UG krishnamurti's horoscope

June 16, 2005

Dear Acharya Vasudev,

Thanks for your fine analysis. Jyotish is really amazing especially

the interpretations of the chart from different perspectives.

Regarding enlightenment maybe i will hope for it (or is it that u get

it when you are totally hopeless). Your are right about my inclination

about the interpretations about my spiritual inclinations. I have

dabbled in many practices of different traditions with some

interesting experiences. And of course I havent been consistent in my

practise.

Since I have broken the ice, I think I will participate more actively

in this group.

On another note, I have been in close proximity with many mystics and

teachers. Most notable being UG Krishnamurti, the iconoclastic sage,

philosopher or mystic (or whatever many people choose to call him.).

I am giving his birth info for analysis in this group. It is an

extremely interesting chart and also his life story corresponds quite

accurately to classical interpretations.

U.G. Krishnamurti

DOB: July 9, 1918

Time: 06:12 AM

Place: Gudiwada, near masulipatanam, Andra Pradesh

Long: 81E08

Lat: 16N11

Regards,

Vasu

On 6/15/05, V. Vasudev Acharya <acharya.vasudev wrote:

> Dear Vasu,

>

> Welcome in the group.You finally have decided to actively partcipate

> in the group.

>

> First the heartbreak..

> Actually I consider you quite a luck person as you had a 4 year long

> courtship.Finally it got crushed under Saturn as Saturn is aspecting

> your 5th house adversely.Your 5th lord is placed in 12th from it's

> rashi and making shadashataka(6th/8th) relationship with the dasha

> lord.Venus the karaka for females is your 11th lord the badhaka for

> your lagna and acting as functional malefic for you, moreover it is

> placed with 12th and 3rd lord Mercury in the house of love affairs

> itself.Venus is paying heavily for letting residing Mars and Saturn

> in it's signs.

>

> Now the Yoga and meditation..

>

> I am inclined to believe that you might have been doing yoga and

> meditation in Jupiter dasha akso.It may be only like that you were

> not pursuing with regularity as your Jupiter is placed in 6th

> house,sometimes may give you lethargy,because of that probably you

> couldn't pursue it regularly.But I am afraid that even at this time

> you will do it on regular basis.Mars aspect over Saturn may have

> done a catalyst work but it may be shortlived.Anyway I wish that it

> go long and long and long.

>

> Spiritualism etc..

>

> What I like is the cluster of planets along Rahu-Ketu axis.Lagna

> lord Moon is placed with moksha karaka Ketu aspected by Jupiter the

> karaka for wisdom.I believe that because of your past karmas you are

> here practising Spiritualism in it's true sense.The mutual aspect of

> Jupiter and Moon,your lagna and 9th lords,although in 6th house will

> make you an enlightened person.

>

> Marriage and Love...

>

> The 5th lord 12th from it's rashi and badly aspected by Ketu,making

> 6th/8th relationship with Saturn,your 7th lord.I am inclined to

> believe that there is no love-marriage in your case.Atleast a long

> courtship is ruled out and you will have a marriage on a very short

> notice because of Mars aspect on 7th house and 7th lord both.

>

> Thanks and more in later posts

>

> Acharya Vasudev

> http://www.acharyavasudev.com

> acharya.vasudev

>

jyotish-vidya, "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas@j...>

> wrote:

> > Dear Vasu,

> >

> > Thank you for clearing that up :-))

> >

> > First I might comment on the fact that you find yourself drawn

> > towards Yoga and Meditation since the onset of Saturn dasa. Saturn

> > is enjoying mutual aspect with his dispositor Venus who occupies

> 5th

> > house of spiritual practices, mantras etc. whilst also receiving

> the

> > aspect of 5th lord Mars...

> >

> > You might like to concentrate solely on the intent of Saturn

> > considering his meditative nature (MahaYogi) and the support given

> > to his intentions before focusing on the rest of the chart.

> >

> > 1) Venus, in 5th, is dispositor of both Saturn and 5th lord Mars.

> > 2) 3rd lord of intentions & support for intentions (Mercury) in

> 5th,

> > is dispositor of lagnesh Moon and Ketu.

> > 3) Both VE & ME, along with lagna, occupy nakshatra of Saturn

> > himself.

> > 4) The mutual aspect of moksha lords VE, ME & SA.

> > 5) The maha parivartana (great) yoga formed by exchange of 4th/5th

> > lords.

