Tarunji,
It shall be interesting to know why is your ayanamsha
correct. I have gone through the web pages on yuor
site, you basically say that the coinciding point of
sayana planets and the nirayana should be the same.
Why then not start from today, why from jan 1, 1100 or
whatever date you have suggested.
regards
rishi

--- Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@...> wrote:

> Vedic Astrology is based on Sidereal Zodiac and
> sidereal zodiac basic
> foundation is Ayanamsha if the Ayanamsha is not
> correct then the Horoscope
> is also not correct.
>
> Are you still using wrong Ayanamsha to calculate the
> horoscopes? To get the
> right Horoscope and to get the right results from
> Astrology, you are welcome
> to join this Group of Astrology
>
> Tarun Chopra
> www.occultwizard.com
>
> If you are not interested in joining the group just
> ignore this invitation.
>
>
> On 4/19/06, jyotish <jyotish.bh@...> wrote:
> >
> > Yes Rishi
> > You are correct.
> > WE need to evolve ayanamsha that is compatible
> to different S/W today
> > available.
> > Lahiri, Raman, are being used by almost all
> including JH, Kundli...
> > JH 7.0 gives option of different Ayanamsha and
> these results are quite
> > close to each other.
> > One can't appreciate other Ayanamsha if the same
> does not fit into.
> >
> > Regards
> > Rps
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: rishi_2000in
> > To: Jyotish_Remedies (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:05 AM
> > Subject: [JR] Re: Bhava Charts Vs Rashi charts
> >
> >
> > Pratap,
> > Ayanamsha has been a contentious issue amongst
> most learned of the
> > astrologers too.Mostly , the ayanamsha named as
> Chitrapaksha or
> > Lahiri ayanamsha is followed which was approved
> by the Indian
> > Government as a part of Rashtriya Panchang.
> There are several other
> > ayanamshas too including the Raman ayanamsha
> quite commonly used.
> > Most of these are within plus minus 3 degress of
> the Lahiri value.
> > Tarun Chopra claims an ayanamsa 12 degrees away
> from Lahiri.
> > It is again a personal experience of his.
> > regards
> > rishi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Jyotish_Remedies (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Pratap
> Kaneria
> > <pkaneria@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am also a student following your
> discussions about bhav all
> > day. If you allow me to pose a new question...
> > >
> > > I have come across just recently a new
> ayamansa proposed by
> > Tarun Chopra who claims with some proof that his
> ayamansa is most
> > accurate compared to the one's in use in present
> time. Everyone
> > knows, that accurate predictions depends on
> precise horoscope and
> > dasa calculations. If you investigate, you will
> find that Chopra's
> > ayamansa produces significantly different charts
> and dasas.
> > >
> > > Has anyone on this list investigated Tarun
> Chopra's proposal ?
> > >
> > > With regards,
> > >
> > > Pratap
> > >
> > > rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in@...> wrote:
> > > Actually, I digressed, I am glad that Surya
> speaks from his
> > experiences.
> > > Your reply about spherical trigonometry made
> me look at another
> > point
> > > which has been there in the back of my mind. I
> am, however, sadly
> > > lacking in personally experienced positions,
> just a beginner in
> > this
> > > ocean of astrology. Doesn't stop me from
> imagining fancy conceptual
> > > designs! Thanks for tolerating the kids on the
> block regards rishi
> > > br>--- In Jyotish_Remedies (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com,
> "crystal pages"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps, Rishi, but the clincher would in
> the end must be -- But,
> > > > does it?
> > > >
> > > > The original poster (Surya) has discovered
> that in his experience
> > > > bhava works better than rashi (or something
> like that). I have no
> > > > problem with his personally experience
> position in that matter.
> > Do
> > > > you? :-)
> > > >
> > > > RR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Jyotish_Remedies (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com,
> "rishi_2000in"
> > > > rishi_2000in@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > RRji,
> > > > > And then the converse should also hold
> good, if in a part,
> > letus
> > > > say
> > > > > the navamsha, a 180 degree difference
> exists it can get
> > transposed
> > > > > to a 20 degree difference in the rashi
> chart, it actually
> > happens
> > > > in
> > > > > calculations.
> > > > > Logically, then the interpretations of a
> seventh house
> > relationship
> > > > > in navamsh should also be an
> interpretation for the
> > > > > 20/60/100/140/180/220/260/300/340 in the
> rashi chart?
> > > > > Your personal opinion sought,
> > > > > regards
> > > > > rishi
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Jyotish_Remedies (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com,
> "crystal pages"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rishi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you are asking my personal opinion
> then it has been
> > simple:
> > > > The
> > > > > > planetary system bears a remarkable
> resemblance to the
> > structure
> > > > of
> > > > > > an atom as science understands it. As
> above, so below. The
> > parts
> > > > > must
> > > > > > follow the pattern on which the whole is
> based. The progeny
> > must
> > > > > bear
> > > > > > resemblance to the progenitor.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However, the truth as I see it may not
> be everyone's truth --
> > and
> > > > I
> > > > > > try not to get in their way! Why else
> would the map be made
> > so
> > > > > > complicated and so many paths to the
> same end-goal. I never
> > > > > question
> > > > > > that! After all I am not paying for the
> petrol!
> > > > > >
>
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Dear Rishi

