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[Amlesh]

The day Audarya closes, I'll stop all my internet activities.

It's the only reason for my stay in front of a browser.

[Amlesh]

However, I do pity the newcomers, instead of getting light, they are pushed in the well. To be true, none of us try to see the level of understanding of the seeker and accordingly give solutions but instead all the high talks are sprouted to show the authenticity of our respective doctrines. Anyone will choose his path according to his nature.

Let the rest on the Divine and do help according to the best of your ability and let be freedom of choice.

PS: It applies prominently when dealing with newcomers. For the old timers, be as always.

It applies to me also.

[srikanthdk71]

Originally Posted by Amlesh The day Audarya closes, I'll stop all my internet activities. It's the only reason for my stay in front of a browser.

Dear Amlesh, you got the point. The forums are very very interesting eventhough there are different standpoints. This forum is unlike other forums which has one or two posts per day.

But Yes, it is not helping the new seeker and I totally agree with your point that it confuses them rather building on thier belief. But I too am glued to the internet due to this forum.

[bija]

I have been glued too. If this place closes maybe some of us will cross paths in some other place. I was in the process of moving from here to serve Gurudeva...I decided that 3 or 4 days ago...so it is my time to travel on home.

Climbing the coconut tree with you Amlesh, has been lots of fun. Wish there was a coconut tree smiley option! Take care ol' mate. Haribolo!

[suchandra]

Originally Posted by bija Thank you Jndas, I have learnt so much here in some ways, and grown to love Theist, Mahak, Kula, Krsna, Stone, Pankaja, Jan, gHari, Dark Warrior...

Well yes, I'll tell you what, probably the actual reason why Audarya moderators consider to close are those who quote Prabhupada, Prabhupada's teachings. They're considered as "negative". And why is quoting Prabhupada considered as, "You're negative"? It is mainly those questions that address, what is a suspended diksa-guru, or what is a fallen spiritual master? As soon such topics are addressed there's of course no philosophical answer because there's none, but instead you're labeled as "negative". So all those posters who came up with "you're negative" answers finally posted less and lesser, and when asking how come that some Vaishnavas have almost nothing to share, "oh you're negative get out of my way". Even daily news posts which can be easily dovetailed to Bhagavad-gita, commented as this is all spam. Ignored, isolated, "this is all negative".
However, when asking to answer simple questions as above, no answer.
"This is negative".
In sum, the pressure from the present establishment became too hard, although a temple might be named as Bhaktivedanta Ashram. We have to learn to live with suspended and fallen spiritual masters, and then there're anyway no more questions to be discussed. it is all how it is and main thing, no more "negative posts" from Prabhupada's books, quotes which might offend the wellwishers of suspended spiritual masters.

[liselina]

Please, even with the fighting I have learned new things about god, myself and others. I don't presume this is a democracy or a referendum, but my 'vote' is in favour of the forums. I beleive you have created a wonderfull venue for learning and exploration. Like many things perhaps these forums are suffering growing pains? They might be remedied by some of the suggestions above, no? I will concede that if this volunteering not rewarding then an alternative must be found.

I am a new member and I have stumbled upon ugly altercations yet I keep coming back and that is because of the overall quality and variety, interest and honesty that I find on these pages. Please keep the forums open. And thank you for all the hours and care that have gone into this site to begin with.

Namaste

Liselina

[realist]

Originally Posted by theist Jndas, I think you can see from the above quick response that many are helped towards God consciousness by your forums and how many others have received at least some measure of help through the years we can not say. I have thanked you beforew and I thank you again for providing such a unique spot to express these ideas but 'the thanks you's' will never be adequate to the blessing received. That is the way of true blessings. It is unfortunate we the participants are too immature and false ego driven to conduct such disscussions free from fault finding and animosity. The fact is we are all basically the always short lived, quarrelsome, unlucky and always disturbed (and disturbing) residents of kali-yuga. We are also great in number and so will always bring our bad habits to any site we visit. This means that your desire for mature discussion for the benefit of the newcomer will always be frustrated unfortunately. So the question is how to keep the positive and even increase it while curbing the negative. The present spiritual discussion forum format will never work as it is. This one board needs strong moderation. And I might add the moderaros should not be so aloof as to never give a reason why any action is taken or to ignore questions when put to them. Whenever I post a question as to why a post of mine was deleted the only response I get is to have tha post deleted also. EXTEMELY RUDE AND IMPERSONAL IMO. So I can only suggest keeping Spiritual Discussion open if it can be moderated properly and if it can't be just delete it. There are plenty of good boards on AF to take up the slack.

Keep open the Hare-Krishna.org Forums with a thread explaing strict rules to not deviate from those threads. And maybe theist can help as a moderaters. This is only the beginning of the 'computor age'

As a young boy who grew up in ISKCON and now is a man, Jahnava Nitai prabhu has done amazing service in many fields however I understand that he is concerned that his attempt to bring people closer to God has been polluted with so many nonsense ideas, some openly critizing His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada and instead of coming closer to God, they are carving their way to hell. Yes, diffinitely close down the 'Spiritual thread!'

At least keep Hare-Krishna.org Forums for ISKCON devotees and congregation with a list of rules to keep out the trolls

[Amlesh]

Originally Posted by realist And maybe theist can help as a moderaters.

That was on my mind, and also I would have liked Bishadi to be included in that list that could help the mods.

[realist]

Originally Posted by Amlesh That was on my mind, and also I would have liked Bishadi to be included in that list that could help the mods.