> >

> > This, of course, is just one side of the coin. The other is

> malefic

> > Saturn's propensity for disappointments and grief through the

> > changes (separations) he can undoubtedly thrust upon you due to

> his

> > lordship of 8th...such as the ending of a four year relationship

> > with your girlfriend.

> >

> > If I may I'll leave you to think on these things for awhile and

> > perhaps you'd like to put forward your own thoughts (when you're

> > ready) before we continue.

> >

> > I'm sure you're eager for other's input as well :-))

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > ______________________________

> >

> > Dear Wendy,

> > I am not the same person as acharya.vasudeva@g... It is a

> > matter

> > of coincidence that another person with the same name is also in

> > this

> > group.

> >

> > Acharya is my family name and Vasudeva is my name. I come from a

> > family of vedic scholars (my grandfather whose name i share was a

> > renowed scholar in dwaitha vedanta.). I prefer to be called vasu.

> >

> > I am a software professional working in a well know publishing

> > company

> > and have no claims on authority over many of the scriptural matters

> > regarding astrology (I understand that my namesake is quite

> > authoritative in his outlook towards jyotish).

> >

> > My aim here in this group is to participate and get a deeper

> > understanding of jyotish through the discussions. Some of the

> > jyotish

> > books I have read and have in my library are

> >

> > Most books of BV Raman and his daughter

> > Astrology of the seers by David Frawley

> > Light on Life by Svaboda.

> > Astrology books by V.K. Chowdhari

> > BPHS by GC Sharma

> > Astrology by ND Shrimali

> > Surya Siddhanta - Not sure of the author - I was also intrested in

> > the

> > astronomy part of astrology but not had much time to study. I was

> > planning to build an astrology software with the open source swiss

> > ephemeris. But have left it half way.

> > And many other books. I also plan to start studying the KP system.

> >

> > I would also like to add that I am in admiration of the kind of

> > mails

> > and intrepretations you have been doing in this group.

> > I would request you to kindly help me in interpreting my chart.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Vasu

Links

>

June 19, 2005

Dear Vasu,

I came across the horoscope of U.G. Krishnamurti some years ago and

did look at it briefly after reading some information about his

enlightenment on the web. However I never really studied it deeply

as the interest wasn't great at the time.

My interest was triggered again when you posted his details and I've

been looking over his chart in reference to the information (on the

Web) about his life. I've tried in vain however to find any site

that actually confirms his time of birth. Can you tell me the source

of the time you have and (importantly) it's authenticity as there

are many things that lead me to believe he has Taurus lagna (not

Gemini).

According to information I have his mother died shortly after his

birth and he was raised by his maternal grandparents. This suggests

Ketu, significator for maternal grandparents, occupying lagna.

Another important fact is the nature of his enlightenment; It was a

very physical experience which he described as 'terrible physical

torture' and for some years preceding the event he was

afflicted with constant headaches...pointing again to MokshaKaraka

Ketu conjunct lagna lord Venus in lagna...1st house governs head

etc. This all transpired during the mahadasa of Venus.

Do you happen to have a precise timeline of events that can be used

to rectify his T.O.B. i.e, marriage, separation, birth of children

etc..

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

On another note, I have been in close proximity with many mystics

and

teachers. Most notable being UG Krishnamurti, the iconoclastic sage,

philosopher or mystic (or whatever many people choose to call him.).

I am giving his birth info for analysis in this group. It is an

extremely interesting chart and also his life story corresponds

quite

accurately to classical interpretations.

U.G. Krishnamurti

DOB: July 9, 1918

Time: 06:12 AM

Place: Gudiwada, near masulipatanam, Andra Pradesh

Long: 81E08

Lat: 16N11

Regards,

Vasu

June 20, 2005

Dear Wendy,

The time of UGs birth was given by UG himself to me.

UG finds a great intrest in astrology and palmistry, which is strange

because his is a nihilistic teaching. There are lots of astrologers

and palmists who hang around UG. Let me briefly give u some of the

major events of his life:

UGs mother died a week after he was born. He was brought up by his

wealthy grandparents. His grandfather was a key member of the

theosophical society and used to host many religious heads like Annie

Beasant, Shankaracharya of Kanchi, sringeri etc. UG had an interaction

with lot of these people and he wanted to be a sanyasi (which he says

was more due to the pomp, power and glory of the shankarachayas more

than any thing else). The first phase of his life till he was 21 UG

practised many sadhanas. He studied yoga under Swami Sivanada

saraswathi of rishikesh. Many of his friends (who are still alive) say

that he was very harsh and strict on himself while practising

asceticism. This was during his saturn main period. He also did his MA

in philosophy from madras university and some of his illustrious

teachers were Dr Radhakrishnan (philosopher and former president of

india) and TMP Mahadevan. UG however had many setbacks in his

education and somehow he managed to get his MA degree (during his

ME-Me phase). He also met many sages like Ramana Maharishi. The two

most important influences in his life were Ramana and Jiddu

Krishnamurthi. With JK he had a love-hate relationship. I guess he was

highly influenced and challenged by his teachings.

