I never saw this.

However, I would like to take this opportunity to bring up an old pet peeve. In the pranam mantra to Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, it really should recognized that the words most people sing as _sarasvatI deve_ have no relevant meaning in Sanskrit. What it should be is _sArasvata-deva_. That is a vocative, "O divine follower of Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati."

I only saw it on the books one time.
I went back and found it again for my own personal reference, but I did not mark it and so I will have to look it up again.

I always thought is was "Saraswate Devam"

hows does that work?
is that any better than Saraswati deve?

namas te sArasvata deva
gauravANI-pracAriNe
nirvizeSa-zUnyavAdi-
pAzcAtya-deza-tAriNe

The Sanskrit word namas must take the dative case. "te" "pracAriNe" and "tAriNe" are all datives. None of the forms that are currently chanted are datives. Devam, for instance, is an accusative. The only other case you can use in these circumstances is a vocative,

"O divine disicple of Saraswati Thakur! I bow down to you, who preaches the message of Lord Chaitanya and who delivers the Western countries full of the doctrines of impersonalism and voidism.

Reserve me a spot on the time-machine boat and we can go hear from Srila Sridhar Maharaja early in the morning. What time are you leaving?

Most of the western world is predominantly Judeo-Christian.

Was that saying that Christianity and Judaism are basically impersonalim?

Who were the big impersonalists and voidists that were in the USA back in 1965 when Prabhupada came?

Even hearing his audio tapes can bring me to tears.
I have had bhava dreams where I was setting in front of him listening to him and crying to pitifully.

In one dream I looked in his eyes and his eyes rolled back in his head and he went into trance and took me with him and I saw a vision of Navadvip kirtan.

There are mystic experiences to be had even to this day.

I think these terms mean atheism.

His bedroom and the verandah have just been renovated. Most of the work was done by Divya Shakti.

Three months ago I went upstairs to help put some new curtains up, with Divya Shakti, Sayta Swarup and Gaurachandra. I was so happy to be able to go back into his bedroom again.

Another day Divya Shakti took my son and I upstairs. I sat on the exact spot where I sat when he spoke Gayatri Mantra into my ear. I repeated the gayatri I had heard from his lotus mouth, remembering the way he said "om bhu bhuvah svah" and the rest.

Prabhupada is present in his instructions....if we are attached to Prabhupada - then we'll have neither problem - because Prabhupada is accessible in his books - we don't need the GM nor - do we really need Iskcon - if we cannot succeed in an independent position - then I doubt that either camp could be of any service to aspiring transcendentalists.

Every time i hear his voice on audio tape I weep.

When he passed away I was living in Badger.
Urukram prabhu came to my house and broke the news.
He arranged a program for that evening in remberance.

As soon as I walked into his home and saw all those sad devotees I broke down pathetically and cried like a baby all night.

I was so embarassed. I didn't want to do that in front of the devotees, but I also didn't want to leave the rememberance gathering of the devotees.

I was embarassed all night long as I cried loudly without stop.

I was just so broken hearted to see the sadness of the devotees and to know what we were all losing.

I was remembering the sweetness and sincerity of Sridhar Maharaja and the hundreds of hours I had spend listening to his tapes over and over again.

I was never an intimate personal associate of Sridhar Maharaja.
I was on the verge of going to Navadvip and taking sannyasa from him when I had a change of heart and saw too many devotees going there to bother him until he gave them sannyasa.

I did not want to be like them.

Eventually, I had some problems with Sudhir Maharaja when he became initiating guru and Brahma das was coercing new devotees to take initiation from Sudhir Maharaja. the picture on the altar etc,.....

I left the movement in frustration and I haven't been back since.

I doubt I ever will.

Life moves on.

Last Gaurapurnima night the fireworks attracted about 7,000 people to the Math from the surrounding area. There were 6,000 in the Math's parikrama party as well, all gathered for the festival.

