hello members,
i have read in a lot of articles that the 12th house
is a dusthana - a malefic house, which deals with
solitude, confinement etc. so what would be the effect
of having many planets in the 12th house. I have Sun,
Mercury and Saturn in the 12th house (Leo ascendant).
What are the results of such a combination.
Regards,
Mahesh

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Dear Zamini,

Can you kindly send me your birth data? I would like to study your horoscope.

Thanks a lot,
Krishna.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house
I find the effects of many planets in the 12th house to be interesting as well.
I have the Sun, Mecury, Venus,Ketu , and Uranus placed in the 12th house in my
Rashi......Zamani
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Dear Zamini,

Can you kindly send me your birth data? I would like to study your horoscope.

Thanks a lot,
Krishna.
----- Original Message -----
From: Zamani Feelings
To: gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house
I find the effects of many planets in the 12th house to be interesting as well.
I have the Sun, Mecury, Venus,Ketu , and Uranus placed in the 12th house in my
Rashi......Zamani
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Dear Mahesh
Generally it is not so good materially speaking but it can activate the
search for moksha .
Nicholas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karo Maja" <maja_karo@...>
To: <gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 6:03 AM
Subject: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house


> hello members,
> i have read in a lot of articles that the 12th house
> is a dusthana - a malefic house, which deals with
> solitude, confinement etc. so what would be the effect
> of having many planets in the 12th house. I have Sun,
> Mercury and Saturn in the 12th house (Leo ascendant).
> What are the results of such a combination.
> Regards,
> Mahesh
>
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Dear Mahesh
Generally it is not so good materially speaking but it can activate the
search for moksha .
Nicholas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karo Maja" <maja_karo@...>
To: <gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 6:03 AM
Subject: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house


> hello members,
> i have read in a lot of articles that the 12th house
> is a dusthana - a malefic house, which deals with
> solitude, confinement etc. so what would be the effect
> of having many planets in the 12th house. I have Sun,
> Mercury and Saturn in the 12th house (Leo ascendant).
> What are the results of such a combination.
> Regards,
> Mahesh
>
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Namaste Karo,

6,8,12th are dusthanas.

12th is a house of loss,limitation,expenditures
and also of liberation and enlightenment.
It is also a house of secrets and passion.
Each house has positive and negative side.

Several planets in a house usually indicates
shows the native's predispotion or tendancies
toward the meaning of that house and
sometimes treated like another lagna.

The Sun there can mean a loss of self confidence or
a poor reputation and on positive notes self denial,
solitude and orientation toward spiritual enlightenment.
Mercury, indicator of wealth ruling 2nd and 11th,
dhana yoga karaka in the house of loss is not good
materially but good for spirituality.
Saturn there causes worry or weakness of the nerves
or on positive side deep solitude and contemplation.

Look to where the Moon is, the lord of that house.
Many spiritualy disposed people have strong 12th.
To help with finance you might want to strengthen
Mercury.

Om Shanti
Hari Das

----------
>From: Karo Maja <maja_karo@...>
>To: gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
>Subject: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house
>Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2002, 2:03 PM
>

> hello members,
> i have read in a lot of articles that the 12th house
> is a dusthana - a malefic house, which deals with
> solitude, confinement etc. so what would be the effect
> of having many planets in the 12th house. I have Sun,
> Mercury and Saturn in the 12th house (Leo ascendant).
> What are the results of such a combination.
> Regards,
> Mahesh
>
> __________________________________________________
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Namaste Karo,

6,8,12th are dusthanas.

12th is a house of loss,limitation,expenditures
and also of liberation and enlightenment.
It is also a house of secrets and passion.
Each house has positive and negative side.

Several planets in a house usually indicates
shows the native's predispotion or tendancies
toward the meaning of that house and
sometimes treated like another lagna.

The Sun there can mean a loss of self confidence or
a poor reputation and on positive notes self denial,
solitude and orientation toward spiritual enlightenment.
Mercury, indicator of wealth ruling 2nd and 11th,
dhana yoga karaka in the house of loss is not good
materially but good for spirituality.
Saturn there causes worry or weakness of the nerves
or on positive side deep solitude and contemplation.

Look to where the Moon is, the lord of that house.
Many spiritualy disposed people have strong 12th.
To help with finance you might want to strengthen
Mercury.

