Dear Galaxy18 ji, I looked on your blog and you tell your name as Gaurav Mohnot. Are you initiated? If so, what is your initiated name. You copy & paste so many articles, but when someone asks a question, you seem unable to answer questions using any knowledge of your own.

Things have changed.The cattle owners to their dismay found out that it is more cost effective for them in the long run to let the calf take it's share of milk.

Hare Krishna aranya baba,
I am initiated, my name is gaurangasundar dasa -sisya of HIS HOLINESS MAHANIDHI SWAMI, You say I am unable to answer but I have already answered. I have already told in which scriptures you can find the names of foodstuff in mode of goodness. I am hear to share knowledge and not debate .I believe in sharing and not unnecessary arguing .if you are interested in a debate I invite you to come .if you want my address, phone no I'll give you. Than we'll see who has more knowledge. What I gave in my original post was a guideline as to what to eat what not to eat given by our acharayas.

Some one wrote I am only quoting purports and commentaries .well just to inform you srimad bhagavat puran is a commentary on the Vedanta sutra. So if you don't except commentaries as praman than i think you'll have to reject all purans, itihas, etc.
I have quoted from varaha purana.srimad bhagavatam etc. I have also given the scriptures in which in detail it is given what to eat what not to eat. If you'll are so much interested in finding the facts instead of debating use your time constructively by reading those books.

Aranya baba says I don't use any knowledge of your own but simply copy paste. thanks for your compliment.Srila Prabhupada and my guru maharaja always says what is the use of your knowledge ,you are imperfect so your knowledge is also imperfect .ever conditioned soul has 4 defect so quote from sastra .I don't speculate .and I advice you also don't speculate .just follow the sastra and our acharayas(perfect spiritual jivas).

really ? where did you find this fact ? can you show me ?

and even if it has changed now it was not so even a century back .

bhagavat purana is not a commentary to vedanta sutra !! it is something that a GV practitioner is taught and wishes to believe .

Ha ha ha …..What a joke mr sambya.
And even if you say that GV practitioner is taught and wishes to believe that Srimad Bhagavatam is a commentary on the Vedanta sutra.GV belief come from Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu who is Krishna himself and the proof of it is there is Vedas ,purana etc (articles regarding lord chaitanya being the supreme lord , who is predicted in the sastra, can be read on indiadivine.org). And Lord Krishna says in Bhagavad Gita Vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyah [Bg. 15.15]” By all the Vedas, I am to be known. Indeed, I am the compiler of Vedänta, and I am the knower of the Vedas” Lord Krishna is the ultimate authority. So Lord Krishna and Lord Chaitanya being the same personality if Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu teaches his followers citing from the sastra that Srimad Bhagavatam is a commentary on the Vedanta sutra than that is the proof .Do you have any problem and if so than that’s your problem

look here ....................... when you want to prove your point to a assembly of opposite or non-similar faiths you must draw those references and cite those logics which are commonly acceptable by all the parties present . for example if i am a chaarvak and say that vedas are lie because it says so in my scriptures it doesnt make any sense , does it ? or if i am a tantrik and say to a vaishnava that kali is supreme because my tantric scriptures say so would'nt that be illogical ? you are doing just that while forgetting that chaitanya is not accepted as an avatar in almost all other vaishnava sampradayas , what to speak of other sects like shaktas or shaivas . so what mahaprabhu has said can be of relevence to only those who believe in mahaprabhu and cannot be universally applied as a logic !! so you should try to frame your justification so as to why srimad bhagavatam is a commentary to vedanta sutra from such logic as would be universally apllicable . if you cannot then no discussion can be carried forth due to obvious reasons .

Galaxy18 Ji, take a look at what I said. I simply said that it seems that you don't speak from personal knowledge. I am making an observation and comment about your posting style because I find it unusual. You don't start a discussion, you just copy and paste huge amounts of text.
You say you are full of defects and have no knowledge so you quote sastra, but you really don't do that either. You provide some quotes or passages and just attribute it to this or that Purana without citing the verse numbers for reference. Just look at your first post that began this thread.

I make a very small comment and you get extremely defensive. I don't understand. Why? Why not address these things calmly and thoughtfully thus creating a proper atmosphere for discussion and learning?

Galaxyji I agree when you say, we are limited to our knowledge and that discussions and arguments can go on and on we must just listen to the words of our leaders. Thats what we do, and if we have some questions, I think there should be some room for discussions as well.

I wish you all have beautiful time with devotion to the Supreme,

Hari Om

I still dont understand why carrots,radish,onion,garlic,masoor dal, cannot be considered offerable whereas, chillies, pepper,mustard seeds,hing,ginger, potato, frozen canned food stuffs, can be offered. And please reply Is ONLY SAATTVIC food offerable?