The morning Sri Govinda Kunda was filled with pieces of the fireworks and litter left by the Nabadwip bhasis. We jumped in the kunda, on that hot morning, and spent several hours making everything spotless and tidy again.

When I stood on the steps of the ghat collecting fireworks wrappers the big fish were looking up at me from the water and smiling.

May Sri Govinda Kunda be the object of my constant rememberance.

I wrote "The morning Sri Govinda Kunda"

I meant to say "The next morning Sri Govinda Kunda"

I haven't had the luxury of going to India in many years. I have been raising three kids alone for the last 10 years and struggling to get by.

My parents bought me a little bungalow in this area and I live comfortably, but certainly never having the resources to fly back and forth to India.

Nitai Gaura Hari bol, Nitai Gaura Hari bol, Nitail Gaura Hari bol, Dayal Nitai, Dayal Nitai, Mahaprabhu Gauranga Sundar, Mahaprabhu Gauranga Sundar,
Caitanya, Caitanya, Nitai Gaura Hari bol, Nitai Gaura Hari bol...

It's easy to say a group or movement are wrong because of things that happened years ago. It's easy to blast Sudhir or Yudha for things that happened long ago in Santa Cruz. But Sudhir and Y are not the same anymore. Neither are you, I expect.

We can blast the movement as you call it but this movement you blast has opened centres in Siberia and 3 centres in China. These centres have not been at the expense of ISKCON either. SCSMath doesn't take people from ISKCON and for that reason ISKCON managerment is generally friendly with SCSMath. Yes Yudha was a rascal in the past but look where he is now. And are you sinless, that you can throw the first stone? Consider this too. It isn't Srila Sridhar Maharaj planning this Siberian adventure or the opening of temples on the silk route in Western China. Srila Sridhar Maharaj inspired us then and he inspires us now too -- but the person he put in the Acharya's chair is also inspiring for these young people in China pictured below.

Life moves on.

I'm unable to post the picture or links I mentioned in the post above. Must be the Chinese govt. censors!

Sudhir Goswami gives great classes and is an equally good writer when his focuses on the advices of his guardians. But, I must say I am appalled by the visciousness of his attacks on NM (also T. Swami) and his followers. We become angry when we try to control the environment and the outcome of events. The SCSM needs to let the NM issue go and focus on the positive message of Srila Sridhar Maharaja and Srila Govinda Maharaja. There is no reason to make an unholy alliance with ISKCON. Their GBC men blaspheme Srila Govinda Maharaja behind his and the SCSM devotees backs. I have first hand experience of this. People are going to do what they're going to do, get over it, and get out the positive message of the happy waves emanating from Navadvipa.

A Holy Alliance, in my view.

I didn't feel that I was "blasting" anyone - much less the whole group.

I was just explaining why I left institutional life and why I have no plans to ever return.

I NEVER "blasted" Yudha at all ever!
He never pretended to be anything except a grhasta doing service.
I have no problems with that.

I have no grudge against Sudhir Maharaja.
He had his own issues to deal with and he appears to be back in full force.

Please don't accuse me blasting anyone.
I don't blast anyone.
I might not agree with everyone and express those disagreements, but I don't consider myself the blaster of anyone.

Can't a person disagree with anyone without being considered a "blaster".

Blasting is what the Muslims do.
They do it with high explosives.

I don't blast.
I disagree.

ISKCON and SCSM have a better relationship than ISKCON and Narayana Maharaja's group for one simple reason; SCSM genuinely respects and appreciates ISKCON more than the other group does and they don't make nuisance around ISKCON temples.

Narayana Maharaja has been very critical of ISKCON leaders for many years.
SCSM has virtually not made a peep about ISKCON leadership.

That's why they have a more holy relationship of mutual respect.

The devotees of SCSM have NEVER preached the kind of absolute acceptance of Sridhar Maharaja or Govinda Maharaja that the followers of Narayana Maharaja have been preaching for years and years.

It's easy to see why ISKCON and SCSM have a more congenial relationship.

You don't have to be a Sanskrit nerd to figure that one out.