When is it the right time to go over to the Gaudiya Math? - Page 4

07-12-2006, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Guest entity

I didn't feel that I was "blasting" anyone - much less the whole group.

I was just explaining why I left institutional life and why I have no plans to ever return.

I NEVER "blasted" Yudha at all ever!
He never pretended to be anything except a grhasta doing service.
I have no problems with that.

I have no grudge against Sudhir Maharaja.
He had his own issues to deal with and he appears to be back in full force.

Please don't accuse me blasting anyone.
I don't blast anyone.
I might not agree with everyone and express those disagreements, but I don't consider myself the blaster of anyone.

Can't a person disagree with anyone without being considered a "blaster".

Blasting is what the Muslims do.
They do it with high explosives.

I don't blast.
I disagree.

sorry

07-12-2006, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Guest

sorry

it's no biggie.
I am very thick-skinned when it comes to taking personal criticism.

My life has been tough for a long time.
I certainly don't let little things bother me when have got real issues like birth, death, old age and disease to deal with.

try raising teen-agers in today's world.
Then you will find out what real challenge is about.

07-12-2006, 02:30 AM

My kids are younger so I have that to look forward to

raga · 07-12-2006, 03:34 AM

The differences between ISKCON and any given other "Indian" group following Bhaktisiddhanta are substantially greater than the differences between the Indian groups. Therefore, a division between the two is befitting.

Why must we find ONE collective term to classify them? Because sometimes we need to collectively refer to them, but separate from ISKCON. I've also read and heard a great number of representatives of these different branches refer to themselves as "Gaudiya Math".

Then, I think this point is just a matter of wrangling, and I am not willing to engage in wrangling, especially not in Kripamoya ad-hoc style.

07-12-2006, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by raga

Then, I think this point is just a matter of wrangling, and I am not willing to engage in wrangling, especially not in Kripamoya ad-hoc style.

Geez Madhava, I thought my ad hoc wrangling was invoking some very informative and inspired reactions from yooz Sanskrit nerds who have direct access to shastra.

Ignernt Americans like myself can simply rely on Srila Prabhupada and Sridhar Maharaja to tell us what is in the shastra because we can't read Sanskrit and thus have NO direct access to shastra.

I'm sorry about my ad hoc ways Madhava.
I do appreciate you and understand that you are thousands of times more intelligent than me.

Legioss · 07-12-2006, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Legioss

I believe just about every so-called "GM Guru", including Srila Sridhar Maharaj, has disassociated themselves from "Gaudiya Math".

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Originally Posted by Guest

Sridhar Maharaja was never a GM (Gaudiya Matha) guru.

It is very bad practice to try and classify him as such.

Even after establishing his own Matha, Sridhar Maharaja was doubtful about accepting disciples. He only had a very few disciples.

Then, on an occasion of pilgrimage to Eka-chakra (birthplace of Nityananda prabhu), Lord Nityananda appeared to Sridhar Maharaja in a dream and told him not to be reluctant to accept disciples.

After that, Sridhar Maharaja was more open to accepting disciples into his Sri Caitanya Saraswata Matha.

Sridhar Maharaja was never a guru of the Gaudiya Matha institution.

Well excuuse me, prabhu. I only used the phrase "GM guru" within quotes, to quote how ISKCON and rtvks refer to everyone in the line of Bhaktisiddhanta that is not within the ISKCON umbrella.

Again, none of the current acharyas or acharya lineages still have this official "Gaudiya Math" affiliation. If an acharya was in Gaudiya Math as a disciple, they formed their own missions as acharyas. Srila Sridhar Maharaj formed his own mission, as did Srila BP Keshava Maharaj, Srila BD Madhava Maharaj, Srila BP Puri Maharaj, and Srila BV Puri Maharaj.