Kal Bhairo according to Swami Ram

Triniboy108 · 05-26-2008, 12:42 AM

I stumbled upon this website that is bashing Kal Bhairo, I mean it goes so far to say that this is the Devil. This so called "Swami Ram" has 5 articles that all bash Kal Bhairo and repeatedly calls him the Devil, which absolutely gets me upset. I don't think this Swami Ram knows what he's talking about, and he is just a golddigger, using innocent people to make money.

here is the link to the first article labeled Evil Spirits:
http://www.swamiram.com/articles/kalb.php

Triniboy108 · 05-26-2008, 12:44 AM

For example this is what it says in first article:

Generally, a person who worships Kal Bairo will have the following symptoms:

Their body will darken in color
Their eyes will have dark rings around them
Their eyes may become red or pink
Their body will vibrate during prayers
They will experience pain in the joints
Women will experience problems with their uterus
The person will experience back pains, neck pains and headaches
The person will have a lot of blockages in life - no job, broken marriage
Women may experience sexual contact with evil spirits
If religious mantras are being recited, the person may get up and dance
The person may become addicted to tobacco and alcohol
The person is always dressed in black clothes and is attracted to the color black

HOW DOES KAL BAIRO COME INTO YOUR LIFE?

From debts owed by parents or grandparents
By eating food from a Kal Bairo sacrifice
By eating prasad at a Kal Bairo or Kateri Puja
By eating food from a death ritual
By eating food from someone who is possessed by Kal Bairo
By having sexual contact with a person possessed by Kal Bairo
By eating red meat such as duck, beef or goat
By sleeping in a North-South position
By performing a Durga puja and offering the 10^th prasad plate to Kal Bairo

i mean come on....how far away from the truth can this man get?!

RadheyRadhey108 · 05-26-2008, 11:04 PM

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By sleeping in a North-South position

Oh please

Even if Lord Shiva's incarnation as Khal Bhairo were a devil (which, of course, isn't the case), I hardly think He'd be able to 'possess' ppl just by the direction they sleep in.

Triniboy108 · 05-26-2008, 11:07 PM

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Oh please

Even if Lord Shiva's incarnation as Khal Bhairo were a devil (which, of course, isn't the case), I hardly think He'd be able to 'possess' ppl just by the direction they sleep in.

haha..exactly what i'm saying!

I just think this Swami Ram Charran is a money making scam!

RadheyRadhey108 · 05-26-2008, 11:08 PM

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If religious mantras are being recited, the person may get up and dance

What's even wrong with that? Many Hindu saints have been so ecstatic during the singing or bhajans or repetition of mantras that their hair stands on end and they go into a cold sweat before dancing and singing for the Lord! This 'swami' is a real fool who knows nothing of devotion or the Rasa involved.

Triniboy108 · 05-26-2008, 11:10 PM

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What's even wrong with that? Many Hindu saints have been so ecstatic during the singing or bhajans or repetition of mantras that their hair stands on end and they go into a cold sweat before dancing and singing for the Lord! This 'swami' is a real fool who knows nothing of devotion or the Rasa involved.

Once again i agree!! A great example is Mirabai, who was always seen dancing and singing the praises of Shyam!

RadheyRadhey108 · 05-26-2008, 11:11 PM

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haha..exactly what i'm saying!

I just think this Swami Ram Charran is a money making scam!

I agree. If you look at his website, he hardly even mentions God or His incarnations.

RadheyRadhey108 · 05-26-2008, 11:12 PM

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Once again i agree!! A great example is Mirabai, who was always seen dancing and singing the praises of Shyam!

The worst part (or maybe it's the most amusing) is that if you mentioned Mira, he probably wouldn't even know who She was!

Triniboy108 · 05-26-2008, 11:15 PM

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The worst part (or maybe it's the most amusing) is that if you mentioned Mira, he probably wouldn't even know who She was!

wow..you're absolutely right! This is the most amusing part if you asked me! lol

RadheyRadhey108 · 05-26-2008, 11:17 PM

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wow..you're absolutely right! This is the most amusing part if you asked me! lol

Hahahahaha

Triniboy108 · 05-26-2008, 11:33 PM

Something that i find very dumb about this "Swami" is this info he gives us in one of his articles about the "evil" Kal Bhairo:
"If we take off the letter ‘a’ from the end of ‘Kala’ we get ‘Kal’. And if we replace the ‘ava’ from ‘Bairava’ with the letter ‘o’, we get ‘Bairo’. Quite an ingenuous plan on the part of the swindlers who want to make money from innocent people," I surmised.

