Dear friend

The debate on your subject is getting lengthy but for good reason only. Someone
asked me why neechbhang rajayoga is not applied in your case because your mars
is in 8th house and the sign is leo. the lord of leo is in kendra that too in
lagna.

The rulebook says if a planet is debilitated but the lord of the sign is in
kendra, neechbhanga rajayoga is formed and the native gets benefic affect
instead of malefic affect of that debilitated planet.

However, it is often seen, out of my experience that if this neechbhang rajayog
appears in houses other than 6,8 and 12 it is fully effective. In 6th house, it
is 50% effective, in 12th house it is 25% effective and in 8th house, it is not
at all effective. The only exception is that of Sun's neechbhang happening in
these signs. Only Sun has been found 100% effective in such neechbhanga
rajayoga even in these three houses (6,8&12).

Other learned fraternity may kindly share their views on the above.

With best wishes

Arjun

Ashish Mathur <mathurastro@...> wrote:
Respected Arjun Ji,
It's all right, there is no problem now so I will not press on for mangal
clarification.
However just need to know a few basic things about Mangal dosh. Is it true
that the dosha gets nullified if Jupiter aspects the Mangal and also if the
mangal is in it's own house.
The reason I am asking is because I too have mangal in my 1st house , it is
also in 12th from venus and 8th from moon. However it gets an aspect from
Jupiter from 5th House. Does it gets cancelled.
Regards,
Ashish

