Hello Marcia and other group members,

Vipreet Raj Yoga occurs when:

a) The 6th lord is in the 8th or the 12th house - gives happiness, helath and
fame
b) The 8th lord is in the 6th or the 12th house - gives learning and prosperity
c) The 12th lord is in the 6th or the 8th house - makes native virtuous and
contented

Vipin Doda
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----- Original Message -----
From: marcia
To: gjlist (AT) egroups (DOT) com
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: [gjlist] Exaltation and Debilitation


hello all:
sorry to be so naive but i was wondering if someone could explain Vipreet
Raj yoga please?
thank you

Marcia


At 02:49 PM 6/5/00, you wrote:
>In a message dated 06/05/2000 2:24:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>costa@... writes:
>
><< .I stick to the SA definitions of exaltation and MT which
> seem logical.and simple and use the full sign for exaltation and
> debilitation and do not ascribe any particular degree as giving more
> exaltation . >>
>
>
> . thanks Nicholas! This is the eventual conclusion I came to, since the
>texts I've read always say both things; for example, mars DEB at 28 degrees,
>however, in readings for the whole sign the planet is still debilitated..
>
>I'll happily read my own chart this way -- mars in cancer in the eighth, but
>in Capricorn in Navamsa ( and still in the eighth at six degrees ) gives its
>worst effects in the earlier part of life, and improves somewhat as time goes
>on, perhaps not protecting the poor beleaguered accident prone native totally
>but at least giving her a fighting chance. There is also Vipreet Raj yoga
>with the lord of twelfth ( scorpio ) in the eighth. Mars is also the
>strongest planet in abovesaid poor beleaguered accident prone native's Shad
>Bala.
>
>Hope! I'm about eighty five percent sure of my reading: What do you think?
>
>Thanks again.
>
>Love,
>
>Vox
>
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Vipin,

In my case (scorpio Lagna), 1st and 6th Lord Mars is in 8th. 7th and 12th Lord
Venus is
in 8th
and 2nd and 5th Lord, Jupe, is also in the 8th. Since 6th lord is in 8th and
12th lord is
in 8th,
does it constitute Vipareet Raj Yoga ? [ The GJ Software is saying that it's
Vipreet Raj
Yoga, but
I heard from someone that the dusthana planets should not be associated with
anybody else
for
a Vipareet. ] What's right ?

Tarun

Vipin Doda wrote:

> Hello Marcia and other group members,
>
> Vipreet Raj Yoga occurs when:
>
> a) The 6th lord is in the 8th or the 12th house - gives happiness, helath and
fame
> b) The 8th lord is in the 6th or the 12th house - gives learning and
prosperity
> c) The 12th lord is in the 6th or the 8th house - makes native virtuous and
contented
>
> Vipin Doda
> Free! Astrological Consultancy at:
> http://www.sonipat.com/supraastrology
> Ph: 0091-1264-50841
> ICQ#: 65802234
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: marcia
> To: gjlist (AT) egroups (DOT) com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 6:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [gjlist] Exaltation and Debilitation
>
> hello all:
> sorry to be so naive but i was wondering if someone could explain Vipreet
> Raj yoga please?
> thank you
>
> Marcia
>
> At 02:49 PM 6/5/00, you wrote:
> >In a message dated 06/05/2000 2:24:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> >costa@... writes:
> >
> ><< .I stick to the SA definitions of exaltation and MT which
> > seem logical.and simple and use the full sign for exaltation and
> > debilitation and do not ascribe any particular degree as giving more
> > exaltation . >>
> >
> >
> > . thanks Nicholas! This is the eventual conclusion I came to, since the
> >texts I've read always say both things; for example, mars DEB at 28
degrees,
> >however, in readings for the whole sign the planet is still debilitated.

> I heard from someone that the dusthana planets should not be associated
> with anybody else
> for
> a Vipareet. ] What's right ?

The formal definition is given in Uttara Kalamrita 4.22:

"If any one of the following four Yogas takes place-(1) Lord of the 8th in
the 12th or the 6th; (2) Lord of the 6th being placed in the 8th or the
12th; (3) Lord of the 12th being in the 6th or the 8th; (4) the said three
lords being connected in any way, by mutual exchange, mutual aspect or
conjunction and at the same time are free from such relation with other
planets-the person born will become a great king lording over other kings
and blessed with fame and wealth."

There is, however, a rider on this rule and that is that there can be no
other planets involved who are lords of good houses. Suppose for Pisces
Ascendant you have Sun, Jupiter and Venus in the 12th. Then the Sun as 6th
lord, and Venus as 8th conjoined in the 12th form Viparita Raja Yoga, but
because Jupiter is there and he is the lord of the Ascendant and the 10th,
then this is not Viparita Raja Yoga but rather a very destructive yoga. In
this case Jupiter is assailed by two bad planets while in a weak position.

