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Default Karma Yoga, Sankhya Yoga, Bhakti Yogas - Chart Patterns? - 01-07-2003, 01:34 PM

In my very beginner level knowledge of the Gita, it seems to me that
there are several at least superficially different ways to approach
God. Of them, Karma Yoga seems to me to be the doing of compassionate
action without any regard for returns, Bhakti Yoga seems to be the
expression of devotion to God, and Sankhya Yoga seems almost to be
the discovery of God through analytical understanding (observation?)
of the universe.

I have several questions:
1) First, do you Gurus agree with the above assessment? I know that
at the deeper level the Gita also says that all paths are essentially
the same, so perhaps I am wrong in even recognizing these as somewhat
different.
2) Second, if they are in some way different (as they appear to be),
I remember that in this group I have heard that if your AK is the
same as your Istha Devata you are a Karma Yogi. Are there similar
simple patterns in a chart to recognize Bhakti Yoga and even more
interestingly, Sankhya Yoga in a chart? If so, what are they?
3) In my simple understanding of the above Yogas, it seems to me that
someone like Srila Prabhupada would be a Bhakti Yogi, someone like
Mother Teresa would be a Karma Yogi, and perhaps someone like Jiddu
Krishnamurti or the Buddha would be a Sankhya Yogi. Is this correct?
The chart details of all can be found in the birthdata bank in this
newsgroup. It would be nice if someone could show the above mentioned
patterns (if they exist) in some of the above charts.

Thank you very much in advance,

Sundeep
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Default Re: Karma Yoga, Sankhya Yoga, Bhakti Yogas - Chart Patterns? - 01-08-2003, 04:37 AM

Dear Sandeep,
The way I have understood is that karma yoga without expectations purifies our
mind. Pure mind attracts knowledge (Sankya Yoga). Knowledge will start to
increase devotion (Bhakti yoga). Therefore these three yogas are like three
points on a circle. Different people may start at different point. But
ultimately when one has experienced all three yogas the person progesses
spiritually in to Sadhana and ultimately achieves Moksha. So they are all
connected.
With Best Regards,
Sadashiv.

"vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>" <vedicastrostudent (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
wrote:
In my very beginner level knowledge of the Gita, it seems to me that there are
several at least superficially different ways to approach God. Of them, Karma
Yoga seems to me to be the doing of compassionate action without any regard for
returns, Bhakti Yoga seems to be the expression of devotion to God, and Sankhya
Yoga seems almost to be the discovery of God through analytical understanding
(observation?)of the universe.I have several questions:1) First, do you Gurus
agree with the above assessment? I know that at the deeper level the Gita also
says that all paths are essentially the same, so perhaps I am wrong in even
recognizing these as somewhat different.2) Second, if they are in some way
different (as they appear to be), I remember that in this group I have heard
that if your AK is the same as your Istha Devata you are a Karma Yogi. Are
there similar simple patterns in a chart to recognize Bhakti Yoga and even more
interestingly, Sankhya Yoga in a chart? If so, what are they?3) In my simple
understanding of the above Yogas, it seems to me that someone like Srila
Prabhupada would be a Bhakti Yogi, someone like Mother Teresa would be a Karma
Yogi, and perhaps someone like Jiddu Krishnamurti or the Buddha would be a
Sankhya Yogi. Is this correct? The chart details of all can be found in the
birthdata bank in this newsgroup. It would be nice if someone could show the
above mentioned patterns (if they exist) in some of the above charts.Thank you
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Default Re: Karma Yoga, Sankhya Yoga, Bhakti Yogas - Chart Patterns? - 01-08-2003, 06:50 AM

Dear Sadashiv,
Your message to sandeep is very apt and shows depth of your knowledge and analytical capacity.
Chandrashekhar.
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From: Sadashiv Dharwarkar
To: vedic-astrology (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [vedic-astrology] Karma Yoga, Sankhya Yoga, Bhakti Yogas - Chart Patterns?
II OM NAMOBHAGAWATE VASUDEVAYA II Dear Sandeep, The way I have understood is
that karma yoga without expectations purifies our mind. Pure mind attracts
knowledge (Sankya Yoga). Knowledge will start to increase devotion (Bhakti
yoga). Therefore these three yogas are like three points on a circle. Different
people may start at different point. But ultimately when one has experienced all
three yogas the person progesses spiritually in to Sadhana and ultimately
achieves Moksha. So they are all connected. With Best Regards, Sadashiv.
"vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>" <vedicastrostudent (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
wrote: In my very beginner level knowledge of the Gita, it seems to me that
there are several at least superficially different ways to approach God. Of
them, Karma Yoga seems to me to be the doing of compassionate action without
any regard for returns, Bhakti Yoga seems to be the expression of devotion to
God, and Sankhya Yoga seems almost to be the discovery of God through
analytical understanding (observation?)of the universe.I have several
questions:1) First, do you Gurus agree with the above assessment? I know that
at the deeper level the Gita also says that all paths are essentially the same,
so perhaps I am wrong in even recognizing these as somewhat different.2) Second,
if they are in some way different (as they appear to be), I remember that in
this group I have heard that if your AK is the same as your Istha Devata you
are a Karma Yogi. Are there similar simple patterns in a chart to recognize
Bhakti Yoga and even more interestingly, Sankhya Yoga in a chart? If so, what
are they?3) In my simple understanding of the above Yogas, it seems to me that
someone like Srila Prabhupada would be a Bhakti Yogi, someone like Mother
Teresa would be a Karma Yogi, and perhaps someone like Jiddu Krishnamurti or
the Buddha would be a Sankhya Yogi. Is this correct? The chart details of all
can be found in the birthdata bank in this newsgroup. It would be nice if
someone could show the above mentioned patterns (if they exist) in some of the
above charts.Thank you very much in advance,SundeepArchives:
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Default Re: Karma Yoga, Sankhya Yoga, Bhakti Yogas - Chart Patterns? - 01-08-2003, 08:55 AM

