Kali Tongue Symbolism

Greetings Satori,

The tongue symbolism of deities (as Kali, Bhairavi, etc) in Tantric traditions
has different meanings but in all cases we can analyze some common factors as
"inversion", "immortality", and so on. In my opinion the long tongue of Kali is
an explicit recall of the Khechari Mudra's physical effects (therefor
"invertion" of tongue and "immortality" of amrita falling). You know, this
advanced tantric practique in ancient times (and maybe also in our time)
involved the elongation of Tongue (in some tantric texts is written that the
tongue must arrive at the center of the brow) so my conclusion is that the
symbolism in Tantric path is always a specific initiatic instruction. The
Kali's protruding tongue is the demonstration of the existence of a way, the
Supreme Way of Liberation.
Remember that Kali is in Shunya (the Void) and the way that overstep the abyss
is the only way to emancipation...
The practical sense is disclosed in Khechari Mudra where your mounth is Shunya
and your tongue is the principle of Invertion, so stimulating some hidden
points you can drink the Amrita and win the death.

I think that Kali symbolism is really a great example to understand all tantric
symbols, is the key of an immense gamma of icons. Unfortunately for whom thinks
that the terrifying symbols (bones, skulls, ect) are only a metaphor there is a
list of texts and storic facts that demonstate the reality of this symbolism...
In the past Kali was the deity of necromacy, cemetery meditations, sacrifices,
auto-choking (Khecari Mudra) and so on... All this symbols are
physical/practical implications and for this reason Kali is a really complicate
deity... really really difficult to understand in all her symbolic and practic
meanings... Today some practiques as human sacrifices are surpassed, but the
denial of the dark aspects of Kali Cult is a big error of interpretation.
So, ascertained Kali symbolism is not metaphoric one, what you think about all
the terrifying symbols of this deity?

Maybe i've divagated...
All the best!

Bhoom Bhairavi Kali Bhoom

Vincenzo





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Subject: [Kali_Ma] Kali Tongue Symbolism
Namaste!I am curious to discover the symbolism of Kali's protruding tongue in
various portrayals of her. If anyone can enlighten me, I would be most
appreciative.Jai Maa!Satori
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Vincenzo <nox.nihil (AT) email (DOT) it> wrote:
Greetings Satori,

The tongue symbolism of deities (as Kali, Bhairavi, etc) in Tantric traditions
has different meanings but in all cases we can analyze some common factors as
"inversion", "immortality", and so on. In my opinion the long tongue of Kali is
an explicit recall of the Khechari Mudra's physical effects (therefor
"invertion" of tongue and "immortality" of amrita falling). You know, this
advanced tantric practique in ancient times (and maybe also in our time)
involved the elongation of Tongue (in some tantric texts is written that the
tongue must arrive at the center of the brow) so my conclusion is that the
symbolism in Tantric path is always a specific initiatic instruction. The
Kali's protruding tongue is the demonstration of the existence of a way, the
Supreme Way of Liberation.
Remember that Kali is in Shunya (the Void) and the way that overstep the abyss
is the only way to emancipation...
The practical sense is disclosed in Khechari Mudra where your mounth is Shunya
and your tongue is the principle of Invertion, so stimulating some hidden
points you can drink the Amrita and win the death.

I think that Kali symbolism is really a great example to understand all tantric
symbols, is the key of an immense gamma of icons. Unfortunately for whom thinks
that the terrifying symbols (bones, skulls, ect) are only a metaphor there is a
list of texts and storic facts that demonstate the reality of this symbolism...
In the past Kali was the deity of necromacy, cemetery meditations, sacrifices,
auto-choking (Khecari Mudra) and so on... All this symbols are
physical/practical implications and for this reason Kali is a really complicate
deity... really really difficult to understand in all her symbolic and practic
meanings... Today some practiques as human sacrifices are surpassed, but the
denial of the dark aspects of Kali Cult is a big error of interpretation.
So, ascertained Kali symbolism is not metaphoric one, what you think about all
the terrifying symbols of this deity?

Maybe i've divagated...
All the best!

