Hello Everyone, Namaste

I am a beginner to Jyotish and would like to understand a placement in my
chart. I have no one in South Africa who I can refer to as there are no
qualified Jyotishis here and hence have to rely on all you wonderful souls
to assist in learning.

I have Saturn conjunct Mercury in my second house in Pisces. Does this
bring about a limitation of ones earning potential. I am currently in my
Jupiter Mahadasha, so would my earning capacity change when I enter my
Saturn Mahadasha in a few years time, in Jan 2012??

Also, what are my career potentials with Ketu in the 10th. I have been
interested in all things esoteric since December 2002.

My birth details are:

Bipin Prag (Male)
DOB: 24 April 1966
Time: 1:30am (accurate birth time) -2 EET
Place : Pretoria Cape Town, South Africa, 28E10, 25S45

Thank you all for your wonderful contributions, even if we don't reply, just
remember that some of us do read them as they are great for learning and
studying Jyotish.

All the Best

Bipin
Cape Town, South Africa


Main Classifications
-----------------------------------------------------
Moon Sign: Taurus
Rising Sign: Aquarius
Sun Sign: Aries
Moon Star (Nakshatra): Rohini Pada (Quarter): 3
Tithi 4th Tithi-Chaturthi of Waxing Moon
Yoga 5th-Sobhana
Karan 7th-Vanija

Planet Ret Sign (Rasi) Degrees Nakshatras
-----------------------------------------------------
Ascendant Aquarius 2° 52' Dhanistha
Sun Aries 9° 57' Ashwini
Moon Taurus 17° 0' Rohini
Mars Aries 11° 10' Ashwini
Mercury Pisces 13° 16' Uttarabhadrap
Jupiter Gemini 4° 29' Mrgashira
Venus Aquarius 24° 26' Purvabhadrapa
Saturn Pisces 1° 39' Purvabhadrapa
Rahu Taurus 1° 58' Krttika
Ketu Scorpio 1° 58' Visakha



North Indian Style Rasi Chart for Bipin Prag

************************************************** *****
** * * **
* * SAT * * * *
* * MER * * * *
* SUN * * * * *
* * * * * *
* MAR * PIS* * CAP* *
* ARI** **SAG *
* * * VEN LAG * * *
* * * * * *
* * RAH * * * *
* * * * * *
* * * AQU * * *
* * * * * *
* MOO TAU * SCO *
* * * * * *
* * * LEO * * *
* * * * KET * *
* JUP * * * * *
* * * * * *
* * * * * *
* GEM** **LIB *
* * CAN* * VIR* *
* * * * * *
* * * * * *
* * * * * *
* * * * * *
** * * **
************************************************** *****

Dear Bepin
>
> I have Saturn conjunct Mercury in my second house in Pisces. Does this
> bring about a limitation of ones earning potential.

Saturn is helpful simce it is primarily the Lord of Lagna and is on the
rising degree . Mercury is primarily the 8th Lord and is debilitated and so
is not helpful generally .There may be periods of frustration in terms of
wealth and status .



I am currently in my
> Jupiter Mahadasha,

Jupiter should be helpful as it closely aspects the rising degree in the
11th .Are you doing for the most part all right at the moment ?


so would my earning capacity change when I enter my
> Saturn Mahadasha in a few years time, in Jan 2012??

Saturn looks to be harder . It is in infancy and it gets a close aspect of
Ketu . The Ketu Saturn conjunction then falls in the 10th in Navamsa .
>
> Also, what are my career potentials with Ketu in the 10th. I have been
> interested in all things esoteric since December 2002.

Ketu is also on the rising degree of the 10th house causing an affliction .
There may be changes of jobs or one might have to wait a long time to get
the results of his hard work . You started Ketu Bhukti in December 2002 and
Ketu is quite a spiritual and philosophical planet .People with Ketuin 10th
are more inclined to study than climbing corporate ladders .Jupiter on the
rising degree in the 5th would make one very interested in accumulating
sacred knowledge and wisdom .Interesting chart that you have there is a
dichotomy between the attainment of wealth income and status and the
persuit of spiritual lore .Best of luck resolving it !
Hope this helps
Nicholas

Dear Nicholas

Thank you for the wonderful reply. You put a lot of things in
perspective for me. I am doing just fine at the moment. My only
frustration is what I guess Saturn is the cause is limiting my
income. I have sufficient to get me by, only thing is that I want to
have at least build up sufficient capital for say 3 years so that I
can study Jyotish Full time - that is my real wish - who know it may
happen some day.

