Dear Swamin,

I apologize if I did not convey my thoughts clearly. What I had
mentioned was that Sri AndAl and Sri rAmAnujar are definitely a step
ahead than Bhumi Prattiyaar and Adi Seshan.

adiyEn
rAmAnuja dAsan

--- In ramanuja (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, senthil b <b_senthil2002@...> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Lakshmi Narasimhan Swamin:
>
> As you mentioned in mail, the reverse i.e., comparing
> BhU dEvi and Seshan with SrI Andal, Ramanujar in terms
> of bhagavat and bhaagavada abhimaanam is more than the
> latter.
>
> BhU dEvi after lifted by Sri VarAha moorthy, she asked
> the way for the uj~eevanam of jeevAtmAs like us.
> VarAha
> moorthy explains the way through Varaha Carama Slokam
> which is explained in Varaha Puranam.
> (Rescue of BhU dEvi by emperumAn in Varaha avatAram
> proves her bhagavad abhimaanam)
>
> Due to her bhaagavada abhimaanam, she took avatar
> as SrI Andal, and lead her life according to the
> Varaha Carama Slokam so that , the latter jeevAtmAs
> like us would attain the feet of Lord.!
>
> Without Her kArunyam towards us, we wont get Thirup
> pAvai now.
>
> Similarly, sEshan is known for his service to Lord
> at Sri vaikuntam as mentioned by alwar:
> "senrAl kudaiyAm irunthAl singAsanamAm..."
> -- muthal thiruvandhAdhi (53)
>
> He is doing kainkaryam to Lord in all forms. This
> proves his bhagavad abhimaanam. Similarly his birth
> as Srimad Ramanujar proves his bhaagavada abhimaanam.
>
> If there's any mistake please forgive and comments
> ont this are welcome!
>
> adiyEn,
> senthil.b
>
>
> --- Lakshmi Narasimhan <nrusimhann@...> wrote:
>
> > Dear Swamin,
> > The answer lies in your question itself. I am just
> > swapping the
> > sequence of information present in your question:
> > >From what i have learned from their life events, is
> > that both were
> > very humble and never claimed to be anything other
> > than servants of
> > the lord.
> >
> > > Now Sri Vaishnava sampradaya is 100% bonafide
> > according to
> > shrastras, i just wanted to know which shastras and
> > authority
> > provide us with the information that Sri Andal and
> > Sri Ramanuja are
> > Bhudevi avatara and Sesha avatara respectively.
> >
> > Similar to Sri Kothai Naacchiyaar and Sri
> > Emperumaanaar, bhudevi as
> > well as adiseshan are humble servants of the lord.
> > We must actually
> > try proving whether Bhudevi and Sesha really have
> > capabilities that
> > could be compared with the former in terms of
> > bhagavad and
> > bhaagavada abhimaanam and priyam rather than
> > vice-versa.
> >
> > adiyEn,
> > rAmAnuja dAsan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In ramanuja (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, "tesh_tel"
> > <tesh_tel@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Srimathe Ramanujaya Namah
> > >
> > > Dear devotees,
> > > Jai Sri Krishna.
> > >
> > > I have one issue which i am keen to have some
> > knowledge about. In
> > > Our dharma Sri Bhagavan and his associates
> > periodicaly take form
> > in
> > > the material world for the uplift of Jivas. One
> > unfortunate
> > feature
> > > of this beleif is that many wicked jivas take
> > advantage of this
> > > belief and claim themselves as God, some examples
> > include King
> > > Paundaraka in the Dwarapara Yuga (who claimed to
> > be the real
> > > krishna) and Puttarpathi saibaba in this yuga.
> > >
> > > Our shastras fortunalty provide validification of
> > The avatars so
> > > that we cannot be fooled. As we know by reading
> > the shastras we
> > have
> > > no doubt that Sri Rama and Sri Krishna are the
> > Supreme lord
> > himself.
> > > Now Sri Vaishnava sampradaya is 100% bonafide
> > according to
> > > shrastras, i just wanted to know which shastras
> > and authority
> > > provide us with the information that Sri Andal and
> > Sri Ramanuja
> > are
> > > Bhudevi avatara and Sesha avatara respectively.
> > From what i have
> > > learned from their life events, is that both were
> > very humble and
> > > never claimed to be anything other than servants
> > of the lord. I
> > > cannot recall a time when Sri Andal or Guru
> > Ramanuja displayed
> > their
> > > divine personalities. So how do we know of there
> > true identities???
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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