UG worked as an international lecturer in theosophical society after

he was 21 till he was about 35. During this period he also travelled

extensively. UG is an excellent speaker and has all the qualities of a

good orator (His second house has Moon, Saturn and Mercury the lagna

lord). I think saturn in the second and Sun in the ascendent make him

a harsh and fiery speaker who is extremely critical of set norms.UG

got married when he was 25 and his married life lasted as long as his

mercury dasha lasted. UG had four children out of which one son had

polio (5th lord mercury with saturn and also 5th house hemmed between

two malefics rahu and mars). UG relocated to america to treat his Son

of polio for which he spent a fortune. UG abandoned his family at the

start of his ketu dasha and he was wandering peniless like a mad man

in london. His wife died a few years later. She went insane in the

last years of her life. He says during this time he was like a leaf

blown in the wind and he had no will of his own. It was during this

time he had many mystical experiences. UG finally met a woman called

Valentine with whom he settled down in Switzerland (this was in the

beggining of his venus dasha). UG had his spiritual transformnation

(or clamity as he terms it) in his 49th year. A couple of years after

this event UG has been travelling all over the world meeting people

informally and holding informal discussions.

This is in brief the life story of UG. Some more details of UG is he

is an extremely healthy person for his age. Now in his late 80s he has

all his senses intact and extremely attentive and aware of everything.

He can read without glasses, has an excellent sense of hearing. He is

highly energetic and healthy and has never been to a doctor for many

decades. He does not practise any exercises and he is very frugal in

eating.

Regards,

Vasu

On 6/19/05, Wendy Vasicek <wenvas wrote:

> Dear Vasu,

>

> I came across the horoscope of U.G. Krishnamurti some years ago and

> did look at it briefly after reading some information about his

> enlightenment on the web. However I never really studied it deeply

> as the interest wasn't great at the time.

>

> My interest was triggered again when you posted his details and I've

> been looking over his chart in reference to the information (on the

> Web) about his life. I've tried in vain however to find any site

> that actually confirms his time of birth. Can you tell me the source

> of the time you have and (importantly) it's authenticity as there

> are many things that lead me to believe he has Taurus lagna (not

> Gemini).

>

> According to information I have his mother died shortly after his

> birth and he was raised by his maternal grandparents. This suggests

> Ketu, significator for maternal grandparents, occupying lagna.

> Another important fact is the nature of his enlightenment; It was a

> very physical experience which he described as 'terrible physical

> torture' and for some years preceding the event he was

> afflicted with constant headaches...pointing again to MokshaKaraka

> Ketu conjunct lagna lord Venus in lagna...1st house governs head

> etc. This all transpired during the mahadasa of Venus.

>

> Do you happen to have a precise timeline of events that can be used

> to rectify his T.O.B. i.e, marriage, separation, birth of children

> etc..

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ______________________________

>

> On another note, I have been in close proximity with many mystics

> and

> teachers. Most notable being UG Krishnamurti, the iconoclastic sage,

> philosopher or mystic (or whatever many people choose to call him.).

>

> I am giving his birth info for analysis in this group. It is an

> extremely interesting chart and also his life story corresponds

> quite

> accurately to classical interpretations.

>

> U.G. Krishnamurti

> DOB: July 9, 1918

> Time: 06:12 AM

> Place: Gudiwada, near masulipatanam, Andra Pradesh

> Long: 81E08

> Lat: 16N11

>

> Regards,

> Vasu

>

> Links

>

June 20, 2005

Sorry some mistakes UGs fifth lord is Venus which is in the 12th with

ketu. UG also has seen his son die of cancer in the early 80s.

On 6/20/05, Vasudeva Acharya <vasudeva.acharya wrote:

> Dear Wendy,

>

> The time of UGs birth was given by UG himself to me.