ok consider the today's date as the starting point so the two zodiacs are
similar today if we assume this. Now calculate any chart of century say date
01-01-1800 or 01-01-1900 you will get the ayanamsha value 00-00-00 which is
same as tropical one, so there will be no difference between tropical or
sidereal zodiac. Now we have to find a year a long back when the two zodiacs
were similar, lahiri gave the date 22/03/0285 check at that time does both
zodiacs were similar see the difference in planetary position check with all
others ayanamsha with their starting date you will not find the similar
planetary position. Now if you try with my ayanamsha you will find exact not
even a second difference.

Ok do it differently now calculate the charts from Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha
and when you get any event check what dasha is going on at that time. You
will find that on that day only the dasha has changed there will be so
perfect that event hour will also match now this never happens with any
other ayanamsha.

Don't follow any ayanamsha research on it you will find that Tarun Chopra
Ayanamsha goes too perfect in timing of the events and if you study the
horoscopes you will find the life will reflect from Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha

and you know lots of people who are good at astrology has tried my ayanamsha
and they are getting perfect results which they did not got from any other
ayanamsha.

With regards

Tarun Chopra
www.occultwizard.com

Join for right astrology and right horoscope
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On 4/19/06, rishi shukla <rishi_2000in@...> wrote:
>
> Tarunji,
> It shall be interesting to know why is your ayanamsha
> correct. I have gone through the web pages on yuor
> site, you basically say that the coinciding point of
> sayana planets and the nirayana should be the same.
> Why then not start from today, why from jan 1, 1100 or
> whatever date you have suggested.
> regards
> rishi
>
>
> --- Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@...> wrote:
>
> > Vedic Astrology is based on Sidereal Zodiac and
> > sidereal zodiac basic
> > foundation is Ayanamsha if the Ayanamsha is not
> > correct then the Horoscope
> > is also not correct.
> >
> > Are you still using wrong Ayanamsha to calculate the
> > horoscopes? To get the
> > right Horoscope and to get the right results from
> > Astrology, you are welcome
> > to join this Group of Astrology
> >
> > Tarun Chopra
> > www.occultwizard.com
> >
> > If you are not interested in joining the group just
> > ignore this invitation.
> >
> >
> > On 4/19/06, jyotish <jyotish.bh@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes Rishi
> > > You are correct.
> > > WE need to evolve ayanamsha that is compatible
> > to different S/W today
> > > available.
> > > Lahiri, Raman, are being used by almost all
> > including JH, Kundli...
> > > JH 7.0 gives option of different Ayanamsha and
> > these results are quite
> > > close to each other.
> > > One can't appreciate other Ayanamsha if the same
> > does not fit into.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Rps
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: rishi_2000in
> > > To: Jyotish_Remedies (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:05 AM
> > > Subject: [JR] Re: Bhava Charts Vs Rashi charts
> > >
> > >
> > > Pratap,
> > > Ayanamsha has been a contentious issue amongst
> > most learned of the
> > > astrologers too.Mostly , the ayanamsha named as
> > Chitrapaksha or
> > > Lahiri ayanamsha is followed which was approved
> > by the Indian
> > > Government as a part of Rashtriya Panchang.
> > There are several other
> > > ayanamshas too including the Raman ayanamsha
> > quite commonly used.
> > > Most of these are within plus minus 3 degress of
> > the Lahiri value.
> > > Tarun Chopra claims an ayanamsa 12 degrees away
> > from Lahiri.
> > > It is again a personal experience of his.
> > > regards
> > > rishi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Jyotish_Remedies (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Pratap
> > Kaneria
> > > <pkaneria@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I am also a student following your
> > discussions about bhav all
> > > day. If you allow me to pose a new question...
> > > >
> > > > I have come across just recently a new
> > ayamansa proposed by
> > > Tarun Chopra who claims with some proof that his
> > ayamansa is most
> > > accurate compared to the one's in use in present