On 5/24/05, arjun pandit <panditarjun2004@...> wrote:
>
> Dear friend
> There is no rule in astrology that one should not see a child's chart who
> is only one year old or few year's old. In fact in few cases, I checked the
> entire family members horoscopes to find out the rootcause of a problem. For
> example, if a child has mangal in his 9th house, his father's income would
> become half (or reduced) after the child's birth. The father would be
> wondering why his income got reduced or he got demoted though his dasa and
> current dasa are not indicating such and his planetary position is strong.
> So, unless there is a genuine problem, I personally do not read children's
> horoscopes.
> With best wishes
> Arjun
>
> Ashish Mathur <mathurastro@...> wrote:
> Respected Arjun Ji,
> Here are the details , basically what I wanted to know how malefic ashtam
> mangal is for Aries ascendent.
> Given below are chart details of my Son who is aries acendent and has
> retrograde mars in 8th.
> Sun -Saturn-Jupiter are in 2nd.
> Regards,
> Ashish Mathur
> Natal Chart
>
> Date: June 11, 2001
> Time: 3:21:00
> Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)
> Place: 1 W 12' 00", 52 N 03' 00"
> Altitude: 0.00 meters
>
> Lunar Yr-Mo: Vrisha - Jyeshtha
> Tithi: Krishna Panchami (Ju) (27.88% left)
> Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)
> Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (2.31% left)
> Yoga: Vaidhriti (Ju) (79.53% left)
> Karana: Taitula (Me) ( 55.77% left)
> Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Li)
> Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Cn)
> Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter)
>
> Sunrise: 4:52:11 (June 10)
> Sunset: 21:16:39 (June 10)
> Janma Ghatis: 56.2006
>
> Ayanamsa: 23-52-20.61
> Sidereal Time: 19:34:11
>
> Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa
>
> Lagna 26 Ar 28' 42.74" Bhar 4 Ar Sc
> Sun - BK 26 Ta 22' 16.22" Mrig 1 Ta Le
> Moon - MK 23 Cp 01' 30.86" Srav 4 Cp Cn
> Mars (R) - AK 29 Sc 44' 01.45" Jye 4 Sc Pi
> Mercury (R) - DK 4 Ge 27' 28.10" Mrig 4 Ge Sc
> Jupiter - AmK 28 Ta 51' 30.87" Mrig 2 Ta Vi
> Venus - GK 10 Ar 37' 02.24" Aswi 4 Ar Cn
> Saturn - PK 12 Ta 37' 45.94" Rohi 1 Ta Ar
> Rahu - PiK 13 Ge 16' 55.13" Ardr 2 Ge Cp
> Ketu 13 Sg 16' 55.13" Mool 4 Sg Cn
> Maandi 2 Cp 46' 50.49" USha 2 Cp Cp
> Gulika 23 Sg 41' 38.05" PSha 4 Sg Sc
> Uranus (R) 0 Aq 54' 07.40" Dhan 3 Aq Li
> Neptune (R) 14 Cp 39' 02.13" Srav 2 Cp Ta
> Pluto (R) 19 Sc 52' 02.58" Jye 1 Sc Sg
> Bhava Lagna 2 Ta 40' 45.89" Krit 2 Ta Cp
> Hora Lagna 9 Ar 52' 58.60" Aswi 3 Ar Ge
> Ghati Lagna 1 Aq 29' 36.72" Dhan 3 Aq Li
> Vighati Lagna 19 Aq 32' 47.35" Sata 4 Aq Pi
> Varnada Lagna 26 Ta 28' 42.74" Aswi 1 Ta Aq
> Sree Lagna 18 Ar 09' 35.94" Bhar 2 Ar Vi
> Pranapada Lagna 20 Li 26' 30.39" Visa 1 Li Ar
> Indu Lagna 23 Ge 01' 30.86" Puna 1 Ge Ar
> Dhooma 9 Li 42' 16.22" Swat 1 Li Sg
> Vyatipata 20 Vi 17' 43.78" Hast 4 Vi Cn
> Parivesha 20 Pi 17' 43.78" Reva 2 Pi Cp
> Indra Chapa 9 Ar 42' 16.22" Aswi 3 Ar Ge
> Upaketu 26 Ar 22' 16.22" Bhar 4 Ar Sc
> Kaala 27 Aq 19' 31.22" PBha 3 Aq Ge
> Mrityu 28 Ar 44' 55.29" Krit 1 Ar Sg
> Artha Prahara 18 Ta 28' 39.52" Rohi 3 Ta Ge
> Yama Ghantaka 2 Sg 09' 41.25" Mool 1 Sg Ar
> Prana Sphuta 6 Ta 05' 11.73" Krit 3 Ta Aq
> Deha Sphuta 27 Ge 53' 44.93" Puna 3 Ge Ge
> Mrityu Sphuta 12 Cn 13' 42.58" Push 3 Cn Li
> Sookshma TriSphuta 16 Sc 12' 39.23" Anu 4 Sc Sc
> TriSphuta 13 Sc 11' 51.65" Anu 3 Sc Li
> ChatusSphuta 9 Cp 34' 07.87" USha 4 Cp Pi
> PanchaSphuta 22 Pi 51' 03.00" Reva 2 Pi Cp
> V2 26 Ge 28' 42.74" Aswi 1 Ge Pi
> V3 26 Vi 28' 42.74" Aswi 1 Vi Aq
> V4 26 Li 28' 42.74" Aswi 1 Li Cn
> V5 26 Cp 28' 42.74" Aswi 1 Cp Li
> V6 26 Aq 28' 42.74" Aswi 1 Aq Cn
> V7 26 Ta 28' 42.74" Aswi 1 Ta Aq
> V8 26 Ge 28' 42.74" Aswi 1 Ge Pi
> V9 26 Vi 28' 42.74" Aswi 1 Vi Aq
> V10 26 Li 28' 42.74" Aswi 1 Li Cn
> V11 26 Cp 28' 42.74" Aswi 1 Cp Li
> V12 26 Aq 28' 42.74" Aswi 1 Aq Cn
> Kunda 14 Pi 45' 41.62" UBha 4 Pi Sc
>
> Rasi
> +-----------------------------------------------+
> | \ Ju Sa / \ / |
> | \ Su / \ / |
> | \ / \ / |
> | \ / Ve \ / |
> |AL \ / \ / |
> |MeR Ra x As x GL |
> | / \ / \ |
> | / \ HL / \ |
> | / \ / \ |
> | / \ 1 / Md \ |
> | / \ / \ |
> | x Mo |
> | \ / \ / |
> | \ / \ / |
> | \ / \ / |
> | \ / \ / |
> | \ / \ / |
> | x x Gk Ke |
> | / \ / \ |
> | / \ / \ |
> | / \ / \ |
> | / \ / MaR \ |
> | / \ / \ |