Bhoom Bhairavi Kali Bhoom

Vincenzo





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Subject: [Kali_Ma] Kali Tongue Symbolism
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--- In Kali_Ma, "Satori" <sokushinjobutsu@y...> wrote:
> Namaste!
>
> I am curious to discover the symbolism of Kali's protruding tongue
> in various portrayals of her. If anyone can enlighten me, I would be
> most appreciative.
>
> Jai Maa!
> Satori

Kali's red tongue represents rajas guna. Her white Teeth,
closed on Her tongue, represents sattvas guna.

Kali as the Mahashakti is in a state of perpetual excitement.
Her tongue lolls due to Her spasming in bliss by the creation
of the manifest universe. Were it not for Her white Teeth,
Her activity would grow more and more violent in the pursuit
of more and more bliss. The influence of sattvas guna serves
to calm Her just enough to maintain the continued existence
of the Universe.

--jody.

Mahavidya means she of great wisdom.They represent all aspects of
reality;beauty, wealth, youth, old age, uglyness,war, peace, growth, sex,
fertility, povertymagick, anger, peace, wisdom, experience, etc.If male
consorts or seen with them they are in subordinate positions. How many are
there? The most popular traditions says ther are ten. Another tradition claims
there are 18 and yet another tradition saysthere ae 10 million Mahavidya. Is
Lakshmi and Sarasvati a Mahavidya yesand no. Even though she is the goddess of
speach, the vedas, wisdom,learning, poetry and the arts she is ONLY a Mahavidya
as Matangi theoutcatse goddess. As Sarasvati when she is seen with her husband
Brahmashe is seen in a subordinate position the same as Lakshmi the goddess of
love, marriages, fertility, and wealth. Towards her husband Vishnu she is
smaller and subordinate. In one picture she is seen sitting at her
husbands/lords
feet massagining them and she is much smaller than he is.She massages her lords
feet while Vishnu contemplates creation. But as Kamala she is seen with no
husband yet her beauty remains. She is seated on a pink lotus with white
elephants constanly pouring water on her.Durga even though in the most popular
10 mahavidyas she is not listed but in another list she is the 5th mahavidya
and in that tradition she replaces the fierce Bhairavi. Bhairavi is the Goddes
who wears a garlandof severed heads and has no mount she has just completed her
fierce battlewhereas Durga is prepared for and fights the battle. Kali is the
head of the 10 mahavidyas, and it is said that all mahavidyas are an aspect of
Mother Kali. Kali is the first amoung the Mahavidyas. All the Mahavidyas are
said to be the manifestations of Kali. This is true. In all the diffrent belief
system of the Mahavidyas Kali is usually first and she is always included amoung
the Mahavidyas. She is
the terrible and benign mother. She is the beginning and the end. here is a
description of Kali from the Dhyana mantra of Guhya-Kali"She is lustrous like a
dark cloud and wears black cloud and wears black clothes. Her tongue lolls her
face is dreadful to behold, her eyes are sunken, and she smiles. She wears the
cresant moon on her forehead and is decorated with serpents. She drinks wine,
has a serpent as a sacred thread, is seated on a bed of snakes, and wears a
garland of fifty human heads that hangs all the way down to her knees. She has
a large belly, and the thousand-hooded serpent Ananta looms above her head.
Shiva is present as a boy beside her. She makes a loud, laughing sound, she is
very dreadful, but bestows the desire of the aspirant.There are many stories
why Kali hangs her tongue out. The most famous in a newer patriarcal meaning
from the Oriya Hindus. I do not believe this meaning for why her tounge is
haning out. I will shorten the story. After
the Devi destroyed all the demons, she was furious about how the gods could be
so careless of granting powerful boons to demons. She was also intoxicated by
the blood she had consumed and went on a rampage. She intended to destroy all
of creation including all the gods. The gods were at a loss as they were
frightened and had no power whatsoever to stop the Devi's rampage. They
petitioned the acsetic Lord Shiva and begged for his help. He finally agreed.
He came and layed amoung the bodies that were strewn all over the battlefield
as Kali stepped on Shiva she realized whom she had stepped on; her husband. She
felt shame; laja. She was so ashamed of this unforgivable act that like a
traditional Oriya women she held her tongue out in shame and she calmed down
and so the universe, world and the gods were saved.This is why I do not belive
in this.A) her tongue hanging out has a deeper symbolic meaningB) Shame? Then
why is she seen in some pictures devouring Shiva's
internal organs?C) Shame? Then please tell me why does she have severd heads or
some times skulls around her neck. Why does she wear embryos or corpses of
children for ear ornaments at times.D) wheres the shame when she drinks blood
and prances around in the cremation grounds?E) Wheres the shame when she
appears with messed up wild hair and severed arms hanging around her waist?
This Lady has no shame.Here is another myth upon why Kali has her tongue
hanging out.The Goddess is Divinely angry. Furious. In a rage. She calms down
when she wants too. When Shiva tries to calm her down, she gets him so Divinley
insane with rage she has him going berserk. She calms down when she wants to.
She will not be bullied or shamed into calming down.She literaly picks up Lord
