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sadhu-sanga -
09-19-2002, 02:48 AM
Jaya Radhe!
Jaya Krsna!
Jaya Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga!
Krsna bhakti janma mula haya sadhu sanga
Krsna prema janme tenho punah mukhya anga
CC Madhya 22.83
Sadhu sanga
- ist the root cause of krsna-bhakti
- waters the creeper of bhakti
- bring the fruit of krsna-prema
- remains the most essential anga of bhakti when krsna-prema was awakened.
The sadhus are still here i.e.
the boat to cross the ocean of material existence is still here.
But not everybody has enough sukriti to take the association of the sadhu.
EVERYBODY should be respected
according his level.
My humble obeissances to all the devotees that read this words.
and I not qualified to present my obeisances
to all the Vaisnavas that were and will be,
where ever they might be.
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Speaking of Sadhu Sanga... -
09-19-2002, 08:23 PM
When is the next Narayan Maharaj tour? or Srila Bhakti Vaibhava Puri Maharaj?
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For your information -
09-21-2002, 06:00 AM
According to my sources (BVNM desciples), BVNM will be in South Florida around the end of February, 03. and arrangements for his visit are being planned.
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Sublime verse from SB -
09-21-2002, 06:09 AM
<center>rahu gaNai tat tapasA na yAti
na cejyayA nirvapaNAd gRhAd vA
na cchaMdasA naiva jalAgni sUryair
vinA mahatpAda rajobhiSekaM
Jada Bharata declares to King Rahugana,
<font color="blue">"O Rahugana, one does NOT attain this
(state of Divine consciousness of Self-realization)
through asceticism nor through Vedic rituals,
nor again by dealing out food and
other necessaries among the needy,
nor by duly performing one's religious duties
pertainig to household life,
nor through a proper study of Vedic scriptures,
nor through the worship of gods presiding
over water, fire and sun, NOR by ANY OTHER MEANS,</font>
<font color="red">EXCEPT by sprinkling one's body, mind and soul with
<big>the dust of feet of exalted Godrealzed saints."</big></font>
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Volunteers required -
09-21-2002, 07:32 AM
His Divine Grace A C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
Are there any volunteers that could carry the murti and tapes of Srila Prabhupada on a tour
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sadhu-sanga tour -
09-21-2002, 07:48 AM
I had the wonderful oportunity to hear for two days (the 19-th and 20-th of Sept.2002) from the lotus mouth of Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana in Viena (Austria).
From there He went today the 21.09.02 to Odessa (Ukrain).
For more information
http://gaudiya.net/index.htm
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raga-anuga -
09-23-2002, 08:25 AM
Khona bhagye karo samsara KSHAYON-MUKHA haye
Sadhu-sange tabe krsna rati upajaya
CC Madhya 22.45
When the wandering in samsara begin to dimnish
Jiva obtains sadhu-sanga
By the causeless mercy of bhagavan
By that sadhu-sanga jiva obtains rati
rati means bhava (the sprout of prema)
"sa bhakti SADHANA bhaktir BHAVA bhakti
PREMA bhakti iti trividha
sadahna bhakti punar
VAIDHI RAGA-ANUGA bhedena dvividha"
Here sa bhakti means pure bhakti
Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura writes in Jaiva Dharma
"When Krsna wills it
the sadhaka's relationship with the material world
tends toward its termination.
This stage that avent liberation is khown as KSHAYON-MUKHA
1.svarupa sddhi
- jiva is situated in his svarupa (spiritual body)
- but because the material body remains
- the relationship with the material world remains intact.
2. vastu-siddhi
- when jiva give up the gross and subtle bodies
- and attains the spiritual abode in his siddha-deha
When one attains vastu-siddhi
Raga-atmika vriti is awakened
In his svarupa - spiritual body
In his vastu - constitutional state
Raga-atmika means
The atma is permeated with raga (spontaneous attachement and love)
Raga-atmika prakriti
Is the nature of the eternal residents of Vraja
To follow the way of raga (RAGA-ANUGA)
Should be ardently sought by the jivas
As long as jiva is not
In the RAGA-ANUGA stage
He remains SPONTANEOUSLY attached to mundane objects.
