All,

This seems to be the one topic that just won;t go
aaway; and, I guess, since I am both, a Western and a
Vedic Astrologer, I feel compelled to speak to
this..........

Ok, this is the deal: When Western Astrologers knock
Vedic Astrologers, and say that they're all
fate-oriented, and that they're books are all old, and
that they're aren;t about finding meaning in life, the
Western Astrologers are WRONG...

....and, when Vedic Astrologers say that Western
Astrolgers cannot possibly do any good work, because
they use a "wrong" zodiac, and that Western System has
no validity because there isn't the same amount of
emphasis on prediction, and that understanding the
Human Condition with the help of Humanistic Psychology
thru the lense of Western Astrology is baseless and a
waste of time, guess what - they're WRONG...

....at the end of the day, all of this, Western, or
Vedic, or Chinese, or whatever, this is all symbolic,
and they all spring from that same Primordial Source,
from where everything Elemental can be found. This is
where all the truths of the Universe are to be found:
The Holy Qur'an, The Bhagavad-Gita, The Bible, The
Eightfold Ways of Buddhism, and so on. At the end of
it all, all of these great religions flow in the same
direction; so it is with Western and Vedic Astrology.

I keep saying, that, in this time of our Collective
History, we simply cannot afford to continue to be
ignorant in the name of some imagined superiorty, or
in the name of tradition; I have come accross many
Indians, for example, that have a great interest in
Western Astrology, especially of the brand that Noel
Tyl and Liz Greene teach; this is not to say that they
have abandoned the Vedic System, but they recognize
that there may be other ways to look at a situation,
and so, they are open. The same can certainly be said
for Western Astrologers, wanting to learn more about
the Vedic System; this is especiailly so here in the
States, where Vedic Astrology has experienced an
explosion. As cultures all over the world get more and
more exposure to each other, so too, must their
Astrologies.

I consider myself to very, very fortunate to have
received what I call a Panoramic Education in
Astrology; I have studied Parasara, and I have studied
Ptolemy; I have studied William Lilly, and I have
studied Mantreshwara; I have studied Bepin Behari and
I have studied Dane Rudhyar; I have studied K.N. Rao
and B.V. Raman, and I have studied Jeff Green and
Steven Arroyo. I studied Solar Arcs as taught by Noel
Tyl, and I have studied Vimshoattari Dasas as taught
by K.N. Rao; I have studied Western Transits, and I
have studied Ashtakavarga, too. All of it has given me
a much richer view of Humankind's fascination with the
stars, and their effects on us here on Earth.

I have demonstrated many times, in this forum, and in
others, how both of these Great Systems, Western
Astrology and Vedic Astrology, often points to the
same conclusions; in fact, just the other day, I had a
client that had very strong sexual issues that simply
had to be discussed - any Astrologer, Western or
Vedic, would be seriously remiss, not to discuss this.
In both her Western and Vedic horoscopes, these issues
were dominant - but, don't take my word for it - see
for yourself (Jul 15, 1975, 10PM, Philadelphia, PA,
USA). This client was sexually abused by a babysitter
when she was younger, and, since then, has lead a
double-life as both a women's sex-educator, and
engaging in sexual escapades that would make Anais Nin
blush. Again, I have to point out that BOTH charts,
Western and Vedic, pointed to these concerns, AND,
both charts accurately timed the unfoldment of these
events.

I seen case, after case, after case, of this
happening, that is, how both the Western chart and the
Vedic chart will both say that same things - but then
again, the truth is the truth is the truth, no matter
what language it is said in.

It is my view, after having spent at least the last 2
years of intense comparitive study in this area, that
the overwhelming majority of those who try to
denigrate one system while at the same time hoisting
their system of choice up in the air, are incredibly
ignorant - they obviously have't studied the work of
Reinhold Ebertin and the Comsmobiologists in Germany;
they have not studied the rich history of Astrology in
India, and how, Astrological thought and practice
there changes from town to town; they haven't availed
themselves of the very, very significant work of Carl
Jung, and how Dane Rudhyar used this work, and laid
down the foundation for an entire generation of
Astrologers, that breathed new life into an old and
outdate symbology; they haven't exposed themselves to
the ground-breaking research and work of the brilliant
K.N. Rao, or Sanjay Rath, updating ancient texts of
Astrology...

....they have just missed so much...

But, I am hopeful - as time marches on, and as our
world continues to get smaller and smaller, these
antiquated views will fall by the wayside, as all
other out-moded and out-dated ideas have in the past.

It is as James Braha says in his veryt first book,
Ancient Hindu Astrology for the Modern Western
Astrologer, that one day soon, the round chart of
Western Astrology will take its place beside the
square-shaped on of Vedic Astrology, and vice-versa,
for all Astrologers, world-wide, will recognize who
truly powerful both systems are, in thier own ways.

I eagerly await that day...

But, in the meantime, please let me say, to those that
are curious: do yourself a favor - investigate all of
this for yourself, test out the charts in your
possession, as I have, and THEN, make your decision;
this is the 21st Century, afterall - we shouldn't make
conclusions on the basis of feelings and bias, but
instead on the basis of investigation, study and
research, all within the Spirit of Learning.

That's my Two Cents.

Your Serve...

Peace,
Mu'Min Bey
Western and Vedic Astrologer
1-888-514-5342


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