> UG finds a great intrest in astrology and palmistry, which is strange

> because his is a nihilistic teaching. There are lots of astrologers

> and palmists who hang around UG. Let me briefly give u some of the

> major events of his life:

>

> UGs mother died a week after he was born. He was brought up by his

> wealthy grandparents. His grandfather was a key member of the

> theosophical society and used to host many religious heads like Annie

> Beasant, Shankaracharya of Kanchi, sringeri etc. UG had an interaction

> with lot of these people and he wanted to be a sanyasi (which he says

> was more due to the pomp, power and glory of the shankarachayas more

> than any thing else). The first phase of his life till he was 21 UG

> practised many sadhanas. He studied yoga under Swami Sivanada

> saraswathi of rishikesh. Many of his friends (who are still alive) say

> that he was very harsh and strict on himself while practising

> asceticism. This was during his saturn main period. He also did his MA

> in philosophy from madras university and some of his illustrious

> teachers were Dr Radhakrishnan (philosopher and former president of

> india) and TMP Mahadevan. UG however had many setbacks in his

> education and somehow he managed to get his MA degree (during his

> ME-Me phase). He also met many sages like Ramana Maharishi. The two

> most important influences in his life were Ramana and Jiddu

> Krishnamurthi. With JK he had a love-hate relationship. I guess he was

> highly influenced and challenged by his teachings.

> UG worked as an international lecturer in theosophical society after

> he was 21 till he was about 35. During this period he also travelled

> extensively. UG is an excellent speaker and has all the qualities of a

> good orator (His second house has Moon, Saturn and Mercury the lagna

> lord). I think saturn in the second and Sun in the ascendent make him

> a harsh and fiery speaker who is extremely critical of set norms.UG

> got married when he was 25 and his married life lasted as long as his

> mercury dasha lasted. UG had four children out of which one son had

> polio (5th lord mercury with saturn and also 5th house hemmed between

> two malefics rahu and mars). UG relocated to america to treat his Son

> of polio for which he spent a fortune. UG abandoned his family at the

> start of his ketu dasha and he was wandering peniless like a mad man

> in london. His wife died a few years later. She went insane in the

> last years of her life. He says during this time he was like a leaf

> blown in the wind and he had no will of his own. It was during this

> time he had many mystical experiences. UG finally met a woman called

> Valentine with whom he settled down in Switzerland (this was in the

> beggining of his venus dasha). UG had his spiritual transformnation

> (or clamity as he terms it) in his 49th year. A couple of years after

> this event UG has been travelling all over the world meeting people

> informally and holding informal discussions.

>

> This is in brief the life story of UG. Some more details of UG is he

> is an extremely healthy person for his age. Now in his late 80s he has

> all his senses intact and extremely attentive and aware of everything.

> He can read without glasses, has an excellent sense of hearing. He is

> highly energetic and healthy and has never been to a doctor for many

> decades. He does not practise any exercises and he is very frugal in

> eating.

>

> Regards,

> Vasu

>

> On 6/19/05, Wendy Vasicek <wenvas wrote:

> > Dear Vasu,

> >

> > I came across the horoscope of U.G. Krishnamurti some years ago and

> > did look at it briefly after reading some information about his

> > enlightenment on the web. However I never really studied it deeply

> > as the interest wasn't great at the time.

> >

> > My interest was triggered again when you posted his details and I've

> > been looking over his chart in reference to the information (on the

> > Web) about his life. I've tried in vain however to find any site

> > that actually confirms his time of birth. Can you tell me the source

> > of the time you have and (importantly) it's authenticity as there

> > are many things that lead me to believe he has Taurus lagna (not

> > Gemini).

> >

> > According to information I have his mother died shortly after his

> > birth and he was raised by his maternal grandparents. This suggests

> > Ketu, significator for maternal grandparents, occupying lagna.

> > Another important fact is the nature of his enlightenment; It was a

> > very physical experience which he described as 'terrible physical

> > torture' and for some years preceding the event he was

> > afflicted with constant headaches...pointing again to MokshaKaraka

> > Ketu conjunct lagna lord Venus in lagna...1st house governs head

> > etc. This all transpired during the mahadasa of Venus.

> >

> > Do you happen to have a precise timeline of events that can be used

> > to rectify his T.O.B. i.e, marriage, separation, birth of children

> > etc..

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > ______________________________

> >

> > On another note, I have been in close proximity with many mystics

> > and

> > teachers. Most notable being UG Krishnamurti, the iconoclastic sage,

> > philosopher or mystic (or whatever many people choose to call him.).