Could you recommend what gemstone I should use. Am I correct in
saying that I should were a Yello Sapphire or Citrine for Jupiter
seeing that I am in my Jupiter Mahadasha or should I be wearing
Emerald for Mercury disposition. I read that one has to be careful
wearing Blue Sapphire for Saturn, but with it being strong in my
chart would it be beneficial to me.

Many thanks again and I do appreciate the feedback.

All the Best

Bipin

ps: Bye the way where do you reside what part of the world are you
from??


--- In gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Nicholas" <jyotish108@h...> wrote:
> Dear Bepin
> >
> > I have Saturn conjunct Mercury in my second house in Pisces.
Does this
> > bring about a limitation of ones earning potential.
>
> Saturn is helpful simce it is primarily the Lord of Lagna and is on
the
> rising degree . Mercury is primarily the 8th Lord and is
debilitated and so
> is not helpful generally .There may be periods of frustration in
terms of
> wealth and status .
>
>
>
> I am currently in my
> > Jupiter Mahadasha,
>
> Jupiter should be helpful as it closely aspects the rising degree
in the
> 11th .Are you doing for the most part all right at the moment ?
>
>
> so would my earning capacity change when I enter my
> > Saturn Mahadasha in a few years time, in Jan 2012??
>
> Saturn looks to be harder . It is in infancy and it gets a close
aspect of
> Ketu . The Ketu Saturn conjunction then falls in the 10th in
Navamsa .
> >
> > Also, what are my career potentials with Ketu in the 10th. I
have been
> > interested in all things esoteric since December 2002.
>
> Ketu is also on the rising degree of the 10th house causing an
affliction .
> There may be changes of jobs or one might have to wait a long time
to get
> the results of his hard work . You started Ketu Bhukti in December
2002 and
> Ketu is quite a spiritual and philosophical planet .People with
Ketuin 10th
> are more inclined to study than climbing corporate ladders .Jupiter
on the
> rising degree in the 5th would make one very interested in
accumulating
> sacred knowledge and wisdom .Interesting chart that you have there
is a
> dichotomy between the attainment of wealth income and status and
the
> persuit of spiritual lore .Best of luck resolving it !
> Hope this helps
> Nicholas

Dear Mr. Bipin,

As Mr. Nicholas has already replied to your queries, I am adding a little.

Although Saturn is your benefic planet but its weakness and it is afflicted
by malefic Ketu can cause obstructions in desired status through profession,
gains, social esteem and fear/problem in health & longevity.

The current period of Jupiter/Ketu till Dec.2003 seems to be obstructive &
difficult. The coming subperiod of Venus will bring some benefic change but
it will have some limitations as Venus is placed in the house of afflicted
Saturn. The coming main period of afflicted Saturn will be more difficult
than the current one of benefic well placed Jupiter.

Strengthening of Saturn by wearing of Blue Sapphire /Kavach and performing
of propitiations for malefic Rahu,Ketu will be helpful.

With best Wishes.

Narinder Juneja.
www.MyWebAstrologer.com
K-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2,
Gurgaon-122002, Haryana.
INDIA
Ph.91-124-2564567, 5014567,
mobile-091-9810058186

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bipin Prag" <bipin.prag@...>
To: <gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 06:31 PM
Subject: [GJ] Saturn in the Second House?? Ketu in 10th??


