9 where as due to
> anger(Ma) and deceit(Ra) as per D60.
> I also remember Gurudeva mentioning it in VRA that
> 7th
> lord should also be involved for the curse to be
> complete. does it apply to natural 7th lord ve *OR*
> 7th lord in D1, D9, D60?
> What happens when the 7th lord happens to be Ma
> which
> is a malefic but not getting afflivted.
> Thanks and would appreciate any help in deciphering
> this.
>
> Lakshman
> Swee: Saturn (sorrow) Rahu (cheating) The lord of
> 7th is Mars and is
> involved in a VRY with Jupiter. (Mars is also the
> 12th lord aspecting
> the 8th lord).
> The 7th lord itself is not afflicted so there is no
> curse.
> The grahas may show the desire, but the rasi drishti
> on the 7th all have
> benefic aspects. The 6th lord conjoins it. So the
> sorrow and cheating
> relates more to the break of an engagement or within
> a relationship in
> this current life.
>
> You will also notice that Venus is in parivatana
> with Sun in Navamsa.
>
> Swee
>
>
>
>
>

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