Raga-anuga is the nature
that impels one
to follow the soul's spontaneous attraction toward the Lord.
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Association only with tapes and guru murti is like ritvic -
10-17-2002, 06:51 PM
Sri bhagavan uvaca
Na rodhayati mam yogo na sankhyam dharma eva ca
Na svadhyayas tapas tyago nesta purttam na daksina
Vratani yahnas cchandamsi tirthani niyama yamah
Yathavarundhe SAT SANGAH sarva sangapaho hi mam
Srimad Bhagavatam (11.12.1-2)
Sri Bhagavan said,
I am not controlled by those who
Perform yoga,
Study sankhya philosophy
Perform religious duties and pious activities
Study the Vedas
Perform penances and austerities, practice renunciation and accept sannyasa
Perform sacrifice and welfare activities, give donations in charity
Practice fasting and other vows, perform yajna
Chant confidential mantras
Go on pilgrimage and
Follow all the rules and regulations for spiritual life.
However one who accepts SAT SANGA which destroys all material attachments
Can control Me.
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bhakti in sadhu sanga -
04-26-2003, 04:03 AM
All angas of bhakti should be done in
sadhu sanga
e ghora samsare padiya manava na
paya duhkhera shesa
<font color="red"> sadhu sanga </font color> kori hari bhaja yadi
tabe anta haya klesha
Having fallen into samsara jiva
finds no end to his destress.
If he takes to the worship of Hari <font color="red"> by the association of sadhus </font color>
his trouble comes to an end.
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A sadhu speaks only Hari katha -
05-14-2003, 07:01 AM
sadhu-sastra-krpaya yadi krsnonmukha haya
sei jiva nistare, maya tahare chadaya
"If the conditioned soul becomes Krsna conscious (attached to Krsna and His beloveds)
by the mercy of saintly persons sadhu
who voluntarily preach scriptural injunctions and
help him to become Krsna conscious,
the conditioned soul is liberated from the clutches of maya,
who gives him up."
(C.c. Madhya 20.120)
In this world there is immense facility to hear mundane talks,
but there is great scarcity of hari-katha.
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kailasa -
05-14-2003, 08:11 AM
As stated by Narottama d&#1076;sa &#1062;h&#1076;kura, sadhu-&#1079;&#1076;stra-guru: one has to test all spiritual matters according to the instructions of saintly persons, scriptures and the spiritual master. The spiritual master is one who follows the instructions of his predecessors, namely the sadhus, or saintly persons. A bona fide spiritual master does not mention anything not mentioned in the authorized scriptures. Ordinary people have to follow the instructions of s&#1076;dhu, &#1079;&#1076;stra and guru. Those statements made in the &#1079;&#1076;stras and those made by the bona fide s&#1076;dhu or guru cannot differ from one another.
Neither a s&#1076;dhu (saintly person or Vai&#1089;&#1083;ava) nor a bona fide spiritual master says anything that is beyond the scope of the sanction of the revealed scriptures. Thus the statements of the revealed scriptures correspond to those of the bona fide spiritual master and saintly persons.
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One should accept a thing as genuine by studying the words of saintly people, the spiritual master and sastra. The actual center is sastra, the revealed scripture. If a spiritual master does not speak according to revealed scripture, he is not to be accepted. Similarly, if a saintly person does not speak according to the &#1079;&#1076;stra, he is not a saintly person. Sastra is the center for all.
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This is guru. Guru means hell always enlighten the disciple with the light of sastra. Not that he will say, "There is no need of sastra. I am incarnation. I, whatever speak, you take it." No.
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\'sastra-guru-atma\'-rupe apanare janana -
05-15-2003, 08:32 AM
'sastra-guru-atma'-rupe apanare janana
'krsna mora prabhu, trata'---jivera haya jnana
"The forgetful conditioned soul is educated by Krsna through the Vedic literatures,
the realized spiritual master and
the Supersoul.
Through these, he can understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead as He is, and
he can understand that Lord Krsna is his eternal master and deliverer from the clutches of maya.
In this way, one can acquire real knowledge of his conditioned life and can come to understand how to attain liberation." (C.c. Madhya 20.123)
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