> > time. Everyone
> > > knows, that accurate predictions depends on
> > precise horoscope and
> > > dasa calculations. If you investigate, you will
> > find that Chopra's
> > > ayamansa produces significantly different charts
> > and dasas.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone on this list investigated Tarun
> > Chopra's proposal ?
> > > >
> > > > With regards,
> > > >
> > > > Pratap
> > > >
> > > > rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in@...> wrote:
> > > > Actually, I digressed, I am glad that Surya
> > speaks from his
> > > experiences.
> > > > Your reply about spherical trigonometry made
> > me look at another
> > > point
> > > > which has been there in the back of my mind. I
> > am, however, sadly
> > > > lacking in personally experienced positions,
> > just a beginner in
> > > this
> > > > ocean of astrology. Doesn't stop me from
> > imagining fancy conceptual
> > > > designs! Thanks for tolerating the kids on the
> > block regards rishi
> > > > br>--- In Jyotish_Remedies (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com,
> > "crystal pages"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps, Rishi, but the clincher would in
> > the end must be -- But,
> > > > > does it?
> > > > >
> > > > > The original poster (Surya) has discovered
> > that in his experience
> > > > > bhava works better than rashi (or something
> > like that). I have no
> > > > > problem with his personally experience
> > position in that matter.
> > > Do
> > > > > you? :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > RR
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Jyotish_Remedies (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com,
> > "rishi_2000in"
> > > > > rishi_2000in@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RRji,
> > > > > > And then the converse should also hold
> > good, if in a part,
> > > letus
> > > > > say
> > > > > > the navamsha, a 180 degree difference
> > exists it can get
> > > transposed
> > > > > > to a 20 degree difference in the rashi
> > chart, it actually
> > > happens
> > > > > in
> > > > > > calculations.
> > > > > > Logically, then the interpretations of a
> > seventh house
> > > relationship
> > > > > > in navamsh should also be an
> > interpretation for the
> > > > > > 20/60/100/140/180/220/260/300/340 in the
> > rashi chart?
> > > > > > Your personal opinion sought,
> > > > > > regards
> > > > > > rishi
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Jyotish_Remedies (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com,
> > "crystal pages"
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rishi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you are asking my personal opinion
> > then it has been
> > > simple:
> > > > > The
> > > > > > > planetary system bears a remarkable
> > resemblance to the
> > > structure
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > an atom as science understands it. As
> > above, so below. The
> > > parts
> > > > > > must
> > > > > > > follow the pattern on which the whole is
> > based. The progeny
> > > must
> > > > > > bear
> > > > > > > resemblance to the progenitor.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > However, the truth as I see it may not
> > be everyone's truth --
> > > and
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > try not to get in their way! Why else
> > would the map be made
> > > so
> > > > > > > complicated and so many paths to the
> > same end-goal. I never
> > > > > > question
> > > > > > > that! After all I am not paying for the
> > petrol!
> > > > > > >
> >
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>
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Tarunji,
Thanks for your response. There are two issues here,
1) That you are getting consistent results in
horscopes using this ayanamsha, that states your
personal experience and good for you.
2) The values you are discussing, now the date 1 Jan,
1155, I assume is a Julian date and not based on
Gregorian calender. Secondly, you are assuming a
linear progression of the ayanamsha with a value of
50.279 seconds since the inception of ayanamsha.
Thirdly, the values in degrees, minutes and
seconds...are you using swiss ephemeris using decimal
places or are you using a particular software for it.
An ayanamsha cannot merely begin on a particular date
if a particular software displays a perfect match.
Would like to know more of these points,thanks
regards
rishi

--- Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@...> wrote:

> Dear Rishi
>
> ok consider the today's date as the starting point
> so the two zodiacs are
> similar today if we assume this. Now calculate any
> chart of century say date
> 01-01-1800 or 01-01-1900 you will get the ayanamsha
> value 00-00-00 which is
> same as tropical one, so there will be no difference
> between tropical or
> sidereal zodiac. Now we have to find a year a long
> back when the two zodiacs
> were similar, lahiri gave the date 22/03/0285 check
> at that time does both
> zodiacs were similar see the difference in planetary
> position check with all
> others ayanamsha with their starting date you will
> not find the similar
> planetary position. Now if you try with my ayanamsha
> you will find exact not
> even a second difference.
>
> Ok do it differently now calculate the charts from
> Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha
> and when you get any event check what dasha is going
> on at that time. You
> will find that on that day only the dasha has
> changed there will be so
> perfect that event hour will also match now this
> never happens with any
> other ayanamsha.
>
> Don't follow any ayanamsha research on it you will
> find that Tarun Chopra
> Ayanamsha goes too perfect in timing of the events
> and if you study the
> horoscopes you will find the life will reflect from
> Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha
>
> and you know lots of people who are good at
> astrology has tried my ayanamsha
> and they are getting perfect results which they did
> not got from any other
> ayanamsha.
>
> With regards
>
> Tarun Chopra
> www.occultwizard.com
>
> Join for right astrology and right horoscope
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/divinelight/
>
> On 4/19/06, rishi shukla <rishi_2000in@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Tarunji,
> > It shall be interesting to know why is your
> ayanamsha
> > correct. I have gone through the web pages on yuor
> > site, you basically say that the coinciding point
> of
> > sayana planets and the nirayana should be the
> same.
> > Why then not start from today, why from jan 1,
> 1100 or
> > whatever date you have suggested.
> > regards
> > rishi
> >
> >
> > --- Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Vedic Astrology is based on Sidereal Zodiac and
> > > sidereal zodiac basic
> > > foundation is Ayanamsha if the Ayanamsha is not
> > > correct then the Horoscope
> > > is also not correct.
> > >
> > > Are you still using wrong Ayanamsha to calculate
> the
> > > horoscopes? To get the
> > > right Horoscope and to get the right results
> from
> > > Astrology, you are welcome
> > > to join this Group of Astrology
> > >
> > > Tarun Chopra
> > > www.occultwizard.com
> > >
> > > If you are not interested in joining the group
> just
> > > ignore this invitation.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/19/06, jyotish <jyotish.bh@...>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes Rishi
> > > > You are correct.
> > > > WE need to evolve ayanamsha that is
> compatible
> > > to different S/W today
> > > > available.
> > > > Lahiri, Raman, are being used by almost all
> > > including JH, Kundli...
> > > > JH 7.0 gives option of different Ayanamsha
> and
> > > these results are quite
> > > > close to each other.
> > > > One can't appreciate other Ayanamsha if the
> same
> > > does not fit into.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Rps
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: rishi_2000in
> > > > To: Jyotish_Remedies (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:05 AM
> > > > Subject: [JR] Re: Bhava Charts Vs Rashi
> charts
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Pratap,
> > > > Ayanamsha has been a contentious issue
> amongst
> > > most learned of the
> > > > astrologers too.Mostly , the ayanamsha named
> as
> > > Chitrapaksha or
> > > > Lahiri ayanamsha is followed which was
> approved
> > > by the Indian
> > > > Government as a part of Rashtriya Panchang.
> > > There are several other
> > > > ayanamshas too including the Raman ayanamsha
> > > quite commonly used.
> > > > Most of these are within plus minus 3
> degress of
> > > the Lahiri value.
> > > > Tarun Chopra claims an ayanamsa 12 degrees
> away
> > > from Lahiri.
> > > > It is again a personal experience of his.
> > > > regards
> > > > rishi
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Jyotish_Remedies (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com,