Best Regards,
Sadashiv
Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
Dear Sadashiv,
Your message to sandeep is very apt and shows depth of your knowledge and analytical capacity.
Chandrashekhar.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sadashiv Dharwarkar
To: vedic-astrology (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [vedic-astrology] Karma Yoga, Sankhya Yoga, Bhakti Yogas - Chart Patterns?
II OM NAMOBHAGAWATE VASUDEVAYA II Dear Sandeep, The way I have understood is
that karma yoga without expectations purifies our mind. Pure mind attracts
knowledge (Sankya Yoga). Knowledge will start to increase devotion (Bhakti
yoga). Therefore these three yogas are like three points on a circle. Different
people may start at different point. But ultimately when one has experienced all
three yogas the person progesses spiritually in to Sadhana and ultimately
achieves Moksha. So they are all connected. With Best Regards, Sadashiv.
"vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>" <vedicastrostudent (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
wrote: In my very beginner level knowledge of the Gita, it seems to me that
there are several at least superficially different ways to approach God. Of
them, Karma Yoga seems to me to be the doing of compassionate action without
any regard for returns, Bhakti Yoga seems to be the expression of devotion to
God, and Sankhya Yoga seems almost to be the discovery of God through
analytical understanding (observation?)of the universe.I have several
questions:1) First, do you Gurus agree with the above assessment? I know that
at the deeper level the Gita also says that all paths are essentially the same,
so perhaps I am wrong in even recognizing these as somewhat different.2) Second,
if they are in some way different (as they appear to be), I remember that in
this group I have heard that if your AK is the same as your Istha Devata you
are a Karma Yogi. Are there similar simple patterns in a chart to recognize
Bhakti Yoga and even more interestingly, Sankhya Yoga in a chart? If so, what
are they?3) In my simple understanding of the above Yogas, it seems to me that
someone like Srila Prabhupada would be a Bhakti Yogi, someone like Mother
Teresa would be a Karma Yogi, and perhaps someone like Jiddu Krishnamurti or
the Buddha would be a Sankhya Yogi. Is this correct? The chart details of all
can be found in the birthdata bank in this newsgroup. It would be nice if
someone could show the above mentioned patterns (if they exist) in some of the
above charts.Thank you very much in advance,SundeepArchives:
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Default Re: Karma Yoga, Sankhya Yoga, Bhakti Yogas - Chart Patterns? - 01-09-2003, 01:41 PM

` ¬I— AaiStk< minraj< nmaenm>,

Dear Sundeep,

Here's the answer to your 2nd question. You will find all of them in Jaimini
Maharishi's Upadesa Sutras.

> Are there similar > simple patterns in a chart to recognize Bhakti Yoga and

even more > interestingly, Sankhya Yoga in a chart? If so, what are they?

Mercury in trines especially the 1st/5th makes one a Mimamsika.Mimamsa: Freedom
through the Performance of Duty. It means to analyze and understand thoroughly.
Mimamsa emphasizes the teachings of Veda in the light of rituals. It provides a
philosophical justification for rituals and explains the meanings behind them.
Hence, we need to pay attention to Mercury (Vidyakaaraka), who obviously as
explained above is a significator of analysis.

Jupiter in Swamsa makes a Karma Yogi who will excel in all field due to his own
intelligence or one interested in philosophy and religion or priest.

The Moon in 1st/5th gives knowledge of Sankhya & Yoga philosophies besides
history( Rhetoric & Music) or produces a Singer.
Samkhya is a dualistic philosophy that believes in the coexistent and
interdependent realities, conscious Purusha and unconscious Prakrti. Samkhya
philosophy explains the dynamics of the body and nature of mind. Yoga studies
all aspects of human personality and teaches one how to control the
modifications of the mind through practice of meditation and detachment and
surrender to higher consciousness. Practicality is the main feature of this
system.
The Sun in 1st5th gives knowledge of Vedas and Bhagavat Gita.
The main teachings of Vedanta is that self-realization is the actual goal of
life, that the essence of the self is the ever existent consciousness and
bliss, the Self is free from all qualifications and limitations, that the self
is essentially Brahman, which is the basis of mind and matter.
Hope this helps.
Warm Regards
Narayan
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