Shiva the supreme god amoung gods and throws him down, she steps on him showing
Her supremecy over the god of gods and she sticks her tongue out in Divine wrath
and calms down. Look into her eys in
some pictures and you will see that anger still lingering.
There are other stories as well.
I see that to be at the feet of the Mother is liberating.
Her facial expression represents the 3 worlds and how she saves the devotee. Her
body in some cases is very dark, sometimes black this represnts Tamas, inertia,
lazyness, bestial behavior, glutony etc, Her tongue is Rajas; activity, war,
work etc, Her teeth are satva; peace, spirituality, devotion, considerateness
etc. She grabs the devotee from tamas with her tongue rajas tyhen with her
teeth satva she liberates the devotee.This passage comes from a book by Lex
Hixon Mother Of The Universe. This book is about Sri Ramprasads poetry. Sri
Ramprashad was Kalis intoxicated saint and poet. All he could think of is the
Mother. Lex Hixon was initiated into the Kali mysteries and his intiiation
comes direclly down from Sri Rama Krishna snd Sri Sarada Devi. Sri Rama Krishna
was the Kali intoxicated priest and he was the 9h incarnation of Vishnu and it
is written that when VIshnu incarnates so would Lakhsmi. Ok here is the
passage"We must
remember Goddess Kali's voluntary relationship with her consort, Lord Shiva. The
Goddess in inwardly independent of her counterpart in male form, for she has no
need of the masculine principal to complete her, much less to assist her or
protect her. She embrases all possibilities within her as she strides alone
across the universal field of battle or chooses blissful union with Shiva, a
union in which she is the dominant partner, dancing fiercly or standing
perfectly still upon his vast breast, which is the peaceful expanse of the
absolute." Here are my rambeings on the subject...Her energy is within shiva.
Mother is the "I" in Shiva, his Shakti, without this "I" he would be Shva
meaning an unanimated corpse.There are those who believe in the misconception
that Kali is not used for healing...this is not correct. In the Indo-Cariibean
Hindu religion in Guyana, the Kali religion is an esoteric and healing
religion. Some people are atrracted to Kali for that
purpose. Her Punjaris (priests) have to know how to heal and call on Kali to
assist in that healing. Amoung the people there she is a healer. She can heal
in many ways. She is also prayed to for conception of a child and also a
spiritual child at that in her traditional Kali worship. It says in the Kali
Kavacam (Armor of Kali) and I quote verse 14 "Those without children will gain
children. Those who desire wealth will gain wealth.Those who desire knowledge
will attain knowledge. Those who desire desires will attain the fulfillment of
desires."Kali is the power of Vayu the wind and she is also the power of
electricity. Oya/Iansa of the Yorubas is also the Goddess of wind and storms,
like Kali Oya can be unpredictable. Kali comes from the root word Kal which
means time. Kali is therefore the Mother of time. Like time she ages and
eventually swallows her children. Kali is also called She Who Takes Away the
Darkness. Also Kali means beautyful and Kali is called very
beautyful. Also Kali means black. Theres another reason why Shiva is beneath
Kali's feet. This info comes from theMahabhagavata. The Goddess Kali has tested
Shiva several times and he did pass many times. But not always. Well when he did
pass another test and a big one mainly overcomming his male pride and
remembering that his wife is the supreme mother of the universe;kali. she was
pleased and grants him a boon. Shiva askes that when She appears as Kali that
he will be seen beneath her feet. He so loves his great wife and his mother as
she created him. So Kali grants it and Shiva enters a yogic state and lies down
and places her lotus feet on his chest. Shiva tells her that she will also be
known as She Who's Vehicle Is A Corpse. He tells her to be pleased and calls
her the Matriarch of the world. One of Kali's mantra is "Om Krim Kaliyai
Namaha" This means I bow to she who takes away the Darkness. Krim is a mantra
that belongs to Kali and it is also a mantra of action. Krim
also means K stands for full wisdom R stands for that she is holy I stands for
that the Goddess Kali grants boons. M stands for the
power of liberation and freedom that Kali bestows. For more info on Kali Ma
please go to my website at http://community.webtv.net/friskey-kity/ you will
find many pages on my website about Kali including the page Jai Ma also check
out http://www.kalimandir.org this has nothing to do with my site but there is
a lot of info on the Holy Mother Kali there. Please scroll down below and go to
the next page
Kalimir
aka
Kalamere
jodyrrr <jodyrrr (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
--- In Kali_Ma, "Satori" <sokushinjobutsu@y...> wrote:>
Namaste!> > I am curious to discover the symbolism of Kali's protruding tongue
> in various portrayals of her. If anyone can enlighten me, I would be > most
appreciative.> > Jai Maa!> SatoriKali's red tongue represents rajas guna. Her
white Teeth,closed on Her tongue, represents sattvas guna.Kali as the
Mahashakti is in a state of perpetual excitement.Her tongue lolls due to Her
spasming in bliss by the creationof the manifest universe. Were it not for Her
white Teeth,Her activity would grow more and more violent in the pursuitof more
and more bliss. The influence of sattvas guna servesto calm Her just enough to
maintain the continued existenceof the
Universe.--jody.