So as long as there are no good lords in the combination then Viparita Raja
Yoga can be said to exist.

Also, the result will vary considerably according to the following
criterion: What sign is rising, which sign rules the 8th house, who is the
ruling planet of the 8th house, what is the relationship between the planet
who rules the 8th house and the planet who tenants it, who is aspecting or
conjoining the 8th house and its lord, what is the situation of the 8th
house; is the planet situated in the 8th weak or strong or somewhere in
between by positional strength (stana-bala), temporal strength (kala-bala),
etc.; are any special yogas (planetary combinations) formed, what houses
does the planet who is tenanting the 8th own, etc. Only after carefully
scrutinizing the situation should a person make a decision.

Dbd

Namaste All!,

I was wondering about this Yoga, and let me take
the case of a Virgo Ascendant, which has Saturn
in Leo (without any other planets).
Saturn is the lord of 6, so this must be Vipreet
Raj Yoga, but at the same time saturn is also the
lord of 5 (children).
What should one conclude in such a case??

Thanx in advance
-Saravanan Markandeyan


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Dear List Members,
with respect to VIpareet Raj Yogas, I have found in my expereience that
if another palnet is involved in a vipareet raj yoga, that planet suffers
due to it's house indications as well as natural karakas. There still seems
to be a yoga effect, but also the destruction of the other planet.

Take Care,
Ernst
www.vedic-astrology.net
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From: Dadhibhaksa (das) HKS (Cakovec - HR) <dadhibhaksa.hks@...>
To: <gjlist (AT) egroups (DOT) com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [gjlist] Re: Vipreet Raj Yoga


> > I heard from someone that the dusthana planets should not be associated
> > with anybody else
> > for
> > a Vipareet. ] What's right ?
>
> The formal definition is given in Uttara Kalamrita 4.22:
>
> "If any one of the following four Yogas takes place-(1) Lord of the 8th in
> the 12th or the 6th; (2) Lord of the 6th being placed in the 8th or the
> 12th; (3) Lord of the 12th being in the 6th or the 8th; (4) the said three
> lords being connected in any way, by mutual exchange, mutual aspect or
> conjunction and at the same time are free from such relation with other
> planets-the person born will become a great king lording over other kings
> and blessed with fame and wealth."
>
> There is, however, a rider on this rule and that is that there can be no
> other planets involved who are lords of good houses. Suppose for Pisces
> Ascendant you have Sun, Jupiter and Venus in the 12th. Then the Sun as 6th
> lord, and Venus as 8th conjoined in the 12th form Viparita Raja Yoga, but
> because Jupiter is there and he is the lord of the Ascendant and the 10th,
> then this is not Viparita Raja Yoga but rather a very destructive yoga. In
> this case Jupiter is assailed by two bad planets while in a weak position.
>
> So as long as there are no good lords in the combination then Viparita
Raja
> Yoga can be said to exist.
>
> Also, the result will vary considerably according to the following
> criterion: What sign is rising, which sign rules the 8th house, who is the
> ruling planet of the 8th house, what is the relationship between the
planet
> who rules the 8th house and the planet who tenants it, who is aspecting or
> conjoining the 8th house and its lord, what is the situation of the 8th
> house; is the planet situated in the 8th weak or strong or somewhere in
> between by positional strength (stana-bala), temporal strength
(kala-bala),
> etc.; are any special yogas (planetary combinations) formed, what houses
> does the planet who is tenanting the 8th own, etc. Only after carefully
> scrutinizing the situation should a person make a decision.
>
> Dbd
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Thank you vipin.



At 08:23 PM 6/5/00, Vipin Doda wrote:
>Hello Marcia and other group members,
>
>Vipreet Raj Yoga occurs when:
>
>a) The 6th lord is in the 8th or the 12th house - gives happiness, helath
>and fame
>b) The 8th lord is in the 6th or the 12th house - gives learning and
>prosperity
>c) The 12th lord is in the 6th or the 8th house - makes native virtuous
>and contented
>
>Vipin Doda
>Free! Astrological Consultancy at:
>http://www.sonipat.com/supraastrology
>Ph: 0091-1264-50841
>ICQ#: 65802234






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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> I was wondering about this Yoga, and let me take
> the case of a Virgo Ascendant, which has Saturn
> in Leo (without any other planets).
> Saturn is the lord of 6, so this must be Vipreet
> Raj Yoga, but at the same time saturn is also the
> lord of 5 (children).
> What should one conclude in such a case??

You'll feel effects od Vipreet Raja Yoga. As far as Saturn is concerned as
5h lord, it depends of Navamsa, other influences, etc..

Dbd