Om Shanti
Hari Das

----------
>From: Karo Maja <maja_karo@...>
>To: gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
>Subject: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house
>Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2002, 2:03 PM
>

> hello members,
> i have read in a lot of articles that the 12th house
> is a dusthana - a malefic house, which deals with
> solitude, confinement etc. so what would be the effect
> of having many planets in the 12th house. I have Sun,
> Mercury and Saturn in the 12th house (Leo ascendant).
> What are the results of such a combination.
> Regards,
> Mahesh
>
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To Karo Maja:

Ascendant ruler in the 12th can make you deeply compassionate, perhaps even
give an harmed self-image when approaching the material outer world. Sun
and Saturn together can result in a spiritual seeker dedicated to gaining
the experience of enlightenment, you want practical experience here, not
unapplied book learning.. Mercury as ruler of 11th in the 12th may give
opportunities for spiritual advancement. Specifics, such as whether (or
when) you might be troubled by thieves or if you might experience
incarceration (or confine yourself to an ashram) would, of course, require
looking carefully at your entire chart. I should think that you would be
overly concerned with escaping time.


----- Original Message -----
From: Nicholas <jyotish108@...>
To: <gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house


> Dear Mahesh
> Generally it is not so good materially speaking but it can activate the
> search for moksha .
> Nicholas
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karo Maja" <maja_karo@...>
> To: <gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 6:03 AM
> Subject: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house
>
>
> > hello members,
> > i have read in a lot of articles that the 12th house
> > is a dusthana - a malefic house, which deals with
> > solitude, confinement etc. so what would be the effect
> > of having many planets in the 12th house. I have Sun,
> > Mercury and Saturn in the 12th house (Leo ascendant).
> > What are the results of such a combination.
> > Regards,
> > Mahesh
> >
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To Karo Maja:

Ascendant ruler in the 12th can make you deeply compassionate, perhaps even
give an harmed self-image when approaching the material outer world. Sun
and Saturn together can result in a spiritual seeker dedicated to gaining
the experience of enlightenment, you want practical experience here, not
unapplied book learning.. Mercury as ruler of 11th in the 12th may give
opportunities for spiritual advancement. Specifics, such as whether (or
when) you might be troubled by thieves or if you might experience
incarceration (or confine yourself to an ashram) would, of course, require
looking carefully at your entire chart. I should think that you would be
overly concerned with escaping time.


----- Original Message -----
From: Nicholas <jyotish108@...>
To: <gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house


> Dear Mahesh
> Generally it is not so good materially speaking but it can activate the
> search for moksha .
> Nicholas
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karo Maja" <maja_karo@...>
> To: <gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 6:03 AM
> Subject: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house
>
>
> > hello members,
> > i have read in a lot of articles that the 12th house
> > is a dusthana - a malefic house, which deals with
> > solitude, confinement etc. so what would be the effect
> > of having many planets in the 12th house. I have Sun,
> > Mercury and Saturn in the 12th house (Leo ascendant).
> > What are the results of such a combination.
> > Regards,
> > Mahesh
> >
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Hi Nicholas,
Thanks for your reply
I have read that the 12th house is also the house of foreign
residence. Most books refer to this house as the house of solitude,
incarceration etc. Since Jyotish is an ancient science and in those
days anybody who went away from home (to distant places) was usually
exiled (solitude) or imprisoned (incarceration). Is this the reason
for this interpretation. -- Just a thought.
Thanks once again.


--- In gjlist@y..., "Robert Riley" <rriley@o...> wrote:
> To Karo Maja:
>
> Ascendant ruler in the 12th can make you deeply compassionate,
perhaps even
> give an harmed self-image when approaching the material outer world.
Sun
> and Saturn together can result in a spiritual seeker dedicated to
gaining
> the experience of enlightenment, you want practical experience here, not
> unapplied book learning.. Mercury as ruler of 11th in the 12th may give
> opportunities for spiritual advancement. Specifics, such as whether (or
> when) you might be troubled by thieves or if you might experience
> incarceration (or confine yourself to an ashram) would, of course,
require
> looking carefully at your entire chart. I should think that you
would be
> overly concerned with escaping time.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nicholas <jyotish108@h...>
> To: <gjlist@y...>
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 4:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house
>
>
> > Dear Mahesh
> > Generally it is not so good materially speaking but it can
activate the
> > search for moksha .
> > Nicholas
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Karo Maja" <maja_karo@y...>
> > To: <gjlist@y...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 6:03 AM
> > Subject: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house
> >
> >
> > > hello members,
> > > i have read in a lot of articles that the 12th house
> > > is a dusthana - a malefic house, which deals with
> > > solitude, confinement etc. so what would be the effect
> > > of having many planets in the 12th house. I have Sun,
> > > Mercury and Saturn in the 12th house (Leo ascendant).
> > > What are the results of such a combination.
> > > Regards,
> > > Mahesh
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
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Hi Nicholas,
Thanks for your reply
I have read that the 12th house is also the house of foreign
residence. Most books refer to this house as the house of solitude,
incarceration etc. Since Jyotish is an ancient science and in those
days anybody who went away from home (to distant places) was usually
exiled (solitude) or imprisoned (incarceration). Is this the reason
for this interpretation. -- Just a thought.
Thanks once again.