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--- In Kali_Ma, Maha Kali Tara Ma <jai_ma_kali@y...>
wrote:

[snip]

> Her energy is within shiva. Mother is the "I" in Shiva,
> his Shakti, without this "I" he would be Shva meaning
> an unanimated corpse.

In terms of Shakta Advaita, this interpretation is
backwards. Shiva represents Nirguna Brahman, the un-
manifest aspect of reality that is in fact the source
of the "I" in all beings, including Ma's.

Ma represents Saguna Brahman, or the Mahashakti, the
manifested aspect of reality. *EVERYTHING* which
happens in the spacetime continuum is the result of
Her activity.

Ma stands on Shiva as nothing in the realm of being
can exist without the foundational support of Brahman.
Brahman is the one source of all being for all beings,
including Ma. He lies in samamdi, motionless and
actionless like Brahman, yet everything which exists
(as represented by Ma) is absolutely dependent on
His being.

Ma could do nothing without Brahman, the source of
all being. However, Shiva never tells Ma what to
do. If She decides to sit on his cock, He's there
for that. If She decides to shake down a few galaxies,
He is there for that as well. Shiva never comes out
of nirvakalpa samadhi, but His participation is
mandatory as the source of being for anything and
everything that exists and goes down in the manifest
universe.

--jody.

Kalimirjodyrrr <jodyrrr (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
--- In Kali_Ma, Maha Kali Tara Ma
<jai_ma_kali@y...>wrote:[snip]> Her energy is within shiva. Mother is the "I"
in Shiva, > his Shakti, without this "I" he would be Shva meaning > an
unanimated corpse.In terms of Shakta Advaita, this interpretation isbackwards.
Shiva represents Nirguna Brahman, the un-manifest aspect of reality that is in
fact the sourceof the "I" in all beings, including Ma's.Ma represents Saguna
Brahman, or the Mahashakti, themanifested aspect of reality. *EVERYTHING*
whichhappens in the spacetime continuum is the result ofHer activity.Ma stands
on Shiva as nothing in the realm of beingcan exist without the foundational
support of Brahman.Brahman is the one source of all being for all
beings,including Ma. He lies in samamdi,
motionless andactionless like Brahman, yet everything which exists(as
represented by Ma) is absolutely dependent onHis being.Ma could do nothing
without Brahman, the source ofall being. However, Shiva never tells Ma what
todo. If She decides to sit on his cock, He's therefor that. If She decides
to shake down a few galaxies,He is there for that as well. Shiva never comes
outof nirvakalpa samadhi, but His participation ismandatory as the source of
being for anything andeverything that exists and goes down in the manifest
universe.--jody.