Quote Sastra:
"Ha ha ha …..What a joke mr sambya."

aranya baba:
next time you get a diagnosis from a doctor --do you feel proud to boast, "My doctor never quotes established research --he does what feels right, I guess"???

or when your doctor says, 'You have not followed my advise . . . yet you return and ask for more of my services' --do you feel proud to boast, "My Doctor is so rude and makes me feel sick"?

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Quote Sastra: "Ha ha ha …..What a joke mr sambya."

What? I have no idea what that means.

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You request "knowledge of your own"

You request "citing the verse numbers for reference"

You request "What does taking instruction from bonefide doctor's doctrine mean?"

I request stop analysing and start contributing to society --do some work (not my speculation just following the sastra).

With all due respect Bhaktajan you have not contributed to anything to this thread. You only popped in to criticize. I was speaking to galaxy18 and not to you. I came and posted useful, legitimate information regarding the proper way to offer bhoga, by the way.

Aranya baba what is your question.
Galaxy 18 and bhaktjan copy and paste waht is very high knowledge.

Still waiting for answer to my question. IS only "satvic" food offerable?

I just read this today —some one posted this in 1999:
"Thakura Bhaktivinoda's 'Bhoga Arotika' song appears to apply more to Radha's breakfast offering than it does to Krishna's picnic lunch."

I apollogise to you Aranya Baba. I just now saw your early posting —even so, you wondered if stotrams used in Gaudiya-offerings differ from ISKCON. The answer is no. ISKCON and Gaudiya standards are the highest standards—and they have been taught concerned persons one-by-one in every hill & valley one this planet since 1965 without change.

Sonic yogis postings did not include the standard mantras as spoken by temple priests.

I hesitate to take my own mother's cooking without first observing what you posted at length —I would assume that if you had done "the offering" I wouldn't hesistate to Honor Lord Krishna's prasadam.

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Hmm . . . 'What did Srila Prabhupada [and/or the 'Vedas'] say about Prasadam?'

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Hmm . . . IS only "satvic" food offerable? Yes, but not if you touched your feet with it first. It is a 'standard of operation' that is maintained in 1st Rate Establishments (Mandir) ---whereas any homebody longingly strives as best that they humbly can do. No?

But, I agree SOMEONE ANSWER THE MAN. Hey! Ask Kurma! He'd be glad to respond . . .

Naivedya, Food offered to God , has to be not just in the mode of goodness (Satvic) , but in Pure Goodness (shuddha sattva) i.e. transcedental. But, how can we cook material food made up of the 5 elements - earth water fire air ether , and call it transcendental ?
Not. So, we do our best to offer Satvic Food to God, and as soon as He accepts it, it becomes His transcendental Mercy for us - Prasad.


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About the list of foods you mention -
Its the final outcome , preparation that has to be pleasant for the soul and light on the stomach. Then it means God liked it.


Following is what i have learnt from A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad and disciples in the line :

Foods like Onions, Garlic , Mushrooms are Rajasic/Tamasic . Onion and Garlic belong to the allium family whereas mushroom grows in the damp dark - darkness = mode of ignorance (tamasic).


Try cooking without onion (and garlic ! ) for a few days and see the difference.


Masoor Dal - Rajasic , mode of passion. Personally , whole masoor or red daal also , does not feel very calming when eaten - unlike toor and mung daal.

Carrots and Radish - i have no idea , someone said its given in the Manu Smriti right ? Lets ask them about it. It could be some chemicals in them OR the hygene - they come from the soil, have to be peeled right as they can be eaten raw, whereas potatoes and ginger get peeled and cooked.

Hing , mustard seeds bring flavor to the food. If they were rajasic we would have been told. Otherwise, the ultimate Yogi will eat boiled veggies, fruits, and nuts.

Peppers - if it were just for Krshna and me, i would skip them completely.

In Bhagvad Gita Krishna says

BG 17.9: Foods that are too bitter, too sour, salty, hot, pungent, dry and burning are dear to those in the mode of passion. Such foods cause distress, misery and disease.

So one small pepper will not make the whole dish Rajasic. We have to follow this guideline while preparing the food.

BG 17.8: Foods dear to those in the mode of goodness increase the duration of life, purify one's existence and give strength, health, happiness and satisfaction. Such foods are juicy, fatty, wholesome, and pleasing to the heart.

BG 17.10: Food prepared more than three hours before being eaten, food that is tasteless, decomposed and putrid, and food consisting of remnants and untouchable things is dear to those in the mode of darkness.

Nice Post Smaranam .

That should put the Incessant whiner Sambya to rest.

To Galaxy.Please take note that this forum is infested with whining hindus who take pride about their ignorance in hindu scriptures.

still no scriptures !!