--- In gjlist@y..., "Robert Riley" <rriley@o...> wrote:
> To Karo Maja:
>
> Ascendant ruler in the 12th can make you deeply compassionate,
perhaps even
> give an harmed self-image when approaching the material outer world.
Sun
> and Saturn together can result in a spiritual seeker dedicated to
gaining
> the experience of enlightenment, you want practical experience here, not
> unapplied book learning.. Mercury as ruler of 11th in the 12th may give
> opportunities for spiritual advancement. Specifics, such as whether (or
> when) you might be troubled by thieves or if you might experience
> incarceration (or confine yourself to an ashram) would, of course,
require
> looking carefully at your entire chart. I should think that you
would be
> overly concerned with escaping time.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nicholas <jyotish108@h...>
> To: <gjlist@y...>
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 4:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house
>
>
> > Dear Mahesh
> > Generally it is not so good materially speaking but it can
activate the
> > search for moksha .
> > Nicholas
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Karo Maja" <maja_karo@y...>
> > To: <gjlist@y...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 6:03 AM
> > Subject: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house
> >
> >
> > > hello members,
> > > i have read in a lot of articles that the 12th house
> > > is a dusthana - a malefic house, which deals with
> > > solitude, confinement etc. so what would be the effect
> > > of having many planets in the 12th house. I have Sun,
> > > Mercury and Saturn in the 12th house (Leo ascendant).
> > > What are the results of such a combination.
> > > Regards,
> > > Mahesh
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
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> > >
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Hi Hari,
I have moon in the 11th house, the house of gains. There is an
exchange between the lords of the 11th and 12th house. What does that
mean?
Thank you.
--- In gjlist@y..., "Gee Sunn" <siva1008@e...> wrote:
> Namaste Karo,
>
> 6,8,12th are dusthanas.
>
> 12th is a house of loss,limitation,expenditures
> and also of liberation and enlightenment.
> It is also a house of secrets and passion.
> Each house has positive and negative side.
>
> Several planets in a house usually indicates
> shows the native's predispotion or tendancies
> toward the meaning of that house and
> sometimes treated like another lagna.
>
> The Sun there can mean a loss of self confidence or
> a poor reputation and on positive notes self denial,
> solitude and orientation toward spiritual enlightenment.
> Mercury, indicator of wealth ruling 2nd and 11th,
> dhana yoga karaka in the house of loss is not good
> materially but good for spirituality.
> Saturn there causes worry or weakness of the nerves
> or on positive side deep solitude and contemplation.
>
> Look to where the Moon is, the lord of that house.
> Many spiritualy disposed people have strong 12th.
> To help with finance you might want to strengthen
> Mercury.
>
> Om Shanti
> Hari Das
>
> ----------
> >From: Karo Maja <maja_karo@y...>
> >To: gjlist@y...
> >Subject: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house
> >Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2002, 2:03 PM
> >
>
> > hello members,
> > i have read in a lot of articles that the 12th house
> > is a dusthana - a malefic house, which deals with
> > solitude, confinement etc. so what would be the effect
> > of having many planets in the 12th house. I have Sun,
> > Mercury and Saturn in the 12th house (Leo ascendant).
> > What are the results of such a combination.
> > Regards,
> > Mahesh
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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Hi Hari,
I have moon in the 11th house, the house of gains. There is an
exchange between the lords of the 11th and 12th house. What does that
mean?
Thank you.
--- In gjlist@y..., "Gee Sunn" <siva1008@e...> wrote:
> Namaste Karo,
>
> 6,8,12th are dusthanas.
>
> 12th is a house of loss,limitation,expenditures
> and also of liberation and enlightenment.
> It is also a house of secrets and passion.
> Each house has positive and negative side.
>
> Several planets in a house usually indicates
> shows the native's predispotion or tendancies
> toward the meaning of that house and
> sometimes treated like another lagna.
>
> The Sun there can mean a loss of self confidence or
> a poor reputation and on positive notes self denial,
> solitude and orientation toward spiritual enlightenment.
> Mercury, indicator of wealth ruling 2nd and 11th,
> dhana yoga karaka in the house of loss is not good
> materially but good for spirituality.
> Saturn there causes worry or weakness of the nerves
> or on positive side deep solitude and contemplation.
>
> Look to where the Moon is, the lord of that house.
> Many spiritualy disposed people have strong 12th.
> To help with finance you might want to strengthen
> Mercury.
>
> Om Shanti
> Hari Das
>
> ----------
> >From: Karo Maja <maja_karo@y...>
> >To: gjlist@y...
> >Subject: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house
> >Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2002, 2:03 PM
> >
>
> > hello members,
> > i have read in a lot of articles that the 12th house
> > is a dusthana - a malefic house, which deals with
> > solitude, confinement etc. so what would be the effect
> > of having many planets in the 12th house. I have Sun,
> > Mercury and Saturn in the 12th house (Leo ascendant).
> > What are the results of such a combination.
> > Regards,
> > Mahesh
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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Namaste Mahesh,