> Hello Everyone, Namaste
>
> I am a beginner to Jyotish and would like to understand a placement in my
> chart. I have no one in South Africa who I can refer to as there are no
> qualified Jyotishis here and hence have to rely on all you wonderful souls
> to assist in learning.
>
> I have Saturn conjunct Mercury in my second house in Pisces. Does this
> bring about a limitation of ones earning potential. I am currently in my
> Jupiter Mahadasha, so would my earning capacity change when I enter my
> Saturn Mahadasha in a few years time, in Jan 2012??
>
> Also, what are my career potentials with Ketu in the 10th. I have been
> interested in all things esoteric since December 2002.
>
> My birth details are:
>
> Bipin Prag (Male)
> DOB: 24 April 1966
> Time: 1:30am (accurate birth time) -2 EET
> Place : Pretoria Cape Town, South Africa, 28E10, 25S45
>
> Thank you all for your wonderful contributions, even if we don't reply,
just
> remember that some of us do read them as they are great for learning and
> studying Jyotish.
>
> All the Best
>
> Bipin
> Cape Town, South Africa
>
>
> Main Classifications
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Moon Sign: Taurus
> Rising Sign: Aquarius
> Sun Sign: Aries
> Moon Star (Nakshatra): Rohini Pada (Quarter): 3
> Tithi 4th Tithi-Chaturthi of Waxing Moon
> Yoga 5th-Sobhana
> Karan 7th-Vanija
>
> Planet Ret Sign (Rasi) Degrees Nakshatras
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Ascendant Aquarius 2° 52' Dhanistha
> Sun Aries 9° 57' Ashwini
> Moon Taurus 17° 0' Rohini
> Mars Aries 11° 10' Ashwini
> Mercury Pisces 13° 16' Uttarabhadrap
> Jupiter Gemini 4° 29' Mrgashira
> Venus Aquarius 24° 26' Purvabhadrapa
> Saturn Pisces 1° 39' Purvabhadrapa
> Rahu Taurus 1° 58' Krttika
> Ketu Scorpio 1° 58' Visakha
>
>
>
> North Indian Style Rasi Chart for Bipin Prag
>
> ************************************************** *****
> ** * * **
> * * SAT * * * *
> * * MER * * * *
> * SUN * * * * *
> * * * * * *
> * MAR * PIS* * CAP* *
> * ARI** **SAG *
> * * * VEN LAG * * *
> * * * * * *
> * * RAH * * * *
> * * * * * *
> * * * AQU * * *
> * * * * * *
> * MOO TAU * SCO *
> * * * * * *
> * * * LEO * * *
> * * * * KET * *
> * JUP * * * * *
> * * * * * *
> * * * * * *
> * GEM** **LIB *
> * * CAN* * VIR* *
> * * * * * *
> * * * * * *
> * * * * * *
> * * * * * *
> ** * * **
> ************************************************** *****
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat
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Dear Bipin
Thanks for the feedback . I think Narinder has answered your question on
gemstones .
I wouldn't worry too much about Saturn Mahadasha .Firstly weak periods have
good phases and strong periods have troublesome phases or parts .
Therefore Krishna recommends to try and stay equipoised .
Also there is an exchange between the 2nd and 5th Lords so there are a few
good influences on the 2nd house .
I don't know of any courses that I could recommend if anyone else has taken
a course that they found highly profitable please advise the list .
I live in Melbourne ,Australia .
Kind regards
Nicholas



>
> Thank you for the wonderful reply. You put a lot of things in
> perspective for me. I am doing just fine at the moment. My only
> frustration is what I guess Saturn is the cause is limiting my
> income. I have sufficient to get me by, only thing is that I want to
> have at least build up sufficient capital for say 3 years so that I
> can study Jyotish Full time - that is my real wish - who know it may
> happen some day.
>
> Could you recommend what gemstone I should use. Am I correct in
> saying that I should were a Yello Sapphire or Citrine for Jupiter
> seeing that I am in my Jupiter Mahadasha or should I be wearing
> Emerald for Mercury disposition. I read that one has to be careful
> wearing Blue Sapphire for Saturn, but with it being strong in my
> chart would it be beneficial to me.
>
> Many thanks again and I do appreciate the feedback.
>
> All the Best
>
> Bipin
>
> ps: Bye the way where do you reside what part of the world are you
> from??
>
>
> --- In gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "Nicholas" <jyotish108@h...> wrote:
> > Dear Bepin
> > >
> > > I have Saturn conjunct Mercury in my second house in Pisces.
> Does this
> > > bring about a limitation of ones earning potential.
> >
> > Saturn is helpful simce it is primarily the Lord of Lagna and is on
> the
> > rising degree . Mercury is primarily the 8th Lord and is
> debilitated and so
> > is not helpful generally .There may be periods of frustration in
> terms of
> > wealth and status .
> >
> >
> >
> > I am currently in my
> > > Jupiter Mahadasha,
> >
> > Jupiter should be helpful as it closely aspects the rising degree
> in the
> > 11th .Are you doing for the most part all right at the moment ?
> >
> >
> > so would my earning capacity change when I enter my
> > > Saturn Mahadasha in a few years time, in Jan 2012??
> >
> > Saturn looks to be harder . It is in infancy and it gets a close
> aspect of
> > Ketu . The Ketu Saturn conjunction then falls in the 10th in
> Navamsa .
> > >
> > > Also, what are my career potentials with Ketu in the 10th. I
> have been
> > > interested in all things esoteric since December 2002.
> >
> > Ketu is also on the rising degree of the 10th house causing an
> affliction .
> > There may be changes of jobs or one might have to wait a long time
> to get
> > the results of his hard work . You started Ketu Bhukti in December
> 2002 and
> > Ketu is quite a spiritual and philosophical planet .People with
> Ketuin 10th
> > are more inclined to study than climbing corporate ladders .Jupiter
> on the
> > rising degree in the 5th would make one very interested in
> accumulating
> > sacred knowledge and wisdom .Interesting chart that you have there
> is a
> > dichotomy between the attainment of wealth income and status and
> the
> > persuit of spiritual lore .Best of luck resolving it !
> > Hope this helps
> > Nicholas
>
>
>
>
> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat
> To unsubscribe, send an email to: gjlist-unsubscribe (AT) egroups (DOT) com
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>
>