> >

> > I am giving his birth info for analysis in this group. It is an

> > extremely interesting chart and also his life story corresponds

> > quite

> > accurately to classical interpretations.

> >

> > U.G. Krishnamurti

> > DOB: July 9, 1918

> > Time: 06:12 AM

> > Place: Gudiwada, near masulipatanam, Andra Pradesh

> > Long: 81E08

> > Lat: 16N11

> >

> > Regards,

> > Vasu

> >

> > Links

> >

>

June 20, 2005

Dear Vasu,

Thank you for that! Certainly as the T.O.B. was given to you

personally it must be accepted as authentic. I note too that Jupiter

in lagna (Gemini chart) owns 4th from 4th (maternal grandmother).

However the nature of his enlightenment, if we might call it that,

certainly needs more reflection.. hopefully I can look more at the

chart tomorrow.

Thank you also for the life history. I too have found this on the

web...was hoping maybe that you might have some more precise dates.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

______________________________

Dear Wendy,

The time of UGs birth was given by UG himself to me.

UG finds a great intrest in astrology and palmistry, which is

strange

because his is a nihilistic teaching. There are lots of astrologers

and palmists who hang around UG. Let me briefly give u some of the

major events of his life:

UGs mother died a week after he was born. He was brought up by his

wealthy grandparents. His grandfather was a key member of the

theosophical society and used to host many religious heads like

Annie

Beasant, Shankaracharya of Kanchi, sringeri etc. UG had an

interaction

with lot of these people and he wanted to be a sanyasi (which he

says

was more due to the pomp, power and glory of the shankarachayas more

than any thing else). The first phase of his life till he was 21 UG

practised many sadhanas. He studied yoga under Swami Sivanada

saraswathi of rishikesh. Many of his friends (who are still alive)

say

that he was very harsh and strict on himself while practising

asceticism. This was during his saturn main period. He also did his

MA

in philosophy from madras university and some of his illustrious

teachers were Dr Radhakrishnan (philosopher and former president of

india) and TMP Mahadevan. UG however had many setbacks in his

education and somehow he managed to get his MA degree (during his

ME-Me phase). He also met many sages like Ramana Maharishi. The two

most important influences in his life were Ramana and Jiddu

Krishnamurthi. With JK he had a love-hate relationship. I guess he

was

highly influenced and challenged by his teachings.

UG worked as an international lecturer in theosophical society after

he was 21 till he was about 35. During this period he also travelled

extensively. UG is an excellent speaker and has all the qualities of

a

good orator (His second house has Moon, Saturn and Mercury the lagna

lord). I think saturn in the second and Sun in the ascendent make

him

a harsh and fiery speaker who is extremely critical of set norms.UG

got married when he was 25 and his married life lasted as long as

his

mercury dasha lasted. UG had four children out of which one son had

polio (5th lord mercury with saturn and also 5th house hemmed

between

two malefics rahu and mars). UG relocated to america to treat his

Son

of polio for which he spent a fortune. UG abandoned his family at

the

start of his ketu dasha and he was wandering peniless like a mad man

in london. His wife died a few years later. She went insane in the

last years of her life. He says during this time he was like a leaf

blown in the wind and he had no will of his own. It was during this

time he had many mystical experiences. UG finally met a woman called

Valentine with whom he settled down in Switzerland (this was in the

beggining of his venus dasha). UG had his spiritual transformnation

(or clamity as he terms it) in his 49th year. A couple of years

after

this event UG has been travelling all over the world meeting people

informally and holding informal discussions.

This is in brief the life story of UG. Some more details of UG is he

is an extremely healthy person for his age. Now in his late 80s he

has

all his senses intact and extremely attentive and aware of

everything.

He can read without glasses, has an excellent sense of hearing. He

is

highly energetic and healthy and has never been to a doctor for many

decades. He does not practise any exercises and he is very frugal in

eating.

Regards,

Vasu

June 20, 2005

Dear Vasu,

Thank you for that! Certainly as the T.O.B. was given to you

personally it must be accepted as authentic. I do note that Jupiter

in lagna (Gemini chart) owns 4th from 4th (maternal grandmother).

However the nature of his enlightenment, if we might call it that,

certainly needs more reflection.. hopefully tomorrow, time

permiting, I can look at the rest of the chart...my focus has not

really gone beyond lagna as I was hoping to find some significant

events with precise dates before looking at the rest of the chart.