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--- In Kali_Ma, Maha Kali Tara Ma <jai_ma_kali@y...>
wrote:
> Interesting. Sometimes things are not the way they seem.
> Dhumavati swallows Shiva and has no male counterpart. She
> is the widow. Kali is Dhumavati.

Kali is also Parvati, seducing Shiva as well.

> There are so many beliefs
> about the Goddess so agree some disagree and yet sometimes they
> connect. I have heard people call Kali the female Brahmen.

You are correct in that there are many interpretations.
However, some are closer to the original intent than others.

For instance, there can be no female Brahman, as Brahman
is not two. In other words, Brahman is not split along
gender lines. Shiva as a male may represent Brahman to
some, but Brahman Itself is utterly beyond any conditions
and qualities, including that of gender.

In terms of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta, as well as the
expression of the lives of Ramakrishna and Vivekananda,
the iconography of Sri Ma Kali Dakshineswari shows the
apparent division of the universe into manifest and
unmanifest, as this makes sense to a mind which developed
in this apparent division. However, Brahman is not
divisible, not two, and includes everything manifest and
unmanifest, even though Brahman Itself is utterly actionless
and utterly transcendent of the going-ons in the world of
name and form, which Ma represents in Her role as the
Mahashakti (primary manifestor) of the material plane.

> For me the Goddess is the ultimate.

Me too. However, I feel it's important to note that
the ultimate has an apparently manifested and unmanifested
nature. We are all, right now, each and every one of us,
Brahman, whether or not we live in the recognition of this.
When we don't, all we have is the manifest, which is Ma.
So, you as an individual and a devotee are only another
manifestation of Kali, but you as the pure being which
alights your heart with being are only Brahman, and as such are
even transcendent of Ma. This is the gift She as the Mahamaya
offers Her truly surrendered devotees, the gift of understanding
of our true nature as one with all as Brahman, right now
and forever unborn.

> Kalimir

--jody.