You have got to be joking! With a silly picture of a cat representing him, how does that nonsense remind us of God. He is on my ignore list because ofthat stupied cat

No, theist would be good but probably would not be interested in ISKCON internal. Hare Krishna thread, possibly

[Amlesh]

Originally Posted by realist You have got to be joking! With a silly picture of a cat representing him, how does that nonsense remind us of God. He is on my ignore list because ofthat stupied cat No, theist would be good but probably would not be interested in ISKCON internal. Hare Krishna thread, possibly

He does not come from any school, but he is armed with Truth. He won't be bias in his approach. Sooner or later we'll have the tendency to talk about our school of thought, that too, with an aura of glory. But the cat won't, cause he does not have one.

The exception among us is Theist, though coming from a school, he has mastered the real principle of Vaishnavism, he has seen unity in diversity.

[bhaktatraveler]

Hare Krsna to all

All glories to Srila Prabhupada

Close or not will be of no import to any of us in the long run of it. It is just interactive TV. On the other hand there are those that need such things for a time and come here for that purpose, have courage that this site touches those that are in this need in a valuable spiritual way.

I come on a daily bases but chosse not to post because I'm to controversial in my veiws for most, if not all of you. But I met Bk Mark and that makes this place for me a pilgrimage place on the internet. Though I disagree with sooooo much that is said. But I can understand it is not for me, it is for other. So I do not comment for sometime now. No problem for me, yours or the others.

If you quit, I agee with a previous posters view that someone will start a-new. But why keep starting over? Stay the course, trim those sails and head right into the wind.

Good luck all bhaktas

Thank you very much, Hare Krsna.

RCB

PS. Yes we have free will, but it is small. Krsna knows the future, even how you will choose. Based on that, we predesine ourselves and Krsna manages all jives free will in this way to created the future desiny. On the other hand Prabhupada has said we can change guna and karma in this life time. But this is just another choise Krsna already knows of and will arrange the world around you accordingly. Just a thought. Free will and destiny go together. Action and reaction. I truly am free to act but bound by the results in which Krsna arranges the material creation around, free will.

[bhaktajan]

If the moderators demand a standard of ettiquette:
"No Personal Disparagements", "No Personal analysis", "No Personal address", "No Personal attacks".
After all, this isn't about politics. Keep all postings "academic" and, "Scholarly".
One can be pandantic & haughty without 'attacking' another persons lack of agreement of any topic.

It's all about being trained-up over time in the wiles of "Public Speaking & Presentation".

Ask everyone to take a personal oath before posting to:
"No use of personal pronouns nor adjectives in conjuction with derogatory words."

A ban on words like [or synomyns of]:
Stupid,
Fool,
ignorant,
mudha,
arrogant,
simple-minded,
uneducated,
pompous,
know-it-all,
dope, etc


And the moderator should chime it to remove the digressing 'few words[insulting personal pronouns]' and thus also, leave a 'editorial mark' to show that the offending portion was deleted, ie: [Deleted] --so as to a) the moderator may be the face of a Dormatory monitor; and, b) an Editorial voice.

[Bart Happel]

Originally Posted by bhaktajan If the moderators demand a standard of ettiquette: "No Personal Disparagements", "No Personal analysis", "No Personal address", "No Personal attacks". After all, this isn't about politics. Keep all postings "academic" and, "Scholarly". One can be pandantic & haughty without 'attacking' another persons lack of agreement of any topic. It's all about being trained-up over time in the wiles of "Public Speaking & Presentation". Ask everyone to take a personal oath before posting to: "No use of personal pronouns nor adjectives in conjuction with derogatory words." A ban on words like [or synomyns of]: Stupid, Fool, ignorant, mudha, arrogant, simple-minded, uneducated, pompous, know-it-all, dope, etc And the moderator should chime it to remove the digressing 'few words[insulting personal pronouns]' and thus also, leave a 'editorial mark' to show that the offending portion was deleted, ie: [Deleted] --so as to a) the moderator may be the face of a Dormatory monitor; and, b) an Editorial voice.

Such 'functionallity' can be automated by the forum-software. At least in version 3.4.7, if I'm correct..

Edit: But this will of course only work for really strong words like [DELETED]...[/DELETED]. Otherwise it will hinder users to express themselves. Moderators will be necessary.

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by Bart Happel Such 'functionallity' can be automated by the forum-software. At least in version 3.4.7, if I'm correct.. Edit: But this will of course only work for really strong words like [DELETED]...[/DELETED]. Otherwize it will hinder users to express themselves. Moderators will be necessary.

a contribution of mind and capabilities..

How much? Can you impliment? And I have $100 for the cause, who else wishes to contribute for the good of 'continuing the life' of this site?

Can we still use 'rascal'? ......... that one cracks me up just writing it.

Amlesh, this i is weak in the knees from that reflection.
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Perhaps you are truly aware of what 'good' is within the compassion of each branch of faith.

the only choice to make is; experience them as part of what we are alive for; to experience what is.

like this site; we can each learn lessons, from even a car wreck

each person here is oooosually arriving to learn something they knew not yesterday. So each exchange founded and pure within Audarya, is born to that person from Audarya, whether Jahnava and his moderators recognize it or not.

so that diversity is what interrelations of minds do; we can combine the variety of experiences from both minds and soul within the dialogue of words, literature and the compassion between each.

The problem arise when feelings are adversly imposed by ill regard and them of ill regard are easy to spot within a few moments of interaction.

Remember that 6th sense we each possess?

so we can each question ourselves as well each other as long as the compassion of absolute honesty to what 'good and bad' are can make this site a home to the evolution of knowledge between even the greatest diversity of minds.

Which is where a debate in itself could arrise; establishing the parameters.

Is the intent biased or is the intent for the pursuit of 'absolute truth'?

[RadhaMukunda]

Maybe we need a new forum.

[Pankaja_Dasa]

anyone can open for free as well freeforums. but would have same problems.