> Pratap
> > > Kaneria
> > > > <pkaneria@...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am also a student following your
> > > discussions about bhav all
> > > > day. If you allow me to pose a new
> question...
> > > > >
> > > > > I have come across just recently a new
> > > ayamansa proposed by
> > > > Tarun Chopra who claims with some proof that
> his
> > > ayamansa is most
> > > > accurate compared to the one's in use in
> present
> > > time. Everyone
> > > > knows, that accurate predictions depends on
> > > precise horoscope and
> > > > dasa calculations. If you investigate, you
> will
> > > find that Chopra's
> > > > ayamansa produces significantly different
> charts
> > > and dasas.
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone on this list investigated
> Tarun
> > > Chopra's proposal ?
> > > > >
> > > > > With regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Pratap
> > > > >
> > > > > rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in@...> wrote:
> > > > > Actually, I digressed, I am glad that
> Surya
> > > speaks from his
> > > > experiences.
> > > > > Your reply about spherical trigonometry
> made
> > > me look at another
> > > > point
> > > > > which has been there in the back of my
> mind.
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On 4/19/06, rishi shukla <rishi_2000in@...> wrote:
>
> Tarunji,
> Thanks for your response. There are two issues here,
> 1) That you are getting consistent results in
> horscopes using this ayanamsha, that states your
> personal experience and good for you.
> 2) The values you are discussing, now the date 1 Jan,
> 1155, I assume is a Julian date and not based on
> Gregorian calender. Secondly, you are assuming a
> linear progression of the ayanamsha with a value of
> 50.279 seconds since the inception of ayanamsha.
> Thirdly, the values in degrees, minutes and
> seconds...are you using swiss ephemeris using decimal
> places or are you using a particular software for it.
> An ayanamsha cannot merely begin on a particular date
> if a particular software displays a perfect match.
> Would like to know more of these points,thanks
>
> regards
> rishi
>
> --- Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@...> wrote:
>
> > Dear Rishi
> >
> > ok consider the today's date as the starting point
> > so the two zodiacs are
> > similar today if we assume this. Now calculate any
> > chart of century say date
> > 01-01-1800 or 01-01-1900 you will get the ayanamsha
> > value 00-00-00 which is
> > same as tropical one, so there will be no difference
> > between tropical or
> > sidereal zodiac. Now we have to find a year a long
> > back when the two zodiacs
> > were similar, lahiri gave the date 22/03/0285 check
> > at that time does both
> > zodiacs were similar see the difference in planetary
> > position check with all
> > others ayanamsha with their starting date you will
> > not find the similar
> > planetary position. Now if you try with my ayanamsha
> > you will find exact not
> > even a second difference.
> >
> > Ok do it differently now calculate the charts from
> > Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha
> > and when you get any event check what dasha is going
> > on at that time. You
> > will find that on that day only the dasha has
> > changed there will be so
> > perfect that event hour will also match now this
> > never happens with any
> > other ayanamsha.
> >
> > Don't follow any ayanamsha research on it you will
> > find that Tarun Chopra
> > Ayanamsha goes too perfect in timing of the events
> > and if you study the
> > horoscopes you will find the life will reflect from
> > Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha
> >
> > and you know lots of people who are good at
> > astrology has tried my ayanamsha
> > and they are getting perfect results which they did
> > not got from any other
> > ayanamsha.
> >
> > With regards
> >
> > Tarun Chopra
> > www.occultwizard.com
> >
> > Join for right astrology and right horoscope
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/divinelight/
> >
> > On 4/19/06, rishi shukla <rishi_2000in@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Tarunji,
> > > It shall be interesting to know why is your
> > ayanamsha
> > > correct. I have gone through the web pages on yuor
> > > site, you basically say that the coinciding point
> > of
> > > sayana planets and the nirayana should be the
> > same.