> jodyrrr <jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
> --- In Kali_Ma, Maha Kali Tara Ma <jai_ma_kali@y...>
> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Her energy is within shiva. Mother is the "I" in Shiva,
> > his Shakti, without this "I" he would be Shva meaning
> > an unanimated corpse.
>
> In terms of Shakta Advaita, this interpretation is
> backwards. Shiva represents Nirguna Brahman, the un-
> manifest aspect of reality that is in fact the source
> of the "I" in all beings, including Ma's.
>
> Ma represents Saguna Brahman, or the Mahashakti, the
> manifested aspect of reality. *EVERYTHING* which
> happens in the spacetime continuum is the result of
> Her activity.
>
> Ma stands on Shiva as nothing in the realm of being
> can exist without the foundational support of Brahman.
> Brahman is the one source of all being for all beings,
> including Ma. He lies in samamdi, motionless and
> actionless like Brahman, yet everything which exists
> (as represented by Ma) is absolutely dependent on
> His being.
>
> Ma could do nothing without Brahman, the source of
> all being. However, Shiva never tells Ma what to
> do. If She decides to sit on his cock, He's there
> for that. If She decides to shake down a few galaxies,
> He is there for that as well. Shiva never comes out
> of nirvakalpa samadhi, but His participation is
> mandatory as the source of being for anything and
> everything that exists and goes down in the manifest
> universe.
>
> --jody.
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I am devoted to many deities but Kali is my ultimate. As i said before I have
many alters in my home to gods and goddesses.
Have you ever read the book called Kali Puja? Its very nice. Its a book of
mantras and worship of Kali. You should check it out if you dont have it.
Kalimirjodyrrr <jodyrrr (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
--- In Kali_Ma, Maha Kali Tara Ma <jai_ma_kali@y...>wrote:>
Interesting. Sometimes things are not the way they seem. > Dhumavati swallows
Shiva and has no male counterpart. She > is the widow. Kali is Dhumavati. Kali
is also Parvati, seducing Shiva as well.> There are so many beliefs > about the
Goddess so agree some disagree and yet sometimes they > connect. I have heard
people call Kali the female Brahmen. You are correct in that there are many
interpretations.However, some are closer to the original intent than others.For
instance, there can be no female Brahman, as Brahmanis not two. In other words,
Brahman is not split alonggender lines. Shiva as a male may represent Brahman
tosome, but Brahman Itself is utterly beyond any conditionsand qualities,
including that of gender.In terms of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta, as well as
theexpression of the lives of Ramakrishna and Vivekananda,the iconography of
Sri Ma Kali Dakshineswari shows theapparent division of the universe into
manifest andunmanifest, as this makes sense to a mind which developedin this
apparent division. However, Brahman is not divisible, not two, and includes
everything manifest andunmanifest, even though Brahman Itself is utterly
actionlessand utterly transcendent of the going-ons in the world ofname and
form, which Ma represents in Her role as theMahashakti (primary manifestor) of
the material plane.> For me the Goddess is the ultimate. Me too. However, I
feel it's important to note thatthe ultimate has an apparently manifested and
unmanifestednature. We are all, right now, each and every one of us,Brahman,
whether or not we live in the recognition of this.When we
don't, all we have is the manifest, which is Ma.So, you as an individual and a
devotee are only anothermanifestation of Kali, but you as the pure being
whichalights your heart with being are only Brahman, and as such are even
transcendent of Ma. This is the gift She as the Mahamayaoffers Her truly
surrendered devotees, the gift of understandingof our true nature as one with
all as Brahman, right nowand forever unborn.> Kalimir--jody.> jodyrrr
<jodyrrr@y...> wrote:> --- In Kali_Ma, Maha Kali Tara Ma
<jai_ma_kali@y...>> wrote:> > [snip]> > > Her energy is within shiva. Mother is
the "I" in Shiva, > > his Shakti, without this "I" he would be Shva meaning > >
an unanimated corpse.> > In terms of Shakta Advaita, this interpretation is>
backwards. Shiva represents Nirguna Brahman, the un->
manifest aspect of reality that is in fact the source> of the "I" in all beings,
including Ma's.> > Ma represents Saguna Brahman, or the Mahashakti, the>
manifested aspect of reality. *EVERYTHING* which> happens in the spacetime
continuum is the result of> Her activity.> > Ma stands on Shiva as nothing in
the realm of being> can exist without the foundational support of Brahman.>
Brahman is the one source of all being for all beings,> including Ma. He lies
in samamdi, motionless and> actionless like Brahman, yet everything which
exists> (as represented by Ma) is absolutely dependent on> His being.> > Ma
could do nothing without Brahman, the source of> all being. However, Shiva
never tells Ma what to> do. If She decides to sit on his cock, He's there> for
that. If She decides to shake down a few galaxies,> He is
there for that as well. Shiva never comes out> of nirvakalpa samadhi, but His
participation is> mandatory as the source of being for anything and> everything
that exists and goes down in the manifest > universe.> > --jody.> > > Yahoo!
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--- In Kali_Ma, Maha Kali Tara Ma <jai_ma_kali@y...>
wrote:
> To me Brahman just is........
> I am devoted to many deities but Kali is my ultimate. As i
> said before I have many alters in my home to gods and goddesses.
> Have you ever read the book called Kali Puja? Its very nice. Its
> a book of mantras and worship of Kali. You should check it out if
> you dont have it.
> Kalimir

A man named Bhagavan Das told me that was a favorite of his
as well. I have the book, but my favorites are Mookerjee's
"Kali: The Feminine Force" and Kripal and McDermott's
"Encountering Kali." There's also Usha Harding's "Kali:
The Black Goddess of Dakshineswar" and Bhairavan's "Kali's
Odiyya."

--jody.