He's basically saying that the local pujaries replaced parts of Kala Bhairava's name to form a name similar to his but having no relation to him. This is absolute stupidity. For any learned person would know that this is just a different pronunciation of Kala Bhairava. I see this a lot in the Bhojpuri language for common names of the Gods...such as the word devata is said as deota....just like the name Mahadeva is pronounced Mahadeo...just like Shiva is pronounced as Siew...you can see that it is the same name just a different pronunciation....it would fit clearly if we see that Kala can be shortened to Kaal or Kal(seeing how in Hindi the last 'a' would be silent) and the Bhairava would be shortened to Bhairo which is another pronunciation for it. So Kal Bhairo is the same as Kala Bhairava! Swami Ram Charran does not know what he's talking about!!!!

Triniboy108 · 05-26-2008, 11:43 PM

and verily, Kal Bhairo is Shiva:
Shiva created a blazing Bhairava in human form, addressing this Kalabhairava as "Lord of Time-Death" (kala) for he shone like the god of Death: "You are called Bhairava because you are of terrifying features and are capable of supporting the universe. You are called Kala-Bhairava, for even Time-Death is terrified of you." He ordered him to chastise Brahma, promising him in return eternal suzerainty over his city of Kashi (Varanasi), the cremation-ground of the Hindu universe, where final emancipation is assured. In a trice, Bhairava ripped off Brahma's guilty head with the nail of his left thumb. Seeing this, the terrified Vishnu eulogized Shiva and devotedly recited his sacred hymns, followed in this by the repentant Brahma. Thereby they gained his protection by realizing and acknowledging the supreme reality of Shiva. The severed head immediately stuck to Bhairava's hand, where it remained in the form of the skull, destined to serve as his insatiable begging-bowl.

RadheyRadhey108 · 05-27-2008, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Triniboy108

Something that i find very dumb about this "Swami" is this info he gives us in one of his articles about the "evil" Kal Bhairo:
"If we take off the letter ‘a’ from the end of ‘Kala’ we get ‘Kal’. And if we replace the ‘ava’ from ‘Bairava’ with the letter ‘o’, we get ‘Bairo’. Quite an ingenuous plan on the part of the swindlers who want to make money from innocent people," I surmised.

He's basically saying that the local pujaries replaced parts of Kala Bhairava's name to form a name similar to his but having no relation to him. This is absolute stupidity. For any learned person would know that this is just a different pronunciation of Kala Bhairava. I see this a lot in the Bhojpuri language for common names of the Gods...such as the word devata is said as deota....just like the name Mahadeva is pronounced Mahadeo...just like Shiva is pronounced as Siew...you can see that it is the same name just a different pronunciation....it would fit clearly if we see that Kala can be shortened to Kaal or Kal(seeing how in Hindi the last 'a' would be silent) and the Bhairava would be shortened to Bhairo which is another pronunciation for it. So Kal Bhairo is the same as Kala Bhairava! Swami Ram Charran does not know what he's talking about!!!!

Khal Bhairo is Kala Bhairava... He is Lord Shiva! This 'swami' is just a swindler and nothing else! Besides that, Khal Bhairo is just the way Kala Bhairava is pronounced in Trinidad. It's not like it takes on a different meaning when pronounced "Kala Bhairava" vs. "Khal Bhairo"... he's a real fool.

Triniboy108 · 05-27-2008, 11:11 PM

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Khal Bhairo is Kala Bhairava... He is Lord Shiva! This 'swami' is just a swindler and nothing else! Besides that, Khal Bhairo is just the way Kala Bhairava is pronounced in Trinidad. It's not like it takes on a different meaning when pronounced "Kala Bhairava" vs. "Khal Bhairo"... he's a real fool.

yes exactly what i'm saying!

RadheyRadhey108 · 05-28-2008, 02:50 AM

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yes exactly what i'm saying!

Some people really need to get their 'swami license' taken away from them if you ask me!