> +-----------------------------------------------+
>
> Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):
>
> Moon Moon 1991-09-06 Mars 1992-07-05 Rah 1993-02-02
> Jup 1994-08-06 Sat 1995-12-06 Merc 1997-07-05
> Ket 1998-12-05 Ven 1999-07-05 Sun 2001-03-03
> Mars Mars 2001-09-05 Rah 2002-01-30 Jup 2003-02-17
> Sat 2004-01-25 Merc 2005-03-04 Ket 2006-03-01
> Ven 2006-07-30 Sun 2007-10-01 Moon 2008-02-03
> Rah Rah 2008-09-05 Jup 2011-05-16 Sat 2013-10-12
> Merc 2016-08-18 Ket 2019-03-04 Ven 2020-03-21
> Sun 2023-03-22 Moon 2024-02-15 Mars 2025-08-18
> Jup Jup 2026-09-06 Sat 2028-10-24 Merc 2031-05-04
> Ket 2033-08-12 Ven 2034-07-18 Sun 2037-03-16
> Moon 2038-01-04 Mars 2039-05-04 Rah 2040-04-09
> Sat Sat 2042-09-06 Merc 2045-09-09 Ket 2048-05-16
> Ven 2049-06-26 Sun 2052-08-27 Moon 2053-08-09
> Mars 2055-03-07 Rah 2056-04-15 Jup 2059-02-20
> Merc Merc 2061-09-06 Ket 2064-01-31 Ven 2065-01-27
> Sun 2067-11-30 Moon 2068-10-06 Mars 2070-03-04
> Rah 2071-03-01 Jup 2073-09-21 Sat 2075-12-27
> Ket Ket 2078-09-06 Ven 2079-01-31 Sun 2080-03-31
> Moon 2080-08-09 Mars 2081-03-07 Rah 2081-08-06
> Jup 2082-08-25 Sat 2083-07-31 Merc 2084-09-09
> Ven Ven 2085-09-06 Sun 2089-01-04 Moon 2090-01-04
> Mars 2091-09-07 Rah 2092-11-06 Jup 2095-11-06
> Sat 2098-07-06 Merc 2101-09-07 Ket 2104-07-06
> Sun Sun 2105-09-07 Moon 2105-12-24 Mars 2106-06-24
> Rah 2106-11-01 Jup 2107-09-26 Sat 2108-07-13
> Merc 2109-06-24 Ket 2110-04-29 Ven 2110-09-07
>
>
>
> On 5/20/05, arjun pandit <panditarjun2004@...> wrote:
> >
> > I am not getting your chart as per the details given by you. Please
> > enclose the chart or just write down the planets and houses and the
> > acendant. From my software, I got it as cancer ascendant. Please list
> down
> > the planets/houses/signs.
> > With best wishes
> > Arjun
> >
> > *Ashish Mathur <mathurastro@...>* wrote:
> >
> > Respected Arjunji,
> > Thanks for looking I am unable to attach a chart but here are the
> details,
> > Date : 11-June-2001
> > Time : 03:21 AM BST ( -1 GMT )
> > Place : Ipswich -UK (
> > Lat: 52:03:22N (52.0561)
> > Lon: 1:08:59E (1.1497) Regards,
> > Ashish
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/20/05, arjun pandit < panditarjun2004@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear friend
> > > You must give the dob, tob and pob of your son because I have to see
> > where
> > > the Sun of your son is located!
> > > With best wishes
> > > Arjun
> > >
> > > arjun pandit <panditarjun2004@...> wrote:
> > > Dear friend
> > > Because of weekend, busy in office. You should get full answers by
> > Monday.
> > > With best wishes till then
> > > Arjun
> > >
> > > Ashish Mathur < mathurastro@...> wrote:
> > > Respected Arjun Ji,
> > > I assume Ashtam mangal is unfavorable, can you write a little about
> > ashtam
> > >
> > > mangal for Aries ascendant as here the mangal if in 8th house
> (Scorpio)
> > is
> > >
> > > also lord of the 8th house and 1st House.
> > > I am more interested in this because this is in case for my son, who
> is
> > > Aries ascendant and has Mars in 8th house(Scorpio), also it is
> > retrograde
> > > and Atmakarka. What should they signify ?
> > > Looking forward for your reply.
> > > Regards,
> > > Ashish
> > >
> > > On 5/20/05, arjun pandit < panditarjun2004@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Ms. Angel
> > > > Ashtam Mangal means Mangal (Mars) is in 8th house (bhav) from the
> > > > ascendant. This house is also called the House of Death.
> > > > With best wishes
> > > > Arjun
> > > >
> > > > angel <angelgoel@...> wrote:
> > > > Hi Arjun
> > > >
> > > > Can you pls explain what is ASTHAM MANGAL ? Is it
> > > > moon-mars are at distance of 8 houses.
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > > angel
> > > >
> > > > --- arjun pandit <panditarjun2004@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear Mithun
> > > > > Sun is in the ascendant and is the only planet in
> > > > > the kendra. Your lord of wealth (saturn) is in the
> > > > > house of fortune. But lords of gains and comforts
> > > > > in the house of death along with the Ashtam Mangal.
> > > > > You are a manglik.
> > > > >
> > > > > All your problems are caused ONLY by the Ashtam
> > > > > mangal. Karkotak kaalsarp yog only complimented it.
> > > > > If I describe the malefic affect and the unique
> > > > > significance of ashtam mangal, it takes several