--- In Kali_Ma, Maha Kali Tara Ma <jai_ma_kali@y...>wrote:> To
me Brahman just is........> I am devoted to many deities but Kali is my
ultimate. As i > said before I have many alters in my home to gods and
goddesses. > Have you ever read the book called Kali Puja? Its very nice. Its >
a book of mantras and worship of Kali. You should check it out if > you dont
have it. > KalimirA man named Bhagavan Das told me that was a favorite of his
as well. I have the book, but my favorites are Mookerjee's "Kali: The Feminine
Force" and Kripal and McDermott's "Encountering Kali." There's also Usha
Harding's "Kali:The Black Goddess of Dakshineswar" and Bhairavan's
"Kali'sOdiyya."--jody.

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--- In Kali_Ma, Maha Kali Tara Ma <jai_ma_kali@y...>
wrote:
> yes I have all those books. My favorite is Kali by Elizabeth
> U. Harding. I have so many more books on Kali and the Mahavidyas.

Have you been to Kali Mandir in Laguna Beach, California?

I am making my own little temple in my home with all the alters. I am still
constructing a Mahavidya alter.

Kalimir
jodyrrr <jodyrrr (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
--- In Kali_Ma, Maha Kali Tara Ma <jai_ma_kali@y...>wrote:> yes
I have all those books. My favorite is Kali by Elizabeth > U. Harding. I have
so many more books on Kali and the Mahavidyas.Have you been to Kali Mandir in
Laguna Beach, California?

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If you can afford to, it's worth a trip out there for
their annual puja. It's attended by about 400-600
devotees. Krishna Das, Dave Stringer, Bhagavan Das
and Jai Uttal have all performed there.

It's usually held in the summer. They've already
had this years', but I'm sure it will be just as
good, if not better, the next.

They also hold monthly amavasya pujas which are
attended by up to 100 devotees, although it gets
pretty crowded in the mandir. The annual puja is
held at a much larger facility, and the priests
from the Dakshineswar Kali temple in Calcutta are
flown out for the occasion.

It's a worthwhile trip for any Kali devotee.

--jody.

--- In Kali_Ma, Maha Kali Tara Ma <jai_ma_kali@y...>
wrote:
> No I have not. I did however went to the Divya Dham temple when
> I used to live in Queens NY.
> I am making my own little temple in my home with all the alters.
> I am still constructing a Mahavidya alter.
>
>
>
> Kalimir
>
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> jodyrrr <jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
> --- In Kali_Ma, Maha Kali Tara Ma <jai_ma_kali@y...>
> wrote:
> > yes I have all those books. My favorite is Kali by Elizabeth
> > U. Harding. I have so many more books on Kali and the Mahavidyas.
>
> Have you been to Kali Mandir in Laguna Beach, California?
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Good Afternoon,

The net addy for the Kali Mandir @ Laguna Beach is:
http://www.kalimandir.org/homepage.asp

The Puja is in July I believe.

Namaste'
Sue

--- In Kali_Ma, "jodyrrr" <jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
> If you can afford to, it's worth a trip out there for
> their annual puja. It's attended by about 400-600
> devotees. Krishna Das, Dave Stringer, Bhagavan Das
> and Jai Uttal have all performed there.
>
> It's usually held in the summer. They've already
> had this years', but I'm sure it will be just as
> good, if not better, the next.
>
> They also hold monthly amavasya pujas which are
> attended by up to 100 devotees, although it gets
> pretty crowded in the mandir. The annual puja is
> held at a much larger facility, and the priests
> from the Dakshineswar Kali temple in Calcutta are
> flown out for the occasion.
>
> It's a worthwhile trip for any Kali devotee.
>
> --jody.
>
> --- In Kali_Ma, Maha Kali Tara Ma <jai_ma_kali@y...>
> wrote:
> > No I have not. I did however went to the Divya Dham temple when
> > I used to live in Queens NY.
> > I am making my own little temple in my home with all the alters.
> > I am still constructing a Mahavidya alter.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kalimir
> >
> >
> > jodyrrr <jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
> > --- In Kali_Ma, Maha Kali Tara Ma
<jai_ma_kali@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > yes I have all those books. My favorite is Kali by Elizabeth
> > > U. Harding. I have so many more books on Kali and the
Mahavidyas.
> >
> > Have you been to Kali Mandir in Laguna Beach, California?
> >
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