Hi Bipin,
Right now you are in jupiter MD and jup is in 5th house.This is
the reason for your interest in spirituality/occultism.
Right now you are running sade-sati which will be over when saturn
leaves gemini.After sade-sati ends,you will be gradually freed
from obstacles you may be facing now.
RE saturn in 2nd -- saturn is benefic for you being lagna lord.
One quality of saturn is that he never destroys the house he
resides in.
saturn enhances by presence and destroys by aspect. --- so saturn
in 2nd protects and enhances wealth.saturn dasha will give you
wealth.
Ketu in 10th and profession -- ketu makes one do strange things if
in 10th.Besides ketu is a functional malefic for you and ruins the
10th house.Profession wise your horoscope is not good.But it is
good spiritually.
vivek.

On Thu, 08 May 2003 Narinder Juneja wrote :
>
>Dear Mr. Bipin,
>
>As Mr. Nicholas has already replied to your queries, I am adding
>a little.
>
>Although Saturn is your benefic planet but its weakness and it is
>afflicted
>by malefic Ketu can cause obstructions in desired status through
>profession,
>gains, social esteem and fear/problem in health & longevity.
>
>The current period of Jupiter/Ketu till Dec.2003 seems to be
>obstructive &
>difficult. The coming subperiod of Venus will bring some benefic
>change but
>it will have some limitations as Venus is placed in the house of
>afflicted
>Saturn. The coming main period of afflicted Saturn will be more
>difficult
>than the current one of benefic well placed Jupiter.
>
>Strengthening of Saturn by wearing of Blue Sapphire /Kavach and
>performing
>of propitiations for malefic Rahu,Ketu will be helpful.
>
>With best Wishes.
>
>Narinder Juneja.
>www.MyWebAstrologer.com
>K-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2,
>Gurgaon-122002, Haryana.
>INDIA
>Ph.91-124-2564567, 5014567,
>mobile-091-9810058186
>
>----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bipin Prag" <bipin.prag@...>
>To: <gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 06:31 PM
>Subject: [GJ] Saturn in the Second House?? Ketu in 10th??
>
>
> > Hello Everyone, Namaste
> >
> > I am a beginner to Jyotish and would like to understand a
>placement in my
> > chart. I have no one in South Africa who I can refer to as
>there are no
> > qualified Jyotishis here and hence have to rely on all you
>wonderful souls
> > to assist in learning.
> >
> > I have Saturn conjunct Mercury in my second house in Pisces.
>Does this
> > bring about a limitation of ones earning potential. I am
>currently in my
> > Jupiter Mahadasha, so would my earning capacity change when I
>enter my
> > Saturn Mahadasha in a few years time, in Jan 2012??
> >
> > Also, what are my career potentials with Ketu in the 10th. I
>have been
> > interested in all things esoteric since December 2002.
> >
> > My birth details are:
> >
> > Bipin Prag (Male)
> > DOB: 24 April 1966
> > Time: 1:30am (accurate birth time) -2 EET
> > Place : Pretoria Cape Town, South Africa, 28E10, 25S45
> >
> > Thank you all for your wonderful contributions, even if we
>don't reply,
>just
> > remember that some of us do read them as they are great for
>learning and
> > studying Jyotish.
> >
> > All the Best
> >
> > Bipin
> > Cape Town, South Africa
> >
> >
> > Main Classifications
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > Moon Sign: Taurus
> > Rising Sign: Aquarius
> > Sun Sign: Aries
> > Moon Star (Nakshatra): Rohini Pada (Quarter): 3
> > Tithi 4th Tithi-Chaturthi of Waxing Moon
> > Yoga 5th-Sobhana
> > Karan 7th-Vanija
> >
> > Planet Ret Sign (Rasi) Degrees Nakshatras
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > Ascendant Aquarius 2° 52' Dhanistha
> > Sun Aries 9° 57' Ashwini
> > Moon Taurus 17° 0' Rohini
> > Mars Aries 11° 10' Ashwini
> > Mercury Pisces 13° 16' Uttarabhadrap
> > Jupiter Gemini 4° 29' Mrgashira
> > Venus Aquarius 24° 26' Purvabhadrapa
> > Saturn Pisces 1° 39' Purvabhadrapa
> > Rahu Taurus 1° 58' Krttika
> > Ketu Scorpio 1° 58' Visakha
> >
> >
> >
> > North Indian Style Rasi Chart for Bipin Prag
> >
> > ************************************************** *****
> > ** * * **
> > * * SAT * * * *
> > * * MER * * * *
> > * SUN * * * * *
> > * * * * * *
> > * MAR * PIS* * CAP* *
> > * ARI** **SAG *
> > * * * VEN LAG * * *
> > * * * * * *
> > * * RAH * * * *
> > * * * * * *
> > * * * AQU * * *
> > * * * * * *
> > * MOO TAU * SCO *
> > * * * * * *
> > * * * LEO * * *
> > * * * * KET * *
> > * JUP * * * * *
> > * * * * * *
> > * * * * * *
> > * GEM** **LIB *
> > * * CAN* * VIR* *
> > * * * * * *
> > * * * * * *
> > * * * * * *
> > * * * * * *
> > ** * * **
> > ************************************************** *****
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat
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You wrote:
One quality of saturn is that he never destroys the house he resides in.
saturn enhances by presence and destroys by aspect.
But, i've heard that Saturn placement in third house destroys the next born.What about it?
Regards,
Fayyaz