> > > > > pages. In ordinary course by just being a manglik,
> > > > > your luck would have started after 28 years of age.
> > > > >
> > > > > But unfortunately because you have an astham mangal
> > > > > which is malefic, eversince Mars dasa has started
> > > > > after your 20 years, you have started witnessing his
> > > > > torture. Unfortunately, for a native like you, the
> > > > > ashtam mangal also gives his bad affect during the
> > > > > period of 28 to 36 years. This means double whammy
> > > > > i.e. instead of 8 years affect, it is 8+8. your
> > > > > brother would also be affected by this.
> > > > > Being in sun's leo, the negative affect which you
> > > > > are suffering is less.
> > > > > The brighter side is that Sun is the only helping
> > > > > planet for Mars and whenever sun's antardasa comes
> > > > > in Mars, it would give reprieve to you. There are
> > > > > several great positive yogas in your life but they
> > > > > would come only when mars is not in the picture.
> > > > > If you are not yet married, kindly delay it for
> > > > > sometime.
> > > > > In the entire astrological science, be it vedic or
> > > > > lalkitab, highest number of remedies were given only
> > > > > for ashtam mangal (more than hundred remedies). So,
> > > > > without wasting time, please start the following few
> > > > > remedies immediately for quick relief:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Keep fast on 28 tuesdays and visit hanuman mandir
> > > > > on all tuesdays.
> > > > > 2. For 8 tuesdays, offer/smear sindoor on lord
> > > > > hanuman, besides distributing batashas (sweetcakes)
> > > > > at lord hanuman mandir and chant hanuman chalisa
> > > > > every day.
> > > > > 2. Keep sweets in your house always, and offer them
> > > > > to all visitors and also distribute sweets to all
> > > > > your female relatives.
> > > > > 3. Throw 800gm of gud and 800gm of gud-til rewadi in
> > > > > running water (river/canal) only once during
> > > > > daytime.
> > > > > 4. To seek help of sun, give arghya in a copperglass
> > > > > along with a red flower every morning and chant "Om
> > > > > Ghruney Suryaya Namaha" 11 times. Also chant
> > > > > "Aditya Hridayam" every sunday morning. Also chant
> > > > > Gayatri manta 108 times every day in the morning.
> > > > > 5. Offer chana and gud to monkeys on 8 tuesdays and
> > > > > sweetbread/sweetrotis to black dog for 8 tuesdays.
> > > > >
> > > > > Above measures have been tested, tried and proven
> > > > > true/benefic by several people suffering from
> > > > > similar astam mangal affliction.
> > > > >
> > > > > With best wishes
> > > > > Arjun
> > > > >
> > > > > mithunmclaren < mithunmclaren@...> wrote:
> > > > > Dear freinds
> > > > > My Name is MITHUN.My birth date is 04/02/1980
> > > > > at 5:30 A.m at
> > > > > Thane
> > > > > city,maharashtra.I belong to capricorn lagna.The
> > > > > Details are:
> > > > > HOUSE PLANETS
> > > > > 1st house(capricorn lagna) SUN
> > > > > 2nd house (kumbh)
> > > > > Mercury+shukra+ketu
> > > > > 3rd/4th/5th house Empty
> > > > > 6th/7th Empty
> > > > > 8th house(simha)
> > > > > Jupiter+moon+mars+rahu
> > > > > 9th house(kanya) saturn,pluto
> > > > > 10th Uranus
> > > > >
> > > > > My Jupiter is in Vargottam.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have done MBA+B.E from mumbai university.The
> > > > > problem is getting a
> > > > > good job.My SUN mahadas from Aug 1985 to Aug 1991
> > > > > was so far the
> > > > > golden period.The moon mahadasa was good for
> > > > > eductation.Since my
> > > > > MARS MAHADASA(aug 2001 after my engineeering) there
> > > > > have been hell
> > > > > lot of problems in Getting job/bad luck/Failure
> > > > > despite putting extra
> > > > > efforts.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a lowly paid job which doesnt reflect my
> > > > >
> > > > > Qualifications.My Dad,s business is completely in
> > > > > Doldrums and im the
> > > > > only earning memeber.Ive even tried remedies for
> > > > > kaal sarp.Pls
> > > > > suggest a way out as I am in deep trouble.Currently
> > > > > I am going
> > > > > through MARS MAHADASA+mercury antardasha(since april
> > > > > 22,2005).
> > > > > Name : mithun
> > > > > moon sig: leo
> > > > > lagna : capricorn
> > > > > nakshatra: poorvaphalguni
> > > > >
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