--- Eve__69 <eve__69@...> wrote:
>
> I want you to know that i am from a german jewish
> family. (-- maharhadanath)
>
>
> -----Yet, that said, you still hate quite a few
> 'others.' I also am Jewish, though never practiced.
>

The Nath seems to hate proselytizers of all faiths.
I'm not thrilled with them, myself.

When I could walk to work, there was a Born Again who
would often stop me on the street to ask me, "Have you
accepted Jesus as your savior?" I would smile, say
nothing, and keep walking. Finally, he asked me,
"What's your name?" Not wanting to give him the
slightest clue towards finding me, I gave hime my
Hebrew name. "I'm Aryeh."

His eyes lit up. "Ah-ha! A Jewish Buddhist! How can
you take refuge in the Buddha, and neglect the
attentions of Jesus, one of your own people?" (I must
look Jewish, right?)

Out of sheer perversity (and curiosity that "Aryeh" --
or more correctly "Arya" -- was also a Sanskrit name)
I began studying Buddhism. This was before I accepted
Ganesha as my personal savior, of course.

But here we sit, three Yiddisher schmendricks, arguing
over the Eastern religions we've converted to (without
anyone proselytizing to us!).

Bottom line: It's all window dressing, isn't it?
Don't all the paths lead to God (or in my case,
Goddess)? Isn't the ultimate goal enlightenment?

-- Len/ Kalipadma


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But here we sit, three Yiddisher schmendricks, arguing
over the Eastern religions we've converted to (without
anyone proselytizing to us!).

Bottom line: It's all window dressing, isn't it?
Don't all the paths lead to God (or in my case,
Goddess)? Isn't the ultimate goal enlightenment?

-- Len/ Kalipadma

---Jews do have some of my favorite witticisms for others. A Yiddisher
Schmendrik. I couldn't have said it better. My sister once named a hamster of
mine Schmendrick. And another Princess Machebelli. That said, I was raised a
"Nothing." Never baptised or told what to think. The closest I ever got was
when I asked my father what the best thing in the world was and he said,
"Wisdom."

I did go to Catholic school for a couple years, and read the Bible cover to
cover, before switching to Crowley and Regardie, Anton LaVey, and other Western
Occultists. Then, oh well... I ramble... I guess of all systems I haven't
received diksha for or into I like Sri Vidya the best as I love Mahalakshmi. So
little time, so many great deities to stroke. I finally decided today that I
will make no other overtures to deities until I do 1,000,000 japs of Vajra Guru
mantra.

I once had this weird brain experience when I put on a whole strand of 28 one
muhki rudraksha beads where everything melted and left, and the wing of an
eagle, and right and the stop sign, and up and my eyeballs, and down and my ears
all melted and whatever was once sensible was melted into sameness. But so
what. Try explaining how ones eyes are the same as the pavement, or ones ears
are the same as your neighbors screaming at her husband.

It's quite possible that all the conversions going on are no different from
converted wheat flour. Where there's a market there's a prophet.

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> The Nath seems to hate proselytizers of all faiths.
> I'm not thrilled with them, myself.

i can ashure you i do not hate anyone. I am pragmatic.

> But here we sit, three Yiddisher schmendricks, arguing
> over the Eastern religions we've converted to (without
> anyone proselytizing to us!).
>
> Bottom line: It's all window dressing, isn't it?
> Don't all the paths lead to God (or in my case,
> Goddess)? Isn't the ultimate goal enlightenment?

If you are happy with it go for it!

I like diversity.

The idea of an ultimate goal and one God tends to restrict and make all
the diverse human expressions and creativity look small; too small to
contain anything of value.

Compared to god or the ultimate goal there is always something greater
or better than whatever one has right now.

But life lasts only 3 seconds: one before, one in the middle and one
after that.

To be able to take full advantage of these 3 seconds one should be
able to appreciate the goddess god ultimate disgusied as diversity
because thats all you´ve got.

Now how can you shrink the ultimate plus God and Goddess to fit it in
some small stone or even a woman or a man or some such stupid
whatjimmycallit ?

To begin doing that one only needs to learn to respect that which is
UNLIKE ones own ego.

That also includes other people, other peoples ideas or way of living.

With that openness and acceptance of the diverse forms that seem to be
foreign to ones ego, one can progress and learn more easy.

(especially in one of the eastern paths that involve a lineage of
teachers and some sort of initiation, because one can unfold the power
of the transmission or uncover the devata more easily when the ego
barrier is low or abolished)

"Isn't the ultimate goal enlightenment?"

What do universe want with us? I think our purpose also is culture-builders.

Lars

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