Dear Fayyaz,
The third house does govern siblings.But I have not heard of
saturn in 3rd destroying the next born.
What effect a planet gives by being present in or aspecting a
particular house depends primarily on the planets disposition
towards your lagna.
For example:- for taurus or libra lagna,saturn is yogkaraka.so a
question arises -- will saturn's aspect on a house destroy it for
these lagna's? It will not as saturn,even if a natural malefic, is
totally good for these lagna's.so he will do good both by presence
and aspect.
better by presence.
If saturn is malefic by rulership,he will destroy by aspect(most
destructive is 10th aspect) but his presence in a house will
always protect it as a rule.
Please note that even if saturn's aspect does good to a
house(libra/ taurus) he will afflict a planet posited there.thus
if you have moon there saturn will affect mind. if you have venus
there he will restrain your pleasures,etc.
vivek.

On Fri, 09 May 2003 Fktareen@... wrote :
>Dear Vivek,
>
>You wrote:
>
> > One quality of saturn is that he never destroys the house he
> > resides in.
> > saturn enhances by presence and destroys by aspect.
> >
> > But, i've heard that Saturn placement in third house destroys
>the next
> > born.What about it?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
>
>

Thanks for your reply.
What i wrote was what i heard from a noted Sri Lankan astrologer.
Moreover, this is exactly what Saturn in the Third house for my Taurus Lagna did
to me.I have three elder brothers.Next born to me was a sister who died when she
was about two years old.After that i have two sisters & two brothers.
Best regards,
Fayyaz

Dear Fayyaz,
Saturn is yogkaraka for you.Since he is in 3rd house,you will have
no problems with your siblings ---- unless of course there is
another aspect to the house which would have to be considered
too.
I am not sure about saturn in 3rd destroying the next born.I have
not heard of such a rule in astrology.Maybe some enlightened
member on this list can throw light on this.
Best wishes,
vivek.

On Sat, 10 May 2003 Fktareen@... wrote :
>Dear Vivek,
>
>Thanks for your reply.
>What i wrote was what i heard from a noted Sri Lankan
>astrologer.
>Moreover, this is exactly what Saturn in the Third house for my
>Taurus Lagna
>did to me.I have three elder brothers.Next born to me was a
>sister who died
>when she was about two years old.After that i have two sisters &
>two brothers.
>
>Best regards,
>Fayyaz

Dear Vivek,

BPHS says that Sat in 3rd destroys the younger, Sun in 3rd destroys the elder
and Mars, worst of all, destroys both when he is in 3rd !!!!!

Cheers!Tanvir



What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine.