Is the Moon waxing or waning?
Is the Moon conjunct or aspected by any planets?
What does Navamsha look like and the Moon's
position in it?
Actually the whole situation needs to be weighed.

But the exchnge of signs Sambandha is a pwerful yoga
called Parivartan yoga, and in wetern astrology, it
is called "mutual reception".
It means that both lords are agreeing to cooperate,
which is a good thing.

This is higly auspicious so far because both
houses are protected.
You'll attain very high mentally and spritually.
But it is more of spiritual placement and you'll still
experince some difficulties in material plane
eventhough the loss is minimized.

Hari Om and good luck with your studies,
Hari Das





----------
>From: "maja_karo" <maja_karo@...>
>To: gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
>Subject: Re: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house
>Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2002, 7:04 PM
>

> Hi Hari,
> I have moon in the 11th house, the house of gains. There is an
> exchange between the lords of the 11th and 12th house. What does that
> mean?
> Thank you.
> --- In gjlist@y..., "Gee Sunn" <siva1008@e...> wrote:
>> Namaste Karo,
>>
>> 6,8,12th are dusthanas.
>>
>> 12th is a house of loss,limitation,expenditures
>> and also of liberation and enlightenment.
>> It is also a house of secrets and passion.
>> Each house has positive and negative side.
>>
>> Several planets in a house usually indicates
>> shows the native's predispotion or tendancies
>> toward the meaning of that house and
>> sometimes treated like another lagna.
>>
>> The Sun there can mean a loss of self confidence or
>> a poor reputation and on positive notes self denial,
>> solitude and orientation toward spiritual enlightenment.
>> Mercury, indicator of wealth ruling 2nd and 11th,
>> dhana yoga karaka in the house of loss is not good
>> materially but good for spirituality.
>> Saturn there causes worry or weakness of the nerves
>> or on positive side deep solitude and contemplation.
>>
>> Look to where the Moon is, the lord of that house.
>> Many spiritualy disposed people have strong 12th.
>> To help with finance you might want to strengthen
>> Mercury.
>>
>> Om Shanti
>> Hari Das
>>
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>> >From: Karo Maja <maja_karo@y...>
>> >To: gjlist@y...
>> >Subject: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house
>> >Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2002, 2:03 PM
>> >
>>
>> > hello members,
>> > i have read in a lot of articles that the 12th house
>> > is a dusthana - a malefic house, which deals with
>> > solitude, confinement etc. so what would be the effect
>> > of having many planets in the 12th house. I have Sun,
>> > Mercury and Saturn in the 12th house (Leo ascendant).
>> > What are the results of such a combination.
>> > Regards,
>> > Mahesh
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Namaste Mahesh,

Is the Moon waxing or waning?
Is the Moon conjunct or aspected by any planets?
What does Navamsha look like and the Moon's
position in it?
Actually the whole situation needs to be weighed.

But the exchnge of signs Sambandha is a pwerful yoga
called Parivartan yoga, and in wetern astrology, it
is called "mutual reception".
It means that both lords are agreeing to cooperate,
which is a good thing.

This is higly auspicious so far because both
houses are protected.
You'll attain very high mentally and spritually.
But it is more of spiritual placement and you'll still
experince some difficulties in material plane
eventhough the loss is minimized.