> > > Why then not start from today, why from jan 1,
> > 1100 or
> > > whatever date you have suggested.
> > > regards
> > > rishi
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Vedic Astrology is based on Sidereal Zodiac and
> > > > sidereal zodiac basic
> > > > foundation is Ayanamsha if the Ayanamsha is not
> > > > correct then the Horoscope
> > > > is also not correct.
> > > >
> > > > Are you still using wrong Ayanamsha to calculate
> > the
> > > > horoscopes? To get the
> > > > right Horoscope and to get the right results
> > from
> > > > Astrology, you are welcome
> > > > to join this Group of Astrology
> > > >
> > > > Tarun Chopra
> > > > www.occultwizard.com
> > > >
> > > > If you are not interested in joining the group
> > just
> > > > ignore this invitation.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 4/19/06, jyotish <jyotish.bh@...>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes Rishi
> > > > > You are correct.
> > > > > WE need to evolve ayanamsha that is
> > compatible
> > > > to different S/W today
> > > > > available.
> > > > > Lahiri, Raman, are being used by almost all
> > > > including JH, Kundli...
> > > > > JH 7.0 gives option of different Ayanamsha
> > and
> > > > these results are quite
> > > > > close to each other.
> > > > > One can't appreciate other Ayanamsha if the
> > same
> > > > does not fit into.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Rps
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: rishi_2000in
> > > > > To: Jyotish_Remedies (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:05 AM
> > > > > Subject: [JR] Re: Bhava Charts Vs Rashi
> > charts
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Pratap,
> > > > > Ayanamsha has been a contentious issue
> > amongst
> > > > most learned of the
> > > > > astrologers too.Mostly , the ayanamsha named
> > as
> > > > Chitrapaksha or
> > > > > Lahiri ayanamsha is followed which was
> > approved
> > > > by the Indian
> > > > > Government as a part of Rashtriya Panchang.
> > > > There are several other
> > > > > ayanamshas too including the Raman ayanamsha
> > > > quite commonly used.
> > > > > Most of these are within plus minus 3
> > degress of
> > > > the Lahiri value.
> > > > > Tarun Chopra claims an ayanamsa 12 degrees
> > away
> > > > from Lahiri.
> > > > > It is again a personal experience of his.
> > > > > regards
> > > > > rishi
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Jyotish_Remedies (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com,
> > Pratap
> > > > Kaneria
> > > > > <pkaneria@...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am also a student following your
> > > > discussions about bhav all
> > > > > day. If you allow me to pose a new
> > question...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have come across just recently a new
> > > > ayamansa proposed by
> > > > > Tarun Chopra who claims with some proof that
> > his
> > > > ayamansa is most
> > > > > accurate compared to the one's in use in
> > present
> > > > time. Everyone
> > > > > knows, that accurate predictions depends on
> > > > precise horoscope and
> > > > > dasa calculations. If you investigate, you
> > will
> > > > find that Chopra's
> > > > > ayamansa produces significantly different
> > charts
> > > > and dasas.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Has anyone on this list investigated
> > Tarun
> > > > Chopra's proposal ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pratap
> > > > > >
> > > > > > rishi_2000in <rishi_2000in@...> wrote:
> > > > > > Actually, I digressed, I am glad that
> > Surya
> > > > speaks from his
> > > > > experiences.
> > > > > > Your reply about spherical trigonometry
> > made
> > > > me look at another
> > > > > point
> > > > > > which has been there in the back of my
> > mind.
> === message truncated ===
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Thanks, do consider though that different softwares
give different results when you calculate in terms of
degrees, minutes and seconds. The programmed values
are displayed.
I am sure you will do well if you find that results
are consistent but.......the ayanamsha needs a more
structured logic then just coincidences. You have put
up an interesting viewpoint and one could also be that
January 3/4 is the perihelion date. Shall be glad to
know of the process by which you reached the date of
the beginning of your ayanamsha besides the fact that
the data tallies in a particular software.
regards
rishi

--- Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@...> wrote:

> I use Goravani astrology software for calculatation
> of charts
> www.goravani.com
>
> Tarun Chopra
>
> On 4/19/06, rishi shukla <rishi_2000in@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Tarunji,
> > Thanks for your response. There are two issues
> here,
> > 1) That you are getting consistent results in
> > horscopes using this ayanamsha, that states your
> > personal experience and good for you.
> > 2) The values you are discussing, now the date 1
> Jan,
> > 1155, I assume is a Julian date and not based on
> > Gregorian calender. Secondly, you are assuming a
> > linear progression of the ayanamsha with a value
> of
> > 50.279 seconds since the inception of ayanamsha.
> > Thirdly, the values in degrees, minutes and
> > seconds...are you using swiss ephemeris using
> decimal
> > places or are you using a particular software for
> it.
> > An ayanamsha cannot merely begin on a particular
> date
> > if a particular software displays a perfect match.
> > Would like to know more of these points,thanks
> >
> > regards
> > rishi
> >
> > --- Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Rishi
> > >
> > > ok consider the today's date as the starting
> point
> > > so the two zodiacs are
> > > similar today if we assume this. Now calculate
> any
> > > chart of century say date
> > > 01-01-1800 or 01-01-1900 you will get the
> ayanamsha
> > > value 00-00-00 which is
> > > same as tropical one, so there will be no
> difference
> > > between tropical or
> > > sidereal zodiac. Now we have to find a year a
> long
> > > back when the two zodiacs
> > > were similar, lahiri gave the date 22/03/0285
> check
> > > at that time does both
> > > zodiacs were similar see the difference in
> planetary
> > > position check with all
> > > others ayanamsha with their starting date you
> will
> > > not find the similar
> > > planetary position. Now if you try with my
> ayanamsha
> > > you will find exact not
> > > even a second difference.
> > >
> > > Ok do it differently now calculate the charts
> from
> > > Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha
> > > and when you get any event check what dasha is
> going
> > > on at that time. You
> > > will find that on that day only the dasha has
> > > changed there will be so
> > > perfect that event hour will also match now this
> > > never happens with any
> > > other ayanamsha.
> > >
> > > Don't follow any ayanamsha research on it you
> will
> > > find that Tarun Chopra
> > > Ayanamsha goes too perfect in timing of the
> events
> > > and if you study the
> > > horoscopes you will find the life will reflect
> from
> > > Tarun Chopra Ayanamsha
> > >
> > > and you know lots of people who are good at
> > > astrology has tried my ayanamsha
> > > and they are getting perfect results which they
> did
> > > not got from any other
> > > ayanamsha.
> > >
> > > With regards
> > >
> > > Tarun Chopra
> > > www.occultwizard.com
> > >
> > > Join for right astrology and right horoscope
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/divinelight/
> > >
> > > On 4/19/06, rishi shukla
> <rishi_2000in@...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Tarunji,
> > > > It shall be interesting to know why is your
> > > ayanamsha
> > > > correct. I have gone through the web pages on
> yuor
> > > > site, you basically say that the coinciding
> point
> > > of
> > > > sayana planets and the nirayana should be the
> > > same.
> > > > Why then not start from today, why from jan 1,
> > > 1100 or
> > > > whatever date you have suggested.
> > > > regards
> > > > rishi
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Tarun Chopra
> <occultwizard.tarun@...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Vedic Astrology is based on Sidereal Zodiac
> and
> > > > > sidereal zodiac basic
> > > > > foundation is Ayanamsha if the Ayanamsha is
> not
> > > > > correct then the Horoscope
> > > > > is also not correct.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you still using wrong Ayanamsha to
> calculate
> > > the
> > > > > horoscopes? To get the
> > > > > right Horoscope and to get the right results
> > > from
> > > > > Astrology, you are welcome
> > > > > to join this Group of Astrology
> > > > >
> > > > > Tarun Chopra
> > > > > www.occultwizard.com
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are not interested in joining the
> group
> > > just
> > > > > ignore this invitation.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 4/19/06, jyotish <jyotish.bh@...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes Rishi
> > > > > > You are correct.
> > > > > > WE need to evolve ayanamsha that is
> > > compatible
> > > > > to different S/W today
> > > > > > available.
> > > > > > Lahiri, Raman, are being used by almost
> all
> > > > > including JH, Kundli...
> > > > > > JH 7.0 gives option of different
> Ayanamsha
> > > and
> > > > > these results are quite
> > > > > > close to each other.
> > > > > > One can't appreciate other Ayanamsha if
> the
> > > same
> > > > > does not fit into.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > Rps
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: rishi_2000in
> > > > > > To: Jyotish_Remedies (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:05 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [JR] Re: Bhava Charts Vs Rashi
> > > charts
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pratap,
> > > > > > Ayanamsha has been a contentious issue
> > > amongst
> > > > > most learned of the
> > > > > > astrologers too.Mostly , the ayanamsha
> named
> > > as
> > > > > Chitrapaksha or
> > > > > > Lahiri ayanamsha is followed which was
> > > approved
>
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