Tanvir
Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) ...oups.yahoo.com/group/jyotish_remedies

----- Original Message -----
From: Vivek
To: gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [GJ] Saturn in the Second House?? Ketu in 10th??
Dear Fayyaz,Saturn is yogkaraka for you.Since he is in 3rd house,you will have
no problems with your siblings ---- unless of course there is another aspect to
the house which would have to be considered too.I am not sure about saturn in
3rd destroying the next born.I have not heard of such a rule in astrology.Maybe
some enlightened member on this list can throw light on this.Best wishes,vivek.

Dear Tanvir,
I have one case here (10th feb 1952 -- 2 AM -- Kalyan,India).
His parents had 11 children.He was the tenth.
The 9th child, a girl died in childhood before he was born AND the
11th child,also a girl died at the age of 3 or 4 yrs.
He has sun/merc in 3rd and mars aspects the 3rd too.
vivek.

On Sun, 11 May 2003 Tanvir wrote :
>Dear Vivek,
>
>BPHS says that Sat in 3rd destroys the younger, Sun in 3rd
>destroys the elder and Mars, worst of all, destroys both when he
>is in 3rd !!!!!
>
>Cheers!
>Tanvir
>
>
>
>What can not happen, can never happen.
>Which is mine, is forever mine.
>
>Tanvir Chowdhury
>tanvir@...
>http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir
>http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jyotish_remedies
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Vivek
> To: gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 3:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [GJ] Saturn in the Second House?? Ketu in
>10th??
>
>
> Dear Fayyaz,
> Saturn is yogkaraka for you.Since he is in 3rd house,you will
>have
> no problems with your siblings ---- unless of course there
>is
> another aspect to the house which would have to be
>considered
> too.
> I am not sure about saturn in 3rd destroying the next born.I
>have
> not heard of such a rule in astrology.Maybe some enlightened
> member on this list can throw light on this.
> Best wishes,
> vivek.

Dear List Members,

Affliction to the Mars, 3rd Lord and placement of malefic planet in the 3rd
house & 9th house near the Most effective point of ascendant, can delay &
deny the next siblings.

In all the ascendants Saturn should not be treated as a malefic planet and
only in Cancer, Virgo & Pisces the placement of Saturn or other malefic
planets in above mentioned houses or affliction to Mars can cause
obstructions in next siblings.


With best Wishes.

Narinder Juneja.
www.MyWebAstrologer.com
K-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2,
Gurgaon-122002, Haryana.
INDIA
Ph.91-124-2564567, 5014567,
mobile-091-9810058186

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vivek " <keviv90@...>
To: <gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 09:33 AM
Subject: Re: [GJ] Saturn in the Second House?? Ketu in 10th??


> Dear Fayyaz,
> The third house does govern siblings.But I have not heard of
> saturn in 3rd destroying the next born.
> What effect a planet gives by being present in or aspecting a
> particular house depends primarily on the planets disposition
> towards your lagna.
> For example:- for taurus or libra lagna,saturn is yogkaraka.so a
> question arises -- will saturn's aspect on a house destroy it for
> these lagna's? It will not as saturn,even if a natural malefic, is
> totally good for these lagna's.so he will do good both by presence
> and aspect.
> better by presence.
> If saturn is malefic by rulership,he will destroy by aspect(most
> destructive is 10th aspect) but his presence in a house will
> always protect it as a rule.
> Please note that even if saturn's aspect does good to a
> house(libra/ taurus) he will afflict a planet posited there.thus
> if you have moon there saturn will affect mind. if you have venus
> there he will restrain your pleasures,etc.
> vivek.
>
> On Fri, 09 May 2003 Fktareen@... wrote :
> >Dear Vivek,
> >
> >You wrote:
> >
> > > One quality of saturn is that he never destroys the house he
> > > resides in.
> > > saturn enhances by presence and destroys by aspect.
> > >
> > > But, i've heard that Saturn placement in third house destroys
> >the next
> > > born.What about it?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Dear Vivek,
Thanks for presenting the info before us :-)Regards,Tanvir



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Tanvir
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----- Original Message -----
From: Vivek
To: gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [GJ] Saturn in the Second House?? Ketu in 10th??
Dear Tanvir,I have one case here (10th feb 1952 -- 2 AM -- Kalyan,India).His
parents had 11 children.He was the tenth.The 9th child, a girl died in
childhood before he was born AND the 11th child,also a girl died at the age of
3 or 4 yrs.He has sun/merc in 3rd and mars aspects the 3rd too.vivek.