Hari Om and good luck with your studies,
Hari Das





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>From: "maja_karo" <maja_karo@...>
>To: gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
>Subject: Re: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house
>Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2002, 7:04 PM
>

> Hi Hari,
> I have moon in the 11th house, the house of gains. There is an
> exchange between the lords of the 11th and 12th house. What does that
> mean?
> Thank you.
> --- In gjlist@y..., "Gee Sunn" <siva1008@e...> wrote:
>> Namaste Karo,
>>
>> 6,8,12th are dusthanas.
>>
>> 12th is a house of loss,limitation,expenditures
>> and also of liberation and enlightenment.
>> It is also a house of secrets and passion.
>> Each house has positive and negative side.
>>
>> Several planets in a house usually indicates
>> shows the native's predispotion or tendancies
>> toward the meaning of that house and
>> sometimes treated like another lagna.
>>
>> The Sun there can mean a loss of self confidence or
>> a poor reputation and on positive notes self denial,
>> solitude and orientation toward spiritual enlightenment.
>> Mercury, indicator of wealth ruling 2nd and 11th,
>> dhana yoga karaka in the house of loss is not good
>> materially but good for spirituality.
>> Saturn there causes worry or weakness of the nerves
>> or on positive side deep solitude and contemplation.
>>
>> Look to where the Moon is, the lord of that house.
>> Many spiritualy disposed people have strong 12th.
>> To help with finance you might want to strengthen
>> Mercury.
>>
>> Om Shanti
>> Hari Das
>>
>> ----------
>> >From: Karo Maja <maja_karo@y...>
>> >To: gjlist@y...
>> >Subject: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house
>> >Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2002, 2:03 PM
>> >
>>
>> > hello members,
>> > i have read in a lot of articles that the 12th house
>> > is a dusthana - a malefic house, which deals with
>> > solitude, confinement etc. so what would be the effect
>> > of having many planets in the 12th house. I have Sun,
>> > Mercury and Saturn in the 12th house (Leo ascendant).
>> > What are the results of such a combination.
>> > Regards,
>> > Mahesh
>> >
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Dear Gee,
Even though I agree with what you said, there is a silent message in
Parivarthana.
It is nowhere clearly stated that is is always good.
For instance for kark lagna, parivarthana yoga of guru/neecha/ and shani in
9th, gave unfavourable results, which also means that grahas exchange the
roles. So instead of guru (lord of 9th) in 7th giving happiness in marriage and
supporting travelling abroad, it gave problems and created unhappiness from
abroad around 35/36 years ruled by shani. So grahas, may exchange roles in
Parivarhana.
Best wishes,
Zoran
--
Zoran Radosavljevic
Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre
mails: ahimsa@...
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Dear Gee,
Even though I agree with what you said, there is a silent message in
Parivarthana.
It is nowhere clearly stated that is is always good.
For instance for kark lagna, parivarthana yoga of guru/neecha/ and shani in
9th, gave unfavourable results, which also means that grahas exchange the
roles. So instead of guru (lord of 9th) in 7th giving happiness in marriage and
supporting travelling abroad, it gave problems and created unhappiness from
abroad around 35/36 years ruled by shani. So grahas, may exchange roles in
Parivarhana.
Best wishes,
Zoran
--
Zoran Radosavljevic
Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre
mails: ahimsa@...
ahimsa@...
web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu

Namaste Zoran,
You are right.
It does not always give favorable results.
That's why i put words "so far" and stated
he'll still experience difficulties because
it is a yoga of spiritual nature in this case,
the lord of gain in loss house and the lord of loss in
the house of gain. He will suffer materially.
But planets in 11th are strong and he'll achieve
great height in what Moon signifies, and gain
by way loss facing difficulties in worldly matter.
I believe that astrologers should accentuate the
positive, have optimistic tone and watch his/her
tongue. It does not serve to talk about the negative
in length even though they need to be pointed out.
It is a delicate matter of articulation and that's
why it's science and art. Ultimately it has to serve
people in beneficial manner.
Thanks for your comment.

Om Shanti
Hari Das

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>From: Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa@...>
>To: gjlist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com
>Subject: Re: [GJ] Effect of many planets in the 12th house
>Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2002, 9:56 PM
>

> Dear Gee,
> Even though I agree with what you said, there is a silent message in
> Parivarthana.
> It is nowhere clearly stated that is is always good.
> For instance for kark lagna, parivarthana yoga of guru/neecha/ and shani in
> 9th, gave unfavourable results, which also means that grahas exchange the
> roles. So instead of guru (lord of 9th) in 7th giving happiness in marriage
and
> supporting travelling abroad, it gave problems and created unhappiness from
> abroad around 35/36 years ruled by shani. So grahas, may exchange roles in
> Parivarhana.
> Best wishes,
> Zoran
> --
> Zoran Radosavljevic
> Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre
> mails: ahimsa@...
> ahimsa@...
> web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu
>
>
>
>
>
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